Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "The Sin of Moral Equivalence (Episode #338)" video.

I will grant Sam any day of the week that MOST of his argument is valid, but the small part where he is TOTALLY 100% WRONG needs saying. Claiming cultural superiority is the most dangerous of all human traits because at its most basic it decides the fate of people by their birth. Its the very basis for for so many of histories ugliest moments. Every cultural and tribal and nation group has its fanatics and every so often that group takes control. That usually happens when a society is under stress. We are seeing that in America right now, where there is staggering economic stress over a massive section of the population. Its what's allowed Trump to grasp the power base that he has. The stress that Israel has applied to the Palestinian people for such a long time now has lead many young Palestinians right into the arms of Hamas. Just like the stress on many young Germans in the 1930s lead them into the arms of the Nazis. The other thing is that such fanatics will mistreat their own people with MORE violence and cruelty than they treat others. In Germany people who they felt were unworthy of being shot were guillotined like Sophie Scholl whose crime was distributing anti-Nazi Pamphlets at the University of Munich. A few weeks back Vice News did a story titled "Israel’s Far Right Government is a Gift to Settlers" in that story a young settler who has been REMOVED from land he has claimed on multiple occasions by ISRAELI authorities. They have told him repeatedly that this patch of land is NOT HIS to take. In the interview in one breath he's claiming that he's peaceful and he says "I'm a Jew talking to a non-Jew peacefully" In the next breath he basically says that anyone who doesn't agree with what he wants should have their heads cut off. Whenever you ignore the fanatics among any group they will fester and wait for an opportunity to grasp power. Right now Sam should have a look over his shoulder at the Libertarians in America. They've been waiting decades to grasp power and Trump opened the door for them BECAUSE the lazy establishments of both the DNC and RNC left a massive slab of the American population vulnerable to a morally bankrupt person like Trump. The lesson is: NEVER ignore the fanatic in your own culture or one day they will rip your people apart when you least expect it.
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@alive-q3j That's the part that upset me too and I'm a white Anglo-Saxon Australian. We've seen enough of that here in our society to keep hammering away like this. Does Islam have a problem at the moment? Absolutely, but that problem is not a lot different to European history that Sam points out but then magically suggests it all behind us AND ITS JUST NOT. Every society has people in it who are a problem and if your society becomes stressed over an extended time period it allows those people an opportunity to take over. That's how Trump go into power. And the worst aspect of this is once enough people have dived into that space its very hard to pull them out because mob psychology takes over. So it can become very hard to deal with which is why America has the mess it has.
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@jaarneal He is claiming another culture is inferior AT THE CULTURAL LEVEL and its NOT the first time. AND he is doing that for 2 Billion People across a staggering number of countries. I AGREE 100% that Hamas have done an insanely terrible and stupid and inexcusable thing, but to hold them 100% accountable for the shitfest of Gaza is equally stupid. If Sam was making this ANOTHER example of a religion in trouble with a section of its people out of control then I'm 100% on his side but he doesn't do that. He's painted this as Islam is 100% wrong to its core and that condemns 2 Billion people most of who have not a damn thing to do with this mess. Maybe he can explain why his peaceful Buddhist Regime in Burma can justify their treatment of the Rohingya people, because Sam has a history with Buddhists, go check his Wikipedia. Its his complete dismissal of accountability of the Israeli government that I take offense at. Sorry but that is simply BULLSHlT and he should know better. For example on his claim of holding people accountable. How about the MURDER last year of Journalist Shireen Abu Akleh who was covering the IDF incursion into the Jenin refugee camp on 11 May 2022. She was clearly identified as PRESS by the Blue Body Vest with PRESS written on it and was shot in the head. Are you seriously going to tell people that a trained military sniper couldn't see who she was in his scope? How about the spotter? You do know snipers act in a team with one of them as the spotter who has a wider field of view and does the range finding and wind. The spotter job is to decide what targets are and aren't valid. Sniper shots are NOT accidentally taken. They are planned and taken quite deliberately. So for the IDF to claim there was no fault in that is complete BULLSHlT. There have been so many case over the years where Israeli soldiers DELIBERATELY targeted Palestinian children. At one point in the Intifada there'd been about 30 children shot dead by the IDF and the IDF were claiming again and again that they were not targeting children. Then one day a journalist asked if they weren't targeting children then how come (I think it was) 26 out of 27 deaths were by single shots to the head. It was between 25 and 30 and only 1 wasn't a head shot. It was by trained military personnel and they claimed there was no targeting. And finally if you really want to discuss who are and who aren't fanatics in the Palestinian-Israel shit show then explain who shot Yitzhak Rabin? By the way did you know Sam's mother is Jewish although the claim is she's non-religious???
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@jaarneal You are without doubt one of the most morally bankrupt C⋃NTS I have ever encountered period. You have along with Sam Harris condemned 2 Billion Human beings on the basis that 1 subgroup acts like animals to which I have AGREED. Your logic is so bent that it also calls for the extermination of 330 million Americans because if you want to talk about a culture that glorifies killing and torture then lets start with the nation that presents to the entire world through its TV, Media and Films how it glorifies violence, killing and torture OR like all your KIND have you not forgotten the Invasion of Iraq where the Vice President of the United Stated personally approved the wonderfully titled "enhanced interrogation techniques"
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@jaarneal As for the deflection on the MURDER of Shireen Abu Akleh you are so morally bankrupt is barely conceivable that you know how to breath oxygen. Here you are saying Sam's right on the Moral equivalence and this cannot equate to that and what did you do????? She was outright MURDERED and you pull that whataboutism crap. I've met your kind before.
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