Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Renewable energy 'creates more pollutants than fossil fuel': Bernardi" video.

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  3.  @charlesmangum3108  Both of what solar and wind or renewable and base load. The Germans spent €1.3 Trillion on renewables and they found out a few things. 1: For every 1kW of coal that gets turned of you need around 2.2kW of wind & solar to replace it. 2: Wind is best from late afternoon until early morning which is almost the opposite of solar. So if they are balanced from an engineering perspective you can lower the 2.2kw to around 1.7kw (about 20-25%). So if a country the size of Germany could have saved about €400 Billion it would have left plenty for batteries. They expect to eventually make all that back because they now know how to engineer large renewable power infrastructure more efficiently. 3: Renewables have a low energy production by land area compared to most other forms of generation. This is one of the things I hate that Greenies ignore, because its also the main reason why we do need a form of electricity production that's high density for the land area it occupies. If that high density option is also a base load (its available 24/7/365) then its got 2 bases covered. 4: They worked out the real monetary value of bulk electricity storage. The Germans are pretty good at manufacturing quality. What many people don't realise is that their ideology is partly driven by profit. They worked out long ago that if you make something (anything) and its rejected by the buyer as faulty or poor quality then you are stuck with the bill for materials, labor and energy and CAN'T IT BACK. I'm an engineer who's worked in the auto industry and had this explained to me. Financially they are called "unrecoverable losses." With wind and solar the sun only shines so many hours each year and the wind only blows so many hour each year. ANY SECOND/HOUR/DAY of sun or wind they CAN'T SELL to the market is the equivalent of a poorly made product - its an unrecoverable loss. Everyone thinks storage is necessary for stable power supply and it is BUT its also incredibly important FINANCIALLY. 5: The single biggest factor the Germans worked out was that if your geography is suitable you can have a massive chunk of your energy coming from renewables. BUT there's a limit to how much and then it gets horribly expensive. This is also the SAME for every other energy source. If you get to narrowly focused then you eventually need a backup and its the backup that gets expensive. Its like racing cars, making a fast car is one thing but as you started chasing the final 1% its gets Formula 1 expensive. Its the same for almost any engineered system including power generation. The Germans made a massive blunder by letting the Greenies have their way when it cams to what they switched off first - their nuclear or their coal. THIS explains why I don't like Greenies. They made an emotional decision and shut off the nuclear which was working fine and produced very few GHGs. Instead (after spending €1.3 Trillion) their GHG emissions didn't fall because they had to run their dirty old coal fired units even harder. If they had have left the nuclear on then their GHG emissions would have dropped massively. The issue isn't if we will have a huge amount of our energy future coming from wind & solar. Its a matter of what the complimentary technology we have is and how much we need of it. My bet is that just as renewables will have some variety so will the complimentary. About the only thing I am certain of is that NONBODY will be (or shouldn't be) building any new coal fired power stations. If you wat a live able planet and a future the answer is NO. This is half the hassle I have as an engineer. Instead of doing what's sensible we have utter clowns like Cory Bernardi playing their biased games to their biased audience while the utter clowns on the other side keep playing their biased games to their biased audience. Because of those 2 sides being stupid we aren't making progress when we desperately need to.
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