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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Georgia Republicans pull HORRIFIC stunt over Trump's fraud claims | No Lie podcast" video.
In the aftermath of 9/11 about where the conflict between the west and middle east came from. During it there was this amazing comparison between Al-Qaeda and neo-conservatives. They BOTH don't believe in democracy because they fundamentally believe people will vote in their self interest and not in what's best for a state or nation. Both use very conservative religious mechanisms for their base. A such they feel it only appropriate that they (the superior ones) guide society with a firm hand. It was bizarre to watch this documentary just strip both back to some basic concepts and show how similar they are. Don't ask which particular documentary it was as it was years ago, but that bit stuck. It still holds true, because that's how the elitists in any society have always been. From the start of civilization they have been the same, just with different clothes.
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Well actually Lincoln was a Republican who led the Union against the South. The Dems actually started in the South among wealthy landowners and the KKK was founded among Dems. That's one of the things about history - things change over time.
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@gedias1 I'm Australian and like Canada we have a traditional British Labour Party or at least one that started that way. Ours is now full of University Educated Kumbaya singing wankers who have never had dirt or grease on their hands, but that's another discussion. What Americans don't get is that they have 2 Right Wing parties. They used to be mild right and right. Now they are corporate right and radical fundamentalist right. I find it funny and at times infuriating to hear Americans talk about leftists when they have no idea what they're talking about.
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I think the legal cases are now 1 and 49. Its so bad the NY Jets are afraid they'll lose first pick in the draft.
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@gedias1 Your right but that's not the point I was making. The point is that things change over time. Just look where the 2 American parties are now they have both slid a long way to the right. According to Obama the Dems are now where the Republicans once were. I saw a piece on the Koch brothers the other day and when one of them ran against Reagan on the libertarian ticket they claimed Reagan was not far enough to the right. They were rejected by the GOP as nutters and radicals. They have spent over $125 million funding think tanks to drag America to their version of the right. Charles Koch was interviewed recently and openly complained the politicians he helped get elected would not do as he wanted. Then there's the billionaire who owns OAN, Robert Herring who is certifiably nutts, driving it as well. But adding to the Republican shift is the fuindmentalist Christians. We found out about this in Australia a couple of years back when some fundamentalists started using illegal means to take over parts of out right wing parties. An American training video surfaced. Where it came from and when it was made no one has really said. We know its American from the accents and think it was made in the 80s. Its basically about how to take over a party from the grass roots by taking over small local offices and taking over small local elected positions like mayor, DA, sheriff, school boards,.... etc. The aim it eventually to have a base you can move onto controlling state legislatures and then federal nominations. That's how Sarah Palin was forced on John McCain. That's how people like Pence and Pompeo got where they got. Then there is the centrist position of the Dems that's so broad that the only policy options for the Republicans is on the far right. No one should be surprised where the Republicans are. What everyone should be asking is how to you get them out of it? Because right now there are over 50million well armed (stocked with tons of ammunition) radicalized people who think they just had their country stolen. You can't lock them up - so what do you do to defuse that and then de-radicalize them. Look at this David Pakman did today -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeAznCt-pPo That cannot be ignored.
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@specter0023 The truly crazy point about America is that it actually has an incredible history in higher education. I went to U. of Illinois in the late 80s. When I got back to Australia we were just getting the nations first supercomputer. It was a baby Cray (one of the small ones). At the same time Illinois was installing its 3rd and they were all big ones. It was like Australia had a Japanese 4 cylinder and Illinois had 3 stonking V8s. Meanwhile a couple of grads from about that time developed a program called Mosaic. They ended up founding Netscape and sold it to Bill Gates for a gazillion or 2. I've been in the American system and seen just how good it can be. We all hear about America's wealth disparity but there is also an education disparity as well. The most bizarre thing is that if you took away 1% of the military spending and spent that on giving everyone a fair and decent education you'd boost America so far the rest of the world would be left behind. And I don't mean just the universities and high schools but also the junior colleges and vocational colleges. Go listen to Andrew Yang on that subject he actually knows what he is talking about. You can't have high tech manufacturing with out the skilled personnel. We've done similar in Australia with failing to train people in those areas and it effing aggravates me. I'm an engineer and you can't get stuff made without the skilled technicians. You can't maintain stuff either. America needs Biden to make Yang the next education secretary.
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@BubblePuppy. Harsh but accurate. P.S. Its called economic enslavement.
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@Kevin-pv3kg Mark Blyth brought it up in a panel the other day. We (the general public) don't know who he owes this massive chunk of money to, just that its someone who banks in the Caymans. He might be more scared of them than anyone else. His resorts have been hammered by COVID and he possibly doesn't have the money to cover the debt. Seriously would you want to owe some mystery man operating secretly through the Caymans a 9 digit sum that you can't pay or stay surrounded by an army of secret service agents sworn to your protection in the White House. He might be staying there because its a safe place where they can't get to him. Its a very interesting idea.
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