Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Allision off Australia | Bulker HL Eco Hits and Tows YM Serenity | Australia Charges Ship Master" video.

Australian engineer here: I'm formally trained and certified in both functional safety (TUV) and EEHA. Rupturing an LNG tank does NOT create a BLEVE, but it certainly makes one possible and that's because the LNG will quickly boil without any fire, ignition or explosion. I got into some ugly discussions over the BLEVE in Beiruit a couple of years ago and it certainly was a BLEVE. If you get into the details BLEVE is not that well defined but basically its when you have an initial fire or explosion that creates the boiling liquid and vapor cloud which then mixes with the surrounding air. That's the boiling liquid and expanding vapor cloud part of BLEVE. If you think about what a thermobaric bomb does which is to disperse the fuel, let it mix with the air and then detonate it that basically a BLEVE. There's was at one point a few really good examples on YouTube but they have been drowned out but the scumbags wanting attention and clicks. Of the few decent vids on thermobaric devices Ryan McBeth who's ex-US Military and is actually informative does a good one. If you search BLEVE on YouTube you get a bunch of older vids, but some are very good but also kind of scary. The best I know of is the BLEVE training video that's on the channel VideoSpikes as it explains what is going on. There's one from Mexico City and its a good example of the 2 stage nature of a BLEVE. At 0:58 there's the initial explosion and creation of the vapor cloud and then about 2 seconds later there's the fireball. Maybe the most frightening one is the "Atmospheric Storage Tank Explosion" posted by Mohamad Mahdi Amiri of what happened in Tehran in 2021.
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@3SpoiledDonkeys thanks
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@butchphillips873 I get what you are saying but you simply have it wrong. I have never heard of water or any other state change being described as a BLEVE and you are describing a state change from liquid to gas. The same could be said for when LNG meets water. Even with out an ignition it can be incredibly dangerous because of the rapid expansion as the LNG goes from liquid to gas. BUT IN BOTH CASES is a state change from liquid to gas NOT and ignited chemical reaction explosion. Yeah its splitting hairs and the definition needs to be better. The explosion in Beirut wasn't typical of a BLEVE either because the fuel wasn't stored as a liquid, but with the heat of the fire it became a liquid then went through a 2 stage event. So it wasn't typical but it was still a BLEVE because there was a chemical explosion where there was an expanding vapour cloud that used the oxygen in the air. What you've described is at best a BLEV with no 'E' on the end because there's no explosive reaction.
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@MYeahman SORRY BUT FARK-OFF I am NOT going through that argument again with yet another clown who doesn't know WTF they are talking about. There was a German explosives EXPERT on DW who explained what happened in Beirut and why it was so devastating and why it was classified as a BLEVE. WHY TF do people like you have to keep arguing things like this. Did you NOT farking read my comment and note the point where I said the definition of BLEVE needs to be made clearer. The guy who trained me as in FORMALLY TRAINED ME IN A FORMAL COURSE in FUNCTIONAL SAFETY where one of the first things we covered was BLEVEs is one of the top people in the world. He was one of the first 2 people ever certified as a Functional Safety Expert. When he speaks the entire engineering profession SHOULD shut its collective mouth and listen, BUT there's some clowns who think they know better. I really have had enough of clowns with fark-all knowledge of anything acting like farking experts in stuff they have no idea about.
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@Garythefireman66 Agreed. If its not obvious I come from a completely unrelated industry other than a lot of stuff I use or produce ends up on boats. Like a few others I got introduced to Sal via Ward Carroll (F14 RIO) and I haven't stopped watching. Gary Stevenson the young British Economist points out how he was once told if he wanted to understand how the economy was going was to walk down the street and ask people. The idea was you'd get a better idea of how the bulk of the general population felt and how they'd behave in the future. I think Sal is similar. I hear all this stuff about international trade and what various countries are doing. Most of its just some journalist filling a few minutes. You watch Sal an you actually understand how things ACTUALLY MOVE around the world without all the noise.
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