Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Thom Hartmann Program" channel.

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  22. What they have done is almost standard practice for religious movements with the goal of political power AND ITS NOT a Christian specific thing either. There's a common technique used by religious people where they lift a line or phrase out of the text and literally flip it on end and make it the opposite meaning to suit circumstances. One of the best examples of that is that snippet out of Romans 12:19 "Vengence is mine, says the Lord." Its regarded as one of the great misquotes of human history. Its been used as the Battle Cry for 100s of Christian armies over many centuries. Go read what that paragraph actually says - its the complete opposite. The Muslim suicide bombers and done similar by claiming its a from of martyrdom. Dozens of Muslim scholars have come out and said that's a misinterpretation. They completely ignore those parts that regard suicide as a sin and twist the parts on Martyrdom to include suicide if its against an enemy. The Seven Mountains people are doing similar. Both Revelations and Isiah use word pictures (like are used in parables) and its very easy to lift parts out and flip it into anything you want. But sometimes the explanations are right there in the text. In Rev 17 its says various part of the beast represent political entities as in kings & kingdoms. There's a woman riding on the back of that beast and what social institution has ridden on the back of politics like a prostitute selling itself in any way necessary to retain power, influence and wealth? Answer - organised religion. Revelation 17 is NOT about a religious movement taking over political control. Its the complete opposite. Its about secular politics getting tired of organised religion riding on its back and then turning on it and tearing it to pieces.
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  28.  @terryparenteau1200  I'm Australian but went to college in America (late 80s) and I thought at the time America was showing signs of slipping. Things like basic literacy and math skills. Don't forget America has a long history of simplifying spelling. Its one of those funny subjects between America and the rest of the English speaking world. Sorry fo he longer answer but you raise an important issue. I'm fairly well informed on what's happened in Australia with education as both my parents were High School teachers and 1 cousin was a high school principal. And our system is following America's. What's masking lower education standards are the advances in technology. If you've heard about how apps like MS Word have contributed to a decline in spelling skills because it auto corrects. We have a very similar issue in engineering with packages like AutoCad. Its brilliant in how it helps engineers design BUT it also makes them very lazy with some vital skills. The equivalent to spelling in engineering is tolerancing. That's where you decide how accurate each dimension on a part needs to be. In the past engineers had to think about how accurate each dimension needed to be and now they don't. I think there's been a long slow decline in Western Education that's been so gradual we don't realise it unless we something very specific. I've noticed in engineering but I'm certain its across the board. I think its being driven by at least 2 main things. First there's the fundamentalist religions for sure. That's the point you made and its all about power and obedience. Its been well practiced for 1000s of years by many religions that literacy is for priests and obedience is for the illiterate. Second is politics where its much easier to motivate mobs if they are less educated (eg. Trumpism). After those 2 I know of 2 others. There's pressure from business who again want obedience. There's a lesser and very significant pressure from the FAR LEFT (and I mean the far far far radical nutcase left) who want to take the "we are all equal" mantra to its extreme which means none of us are allowed to be smarter than the least intelligent person in the group. I see that in a lot of industrial training where there are NO GRADES just pass/fail. Its fine for many things but certainly not all. The strange thing is all these pressure drivers need people educated. They just don't like them too educated. Its like that great line from President Snow in the Hunger Games about how a little bit of hope is good and too much is very dangerous.
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  31. Australian here - seeing this from the outside. I have NO DOUBT the Russians were interfering in the 2016 election but I have seen very few people truly explain Putin's MOTIVES and what he actually sought. Masha Gessen (the Russian American Journalist) was interviewed on the Australian show called Planet America (for my mind) put forward the best explanation. FIRST - Masha explained that Putin wasn't a great strategic thinker and that's been born out with the disaster that is now Ukraine. Masha also explained Putin believes in ABSOLUTE LOYALTY and we all saw what he did to Yevgeny Prigozhin. So Putin would EXPECT someone like James Comey to keep his mouth shut. Most of all in Putin's Russia elections are decided beforehand and election days are just confirmations the general population knows their place or at least what percentage know their place. So in Putin's mind Hilary Clinton had already won long before election day. If that's the case then what was Putin really up to and what happened? Everybody has forgotten that out of 330 million Americans Putin hated NOBODY more than Hilary Clinton who had, as Secretary of State, called out Putin publicly and slapped Russia repeatedly with sanctions that personally hurt Putin. So just imagine this. 1) James Comey keeps silent on the emails because in Putin's mind that's what servants do. 2) Hilary then wins. 3) The Russians then leek the emails along with details James Comey covered up. What do you think Trump and the Republicans would have then done? No matter how it turns out Putin wins because: If Trump wins sure Putin gets to laugh at Hilary. BUT If Hilary wins Putin gets to watch America tear itself apart and at the very least Hilary's presidency is a disaster.
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  47. I'm an Australian who went to college in America (late 80s). I did engineering but a bunch of friends were pre-law and we used to discuss various things about how our countries worked. I'd studied Orwell in High school (Animal Farm and 1984) which was pretty standard in Australia. I used to argue, as Orwell warned, that any country could fall into a totalitarian state. They used to argue and assure mt that the American System via its constitution that it was not possible for America to become an totalitarian state. This was in the late 80s so they'd all studied civics in high school as as law students they were very well versed in the constitution and how the various parts of the system worked. I'd love to sit down with them now and ask how this has all happened considering they all assured me that this kind of thing was IMPOSSIBLE. They assured me that stripping away people's basic right to vote was IMPOSSIBLE. There's a lot going on in America they assured me was IMPOSSIBLE. They called it the "system of checks and balances." What we never discussed, because it was inconceivable. "What would happen if that system became corrupted?" The main part of that "system of checks and balances" is the US Senate, where senior government appointments and judges are confirmed. Mitch McConnel with massive funding via the Federalist Society has manged to corrupt that system so it no longer functions properly causing serious NEGATIVE EFFECTS through the entire system. And for any country that trades with and/or has security agreements with America its as serious as it can get because it means America is no longer a reliable partner.
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  48. I like dean but am going to take a more pragmatic view on his first point. There's NO GUARANTEE that Trump won't win. Hilary tried and lost that with some of the most stupid campaign strategies ever and she's now head of Biden's re-election team. I'm Australian but went to college in America U. Illinois). So I know the Midwest and Rust Belt fairly well. The moment I heard she wasn't going to campaign in Michigan I knew she was in trouble because I knew the Rust Belt was not going to take that sort of arrogance well. I wasn't alone in thinking she was going to lose. Both Rana Foroohar and Mark Blyth predicted she'd lose but for different reasons. Rana Foroohar said it was her link to NAFTA and Mark Blyth because the Dems had just screwed so many of their BLUE states over time and time again. Not only did Hilary lose Michigan but also Ohio and Penn becoming the first Democrat since Dukakis in 1988 to lose all 3. Even Gore and Kerry won 2 of those 3. If you look at the EC votes if Hilary had won those 3 as Bill and Obama had she would have won. What NOBODY on America's Left has been willing to explain or even face up to was how Trump went from 63 million votes in 2016 to 74 million votes in 2020 when every poll for 2 years had said his base was shrinking. 1) The polling WAS WRONG and NOT by a little but by a staggering amount. An extra 11 million people turned out in 2020 to vote for this guy. Hate him all you like but he knows how to appeal to particular crowds. Jesse Ventura said he learned it from Pro-Wrestling. 2) Despite all the crap and craziness his people really do see him as someone who's going to save them from the career politicians who have made their lives miserable for the past 30+ years. They don't care at all about facts or evidence or how much BS he tells. His base hates the Washington Elite so much that they'd vote for a rapid dog if it would bite one of those elitist snobs. And yes I know Trump is actually one of those elitist snobs, but he knows how to sell his base a different story. EVERYONE FORGETS that before he beat Hilary Trump beat of 16 GOP favorite sons including Jeb Bush and he didn't just beat them he wiped the floor with them. America better wake up to itself and the Democrats need to take the coldest of cold showers and realise that those 74 million might turn out to be 85 million next year.
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