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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "MUSK ON TRIAL SolarCity Bailout Day1, Pt2" video.
@commonsenseskeptic On another note I'd love to help you do a debunk of space mining. I did a degree in aerospace (late 80s). I've worked mainly in automation, robotics and controls systems. In 2002 I met Harrison Schmitt who was here in Oz to celebrate the 30th anniversary of Apollo 17. I wanted to discuss with him satellite maintenance. Everything from my background said it was an industry waiting to boom. He quashed that quick by getting me to answer why nobody has done it? He then told me look up Helium-3. That meant mining and by chance Australia was just starting a mining construction boom to feed the Chinese beast. It too some time but I got into mine site construction and operations. Unlike all the fanbots and schemers I actually have worked on mines and helped build them and get them running. I can tell from basic numbers just how ludicrous some of the proposals are. Forget the money the tonnage is the reality. For example I worked at the Tom Price Iron Mine at one point. It produces 20MTA (million tons per annum) and its perfect for the basic numbers. Good iron ore is about 70% iron content. Lower grades are 55-60% and the really high grades are up to 95% (basically iron filings with some dirt thrown in). So for every 20 tons of iron ORE we get about 14 tons of iron. Which just so happens also is the landing capacity for the Space Shuttle. So it would basically take 1,000,000 Space Shuttle flights to handle the what just 1 iron mine does each year. Australia doesn't produce 20MTA it produces over 800MTA of ORE and China produces over 1,200MTA of ORE. Other than for incredibly rare and hyper value substances that the entire world demand is under 100tons per year will ever be feasible. Your mate Angry Astronaut just last week just pointed out the potential to mine nickel from the moon. One of my construction projects was Nickel mine. Global production of Nickel in 2020 was 2.5 million MTA (of metal). Which if we got from the moon would require about 178,000 space shuttle flights to land it here on Earth. What about Copper that's about 20MTA a year (of metal). In a way I like Anrgry because he stands up and calls out a lot of things that need calling out. BUT THEN he states some idiotic garbage and does it regularly. People can scream and yell all they like AND THEY DO. The fanbots scream at me all the time. Even if we suddenly got a Space Shuttle with 10x the capacity it still doesn't make sense. Except for incredibly rare ultra-high value substances NOBODY will be space mining anything anytime soon. So if you do want to do a debunk on the whole space mining thing let me know.
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@commonsenseskeptic To both you and Mr. Clem the word "engineer" is NOT protected under any law anywhere the sam eas words like doctor and dentist are. I can't explain the history across the world but I can explain what happened in Australia. I started in Mech. Eng at RMIT (Melbourne Australia) in 1983. On day 1 we had the Institute of Engineers Australia talk to us about becoming student members. During that they discussed a couple of legal issues. They went all through the subject of people using the word "engineer." At some point in Australian History just before or just after WW2 several professions were offered the right to claim exclusive legal use of the word that labels their profession. I know of 3, accountants, architects and engineers. Engineers and Accountants opted out because it would take about 50 years to completely retire out all the unqualified people already calling themselves engineer or accountant. The Architects said yes and they'd deal with the unqualified. The institutes for engineers and accountants opted for post graduate certifications and we now have the legal terms "chartered accountant" and "chartered engineer." It usually requires 4 years of practice after graduation to be come eligible to get chartered. I don't know the exact process because for engineers These days anyone can draw a house or building up in CAD or on paper and submit it to planning authorities. They can do it for other people and charge money. BUT if they use the word "architect" to describe themselves in any way and they are NOT degree qualified they can get charged with fraud. For accountants and engineers there are certain specific tasks where being a "chartered accountant" or "chartered engineer" is required. In engineering the only 2 places I know it matters are for civil engineers doing structural work and electrical for power grid/distribution, and then only the civil structural where there's actual legal requirements. Civil Structural engineers get licensed, but then they are the guys who say the bridges and buildings wont collapse. 🤷♂️🤷♂️ An odd area where I know the word "engineer" is strictly controlled is in aircraft maintenance. We call aircraft mechanics LAME (pronounced lay-mee) for Licensed Mechanical Airframe Engineer. They are NOT degree qualified. They are the aircraft equivalent of a motor mechanic. So the word engineer is not a controlled word and that's common. I know it sucks but Elon is free like any other person to declare himself an engineer. I totally effing hate it, but that's how it is. Great vid.
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@commonsenseskeptic We now have terms like "registered professional engineer" BUT NONE of it means squat. So long as LAWYERS & PR protect the CEOs and their sneaky slimy disgusting economists, accountants and HR - the QUALIFICATIONS & EXPERIENCE of engineers wont matter. Boeing Max-8 should have FINALLY changed things and been the end of fake and false engineering practices. It certainly should have ended interference from the uneducated over the educated. They killed over 300 people for money and so far NOBODY has been held accountable. Elon will never be held to account for his bad engineering. He could stack 100 dumb fanbots into Starship tomorrow, light the fuse and blow them into confetti without any worry. Kyle Rittenhouse shot 2 people and it was FILMED. The whole world saw it and in any other place EXCEPT America he'd be in jail. When powerful people with vested interests are involved CEOs KNOW they can get away with stuff. There are too many powerful people with money in Tesla. For sure as you pointed out in another vid its monstrously over valued. Its insane how overvalued it is. That doesn't matter squat. Until Elon does something they can't ignore he's free do to whatever he likes. I'm not certain of your qualifications but your clearly smart enough to understand that.
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