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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "STARSHIP IN SITU REFILLING ON MARS - Part 2 of 2" video.
I am an aerospace engineer and I can explain in detail all the stuff that they have simply not bothered to think about. Its not simply Musk or his fanbots, NASA aren't exactly innocent. There's a staggering amount og science fiction PR garbage in the space industry at the moment. Back in 2002 I met Harrison Schmitt (Apollo 17) and at that time he was talking up the Helium-3 opportunity on the moon. As an Australian at that stage there was no easy way into NASA or even their programs. So an independent project with credibility was possible. At that time Australia was just starting a mining construction boom to feed the Chinese beast. It took a couple of years but I snuck my way into remote mine site construction and the analogies to setting up anything on the moon become fairly obvious after some time doing that work. 1) EVERYTHING needs to be thought ahead. When you are in the middle of the desert nothign is just down the road because the road is 1500km long. Prior to that time I worked in our manufacturing sector and 90% of everything was at worst an hour away. On a remote mine site, even if airplanes come regularly you have to consider everything is at least 3 days away. Its a giant non-stop logistical exercise that never ends. 2) Everything you take for granted in a city like water and power has to be treated very seriously. Most people never consider what happens when they flush the toilet. On a mine site that's a serious consideration along with all other waste. Most of all the food has to be trucked or flown in, then stored, then cooked, then eaten and then cleaned up. Humans eat, shit, pee and breath. Spaceship earth is great for cleaning our mess and we take that for granted. 3) Mine sites are primarily dirt and rock crushing & grinding plants. That means wear and tear on everything. I got hold of the papers for a NASA conference on the moon (well over 200 pages). The total commentary on maintenance was less than 1-1/2 pages, 1/2 of which was a diagram and all they said was we'll do it with robots. That told me that NONE OF THEM had ever spent any time on a mine site. When I see clowns talking about mining asteroids I can tell NONE OF THEM had ever spent time on a mine site. When I hear Jeff Bezos talking about taking all the iron ore processing off planet I know he's not done any of the basic math hon that.
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I am an aerospace engineer and I can explain in detail all the stuff that they have simply not bothered to think about. Its not simply Musk or his fanbots, NASA aren't exactly innocent. There's a staggering amount og science fiction PR garbage in the space industry at the moment. Back in 2002 I met Harrison Schmitt (Apollo 17) and at that time he was talking up the Helium-3 opportunity on the moon. As an Australian at that stage there was no easy way into NASA or even their programs. So an independent project with credibility was possible. At that time Australia was just starting a mining construction boom to feed the Chinese beast. It took a couple of years but I snuck my way into remote mine site construction and the analogies to setting up anything on the moon become fairly obvious after some time doing that work. 1) EVERYTHING needs to be thought ahead. When you are in the middle of the desert nothign is just down the road because the road is 1500km long. Prior to that time I worked in our manufacturing sector and 90% of everything was at worst an hour away. On a remote mine site, even if airplanes come regularly you have to consider everything is at least 3 days away. Its a giant non-stop logistical exercise that never ends. 2) Everything you take for granted in a city like water and power has to be treated very seriously. Most people never consider what happens when they flush the toilet. On a mine site that's a serious consideration along with all other waste. Most of all the food has to be trucked or flown in, then stored, then cooked, then eaten and then cleaned up. Humans eat, shit, pee and breath. Spaceship earth is great for cleaning our mess and we take that for granted. 3) Mine sites are primarily dirt and rock crushing & grinding plants. That means wear and tear on everything. I got hold of the papers for a NASA conference on the moon (well over 200 pages). The total commentary on maintenance was less than 1-1/2 pages, 1/2 of which was a diagram and all they said was we'll do it with robots. That told me that NONE OF THEM had ever spent any time on a mine site. When I see clowns talking about mining asteroids I can tell NONE OF THEM had ever spent time on a mine site. When I hear Jeff Bezos talking about taking all the iron ore processing off planet I know he's not done any of the basic math hon that.
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