Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "This US miner has discovered enough lithium for 50 million EVs" video.

  1. You have one of the few smart answers I can see here. Clearly a lot of people here have NEVER worked in the mining industry or have NO IDEA about manufacturing, but then most of these idiots spouting nonsense have NO IDEA because they have never been involved in manufacturing or been involved in mining and I'VE DONE BOTH. I used to work in the Australian automotive sector before it shut down and have since worked in the Australian mining sector in control systems and automation. 1: There's a giant difference between finding a deposit, getting it properly assessed and then being able to mine it. Circa 2006 I worked on the construction of the Ravensthorpe Nickel project. BHP spent $3.5 Billion on the project. It was laterite nickel which is a bitch to process, but it was justified by the quality of the deposit and the value of Nickel. BHP did NOT complete a full drilling test pattern and the deposit was found to be NOWHERE near as good as the PR claimed. The mine was closed after about 18months and sold for less than 1/7th ($500 Million) its. The Lesson: Don't believe the PR hype even when its from a major player. 2: You absolutely do need Nickel for batteries, just as you need copper for the electrical cabling in an EV just as you need all the other metals, glass and plastics. Go and look at your car and see how much stuff is actually in one. If you have ever been in the plants where they make all those bits that go into a car you'll quickly understand that it takes a whole range of raw materials and lots of energy to make the bits that make a car and all of that uses lots of energy. The quickest way we can reduce emissions is to reduce how much energy we consume as a society. THE AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURING SECTOR is one of the largest energy consumers because it not only uses a lot of energy making the cars it uses a lot of energy getting the raw materials out of the ground and processing that into the raw feed stock to make the parts the cars are made from. The best thing we can do is NOT replace old cars with new cars but replace the drive systems in old cars with EV and Hybrid systems. It will save huge amounts of energy and resources while keeping millions of people employed. BUILDING EFFICIENCY: The other great (and inefficient) user of energy are BIG BUILDINGS. Mark Blyth the political economist from Brown U. pointed out this a couple of years ago. Some engineer worked out that just triple glazing all of America's buildings would employ 1000's and 1000's of people for well over a decade and reduce America's emissions so much that meeting the Paris goals is easy because you can then turn off a bunch of dirty old coal fired power stations. All those big giant glass boxes are designed by architects to look pretty NOT by engineers to be efficient. Not only would it creat employment but raise the asset values of all those buildings as well as reduce the power costs all the tenants have making them more profitable. I'd like to hear an economist claim that's not a good idea.
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  2. Clearly a lot of people here have NEVER worked in the mining industry or have NO IDEA about manufacturing, but then most of these idiots spouting nonsense have NO IDEA because they have never been involved in manufacturing or been involved in mining and I'VE DONE BOTH. I used to work in the Australian automotive sector before it shut down and have since worked in the Australian mining sector in control systems and automation. 1: There's a giant difference between finding a deposit, getting it properly assessed and then being able to mine it. Circa 2006 I worked on the construction of the Ravensthorpe Nickel project. BHP spent $3.5 Billion on the project. It was laterite nickel which is a bitch to process, but it was justified by the quality of the deposit and the value of Nickel. BHP did NOT complete a full drilling test pattern and the deposit was found to be NOWHERE near as good as the PR claimed. The mine was closed after about 18months and sold for less than 1/7th ($500 Million) its. The Lesson: Don't believe the PR hype even when its from a major player. 2: You absolutely do need Nickel for batteries, just as you need copper for the electrical cabling in an EV just as you need all the other metals, glass and plastics. Go and look at your car and see how much stuff is actually in one. If you have ever been in the plants where they make all those bits that go into a car you'll quickly understand that it takes a whole range of raw materials and lots of energy to make the bits that make a car and all of that uses lots of energy. The quickest way we can reduce emissions is to reduce how much energy we consume as a society. THE AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURING SECTOR is one of the largest energy consumers because it not only uses a lot of energy making the cars it uses a lot of energy getting the raw materials out of the ground and processing that into the raw feed stock to make the parts the cars are made from. The best thing we can do is NOT replace old cars with new cars but replace the drive systems in old cars with EV and Hybrid systems. It will save huge amounts of energy and resources while keeping millions of people employed. BUILDING EFFICIENCY: The other great (and inefficient) user of energy are BIG BUILDINGS. Mark Blyth the political economist from Brown U. pointed out this a couple of years ago. Some engineer worked out that just triple glazing all of America's buildings would employ 1000's and 1000's of people for well over a decade and reduce America's emissions so much that meeting the Paris goals is easy because you can then turn off a bunch of dirty old coal fired power stations. All those big giant glass boxes are designed by architects to look pretty NOT by engineers to be efficient. Not only would it creat employment but raise the asset values of all those buildings as well as reduce the power costs all the tenants have making them more profitable. I'd like to hear an economist claim that's not a good idea.
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  3.  @darylfoster7944  That is one of the great questions. Why aren't we already triple glazing every one of those giant glass boxes? To be honest I don't know, but then common sense and corporate decisions don't always line up.
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  4.  @darylfoster7944  On putting electric or hybrid drivetrains into legacy cars. You're right there is absolutely no incentive for existing car manufacturers to supply new drive trains. They make their money selling new cars not parts for cars. I worked in the Australian auto industry when we had one and as far as they were concerned they hate spare parts. That hate having to make them, they hate having to store them and they hate having to supply them. Its why they charge so much and why its so profitable to take wrecked cars and strip them of good parts that can be re-sold. But since Australia no longer has a car industry it actually makes sense for us to develop an electric and hybrid electric upgrade industry. In a country like Japan with their laws on vehicle ownership it makes no sense. In America and Europe it makes sense to have some industry developed as PART of an overall strategy, but not have it be the main solution. If you did you'd kill the existing manufacturing base causing mass unemployment and that's the economic disaster everyone needs to avoid. These are things each country needs to look at and work out what's best for them, but we all need to work on it.
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  5.  @darylfoster7944  On lithium you need to take comments by Elon Musk the way any sensible person does and consider it bullshite. After working in manufacturing I went to the mining sector where I have been for most of the last 20 years. Everyone thinks mineral extraction is like what you see on Alaskan gold mining shows - ITS NOT. Gold is one of the very few metals that exists as metal most form oxides and other compounds. The weirdest and funniest story I have was my introduction on an Alumina refinery. They simply told a room full of people that if we couldn't handle being stripped naked and held under a cold shower for 1/2 and hour to FK-OFF and they were that blunt. To dissolve the aluminum out of bauxite you use caustic soda at temperatures over 140C (280F) and high pressure. If any of that gets on you then you are under a cold shower immediately or you're FKD. I also worked on mine sites where the power station burns sulphur. Sulphur burns like coal except you get SO2 not CO2. With a catalytic converter you get SO3 and mix that with 100% pure water to get H2SO4 better known as sulphuric acid. You then use the H2SO4 to dissolve the nickel, copper,... out of the ore. I have been on sites where the H2SO4 was 100% pure, which freaked me out until the chemistry boys explained how it works. So trust me I know how much Elon is full of shite on the subject.
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  6. Clearly a lot of people here have NEVER worked in the mining industry or have NO IDEA about manufacturing, but then most of these idiots spouting nonsense have NO IDEA because they have never been involved in manufacturing or been involved in mining and I'VE DONE BOTH. I used to work in the Australian automotive sector before it shut down and have since worked in the Australian mining sector in control systems and automation. 1: There's a giant difference between finding a deposit, getting it properly assessed and then being able to mine it. Circa 2006 I worked on the construction of the Ravensthorpe Nickel project. BHP spent $3.5 Billion on the project. It was laterite nickel which is a bitch to process, but it was justified by the quality of the deposit and the value of Nickel. BHP did NOT complete a full drilling test pattern and the deposit was found to be NOWHERE near as good as the PR claimed. The mine was closed after about 18months and sold for less than 1/7th ($500 Million) its. The Lesson: Don't believe the PR hype even when its from a major player. 2: You absolutely do need Nickel for batteries, just as you need copper for the electrical cabling in an EV just as you need all the other metals, glass and plastics. Go and look at your car and see how much stuff is actually in one. If you have ever been in the plants where they make all those bits that go into a car you'll quickly understand that it takes a whole range of raw materials and lots of energy to make the bits that make a car and all of that uses lots of energy. The quickest way we can reduce emissions is to reduce how much energy we consume as a society. THE AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURING SECTOR is one of the largest energy consumers because it not only uses a lot of energy making the cars it uses a lot of energy getting the raw materials out of the ground and processing that into the raw feed stock to make the parts the cars are made from. The best thing we can do is NOT replace old cars with new cars but replace the drive systems in old cars with EV and Hybrid systems. It will save huge amounts of energy and resources while keeping millions of people employed. BUILDING EFFICIENCY: The other great (and inefficient) user of energy are BIG BUILDINGS. Mark Blyth the political economist from Brown U. pointed out this a couple of years ago. Some engineer worked out that just triple glazing all of America's buildings would employ 1000's and 1000's of people for well over a decade and reduce America's emissions so much that meeting the Paris goals is easy because you can then turn off a bunch of dirty old coal fired power stations. All those big giant glass boxes are designed by architects to look pretty NOT by engineers to be efficient. Not only would it creat employment but raise the asset values of all those buildings as well as reduce the power costs all the tenants have making them more profitable. I'd like to hear an economist claim that's not a good idea.
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