Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "BREAKING: Alec Baldwin Charged With Manslaughter" video.

Its even simpler than that and KYLE IS 100% WRONG The most basic part of gun safety is: If you pick up or are handed a gun it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to check its status. What anyone else has done is almost irrelevant. THE MOMENT you take possession of a gun you are responsible for what happens until someone else takes possession of that gun. There is no way around this point.
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Same here, I have been around guns for many years and even used to compete in rifle. KYLE IS 100% WRONG The most basic part of gun safety is: If you pick up or are handed a gun it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to check its status. What anyone else has done is almost irrelevant. THE MOMENT you take possession of a gun you are responsible for what happens until someone else takes possession of that gun. There is no way around this point.
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@jamespower5165 AS I JUST SAID TO ANOTHER CLOWN - IT DOES NOT MATTER Gun safety is gun safety - real or replica it does not matter. If you had bothered to pay attention to the people who make movies they they all talk about how they put the actors through basic weapons training so they look like they know what they are doing on in the film. That means they all get basic gun safety BEFORE the start of filming. Its just amazing how ignorant of basic safety principles some people are.
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KYLE IS 100% WRONG The most basic part of gun safety is: If you pick up or are handed a gun it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to check its status. What anyone else has done is almost irrelevant. THE MOMENT you take possession of a gun you are responsible for what happens until someone else takes possession of that gun. There is no way around this point.
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@ignatzmeyer1978 IT DOES NOT MATTER Real or replica, gun safety does not change. By the way it was a real gun, in case you missed that point.
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ABSOLUTELY CORRECT My grandfather was a farmer and like most farmers had guns. When I turned 12 he taught me shoot and before we started he explained basic gun safety. For a moment he went from being my super cool grandfather to the strictest teacher I ever had. KYLE IS 100% WRONG The most basic part of gun safety is: If you pick up or are handed a gun it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to check its status. What anyone else has done is almost irrelevant. THE MOMENT you take possession of a gun you are responsible for what happens until someone else takes possession of that gun. There is no way around this point.
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@jamespower5165 YOU CLEARLY HAVE NEVER FIRED A GUN AND HAVE NO IDEA BASIC SAFETY TRAINING IN ANYTHING. Right after the "accident" experts who work on movies explained it all. They follow the same sort fundamental practices other industries follow. For any hazardous activity you train in places where you can CONTROL THE RISKS. You train people for hazardous activities in highly controlled environments where you can control the risk. Commercial Pilots learn how to handle difficult procedures in simulators. Fire fighters learn to fight fires in specialised facilities. etc. etc. etc. Any training with guns and live ammunition happens at a GUN RANGE where they have CONTROL of the RISKS. I don't think you have any idea about workplace safety, safety training or safety management. Its people like you who cause accidents.
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@hurmur9528 You've hit it in a nutshell - you've never handled a gun. Its why they take actors to gun ranges and teach them how to handle guns PROPERLY. They do that for 2 reasons: 1) SAFETY 2) So that it looks right on film. REMEMBER those guns are still capable of firing blanks. That means they have a functional mechanism. If you pull the trigger they go bang. As plenty of weapon masters said at the time - the guns they use in films appear to be real and they handle like real guns except bullets don't come out.
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@hurmur9528 Comparing an actor to the military is about the stupidest comparison I have heard yet.
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@UtiliTerran Congratulations you have just become the number 1 DlCKHEAD un this thread. Your words "actors are required to break gun safety rules on set all the time" has to be one of the most IDI0TIC claims I have ever heard. GO BACK AND WATCH what the experts from other films said at the time.
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@UtiliTerran Now you are doing the same stupid argument as others. Everything you can to EXCUSE people who were irresponsible. When superman used to claim "Truth, Justice and the American way" he really should have said "I'm here to protect Lies, Greed and Excuse Stupidity."
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@UtiliTerran Yeah no doubt there are others who have responsibility in this tragedy and lets not forget its a tragedy, but ultimately if you pick up a gun you are responsible for it. its not different form when you get in a car and drive or any of dozens of other things. This is one of the major issues of modern society we wont OTHER people held accountable for what they do but NOT us, NOT our friends and NOT those celebrities and politicians we like. Look at all the crap in Washington. There's 2 groups of clowns screaming about holding people on the other side accountable as they let people on their side get away with everything.
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@UtiliTerran YOU WHAT WHAT JUST FARK OFF BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT GUN SAFETY I doubt you have ever done any sort of safety training of any type in any work place. Because you haven't a clue about hazard identification, risk assessment, safety management or anything else. You are a perfect example of why accidents happen. People with NO EXPERTISE who WONT LISTEN but have every excuse imaginable.
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To few of the clowns who have wanted to argue gun safety just notice how Utili Terran just deleted all his comments. Before he did he sent me one last remark and here's PART of it "I lead a risk assessment 3 days ago and have experience and training in firearms. I know the rules." Big mistake on his part because he's ADMITTED that this is the type of accident ANYONE with a background in workplace safety should understand. Let alone anyone who has had even basic firearm training. FIRST RULE of gun safety: Check the gun, including what it is loaded with. FIRST RULE of Workplace Safety: Identify your hazards and assess their risk. FIRIST STEP of HAZARD MITIGATION is ELIMINATE the Hazard. In this case the hazard was live ammunition on a movie set and that's easy to eliminate. DON'T have live ammunition on set. Expert weapon masters repeatedly said when this accident first happened. "There should NEVER have been live ammunition on the set." There's to many distractions, but that does NOT excuse anyone from NOT checking a gun when handed to them.
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