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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "How Elon Musk Got Rich | The Kyle Kulinski Show" video.
Yeah, yup, duh - facepalm. I saw an interview the other day with Edward Niedermeyer by Nathan Robinson at Current Affair who Kyle just panned over his comments on John Fetterman's campaign strategy. the Interview was 7 Months ago. The book "Ludicrous: The Unvarnished Story of Tesla Motors" was published in 2019 and its been ignored until recent months. I'm an aerospace engineer who works in control systems and automation and its pretty clear to every respectable engineer on the planet that Elon's full of shite. Most engineers have met people like him and they are usually salesmen who can make any promise they like to get the deal SIGNED but don't have to deal with the issues of DELIVERING that deal. One company I worked for we (the engineers) knew when we were screwed because the sales manager made more noise than usual about how great of a project he just sold and how "we'd enjoy the challenge." Elon does exactly the same thing. He did it with driverless cars, electric trucks and hyperloop to name a few. His people joke about it calling it "Elon Time."
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@originalsinquirls1205 You're argument isn't without merit but you are seriously underplaying Elon's motivations and behavior. What ever you like to claim at the end of the day its about Elon being center stage (as in he's a narcissist) and about having power, which is starting to become more and more obvious in how he deals with people. Go look at any of the financial analysts who have looked at the value of Tesla. Forget the people who just don't like him because there answers are obvious. Listen to what the analysts are saying and they are all saying (if they have a brain) "Don't buy Tesla, because its massively overvalued." But then several of the major Gig-economy tech stocks are also seriously overvalued and they all work the same way. Almost 20 years ago my fathers stockbroker explained to me the concept of price earnings ratio. A bunch of these tech stocks don't have a PER because they have never paid any dividends. They trade on their price going up endlessly and that has NEVER worked - Real Estate is the classic example. Its traded as always going up, but long term history says that every 80-120 years housing prices collapse and lose 90-95% of their value. Occasionally its only 20-30% (like 2008). There were a few mavericks who study that stuff desperately trying to tell the world that BEFORE the 2008 GFC. Some of those people are saying it again now, because housing prices are now even higher than it was in 2008. We just saw what happened to the fantasy land that was Crypto. Before too long the fantasy that is Gig-Tech is going to suffer the same fate.
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@rlh12345 Absolutely, its one of the things that separates Elon from other scammers. He actually has some very good products to sell. I try and make the point that he is a great technology promoter and maybe is the best person we have ever seen at it. Jobs and Gates were good but I think Elon's better than both of them at promoting technology. For example: Tesla that car would never have been where it is without Elon's ability to promote it. Also SpaceX has blown Boeing away on getting people into space. The last time an American flew to the ISS on the Soyuz it cost $80 million for 1 seat. SpaceX with crew dragon costs $70 million for 4 seats. I get into arguments with BOTH sides of the Elon argument. I hate the fanbots because they believe everything Elon says and take it as techno-Gospel. I argue with the debunkers because they ignore the things he has gotten right. Like getting an electric vehicle into the main stream market when the car industry said it was impossible was world class and deserving of praise. He smashed that class ceiling. What SpaceX has don in saving the US manned space program is also deserving of praise. BUT and its a damn huge BUT Elon's success does not give him the right to lie and bullshit people with garbage or rip off share holders with selfish deals, like he did with Solar City, Hyperloop, driverless cars and this idiotic nonsense with Starship. I am an aerospace engineer and Starship is a delusional ego trip. He has Crew Dragon and it works. He has Falcon Heavy and it works. That means he has BOTH a taxi to space and work truck to space. Shit that's 100% of what you need to do serious stuff. Instead of finding ways to go to the Moon or Mars he's off in the sci-fi section of Egoville.
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@brycewilson5886 Quite possibly right.
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Former Child Model Seriously will you people making all the claims about 2020 just FK-OFF. There's been recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount after recount. AND NOTHING CHANGED. TRUMP LOST DEAL WITH IT.
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NO KYLE LIKE SO MANY OTHER YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE THE OBVIOUS SIGNS Just like so many did with Elizabeth Holmes. Just like so many did with Bernie Madoff. just Like so many did with Carlo Pietro Giovanni Guglielmo Tebaldo Ponzi.
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