Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Mark Levin: We Must Save Democracy By Overthrowing It!" video.

Somebody needs to ask Mark Levin the following Question: When did BLM, ANTIFA, Democrats, 1960s counter culture hippies, tree hugging Kumbaya singing environmentalists, Occupy Wall Street, Lafayette Park or any other protesters storm the capitol, kill a police officer, tear down the American flag and replace it with another flag? For anyone interested please feel free to copy that question and post it anywhere you like. Someone else first directed me to this quote by Vice POTUS Wallace, who was alive when Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin were in power to personally see what those sorts of people are like. the 2 highlights about method and patriotism are mine. Henry A. Wallace, Vice President of the United States in the New York Times, April 9, 1944 “The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”
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Your sentiment is on the money but DO NOT lay the foundation of the next Trump Presidency by re-fueling the resentment that gave the world that last 4 years. ABSOLUTELY PUNISH those who stormed the capitol. They killed a cop and that MUST have consequences. Lets just sit back a moment and let the new AG Merrick Garland and the DOJ do their job. Don't forget the seeds for WW2 were laid in the treaty of Versailles which hammered the German people and created the resentment that Hitler weaponized. Trump did the same when he took advantage of people who had been left in the gutter by both parties. People seem to forget his base gave the middle finger to people like Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush. No one should want to help lay the foundation for another Trump presidency (him, his son or his daughter) by creating more resentment. EFFING NAIL the scum who trashed the capitol and killed the cop, but avoid creating a platform for the next Trump.
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@limedickandrew6016 Exactly f--king how? If you want to draw a distinction fine but don't make a lame no brain function comment. Here's my distinction. Charge the people who did things deserving of being charged including the politicians and others (like Giuliani) who incited this disaster. BUT DON'T dump a blanket over everyone that fuels UNECCESSARY resentment. The people who get charged and their friends will resent it, that can't be helped. But dropping a blanket over the entire South - C'mon man. The British, French and others tried that and it didn't work and we got WW2 and 50million dead to read about in history books and watch on film.
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Somebody needs to ask Mark Levin the following Question: When did BLM, ANTIFA, Democrats, 1960s counter culture hippies, tree hugging Kumbaya singing environmentalists, Occupy Wall Street, Lafayette Park or any other protesters storm the capitol, kill a police officer, tear down the American flag and replace it with another flag? For anyone interested please feel free to copy that question and post it anywhere you like. Someone else first directed me to this quote by Vice POTUS Wallace, who was alive when Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin were in power to personally see what those sorts of people are like. the 2 highlights about method and patriotism are mine. Henry A. Wallace, Vice President of the United States in the New York Times, April 9, 1944 “The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”
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@MattZaharias In th emodern American context your right, but in the historical context its a bit more complex. In the basic definitions its confusing as its both anti-communist and anti-conservatism. There seems to be only a few things everyone is consistent on - its authoritarian, its on the far radical right and its bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Definitions If you go into it its quagmire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism So I think we should keep it simple - its authoritarian, its on the far radical right and its bad. In the mean time I'll leave you that whack job "Wutsa hammerfir" and his delusions - good luck and don't forget: “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Here's a few other quotes you can ram down their ignoant throats - enjoy "When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent." ― Isaac Asimov “Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace.” ― Rod Sterling in his introduction to the Twilight episode “The Obsolete Man” aired on June 2, 1961 on CBS. “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ― Voltaire “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” ― Aldous Huxley “Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche “Nobody can get the truth out of me because even I don’t know what it is. I keep myself in a state of utter confusion.” ― Colonel Flagg of the CIA, MASH sometime in the 1970s.
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@tubewatch59 Fine but when did BLM, ANTIFA, Democrats, 1960s counter culture hippies, tree hugging Kumbaya singing environmentalists, Occupy Wall Street, Lafayette Park or any other protesters storm the capitol, kill a police officer, tear down the American flag and replace it with another flag?
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@DoctorHouse999 Mainly just before and after the second world war, when they flipped and used the "New Deal" as a platform. There's a lot of vids on it here on YT just search "history of the democrats"
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@anthonyc8927 Are you that stupid to not realise what those judges meant by throwing out cases for a LACK OF EVIDENCE Sidney Powell is already in the process of being sued out of existence for her lies. Maybe the hint to people like you was when Giuliani, Trump and others distanced themselves from her.
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@limitlessapocalypse2702 Actually you're wrong the Democrats and Republicans did flip. The Democrats were founded in the South and supported slavery. The KKK were a militant offshoot. They went through a change after the great depression, that really took hold after WW2 and they slid to the left supporting the "New Deal" but only far enough to get support from workers and unions to win power. The Republicans started in the North. Lincoln was a Republican and he freed the slaves and now white supremacist's support the party who fought against slavery. One day I really want to see a Klansman explain how they went from being Democrats to supporting the party that "freed the slaves." The Republicans actually started sliding to seriously to the right during the Reagan years when the evangelicals of the South shifted and began supporting Reagan. The most bizarre claim made during Reagans time was by David Koch one of the 2 Koch brothers. He ran against Reagan on the libertarian ticket claiming "Reagan was too far to the left." Its people like the Kochs who have dragged the Republicans further and further to the right. Charles Koch the other brother was interviewed recently and complained that politicians who he put in place would NOT DO AS HE WANTED. Its not the only case in America of a political entity doing a 180flip. The NRA before the early 70s supported gun control. They used to hold the competitions that selected US teams for the Olympics and World Championships. They were against the madness we see today. In the early 70s the gun lobby got tired of them and funded a new group to get control of them. It worked, they got control, flipped the NRA and voila no more of those pesky gun control people. The NRA went from being a sports association to a political machine. I don't know if they even hold competitions any more.
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@limitlessapocalypse2702 Aaaaand your ignorance of actual history is so staggering it barely deserves a reply, but for others I'll try. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Emergence_as_Republican_leader) and these days White Supremacist's back the Republicans like they did with Kelley Loeffler. Take your pick from this list. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kelly+loeffler+white+supremecist The first grand Wizard of the KKK wanted to overthrow Republican governments. "Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest was elected the first grand wizard, and claimed to be the Klan's national leader.[35][74] In an 1868 newspaper interview, Forrest stated that the Klan's primary opposition was to the Loyal Leagues, Republican state governments," Cut & pasted from -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#Creation_and_naming Here's one of many videos on how the democrats changed -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6R0NvVr164 The NRA flipped in the 1970s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#History Pay attention to their shift in activities from being a sport association to a political movement in the section 1970s-Present. Here's a short vid on how it happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03zyVprh4f0 Now if you want to be ignorant (and ignorant means to ignore) and stupid (as in you don't think) then bother someone else. In the mean time do some real study of history or go back to school and next time listen to your teachers.
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Somebody needs to ask Mark Levin the following Question: When did BLM, ANTIFA, Democrats, 1960s counter culture hippies, tree hugging Kumbaya singing environmentalists, Occupy Wall Street, Lafayette Park or any other protesters storm the capitol, kill a police officer, tear down the American flag and replace it with another flag? For anyone interested please feel free to copy that question and post it anywhere you like. Someone else first directed me to this quote by Vice POTUS Wallace, who was alive when Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin were in power to personally see what those sorts of people are like. the 2 highlights about method and patriotism are mine. Henry A. Wallace, Vice President of the United States in the New York Times, April 9, 1944 “The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”
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Somebody needs to ask Mark Levin the following Question: When did BLM, ANTIFA, Democrats, 1960s counter culture hippies, tree hugging Kumbaya singing environmentalists, Occupy Wall Street, Lafayette Park or any other protesters storm the capitol, kill a police officer, tear down the American flag and replace it with another flag? For anyone interested please feel free to copy that question and post it anywhere you like. Someone else first directed me to this quote by Vice POTUS Wallace, who was alive when Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin were in power to personally see what those sorts of people are like. the 2 highlights about method and patriotism are mine. Henry A. Wallace, Vice President of the United States in the New York Times, April 9, 1944 “The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”
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@limitlessapocalypse2702 Well then how come you don't know the basic history of either the Democratic or Republican Parties? How come you don't understand that political parties change over time? I thought American education was slipping but your high school seems to have fallen off a cliff. Here's a leg up. Mark Blyth is the Eastman Professor of Political Economy at Brown University. He was one of the very few who predicted Brexit and Trump. In economics he's one of the smartest people on the planet. Last year he gave 3 lectures during a conference at McMaster U in Canada. This one is on the History of Economics over the last century and how we got to this point in time -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoe_daP0DE Sit down and listen because this guy very smart. Its also free and to go to Brown and hear it costs a lot of money. When you can tell me how many economic models we've had this last century and why they failed we can talk further.
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@limitlessapocalypse2702 I just sent you a link to a free lecture from one of the worlds top economists you come back with "Kelly is a white supremecist?" Who's Kelly? You are either a bot or the most brainless clown I've dealt with recently. Either start showing some brain function or get reported as a bot.
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@limedickandrew6016 Not disagreeing with you on several points. I have been pointing out the fact for the past few weeks about the guns and 50+ million who really do believe they were cheated. The majority are gun owners who've been stockpiling so much ammunition that gun shops have run out of bullets to sell. More than a few times I have pointed those details only to get very blunt replies that included the words "fu-k" and "off." The top enablers have to go down - Trump, Giuliani and the other clown who spoke at that rally, wound them up and set them on that rampage. Hawley, Cruz and the other opportunists who fueled it despite KNOWING what the constitution actually says. They have to be done for all of that. A COP WAS KILLED TRYING TO PROTECT THEM and today the whole world today saw Matt Getz trying to claim it was ANTIFA. People like Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham, the clowns at OAN & Newsmax who all fueled this over recent weeks should be on notice, a cop was killed and that elevates everything. I would expect them all to be named in one of the biggest law suits in American history as well as the one all the COVID victims will be throwing their way as well. 4134 died from COVID - the worst day yet for the whole pandemic happened the same day.
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@limedickandrew6016 In one respect I agree with your opening remark, while another part of me wants to beat you with a bat. Hurting people who are NOT responsible for anything more than providing public safety is unacceptable. Its not just police either - across the World these past few years all sorts of people who are doing nothing more that trying help those in need have been abused and in many instances killed. I certainly don't know all of America's issues (and I'll do a second note on that), but on a basic comparison between BLM & ANTIFA versus the Trumpists. 1: BLM & ANTIFA have zero political power. The Trumpists have had their man in the White House for the last 4 years. 2: BLM came from a response to rogue members of the authorities killing black people. The Trumpists have had their man publicly call for protestors to be locked up, sacked form the NFL and many other things. 3: BLM & ANTIFA did not at nay stage storm the capitol and tear down the US flag and replace it with their own. 4 BLM & ANTIFA did not call for the overthrow of the government they called for the fair treatment of every person in America. The Trumpists demanded that the 15th Amendment rights of million of American be simply thrown out. 5: BLM & ANTIFA have demanded that all Americans be fairly treated by the courts. The Trumpists got their days in court and either forfeited or lost over 50 times, only winning once in Pennsylvania on a procedural issue that had nothing to do with voting fraud or irregularities. They even got near instant access to SCOTUS where they also go thrown out for a lack of evidence. 6: On the subject of evidence BLM has the bodies of many including Breonna Taylor and the footage of George Floyd having the life choked out of him. the Trumpists have had over 50 occasions in court to provide evidence of their claims and NOTHING of CREDIBILITY has been presented. 7: Finally both are guilty of public disturbance, property damage, assault of law enforcement officers and other crimes. That's the only thing they have in common, but in terms of mitigating circumstances they could not be more different. FYI- I do not what its like to be on the bad side of a rogue police officer. Last year I was assaulted by an off duty officer and the only reason I can read your words is good fortune. I was wearing my reading glasses or the boiling mug of soup he threw in my face (after kicking me and threating to cut my head off) would have blinded me. I had burns all over my face from my chin to the top of my head - my glasses saved my eyesight. Hours later it was police officers who came and dragged him away in hand-cuffs. When they failed to find one of his illegal weapons they listened to me, went back, searched again and found it. So yeah I personally know from a very personnel experience the difference between that majority of police officers whose intent is to make our lives safer and those few who are the opposite.
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@limedickandrew6016 On the subject of Americas cancer, which is misinformation. For starters I actually went to college in America and not just on an exchange. I got a sports scholarship and finished my degree there. As part of a varsity team I travelled a lot more than most Americans. On one occasion I compared my list of states visited with my frat brothers - I won. I did engineering but a pack of those frat brothers were pre-law and they loved discussing the US Constitution with me because I had different views. I'm certain a few papers (or parts of them) got written because of things I said and questions I asked. I have lost count of the number of times since those days I have argued with other Australian's abut the US Constitution, and I never lose. I have claimed endlessly that I think the US Constitution is one of the greatest achievements in human history. But I have also pointed out that the Founding Fathers for all there efforts simply never predicted that people like Mitch McConnell would totally subvert a major function of the system - checks and balances. My frat brothers always argued that the checks & balances would protect the system, but even they missed what McConnell could or would do. So I don't say it lightly when I claim to be better informed on America than most (not all). I know I am better informed because my frat brothers made it so. As to the subject of misinformation it is NOT and American blight it infects every society. Rupert Murdoch was born bred and practiced his craft here before he took it global. Here watch this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s23q9DkCaVY) and you'll find out his people are so bad here even one of his kids walked out. And then to add insult we had the hysterical Tomi Lauren screeching back at us. Just the other day I saw this as it popped up in my recommendations. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T9ubqnHilc Firstly its amazing that its a conference only weeks before COVID arrived but more importantly to this discussion it highlights just how dangerous misinformation and taking things out of context can be. At around 18:30 Dr. Michael Osetrholm is talking about the Ebola outbreak and what happened when misinformation started an violence followed. Medical people who were only there to help were getting killed, by MISINFORMED mobs. I hate the fact that the left is now attacking Dr. Fauci. I like Jimmy Dore because he will say and discuss things that others wont. But the other day I saw him attack Dr. Fauci in a way that even some of the Trumpists would baulk at. His criticisms weren't unfounded but they were totally over the top and out of proportion. I watch/listen to Dr. Michael Osterholm a lot and have done so from the earliest days. BUT EVEN HE is stumped at the moment about how COVID is behaving. This is his latest -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdqsznCHv6o Take note of what he's saying around 5 minutes in, that COVID is NOT behaving like influenza. They are only just starting to work this out. So the criticism some of the LEFT have recently thrown at Dr. Fauci has some justification but NOT the vitriol. Our knowledge of COVID is evolving . Could things have been done better in many parts of the world, absolutely, how much difference it would have made is an answer I don't conclusively have. The one thing I do know for sure is that America does have friends in the world and we do want to see America get back on its feet. Things wont be going back to what they were because the rest of us have moved on, but we do want America moving forward with us. After COVID we still have Climate Change, Wealth Disparity and other things to deal with. Simply put we (the whole world) needs America in those fights with the rest of us. Take Care & Stay Safe.
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@billtmarchi4320 Dude I had a clown the other day say I was nuts for trying to explain the history of the Democrats. You're welcome to try but expect people to not believe you.
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