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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Libertarian Exposes His Deranged Ideology In Debate With Sam Seder" video.
I'm an engineer who did a degree in aerospace but works in automation and control systems. Part of Control Systems are the Safety Functions. We call this subject area "Functional Safety." In 2007 I did a course and achieved the 2nd highest rating available to any engineer in the field of Functional Safety. Its a qualification I no longer formally hold because IT HAS NO WORTH in the employment market. You see being the guy who interrupts with "is that safe" (or similar) and then insists on applying standards simply isn't welcome. It takes me only about 5-7 minutes to explain to anyone with a basic education and reasoning ability to show how the MCAS system in the Boeing Max-8 was ALWAYS going to end up driving a plane straight into the ground. Any reasonable engineer should have been screaming it was wrong and yet they were overruled by PURE SELFISHNESS. What this clown is demonstrating the same sort of selfishness that the management of Boeing showed and the management of the surfside apartments showed and what other narcissists have shown time and time again.
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@SuperCroc69 Good of you to point out Grenfell because THIS IS NOT AN AMERICAN PROBLEM. Here in Australia we had to evacuate 2 apartment blocks and neither was old (Opal Tower and Mascot Tower). This is going on EVERYWHERE. A few years back I saw a story on Spain where along its Mediterranean coat apartment blocks were going up at a staggering rate AND MANY WERE NEVER APPROVED let alone inspected. This is where this clown is so utterly ignorant of our current society. Remember Ronald Reagan's famous "government isn't the solution its the problem." Yeah well thanks to 40+ years of libertarian crap like that we now have government agencies that barely exist let alone exist well enough to be effective. I'm just blown away by the arrogance of them "finger pointing" about ineffective government when they were the ones who made it ineffective. Saddest of all they NEVER GET HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 🤷♂️🤷♀️
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@RilianSharp No - his kind believe THEY are entitled to everything THEY WANT but don't believe they have any responsibility to ensure or help or assist that others get the same entitlements. He's a pure self centered narcissist. If you have ever wondered what PURE narcissism looks and sounds like THIS IS IT.
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@RilianSharp Fark mate I am not going to go around in circles EITHER you get it or you don't and clearly YOU DON'T. 🤷♂️🤷♀️
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@SuperCroc69 Fun and games. Sorry for the longish reply but as a Sydney sider you and others should be asking the RIGHT QUESTIONS in the RIGHT PLACES. FYI - I'm an engineer with 30+ yrs in automation, robotics and control systems. I started with a degree in aerospace but we don't have a space program YET. I ended up in the mining sector as most of us now do and did about 15years there. Way back around 2010 the civils got all "concerned on a project I was on." It turned out that they had found out WHY a lot of new buildings fell down in the previous Chinese Earth Quake - sub-standard reinforcement bar (rebar). The Chinese had developed this idiotic "scam" called thinning. They would take standard rebar and stretch it SO FAR that it would NOT spring back. Just like if you take the spring out of a pen and pull on it to hard. They'd cut it back down to length and sell the excess for scrap. The new piece of rebar would look just like a perfectly good piece except it was just slightly thinner (hence the label - thinning). There's 2 monstrous issues. First its now NOT the same mass of steel providing strength. Second because it was stretched so far its LOST MOST of its TENSILE STRENGTH. That's super important in reinforced concrete. You see the concrete itself is brilliant at handling compressive load (as in when its squeezed) but has crap tensile strength (as in when its stretched. The job of rebar is to give the concrete structure tensile (stretching) strength. BUT if its Chinese Thinned rebar ITS GOT STUFF ALL TENSILE STRENGTH. I learned all about this stuff back around 2010. When I heard about it I asked our civs and they had (by that time) confirmed NOE of it was in the mine site works. I asked a mate of mine who does structural engineering about this stuff and he could barely believe anyone would be that stupid. JUMP A HEAD TO 2019 and after I saw the 60 minutes on Opal Tower my brain was WTF did they use Chinese rebar. I waited for the report and there is NO MENTION of rebar. Jump ahead a few months and at a bar-bi-q I meet this guy who says he's one of those guys who installs rebar. So I ask him about my concern with rebar and wonder if someone was using cheap Chinese rebar. YES, Australia does import cheap Chinese rebar and YES it was used throughout Opal Tower. How did he know that? Because he worked on it. How did he know the Chinese rebar was crap? "its light and flimsy" his words and I never prompted him for a description. The question isn't was Opal Tower made using sub-standard materials critical to its safety the question is HOW MANY OTHER BUILDINGS does Australia have with this crap in them. 🤷♂️🤷♀️
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There's an obvious narcissistic hypocrisy to them as well. In their view NOBODY is allowed to do anything that has consequences on their life and yet they demand to be allowed to do things that have consequences on the lives of other people. Charles Koch is a classic example of that mentality. In his Axios interview he claimed any politician he financially supported had to do what he wanted. The people who actually VOTED for those people had no right to ask the promises made get delivered.
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@johnkosowski3321 You have half made a reasonable point in the claim that greedy capitalists shouldn't risk there in investments. BUT THE REALITY is those peopel are also RISK TAKERS. Further they are people willing to risk other people's lives and wealth. This is the complete bullshit of libertarianism. They DEMAND others do not interfere with their lives yet also DEMAND the right to take risks that affect other people. You final remark about a failed regulatory system is true in that the system failed, but you are staggeringly IGNORANT that regulatory systems are failing because libertarians have been dismantling them for the last 40-50 years. CASE IN POINT - the FAA which instead of certifying the Boeing Max-8 let Boeing do it themselves and OUT OF GREED they delivered a substandard airplane that crashed twice. DON'T be so stupid and idiotic to claim something has failed and and then completely ignore the reason WHY it failed.
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You forgot to add "and I don't want to take ANY RESPONSIBILITY for anything."
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@ottz2506 That's actually a fair comment. Mark Blyth points out that populist movements like Trumpism are present in both left and right forms. If there is a difference I think that right wing populists and libertarian's are far more "in your face" about it or at least far more vocal. If there is one thing many on the left do not recognize is that when the EXTREME left go off they go truly berserk. Look at people like Robespierre, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and the Kim family and others from the EXTREME left.
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@ottz2506 That's almost a crazy definition because ALL people want some form of liberty and that has been the case for 1000s of years across 100s of cultures and political systems. What we really have are Anarchists on the FAR left and Libertarians on the FAR right who BOTH want to do whatever they like. THEY BOTH hate any and all forms of government rules or regulations. THEY BOTH scream "police state" whenever they get adjudicated on. THEY BOTH scream and complain when they are in trouble and demand others help them. To be honest I wished both the FAR left and FAR right would just STFU and let the rest of us breath for a few minutes without being screamed at. We have real genuine problems facing the entire planet and instead of dealing with any of them these selfish farkers just wont stop howling at us.
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@RilianSharp You're right HE never SPECIFICALLY said that. My comments more to the general nature of these people. He's basically advocating that its wrong to enforce people to contribute to the overall welfare of a society. But then these same people BENFIT from public services - roads, sanitation, police, fire,...etc. There are so many things WE ALL benefit from these days that most people take them for granted. This clown is advocating that its WRONG to force people to contribute. If he really believes that he should never flush a toilet again unless he installs his own personnel system to handle it. 🤷♂️🤷♀️
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@RilianSharp For reference on the absurdity go watch Monty Python's "Life of Brian" for "what have the Romans ever done for us"
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@RilianSharp Typical dismissive arrogance of a clown who wont listen, cant think and tries desperately to be relevant. Enjoy you libertarian delusions, but don't bother others with them.
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@Northstar1989 Good comment, although I would tend to say that libertarian socialists never called themselves that (or at least I never heard them call themselves that) but they did call themselves anarchists. I'd always thought anarchists were about causing mayhem and chaos until I met one first year of college. We were in mechanical engineering so he was a pretty logical sort of person. His main belief (if it could be called that) was that conforming to societies social rules and norms was idiotic. He sort of voiced some of the ideas this clown does EXCEPT for one major thing. He still believed in being socially responsible. Like for engineering we need regulations, standards,.... etc. or bad stuff happens and people get hurt. Lookin gat other comments that's where this guy has set people off. He wants ZERO responsibility for anything and everything.
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