Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Dr Fauci CRUSHES Rand Paul Conspiracy Confrontation" video.

  1. Yes I am. Here's a link to the article Sagaar was talking about he other day that was done by Nicholas Wade. I would not call it the exact opposite of what David is saying, but its clearly not pro-Fauci as David is. The article by Nicholas Wade is very well done, but its a longer article than most people will read. -> https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ In a nutshell: - There was "gain of function" research going on in Wuhan. - There was research there being funded by other nations including America. - One of the main people investigating Wuhan with the W.H.O. Peter Daszak has an obvious conflict of interest. As a result we DO NOT have a fully detailed account of what was going on in Wuhan. From that article and other professionals I have heard, I do NOT think it was a genetically engineered weapon. Most likely it was something that became modified or enhanced in the lab that got out into the general population. How it became modified or enhanced is something NO ONE has answered. Its possible it was from deliberate "gain of function" research. Its also possible it just came from an accidental mutation in a petri dish. We just don't know and one of the principal investigators has a serious conflict of interest. BUT Rand Paul is the worst kind of opportunistic maggot politician to be asking anything of such a serious subject and we wont get the answers we need with a clown like him running the show. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️
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  2. Here's a link to the article Sagaar was talking about he other day that was done by Nicholas Wade. I would not call it the exact opposite of what David is saying, but its clearly not pro-Fauci as David is. The article by Nicholas Wade is very well done, but its a longer article than most people will read. -> https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ In a nutshell: - There was "gain of function" research going on in Wuhan. - There was research there being funded by other nations including America. - One of the main people investigating Wuhan with the W.H.O. Peter Daszak has an obvious conflict of interest. As a result we DO NOT have a fully detailed account of what was going on in Wuhan. From that article and other professionals I have heard, I do NOT think it was a genetically engineered weapon. Most likely it was something that became modified or enhanced in the lab that got out into the general population. How it became modified or enhanced is something NO ONE has answered. Its possible it was from deliberate "gain of function" research. Its also possible it just came from an accidental mutation in a petri dish. We just don't know and one of the principal investigators has a serious conflict of interest. BUT Rand Paul is the worst kind of opportunistic maggot politician to be asking anything of such a serious subject and we wont get the answers we need with a clown like him running the show. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️
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  3.  @jan-willemvandijk3850  I'd simply say your assessment is utter bullshit. He and many others are putting the natural occurrence as less likely than a lab leak. There's actually nothing new in that the ex-head of the CDC Dr. Robert Redfield voiced this MONTHS AGO. Jimmy Dore pointed this out a few days ago. Not that I'd give Jimmy kudos on credibility at times. His attacks on Dr. Fauci are simply over the top, but he was dead right about 1 thing its all been politicized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG7Kxbfp5Oc&t=403s Now its almost impossible to discuss any answer without politics, no matter how hard anyone tries. My sort of a what if came from people attacking Bret Weinstein and his wife a few weeks back (David Pakman among them). They both have backgrounds in biology and pointed out the dismissal of a lab leak WAS NOT DISPROVEN and most of the discussion on that was political NOT scientific. David's dismissal of them was political NOT scientific. His whole monologue was about the Weinstein's re-harping a debunked conspiracy. David's got a clear bug with anyone linked to the Intellectual Dark Web. As I said repeatedly my initial view that it was natural was because several epidemiologists discounted the weapon conspiracy. Their claim was nobody has the technological skill to specifically engineer a targeted viral weapon, which some were claiming. What that answer did not exclude and it was not mentioned was the possibility of other research that might produce something that escaped. I think the most damning thing in this is that a person with a crystal clear conflict of interest, Peter Daszak was running the investigation into the Wuhan Institute. That's being called out more and more along with what "gain of function" research is actually going on and how it was being funded -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQlnnCPOxyk There could be absolutely innocent answers to all this BUT CREDIBLE ANSWERS are not on the table. Even when you look at what Congressman Mike Gallagher, claimed he's put the lab leak ahead of the wet market, but that DOES NOT EXCLUDE a natural origin from somewhere else. There's now evidence that a bunch of people who worked in a bat cave contracted something a few years back in southern China. This is a mess and until the people with vested interests are put to the side and a proper investigation happens no one will know.
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  4. Half the problem in this is that there are some very serious issues that need to be asked of Dr. Fauci on the subject of what was actually going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and what involvement other nations including America had. Sagaar Enjeti (at the Hill) raised this article the other day that was done by Nicholas Wade. Its very well done, but its a longer article than most people will read. -> https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ In a nutshell: - There was "gain of function" research going on in Wuhan. - There was research there being funded by other nations including America. - One of the main people investigating Wuhan with the W.H.O. Peter Daszak has an obvious conflict of interest. As a result we DO NOT have a fully detailed account of what was going on in Wuhan. From that article and other professionals I have heard, I do NOT think it was a genetically engineered weapon. Most likely it was something that became modified or enhanced in the lab that got out into the general population. How it became modified or enhanced is something NO ONE has answered. Its possible it was from deliberate "gain of function" research. Its also possible it just came from an accidental mutation in a petri dish. We just don't know and one of the principal investigators has a serious conflict of interest. BUT Rand Paul is the worst kind of opportunistic maggot politician to be asking anything of such a serious subject and we wont get the answers we need with a clown like him running the show. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️
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  5.  @douglasphillips5870  I started to re-evaluate after watching Brett Weinstein and his wife do an interview that they were panned for. It was claimed they were trying to re-introduce the conspiracy that China released a weapon. Which they were not. What they were saying was that the lab leak scenario had been dismissed without any real evidence to dismiss it. Early on the weapon hypothesis was clearly dismissed by several experts. They all agreed that nobody has the actually skill set to specifically engineer a targeted bio-weapon. There were some early claims it was a weapon and had more effect on Westerners than Asians (as in Chinese). Those experts explained why that wasn't real AND by extension others used that to dismiss the lab leak hypothesis and promote the wet market answer. What the Weinstein's put forward was that nobody had answered the questions about other lab leak scenarios, like an accident from the type of research that we should expect the Chinese to be doing considering they had previously experienced SARS and MERS. What we now know is that the Weinstein's were right. Nobody has yet answered the other possible lab leak scenarios. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️
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  6.  @jameytechsan7622  Your right we all knew it came from bats for some time. What NO ONE has put up on social media (that I have seen) is PROOF that the Chinese were researching these viruses or that America was involved in the Chinese research research. Its publicly available and was probably straight forward to find IF you know what to ask the search engines. That's actually one of the skills researchers develop over time - the right question to ask a search engine. They are great things but can either they drown you in leads or get you nothing. Plus most of the search engines (like google) are paid to list (& promote) specific things.
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  7.  @jameytechsan7622  Yeah, but its amazing how many people with absolutely no idea how to research a topic try and tell those of us who do - how to do it. Worse they even try and tell us they know how to do it when they clearly don't. Flat earthers being an example. As are people like Rand Paul, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity???????????
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  8. Half the problem in this is that there are some very serious issues that need to be asked of Dr. Fauci on the subject of what was actually going on at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and what involvement other nations including America had. Sagaar Enjeti (at the Hill) raised this article the other day that was done by Nicholas Wade. Its very well done, but its a longer article than most people will read. -> https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/ In a nutshell: - There was "gain of function" research going on in Wuhan. - There was research there being funded by other nations including America. - One of the main people investigating Wuhan with the W.H.O. Peter Daszak has an obvious conflict of interest. As a result we DO NOT have a fully detailed account of what was going on in Wuhan. From that article and other professionals I have heard, I do NOT think it was a genetically engineered weapon. Most likely it was something that became modified or enhanced in the lab that got out into the general population. How it became modified or enhanced is something NO ONE has answered. Its possible it was from deliberate "gain of function" research. Its also possible it just came from an accidental mutation in a petri dish. We just don't know and one of the principal investigators has a serious conflict of interest. BUT Rand Paul is the worst kind of opportunistic maggot politician to be asking anything of such a serious subject and we wont get the answers we need with a clown like him running the show. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️
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  9.  @shinystarmiestudios4179  The bio weapon conspiracy was utterly debunked by epidemiologists very early on. Their main claim was that NOBODY has the actual technology to engineer a sophisticated and targeted bio-weapon. Unfortunately that debunk was also extended to cover the lab leak hypothesis. A few weeks back the Weinstein's got a lot of blowback when they pointed out the lab leak hypothesis had NOT been properly & scientifically discounted. The initial dismissal of a weapon DID NOT exclude other possible research including "gain of function". We now know the W.H.O. investigation in China was compromised. Some people were not allowed into China but Peter Daszak who is a proponent of GoF research was not only allowed in he was one of the main investigators. As I just said to another the only thing we know for sure is "We don't know!" and that sucks. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️
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  10.  @thomasjr8318  Great public service and absolutely the best links anyone has put up. Have a look at just under the title blocks of both projects and you will see that Peter Daszak was the Contact PI/Project Leader for both. He's the guy named in the Wade Nichols article as one of the few people the Chinese let in to investigate the Wuhan Institute. Its not so much they are proof of GoF research but they are absolute proof of the conflict of interest. Just noticed you other link about the Chinese paper on SARS related coronaviruses. FARQ is about all I can say at this point. That's not simply damning that's explosive in the current context as that paper is from November 2017. I'm an engineer who's done postgrad and noticed your background. People shouldn't argue with trained researchers who know how to find and reference factual material.
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  11.  @jameytechsan7622  Go have a look at the comments by Thomasjr83 (above). He's put in a couple of links that are damning as in seriously damning. In case you can't find them here they are. The first 2 a report summaries from the NIH that absolutely link Peter Daszak (named in the Wade Nichols article) tot eh NIH funding of research in China. The third is a summary of a research paper that absolutely proves Chinese research into SARS related corona viruses in bats that was published November 2017, 2 years before COVID-19 struck the world. https://reporter.nih.gov/search/xQW6UJmWfUuOV01ntGvLwQ/project-details/9491676 https://reporter.nih.gov/search/xQW6UJmWfUuOV01ntGvLwQ/project-details/9819304 https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698
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  12.  @thomasjr8318  What it highlights is that we have NOT BEEN TOLD EVERYTHING and until there is a fully independent investigation we wont know. The problem is there are so many vested interests that simply wont ever happen - the Chinese, the W.H.O. Big Pharma 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️ Dr. Fauci could be telling 100% truth. The Nichols article doesn't say he is directly involved with or helped fund any "gain of function" research. I don't think he realizes that he's wide open to accusations and can't DISPROVE them. It doesn't matter if he's 100% innocent or 100% guilty he's stuffed. He can't prove or disprove anything. If you look at what he said today. Its all legitimate. if he didn't help try and get ready for the next "whatever" he'd be negligent. It would be like NOT doing research into computer hacking. If you don't do the hacking, you wont find the weaknesses and wont plug the gaps in the firewalls. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️ So I would expect that he (in his position) would fund research (or see it get funding) and possibly do it in places where these viruses come from. BUT (and this is the crux) what else was possibly going on in that lab? What did they know and when did they know it? I suspect as I said previously that something happened in a petri dish. They didn't realize what it was UNTIL after it got lose. By the time they realized what had happened they went into damage control. Now that several million are dead its full cover-up mode. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♀️
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