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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Trump supporters explain why they are dangerous and clueless" video.
Australian here and your description of Canadian Trump supporters is the same we have here and they are mostly Qanon supporters as well. The one thing David misses early on here is when he's talking about their views on the CIA, FBI, DOJ is that he forgets that all those agencies have shown in the past that they cannot be trusted. This is one of the major issues facing all Western democracies these days. Our governments in general cannot be trusted they keep doing stuff expecting nobody will find out and we always do. Right now Australia has a major scandal involving our Federal Government's hiring of PwC for tax consulting. Its raised questions of other government contracts at both state and federal level with all of the big consultancies - KPMG, McKinsey, EY, Boston,... etc. NOT ONE contract has even been put on hold let alone cancelled. Plus there are incredibly serious questions over the AUKUS submarine contracts. I am an engineer and none of the costs make sense and again it involves consultants and lobbyists and think tanks with NONE of them being trustworthy. If you go and look at some of the issues in Britain right now its similar stories. Plus I have heard stories out of Canada with similar themes. Italian British Economist Mariana Mazzucato just wrote a book about the consulting industry and in the talks she has given she keeps mentioning the same consultancies and their work around the world and the effect its having an effect on our governments. There are very serious issues with the credibility of our governments these days. Even when people don't understand the details they still know that things are not going well and that makes them incredibly easy to mislead. Sorry for the longish answer. FYI - I spent 4 months in Canada late 2017 early 2018 and despite the cold I loved the place.
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@brianmi40 Fun fact I like to point out. Almost every culture has a sport based around 2 teams smashing each other senseless as they fight over a piece of animal hide that has been inflated with said animals bladder (or stomach). These sports are generally played at the worst time of year to play an outdoor sport as if battling the elements is part of the challenge. The supporters of the teams who play these sports often consume vast quantities of whatever narcotic their culture consumes which helps feed the delusion that this year they'll win the championship despite the odds being less than 1:10 and usually closer to 1:20. When the reality of their team NOT being the champion finally sets in they blame anyone and everyone they can including, coaches, players managers and most often the referees. Despite the illogical behavior and agony of playing such games and the illogical behavior agony of supporting such teams people keep coming back the next year to suffer collective disappointment yet again. Some culture enjoy this collective suffering that they have MORE than 1 sport of this kind as well as summer sports to ruin that time of year with collective suffering as well. I am yet to hear any psychologist or evolutionary scientist explain this phenomena. And yes my teams mostly suck and I love them all but can't understand why.
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@i.ehrenfest349 No. Never heard of Desmond Morris, but a quick google says he wrote a book about the tribalism of soccer. If your referring to the tribal nature with which people follow sports and then comparing it to Trumpism then I'd agree there's similarities. The difference is sport isn't played with nuclear weapons. Sport also doesn't dictate the terms of a nations economy, education system, health care system or infrastructure. Trumpism (of whatever variety) does.
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@i.ehrenfest349 If the concept is comparing the tribalism of sports fans to the tribalism we see in populist politics then I get it. But I have never heard of that book. Have you seen any of Mark Blyth's interviews on Angrynomics. His co-author in that Ervc Lonergan is also very interested in the tribal nature of sports and how it compares to politics.
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@i.ehrenfest349 "Naked Ape" as a term sounds familiar but I've never heard of Desmond Morris before today.
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