Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Caller: Why is Foreign Influence in Elections "Bad?"" video.

Australian here and its so damn similar here as well. Only a few hours ago I got the video below in my recommendations list. For the Americans Neil Oliver is a well known Scottish historian. In the past he has done some brilliant documentary work. So this did interest me to here what he had to say and I got a hell of a shock. It started out as reasonable. For example he hits out at the idiocy the green energy transition can just be done overnight. I'm an engineer and it can't be done that fast. We can't build that many EVs because there's not enough Lithium for the batteries. Even with new mines and new processing plants and new battery factories IT WILL TAKE DECADES. I know SOME (not all) of the greenies are idiots with ridiculous expectations and claims that are fantasies. BUT THEN he started sliding into very Trumpian anti-vax territory. At that point I stopped to check out who GB News is. Its run by an ex-Murdoch Sky News Australia clown named Angelos Frangopoulos and mostly owned by people operating out of Dubai. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB_News Its the British equivalent of America's Newsmax. Here's the clip with Neil Oliver for anyone to check out. Watch how he slides into the Trumpian anti-vax nonsense after a couple of minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACETqHXq94
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@TheScotsalan Yeah it was something I saw only a few hours ago and the change between what I last saw him do as a historian & documentary maker to now is WTF in giant letters stuff. I think its kind of sad to see someone with his intellect throw it away as he has for this kind of rightwing hysterical nonsense.
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@mikesbruv have you seen any of the interview Your Bezmenov gave way back in 1984? He's totally wrong on how effective Soviet influence was at that time. We all know it was the Soviet system that collapsed on a few years later. But if you take what he said an apply it to the social media era then its terrifying, because social media is a perfect delivery system for psyop work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI He's a thought on Qanon. If you're the billionaires who fund massive amounts of political influence it's impossible to hide. There's no way to hide the think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and CATO Institute. There's no way to hide that the Federalist Society has picked most of SCOTUS. There's no way to hide that fact that there's 4 SCOTUS judges form Harvard, 4 from Yale and the other from Notre Dame is a known Federalist or that the judge who's been favoring Trump in Florida is also a known Federalist. So what can they do? Consider the saying "You can't see the forest for the trees!" What if you flip that into "You can't see particular trees because of the forest!" What do you have when you have millions of clowns all screaming and ranting "Look at this. What about that." Who cares what "this" or :that" is when anyone trying to have a reasonable public discussion about the influence of the billionaires sounds like a crazy person. And when I'm talking about billionaire influence, its not just America I'm talking about the entire Western Hemisphere. I can't say who started Qanon or why they did it. I don't even think anyone can call it an orchestrated psyop. But its been a giant distraction from discussing the billionaire influence in politics and other important subjects.
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@TheScotsalan Its another example of how the MAGA narrative is going around the world. this thread started with a comment on MAGA stuff in New Zealand. I'm in Australia and we have some of it here notably through Sky News Australia. Neil Oliver (a Scot) is doing it on GB News in Britain on a station run by the ex-head of Sky News Australia and Sky News Australia is owned by Rupert Murdoch. This MAGA garbage is infecting a lot more places than America.
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@jd0604 Look SHIT4BRAINS what Trump did and what Trump promoted were 2 different things. Instead of dong the job he was so busy SHITFESTING on Twitter anything he did get right he then trashed. Yeah he fast tracked the vaccines and then shat all over what he did.
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@TheScotsalan That's a really good summation of the sides. Adding into that lefties tend to care about the world while right wingers care about themselves. Where they match up is at the extremes. When the righties start going too far they eventually start scapegoating minorities to blame for their failures. On the Left it becomes scapegoating nonconformists to blame for their failures. In both cases they eventually start exterminating group they can. Its not particular to any version politics either. Once you get an entrenched establishment willing to go to any length to CONSERVE their position its gets out of control very quickly. The reason I use highlight word CONSERVE because even though a country like China is as ideologically LEFT as possible their government is fundamentally conservative. Where the Left and Right differ is the path they take to get to that point where they start scapegoating and the type of scapegoating. The right are simple to see when they go too far. They scapegoat along racial lines. The Left are harder to see because they scapegoat in all sorts of ways and on all sorts of issues. Mostly its some form or other of compliance to an unrealistic ideal. They make themselves obvious when ever they are pressed with a nuanced discussion point and just start yelling how the other person is a racist, bigot, fascist and/or psychopath. I'm actually an aerospace engineer and was trained in complex system analysis. So I come at the Left-Right political issue from a very outside perspective. I find it amazing that once you get to a certain point the radical left and radical right merge into mirrors of each other. They both end up in a place where ideology means nothing but a hash-tag. Its about gaining power and then holding onto it at any cost.
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@TheScotsalan When the whole Huawei stuff was going on here the killer blow came from the head of our spy agencies in an incredibly rare press conference and he did it by explaining Chinese corporate law. It was odd because he didn't make any claims of hacking or theft. He just explained that in China its the law that Chinese registered companies must had over any data the CCP ask for. The Western concept of privacy does not exist in China. He simply told us, it did not matter what claims Huawei made. They're a Chinese registered company and that means they must handover data to the CCP. When a CCP person walks in the door and says give me the data they had it over or go to jail. That was the end of the discussion here.
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@TheScotsalan You got it. Take away the flags, anthems and rhetoric, and politics is about 2 things 1) Taking power; and 2) Not letting go of power.
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@TheScotsalan No there are laws in China they are just so Alien to Western Law that we just don't get it. There's a Richard Gere film I saw years ago called "Red Corner" and it highlighted that the Chinese system is completely opposite to Western systems. If you are before a Chinese court for a crime then you are considered guilty and are only there to figure out the penalty. Their whole concept of justice is the opposite to ours.
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@TheScotsalan On Musk and a phone call. If he got one it wasn't from China it was from the Middle East. That's where his new partners are from. Musk's wealth is wrapped up in stocks and most of that is like crypto. Its hype not real value. if there was a phone call its was a very angry guy with a harsh middle eastern accent demanding to know how they were going to make money from this shitefest. When your new partners have the habit of chopping people into small pieces Elon might not be in a good place right now. So anything that might get money in the door like letting Trump & Kanye back on is pretty obvious.
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@TheScotsalan Yep and people like Elon just don't get it. I still say there is law, its just a matter of who it does and doesn't get applied to. Remember the CCP has purges every so often and at those moments if you're in the wrong part of the party the law is pretty harsh.
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