Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "THEY'RE DOING IT: Republicans to Try Stealing Election for Trump" video.

To all - here is a great quote quote for former VicePOTUS Henry Wallace. It was said 2 years before Trump was born but during the time when Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin were in power. I think it perfectly sums up Trump and his inner circle (the highlight is mine.) Henry A. Wallace, Vice President of the United States in the New York Times, April 9, 1944 “The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”
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ITS NOT TREASON Stop saying that - you sound just like the idiots who are backing Trump and his garbage. Look at Lin Wood claiming that of Mike Pence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States In Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, treason is specifically limited to levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. If you look at the dictionary definition yeah sure you can make that claim. I'm not a lawyer or law student BUT my understanding is that according to he constitution of the United States of America nothing that Trump or his clown brigade have done so far publicly would come close to treason. Sedition on the other hand is another thing. In almost any other country in the world they would already be in handcuffs facing court and being convicted. Just the lies about election fraud would be enough in some countries but the calls for martial law is a trip to jail in most places. Mike Flynn is in really serious trouble because he can be recalled to active duty and charged under the UCMJ for Sedition or Conduct Unbecoming as several people (of credibility) have pointed out. Lin Wood, Sidney Powell and others might well be facing disbarment for their frivolous law suits as several people (of credibility) have pointed out. Hypothetically and this is my question for all the lawyers and law professors - Isn't what these nutters in congress are doing is conspiring to deny people their 15th Amendment right to cast a vote and isn't that a crime they can be impeached for? Then there is the possibility that individual states might charge these people and that would mean Trump cannot pardon them. Simply drop the Treason line, its a waste of time when their are real charges that can be brought on these ass holes. Remember Elliot Ness got Al Capone on Tax Evasion. It wasn't murder as I am certain he would have liked, but Capone went to prison and died there. Best Wishes - 15 more days and Trump is gone.
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@greedo2660 I forget if it somebody else quoted it to me or provided a link to it because it was a few months ago now. It was a freakish quote then but right now its almost scary just how accurate it is. A more interesting question is who or what did he see back then that has simply been ignored or forgotten or both. We have Murdoch and he had Hurst, but I have no idea who he saw that was his era's Trump.
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@alexanderbrown4250 Finally a lawyer has spoken up. Do other lawyers call you the "bowling ball" because that's how bunt you are or the "sledge hammer" because that's how subtle you are. I checked the Wikipedia page on Felix Slater and I have 1 question. How did he have Osama Bin Laden's phone number or could get it, when the CIA, NSA, FBI and the rest of American services couldn't? Just think on that for a moment. One of the Presidents private advisors could actually get that number. That has to be one of the greatest WTFs I have ever heard of. Has anybody ever asked how he got it? I'm hopeful that somebody in one of the states will actually do something to Trump himself and just like with Capone I don't care what it is so long as he does time. More importantly I hop they go after the people around him with everything they can. Jared, Ivanka, Don Jr, Eric, Kayleigh McEnany, Barr, Pompeo and the rest and just smash them. Make it so that for anybody wanting to hide in the background and do shit in future will know they can't simply get away with shit. By chance do you watch Legal Eagle and/or Glenn Kirschner here on YT?
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@kaiza6467 YES - a5cent and others are right. It is being stupid claiming treason when its simply NOT TRUE. And yes Trump looked stupid, idiotic and clownish every time he made a ridiculous claim about treason that wasn't true. America has a very narrow definition of treason that's quite different to the dictionary definition. In Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, treason is specifically limited to levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States) SEDITION is another matter entirely. As is Tax Fraud, Campaign Finance Fraud and other legal issues. Don't forget all Elliot Ness got Capone on was tax evasion, but he put Capone in jail and he died there.
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@kaiza6467 Well said, and the first decent explanation of why people are throwing it around like confetti. I maintain the Elliot Ness strategy, because no matter what he goes down for it will never be enough for what he has done and is still doing. So let's just see him go down for something, lets just see those rat bag kids of his go with him and lets just see the rest of those enablers and liars also go down. If there is one reason WHY this needs to happen its so that there is a clear message that congress is not there for the 1% to use it as hammer to bash the shit out of everyone else.
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@alexanderbrown4250 Like any rational person I agree with all of that except the Flynn thing and that's because there are Military people calling for him the be reinstated to active duty so they can court martial him and that happens completely outside of politics. Neither The Chairman OTJC or head of the Army is an elected official and they are in a bind because if they don't uphold the UCMJ and throw Flynn under the Leavenworth Bus then they are opening the door for other senior military officers to also speak out like Flynn has. That's not a slippery slope that's a slippery cliff. FYI - I'm Australian and went to U. Illinois where I just found out Kelly Loeffler went, which helps nothing for the schools reputation. But while I was there my frat brothers took it upon themselves to hammer my brain with how awesome the US Constitution is. I did aerospace engineering so I'm not short on brain function and put up a struggle. So they had to explain WHY it was awesome and that meant explaining HOW it came about and why the founding fathers did what they did. I certainly don't have the training you and others have, but I have no doubt I am well above the average American. I get into arguments here form time to time and I NEVER lose. What really amazes me are the howling screaming people claiming to be patriots and upholding the constitution when they simply aren't either. Its incredulous that America is at this point because of all the things my frat brothers and others were unmovable on was that America could never be taken over by a dictator and yet that is basically what has happened. The reason I keep pointing to McConnell comes from my perspective which is seeing this at a distance and not being right there surrounded by this. Plus as an aerospace engineer I taught to analyze complex systems in ways other engineers aren't. We aren't taught to analyze by isolating a problem we are taught to work out what's causing the problem so that we DON'T do stupid things like the Boeing Max-8. So when I put that skill set and perspective to the American situation the one person who pops out is McConnell. In pursuing his agenda with Judges with any regard to other consequences he's done incredible damage. They all told me this could not happen because at its core the American system had an entire institution who had 1 purpose - to make sure all the others did their job. The House runs the country, the Executive makes the big national decisions and the Senate makes sur the "i"s are dotted and "t"s are crossed and all the check boxes are ticked. McConnell has made that dysfunctional and brought huge consequences as a result - most notably a delusional out of control POTUS. We are not going "back to normal" as David P just pointed out Trump finally got of his ass secured 100million doses of vaccine. For starters that will only vaccinate 50million and those doses wont be delivered until about July. So what are the other 280milllion Americans gonna do?
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ITS NOT TREASON and non one should be claiming it. Those who do just like the idiots who are backing Trump and his garbage. Look at Lin Wood claiming that of Mike Pence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States In Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, treason is specifically limited to levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. Sedition is another matter all together. Mike Flynn is in really serious trouble because he can be recalled to active duty and charged under the UCMJ for Sedition or Conduct Unbecoming as several people (of credibility) have pointed out. Lin Wood, Sidney Powell and others might well be facing disbarment for their frivolous law suits as several people (of credibility) have pointed out. Hypothetically and this is my question for all the lawyers and law professors - Isn't what these nutters in congress are doing is conspiring to deny people their 15th Amendment right to cast a vote and isn't that a crime they can be impeached for? Then there is the possibility that individual states might charge these people and that would mean Trump cannot pardon them. Simply drop the Treason line, its a waste of time when their are real charges that can be brought on these ass holes. Remember Elliot Ness got Al Capone on Tax Evasion. It wasn't murder as I am certain he would have liked, but Capone went to prison and died there. Best Wishes - 15 more days and Trump is gone.
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You are absolutely correct except fort the ending. You need to be clear about these things and I think you meat "and elections to replace those in the House." Senators get replaced by the states just as Alex Padilla has been chosen to replace Kamala Harris. You simply need to be clear on this stuff or you end up sounding like Trump and his supporters. Just let them scream, rant, rave and blow smoke out their ass while the rest of us stay clear headed. Best Wishes - 15 more days and Trump is gone.
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