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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "6abc Philadelphia" channel.
Aerospace Engineer (with a pilots license) here: I DISAGREE I watched a few videos from the channel about an abandoned twin engine Cessna 401 and the guy running the channel is just another attention seeking social media clown. Myself and others tried making helpful comments about that plane. NONE of the concerns raised by ANYONE were addressed. YOU SHOUDL KNOW - the Cessna 401 for its time (1966-1985) is a seriously complicated plane and NOT something amateurs should be touching at all. Other than being a twin engine its also a got a pressurised cabin meaning you can't just go and fly the thing. You have to be specially trained for it. Its engines are also turbocharged and turbo charging an aircraft engine is NOT the same thing as turbocharging a car. Its NOT done for power its done to keep the engine supplied with air equivalent to sea level so there's no power drop-off as it climbs and the C401 could go to almost 27,000 ft because of the turbo charging. So its a very complicated plane requiring mechanics who know what they are doing. People tried telling this clown these sorts of things and a lot more. I could tell by the details in the comments many of them were coming from professional people wit a lot more knowledge than I have AND HE LISTENED TO NOBODY.
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@flytoday I think that's why a lot of people with actual aircraft knowledge gave up on that channel. I got so tired of the BS that I finally told YT to stop recommending it.
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Aerospace Engineer (with a pilots license) here: I watched a few videos from the channel "Rebuild Rescue" about an abandoned twin engine Cessna 401 and the guy running the channel is just another attention seeking social media clown. Myself and others tried making helpful comments about that plane. NONE of the concerns raised by ANYONE were addressed. The Cessna 401 for its time (1966-1985) is a seriously complicated plane and NOT something amateurs should be touching at all. Other than being a twin engine its also a got a pressurised cabin meaning you can't just go and fly the thing. You have to be specially trained for it. Its engines are also turbocharged and turbo charging an aircraft engine is NOT the same thing as turbocharging a car. Its NOT done for power its done to keep the engine supplied with air equivalent to sea level so there's no power drop-off as it climbs and the C401 could go to almost 27,000 ft because of the turbo charging. So its a very complicated plane requiring mechanics who know what they are doing. People tried telling this clown these sorts of things and a lot more. I could tell by the details in the comments many of them were coming from professional people wit a lot more knowledge than I have AND HE LISTENED TO NOBODY.
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@cobra02411 Good comment all round. I see that channel as just another "hey look at this" channel that's highly misleading about what they are doing. I used to have this great bonus edition of the film "The Running Man" and it had this short film on reality TV. It turned out one of the people involved in making that film was also involved with the very first series of the TV show "Survivor" and he basically said the whole thing was scripted, but not scripted like a film where its down to the most minute detail. Its more like pro-wrestling where the outcome is determined and there's a guy ringside who's directing what's happening. Sadly, I lost that dvd so I can't reference it properly but its stuck with me how these people who produce these so called "reality shows" actually go about it. Everything is about audience engagement and in particular keeping people engaged whether they are 100% in support or 100% howling against. The audiences feeling don't matter just the fact they are staying engaged. And yeah there is no better proponent of that than Mr 45.
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@RetreadPhoto Yeah that's a problem across so many fields right now. People can watch a few YT videos and read a couple of Wikipedia pages and think they are an expert rather than being grateful they now understand something better. I'm a big fan of the game series Assassins Creed and in Black Flag there's a point at which the lead character says to another that he finally understood the creed wasn't knowledge in itself but the start of gaining knowledge. Yeah I know its kind of cheesy to quote from a video game but the concept is so true and I was told something similar in one of my first interviews after graduating. I was told my degree wasn't a license to work but a license to learn more. It took a long time for that to really sink in.
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@cobra02411 Here's my problem with them working on something like a C401 AND NOT having a proper licensed mechanic on hand to guide them. 1) It gives the impression anyone can do it as its just another piece of machinery which is NOT only a bad impression to give but might lead to others thinking they can do the same. 2) ITS ILLEGAL TO FLY SUCH A PLANE without it being signed off by a licensed mechanic. The fact they NEVER mention that is idiotic and they should have been saying it from the start. The fact that somebody is now dead is a tragedy BUT NOT unexpected.
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@cobra02411 On the technical side of that Cessna 401 the fact they were taking on such an incredibly complex aircraft was just stupid and their attitude about it sucked. You should know just how much attention to detail a plane like that needs. If they took on a straight forward project with single engine plane (and there's dozens of those available) then it would be so much better and several 1,000% safer for everyone involved.
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@RetreadPhoto I was once told by a Tiger Moth pilot that anyone could learn to fly a Tiger moth in a few days but it takes the rest of your life to master it.
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@johnjensen2217 I might have the model wrong but I was watching them from the start of getting that plane and it was mentioned several times it was a pressurised model. The C401 might have originally been conceived as non-pressurized but for F⋃CK SAKE DlCKHEAD it has a service ceiling of almost 27,000 ft and at that altitude either the cabin is pressurised or the passengers are on oxygen. ON THEIR ATTITUDE There were plenty of people commenting and trying to help. NONE WERE BEING LISTENED TO. So go be your little social media ignorant troll somewhere else.
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@johnjensen2217 Didn't watch anything on the Cougar. AS I SAID I STOPPED WATCHING THAT CHANNEL WHEN I REALISED THEY WERE ABOUT HYPE NOT SUBSTANCE.
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@johnjensen2217 Juan Browne on the Blancolirio channel has just posted on this incident. Juan is ex-Airforce and current commercial pilot who owns a twin. He goes over a lot of what Rebuild Rescue has done. I suggest you and a few other Rebuild fans go and watch. Also did you know the FAA stepped in at one point regarding the Cessna? I had already given up on the channel BEFORE that point.
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@rustyATV fair call. Its been a while but I thought they mentioned in a video that it was a pressurised version. It also might have been in a comment. Most of the comments I was involved with were about the engines. He had had no idea of what an air balancing turbo was. Just to get those engines started for a ground test he could have simply removed them and ignored the whole issue. More importantly I know from experience and advice form people with a lot more experience than I have if you leave Lycoming engines sit for any length of time the cam shafts corrode because they get no oil being in the very top of the engine. A number of years ago I looked at a Laser 200 and that was the advice I got from a previous owner and an aeronautical engineer who knew his stuff. In the end another pilot bought that plane and ended up doing a second full rebuild after NOT doing as I was advised. On the same airfield there was a Pitts S2A and it suffered the same fate. So I have seen others have very expensive repair bills that could have been avoided. Apparently in the the Lycoming documentation it says that if the engine isn't going to be used for a while then you drain it completely, flush it it out and fill it with a special inhibitor. AND EVEN THEN they still need to be regularly turned over to make sure all the internal surfaces stay protected.
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