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I understand you have some points here but I'm going to express my opinion from the OTHER side, if you know what I mean, and and know it will be uncomfortable and unconventional and very selfish, so get prepared, but why women have to put so much pressure on this and on another woman? I understand girl codes and not stealing your girlfriend's man buuuuuut what if it is someone from the outside? I think is less guilt and blame when at least you have no link with the main woman.
Of course, I think when you put your expectatives on a person you can't have, that causes a lot of harm to you but blaming women for the unhappiness on another woman seems to me unfair. I am not a feminist, sorry, I don't believe in that ideology, I believe in respect for others but I am also a human that has made mistakes and I would be very angry if a woman tells me I am the cause of her disgrace. That is perpetrating victim mentality and to be really honest, that woman has responsibility for choosing and staying with a man that has not enough being with her.
I take my responsibility on the subject, I am a "bad woman" for the things I've done but I refuse to be judged by the same society that pretends wants my best, you have agency as well to choose where you want to go and you're going to allow and this is something has nothing to do with the other woman.
I know a lot of you won't ever agree but this is my experience
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We need more people like you. We can't deny the fact that motherhood is a huge sacrifice for women, more than it does to men. Usually women are expected to be the primary caregivers alone because men are incompetent and never were raised to really have a family. I'm glad more women are speaking up, we need to really be clear on our choices. For me motherhood is a no, the stories in my family are sad, women always tired, unkept, angry and sad. Children are very special and need people that really want to be with them, being s mother requires vocation and willingness to learn and even heal the past trauma before the baby, same as the father. It takes a village to raise a child, and many women nowadays don't have a village, not even a competent husband. I hope this lady finds peace
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@vyse102 yes women are attracted to strong, masculine and man who are PROVIDERS. What do you have to bring to the table?
You just speak nonsense about how women are. I resist to believe a women is less valuable just because she ages, that's not what happens, I don't care about your opinion.
And I love that women are enjoying more her bodies, seriously, you complain about women having s x but your gender and male gaze only objectifies women for everything, you are only speaking about sleeping around and playing with females as toys. How can women have low body counts when man are only using them? Excuse me, but you need tk to accountable on what your gender and YOU as well does. Everything you speak is about f c k n g, wtf with you, we have more chances to lose if we don't choose a good partner and yes, all women want successful men, just like you shallow and empty for wanting "youth and fertility ". To each their own hypocrite
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@star3catcherSEQUEL why would my opinion be bad? You're just putting your patriarchy in me because let's be honest, when men cheat and they openly are in relationships with married women, are roasted like you all women are implying?
I don't wanna get feminist because I'm not like that, but sounds like you're just being more critical of women.
I understand I've done things other women would look at me with bad eyes, just like you're implying. I know why I did it and the context of my situation and no way I feel less than a person, I know my mistakes and I speak from my perspective and experience.
You should put the example of your words because i believe there is so much hate and anger between women than what it happens to men.
And seriously, all of you are still putting the responsibility on the other person when is not, if I date your boyfriend I may be bad, evil and whatever but if you as a woman are still blaming me even for your decisions, because your man is a cheater regardless of who is in front., the you're not contributing to anything to this society.
I really don't believe infidelity is ever going to finish and I hope you speak the same to yourself if ever happens to you, or a friend or a daughter, just like I told to other ladies here. Everyone seems a Saint, maybe you're not a cheater but of course you have other flaws that make you everything but decency.
Keep your men save ladies, because they may find someone like me ;)
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It's related to age gaps relationships. I see it allows both parties to have freedom to do whatever they want to do it. I've seen there's lots of married man out there, so I am curious on how man have a sense of entitlement to cheat on their partners, is much more acceptable between them than between woman.
On the other hand, I think that man always pay, indirectly or directly, in this case is much more practical, yes is a form of sex work, where the lady has benefits, financially speaking, she has a relationship with a man with experience that can support her (that's why is a daddy 🤣)and still has It's freedom without the duties of a wife and he is physically satisfied and has this sense of power of having a younger person on his side, without leaving his conventional life. Each couple has It's own agreements, some people make it strictly casual, others want a mistress, but all of them want to experience of an age gap connection
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@bennyblanco5555 what is true? What is reality? Don't speak nonsense. Yes, some women regret their career choices, so what?, a man won't save us either, it's about us, about giving us a decent life and help our families. Dr. Peterson never implies how women should be, just what he has observed, it's the other guy and all of you who make stupid comments.
How can women have better life and enjoy their decisions is a discussion that belongs to women only, you as men can only keep with the same repetitive bs of:youth is only what matters, we should go back to the 50s, man can spread themselves and being a s s h l s but women need to be virgins, etc. That's trash
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@ethiopiazoldyk4667 well, I think all human beings are complex, because you may have different political ideas, music you like, art, personality, body type, religion and spirituality, your own traumas, your own past, your secrets.
I am a lawyer but I refuse to be categorized simply on that label of someone serious and squared, I am spiritual, i have hobbies that have nothing to do with law, I love going out on parties, etc
All those aspects make you multidimensional, there are more layers in you from what eyes can see. But maybe some people is more practical and open and maybe don't have many layers, which is good if they feel good at it 😉 That's my opinion
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@explosivebest3703 of course, encouraging woman to use guys just for meals is sad, no of course not. I talk when you're interested in a man. You know, sometimes also guys use us as sex toys and we feel very empty because we trust. So the same can happen to you when you invite a woman to dinner or whatever.
I thought you were older, because I'm also young, I'm 24 and I haven't date a guy of my age some time ago. I would recommend you think deeply what kind of life you want to have, because you may be so young to be in a serious relationship, also, what kind of woman you want? Not the one you can have. I've heard from my dad and other man that they would never encourage their sons to marry before 35 and at this point if I want to get marry I would be very interested in a guy of that age and beyond. Focus on your goals, on your coins before you want to take the obligation of a family, even if she helps you to pay, having a family is tough thing. Thanks for the interest 😊 edit: i hope I don't offend anyone
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@numinuminixstix dear Erica read my comments Because I feel that I've answer that same thing over and over again. Baby I'm not trying to pretend that I want an "equal" relationship, that doesn't exist, man and woman have never been the same and less likely about romance. I like a man treat me as a lady, so I don't have to prove anything to any man or paying him to making him see my worth and not interested in trying to change it. I am the woman and expect to be treated as that. Of course there's details in the situation, of course I want to work with my person, but we're talking about the first stages of a connection, right?. Again, my preference, I get there's feminist ladies who hate this things, I have friends like that and I know the complete discourse, so you do you lady, very respectable
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Totally true! I don't know why others take this as an insult. All around the world this is the true, all the models are white or fair. They give the exact same face all around the world, they want the white face. And I know that white people is beautiful for their features and skin, but that's historical, I don't know why. I hate it, and I can't believe how people support strongly the idea of "white is the best , deal with it" I mean, no. I think beauty is more about symmetry and not color. Although not everyone see it like that. Sad but true. I prefer mixed beauty, black, Asian, whatever! Not only blondies
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Maybe my comment it's irrelevant, but let me answer you. I think what usually happens it's that women don't want to feel they are just disposable objects for sex (even if they are for you), or even if you're in a not committed relationship or friends with benefits thing. You still want to feel desirable and feeling lust for the person it's not just about your cock penetrating you, sometimes lust it's created with the touch, your voice, I don't know, it can be many things. Maybe sounds hella boring, but that's my perspective at this moment.
I also think sex it's very important in a relationship, but some woman have deep struggles with their bodies, confidence or religion plays a huge role in women being unable to enjoy themselves, so some of them could be unable or maybe they'll have issues to have sex with their partners and it's something they have to fix by themselves.
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@alex47_in_downtown18 of course not, that is the for teenage gis. Women want security, loyalty, respect, obviously love. A strategic, smart woman will want a man with those qualities and is well known that physical attraction doesn't matter at all!!!
This is a pathetic way to not see the reality, I don't if you feel attractive or what, but women know that is not a sign of succes in life, we're not as men dominated by our genitals, get it, attractiveness can help you to be picked by 10 minutes and then you're left, if you ain got anything, you don't worth "the squeeze"
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It's great* that you have that common sense. Bringing a baby is a life changing path for both sexes. Women suffer much more, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to make your feelings less, but at least men don't give birth.
Sexual responsibility is real, I share the same thought of you as a woman. I don't want to bring children if I haven't met the man and myself feeling I'm in the right space to provide financially, mentally, emotionally and physically, the same as my partner.
I don't know, I don't want to be enslaved to a life I don't know I will enjoy specially with the wrong partner.
Autonomous moms (or single mothers as you say) exist for a reason.
Also, climate change. It's an emergency topic and our world will be destroyed if we don't do something real in less than 50 years. Why would I bring a child to suffer?
I think in the generations of the future, what kind of world are we leaving to the children of today?
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@beasttitanofficial3768 well girl I understand that, I think in some way, society is unfair towards woman, have you notice the double standards when in comes to man and woman? Of course I notice that, but at this point of time, yes you're able to decide, do you live in first world country? I don't, I'm aware about misogyny. But since my perspective, gold diggers are smarter (not all of them) because they take advantage of the rules that were made for woman and how they use femeninity for getting power. A good example in real life is Cleopatra, she was a woman who used her femenine charms to get power, read her bio, it's fascinating.
Yes society is unfair but in this life you have 2 options, complaining about the rules of the system or playing to your favour with the rules. What do you choose?
If you hate the idea of femeninity, female beauty of whatever it's ok. There's no label of how woman should be, you have power to choose, because you're an actor in this complex human system.
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@numinuminixstix I'm saying meals Because that's what we're talking about and what happens in first dates, but overall a person that doesn't ask me to split in every single thing we do, he pays all those things. No, I don't split, if he's a man I'm interested romantically, I never pay, what's the point if I do? If it's just a friend then of course I do. And I think it's pointless discussing with you, since you're so good splitting, not me, that's allowing man to be lazy, if that's what you want it's up to you.
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@JBU27 I'm not expecting you to "forgive me"? I know what I did but also my circumstances and there different types of lovers, I never harassed or insulted the other women, besides being with the dude (I know sound horrible but it is what it is), but I think this is exactly what the video is talking about, you're so mad at me, girl, I'm not perfect and I'm selfish and I know it but when men are cheating, men between themselves don't care about it and between women is like sacrilege or so, you put so heavily the burden and accountability of ither person in a woman, I find it interesting and sad.
I know is morally wrong but I did anyway. I just gave my perspective and seriously nobody is inmune to this bullshit and I think I have a lot of things to say but if I'm cool with myself I don't need to proof anything to you all.
Just make sure that if you want to be "good" is because you truly believe it, not because you expect world treat you in the same way.
Again, I'm not proud but I understand the anger and frustration from you but my story goes beyond that, i don't expect to be forgiven and I don't think you have to and I personally live ok with it, you have your own opinion and I have mine and you don't have any right to discard it. Deal with it
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@star3catcherSEQUEL because there's no morally good explanation for what I does. I just gave my perspective and my experience in the subject, truth is, you don't know anything about me.
But seriously all you judge me but what about the people that allows mistresses and other women to enter their life?
I live ok in my contradiction, even if it sounds stupid, which you don't seem seem understand, you sound like I killed a person, wow, you impress me because I state again, you also can make the same or worse mistakes but everybody here want to speak like if you had any moral authority, you don't.
And is very stupid adding clinical labels to people on internet, psychopaths, narcissists, sociopaths are strange cases and I don't have those, for your disgrace
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@JBU27 I see your points. I think this is an interesting debate because what I can express and say that The Take is trying to tell (and what I've tried repeatedly to write), is about the social burden that specially "the other woman " experiences and gets mostly from other women, which the cheater and the family doesn't, not at the Level of the woman and where my discomfort is.
Of course is uncomfortable to accept that I am participating in someone else's pain but perceiving thay you're placing the wife as a victim when sometimes this women know that their partners are cheating on them and just keep silence (yes this happens and its been a situation that I saw and lived) seems for me unfair that you put at least part of responsibility of how the main person feels on the other woman, because we all have agency and accountability for our actions and ladies, not all "the other women" are people full of evil, I think depends on each situation, not all wives are victims and not all cheaters are just "narcissists".
I know many of you already have some hate for me, but not only the person that suffers is the wife, the other woman also does and I think what she feels and perceives is as valuable but invisible for you all. It's ok if you don't want to perceive it for me, but in other situations it could be a good exercise for you to try it.
So, finally, I think this discussion is endless and some people have very fixated opinions, I just wanted to add how I see it and my experience.
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In that case, diana was living in a gold's cage but all women have agency, if you're single you need to spot these red flags, because men always tell us in some way or other how they actually feel about loyalty, exclusivity, monogamy, etc, but sometimes women don't want to acknowledge the facts. For example: in first dates guys have told me they don't believe in monogamy, they wanted to experienced because there are so many beautiful women, and the list goes on.
That's why I feel in unfair for blaming the other women, yes, is not feminist to participate in an affair because you're feeding a monster. But you or anyone has always the power to stop it. Don't conform to that, that's how you start, if other women do it or not, let those be their problems but not yours.
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Not a bad message. Completely agree. Atrracting love or suitors is a matter of putting yourself out there and engaging with people. I agree on that. Agree on the fact that if you like men it's good to learn the game, learn about human psychology. Today many ladies are so stuck in "being themselves". I learnt about seduction and constantly do it.
I agree with almost everything the doctor said. Just a reminder, average in women is beautiful, and we won't allow dudes to determine our worth. Many men act disinterested and won't find worthy a woman, but it has nothing to do with her, how a man treats you is a reflection of HIMSELF.
And by me seeking my own happiness, means holding ny standards and see what men are aligned with that. Because some of those clichés are true. I will put the effort but he needs to prove he wants it. But if he starts being inconsistent, and just a player, then, i don't need to entertain that. If he wanted, he would do it
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Exactly, for casual sex of course I would like to be with someone I find myself attracted and height even it's nice, it'snot a deal breaker for me. I mean, if it's only for the moment, damn I want to enjoy it really good with a guy I genuinely like but for something serious attractiveness doesn't matter at all or even height. I care about his reputation, his past on cheating, what kind of women does he like, am i his type, is he a hard worker, is he mentally stable, etc. That's what being hypergamous is, being clever to find the best mate for you (not in terms of physical attributes but of course resources and your ability to work hard and be determined are a must)
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