Comments by "nunya" (@nunya54) on ""They're Going to Win" - Will Muslims Run America in 30 Years?" video.

  1. 18
  2.  @SadMonkeyofficial  Why would Islam not still hold the beliefs it had before? If it's a religion from God and the last religion, perfected until the end of time, it should still be practiced the same. A religion from God means it is appropriate for all time and into the future because of course, God knows the future and legislates accordingly. Christianity not believing that is because it doesn't actually follow the teachings and practices of Jesus, at least not after the third century. Christians before that time DID believe in that as they were Torah-practicing Jews, like Jesus. Jesus believed in and followed Mosaic law which called for killing people for particular crimes. The Bible says to kill those who call to another religion even if they be your own family members. If Jesus is God and that is from God, that is what Jesus said. You mean Christians today don't spread or believing in killing. Historically, Christians did believe in and use violence with each other, fighting each other bloodily even disagreeing on who Jesus was (why didn't they know, where was the proof?), they spread their religion through violent and coercive means, even almost killing the Jews out of existence due to the hostility of the gospel writers. If Jesus taught non-violence and turning the other cheek, that message was surely lost rather quickly after him. Makes more sense he didn't and seeing as how turning the other cheek is something Matthew said, we can't verify that's true. Matthew was known to invent stories about Jesus. It was only after Christianity was spread around the world through edicts, with threats of violence and death, through coercion, slavery, wars, etc, that they adopted the doctrines of peace, loving your neighbor, turning the other cheek which in reality was really doing nothing at all as they abandoned the religion being Christian in name only with no real practice.
    9
  3. 2
  4. 2
  5. 2
  6. 2
  7. 2
  8. 2
  9. 1
  10. 1
  11. 1
  12. 1
  13. 1
  14. 1
  15. 1
  16. 1
  17. 1
  18. 1
  19. 1
  20. 1
  21. 1
  22. 1
  23. 1
  24. 1
  25. 1
  26. 1
  27. 1
  28. 1
  29. 1
  30. 1
  31. 1
  32. 1
  33. 1
  34. 1
  35. 1
  36. 1
  37. 1
  38. 1
  39. 1
  40. 1
  41. 1
  42. 1
  43. 1
  44. 1
  45. 1
  46. 1
  47. 1
  48. 1
  49. 1
  50. 1
  51. 1
  52. 1
  53. 1
  54. 1
  55. 1
  56. 1
  57. 1
  58. 1
  59. 1
  60. 1
  61. 1
  62. 1
  63. That really depends on what you consider better.  @pedrokaco  If you mean for worldly gain, the so-called freedom to do as you like including many forms of openly allowed and accepted degenerate behavior, for one who wishes to do those things and be around those things, then yes, the Western countries are better. The trade off as well for those countries is less safety, security and peace. They tend to have more violence, less strict laws, more open forms of rebellion and protesting, more guns, more rights (like the right to be naked in some places in public even family places), etc. So depends on what ya find better. On the other hand, Islamic societies, like most tight societies, has more law, order, safety, security and peace. Where you don't have all the freedoms (like to carry guns, have open nudity, open sexual behavior, etc) to do everything you like, you trade for being more safe generally. I don't know about few better Islamic countries but when most people mean when they speak of those are very SMALL Gulf countries compared to other Western countries. Those countries are often set up different than Western countries as far as the ease of going and often in some cases, if we use the example of education, might have less options or far more expensive options than those Western countries do (for example, it is very easy to go to college in the US, easy to get funding, easier to get lower wage or certain kinds of jobs, easier to get a license, easier to start over at any stage of life, etc). So some might think they are better but Islamic legislation and a Muslim who knows their religion and wants to adhere to it would not consider MOST of those Western countries better. There are many Muslims and non-Muslim immigrants as well who seek out a better life in those countries only to trade that later for their children abandoning their culture to have illicit sexual relationships, end up single parents, do Only Fans, become drug dealers, etc. Not that they can't do some of those things in their own countries but the chances of it happening in Western countries compared to their own is FAR higher. So better is DEFEINITELY subjective. Also considering the Muslim focus should be on the afterlife; not this life. So a life of better if it is at the risk of losing their religion isn't a good trade. Short term pleasure vs long-term pain.
    1
  64. Most people don't actually leave their entire life, especially if they are Arab and Muslim (keeping ties with their family is very important and religiously required if they are Muslim). Also, many people who immigrate are often NOT starting from scratch. They are often the more privileged or of some privilege from the places they come. And your point still goes back to the idea of PERCEPTION as you said. Perception does not make reality though. Better is subjective. Better how? Better financially? Better spiritually? Better religiously? Better worldly and according to who?.  @pedrokaco  The West is not better religiously or morally which is the standard those who believe in God and submit to Him should have. Most Western countries then, based on that, are bot better than most Muslim countries (they're not even ACTUALLY better socially in many aspects). That doesn't mean some people, including Muslims, won't see or think it's better though and that is often due to ignorance, a lack of religious knowledge and social awareness or personal desires. According to Islamic teachings though, the West, non-Muslim countries are NOT better and that is according to the standard of God (who does not view this live as worth much). Nonetheless, this whole idea of the West being better does not negate Islam being true or prove it's not true. It's just an often-repeated claim (often by people who really don't know much about Muslim countries and usually have never actually been) and is just a subjective opinion. Anyone can believe whatever they like about which countries are better or not but their beliefs are not fact and their beliefs also don't disprove Islam being the only religion of God and their societies being better (according to God's standard)
    1
  65. 1
  66. 1
  67. 1
  68. 1
  69. 1
  70. 1
  71. 1
  72. 1
  73. 1
  74. 1
  75. 1
  76. 1
  77. 1
  78. 1
  79. 1
  80. 1
  81. 1
  82. 1
  83. 1
  84. 1
  85. 1
  86. 1
  87. 1
  88. 1
  89. 1
  90. 1
  91. 1
  92. 1
  93. 1
  94. 1
  95. 1
  96. 1
  97. 1
  98. 1
  99. 1
  100. 1
  101. 1
  102. 1
  103. 1
  104. 1
  105. 1
  106. 1
  107. 1
  108. 1
  109. 1
  110. 1
  111. 1
  112. 1
  113. 1
  114. 1
  115. 1
  116. 1
  117. 1
  118. 1
  119. 1
  120. 1
  121. 1
  122. 1
  123. 1
  124. There are not many gods telling people so many different things. There's one God. There are so many different MEN who are telling their versions of God that are contradictory and not from God. God sent prophets and messengers all throughout time to different people around the world; they all had the same message to worship God alone @deepsareen1  All the contradictions, like Judaism which is the religion created by Jews based on nationalism, race and land was a departure from that message of Moses to worship God alone. The Bible itself says the hands the Torah came through would change the scripture. The Rabbis confirm this and they do not know who wrote it; the one we have came a thousand years after Moses and no one believes a religion can be from God that is based on how you were born which you have no control over (race). Christianity as well, was invented by men, based on the ideas of Paul after Jesus who contradicted Jesus in many ways. His ideas were later adopted by Constantien and the Church and then imposed upon people and was not like the religion of Jesus or the Christians who followed him for the first three centuries. If we take up all the writings of unknown men, which much of the Bible is written by or untrustworthy people like Paul, who was established by Jewish academics to have been a liar, and we strip back to the understanding of Jesus during his time, by James and those closest to him, we find the same Jesus that is in Islam, for example, and the same message to worship God alone. If we do the same for Moses and the Israelite prophets before them, we find the same message. It is only when humans tried to change these religions and scriptures that we start to get contradictory and strange ideas. Study Islam and ask God to guide you. It has the answers and everything will make sense. Islam teaches there is only one God and only one religion that God has revealed to all his prophets from Adam (Abraham, Moses, Noah, Jacob, Jesus, etc) ending with Muhammad all sent to teach people or turn he people back to worshipping God alone, the purpose of our creation.
    1
  125. 1
  126. 1
  127. 1
  128. 1
  129. 1
  130. 1
  131. 1
  132. 1
  133. 1
  134. 1
  135. 1
  136. 1
  137. 1
  138. 1
  139. 1
  140. 1
  141. 1
  142. 1
  143. 1
  144. 1
  145. 1
  146. 1
  147. 1
  148. 1
  149. Firstly, there's no such thing as sex slaves in Islam but as a Christian why would you take issue with that? In The Torah, God (is that Jesus?) said men could take women forcibly without consent. That wasn't allowed in Islam. Consent was always required for all those relationships. Surely you should have more problem with humiliating women without their consent by having sex with them than slaves who entered into consensual relationships? Wouldn't that make Jesus, who you believe is God, right, the promoter of that? Also, he sent laws to Moses if he's God that made him a warlord fighting wars as a leader just like Muhammad did and with the power to inflict capital punishment just like Muhammad as the leader of his nation. What about the other king or leader prophets in the Bible? They fought wars too and God commanded them. So God/Jesus is okay with warlords, right? Or do you reject and criticize the prophets God sent before he made himself into a baby to come to the world? Of course, there are stories of lusting sinners in the Bible that for some reason God sent as examples and guides to others but I can see why you'd criticize and reject that. It's illogical. It also from scripture that came through evil and wicked Israelites who, of course you know from reading the Bible brought shame on their faces, provoked God to anger, always went against what God told them to do, tried to kill their prophets including Jesus (how can anyone kill God?) AND changed scripture. Yet you take their scripture as . . . the word of God? Your criticisms are quite strange as they undermine their own religion. Have you read the Bible? I don't think you want to undermine your own religion in attempting to criticize Muhammad and Islam especially since you'd have to consider if Jesus is God he created Muhammad and for some reason sent him with a more logical religion, with nothing in it proven false, with a book that was preserved and that no one can find any contradiction in while we can find many in the book that is supposed to be from him but was written by not a single person who ever met him (nor claimed to follow him). And also he predicted many future events but somehow forgot to warn about a greater prophet than any other in the Bible who would come and overtake his own religion and single-handedly teach billions of people about Jesus yet no mention in the Bible? It prophecies far less than that. Jesuc created the whole universe but didn't know the Hour? He offered up fervent cries and prayers to be saved from . . . himself? He was God walked through the streets naked, tortured to death, left to be eaten by vultures and ultimately disintegrated? And not a single person can deliver a verse from the book that is supposed to be from as authentic? He also hasn't allowed a single Christian or person otherwise to prove Muhammad was a fraud in over 1400 years. I did not say there was anything wrong with conquering people. There is nothing wrong with that especially since that was better for Jews and Christians to live under Islamic law than any other. Their own leaders were corrupted or under Christians, the Jews would have never survived. I said those verses were historic. Meaning not general law in Islam though that says to ago around and kill Christians and Jews which is what some people misinterpret or rather assert, dishonestly instead @aldonemra2386  You can't go around killing anyone under Islamic law. What you're speaking about is what the ruler of the nation, the ruler of the army was told to do when someone was trying to attack and kill him. But again, why as a Christian would you have an issue with that? The Bible says to kill ANYONE who calls you to another religion. Islam doesn't say that which is why Christians and Jews came to Muslim countries for safe refuge. Both from Christians! lol
    1
  150. 1
  151. 1
  152. 1
  153. 1
  154. 1
  155. 1
  156. 1
  157. 1
  158. 1
  159. 1
  160. 1
  161. 1
  162. 1
  163. 1
  164. 1
  165. 1
  166. 1
  167. 1
  168. 1
  169. 1
  170. 1
  171. 1
  172. 1
  173. 1
  174. 1
  175. 1
  176. 1
  177. 1
  178. 1
  179. 1
  180. 1
  181. 1
  182. 1
  183. 1
  184. 1
  185. 1
  186.  @Strawberrymerit  Based on what you claim to have a problem with, you'd also have a problem with in the Bible and in the laws Jesus followed all his life and supported. You're going to have to actually read the Bible to make such claims as what you say about the Quran and Islam and Muhammad, you're not going to find first with the prophets of the Bible who Christians say is from God who Christians say is Jesus. Do you say Jesus is God? If so, did he not send the laws to Moses that was full or punishments to murder people for the crimes they committed? Jesus followed those laws all his life. As an adult he said he came to fulfil and uphold those laws and those laws have more murder in them than Muhammad's laws, Paul criticizing them as "a ministry of death". What you have read in the Quran, which sounds like you actually haven't, are verses of God telling the Muslims to kill the disbelievers who are fighting THEM and before and after that alternatives to take IF those disbelievers do not fight them. If you have a problem with that, then you have a problem with Moses or David or the other king and leader prophets who fought and killed disbelievers too. And you should have even more of a problem when God, who you are saying is Jesus(?) told men to kill even the women, children and babies of their enemies. How does that ruling not promote murder, those rulings still being used by some Rabbis to justify those actions still today? That's in the Torah who you say is from God, who is Jesus, right? The Bibe is the book that says to kill anyone that calls to another religion, not the Quran which is why both Jews AND Christians sought refuge in Muslim countries not fearing the murder and oppression often that met them at the hands of Christians! Even the Jews following the same laws Jesus followed at that time said Islamic law was less harsh than Mosaic law (Islamic law did not allow women, children, the elderly or non-combatants to be killed in war like the Bible did; they also were not allowed to compel or force anyone to become Muslim like the Christians tried to force the Jews to become with threats of death, even crucifying them. There's no killing disobedient children in the Quran; that's in the Bible. No burning unchaste daughters; that's in the Bible. Who are you saying that is from? God? Jesus? No, Islam does not promote pedophilia and you would be killed for doing so under Islamic law. What you seem to be confusing or rather copying from other people, is using subjective ages of today to so what a child is rather than what God says a child is which ends at puberty. Do you even know the age Jesus became an adult under the yoke of the law and when most girls during his time, before and after got married and Jesus did not speak against it? When King David married Abishag? You'd be calling the prophets of God, who you are saying the prophets of Jesus if he's God, were pedophiles too and Jesus was a pedophile supporter. And in the Bible, God, gave some men more than one wife. So what would your issue be with polygamy? Jesus, nor God, which are not the same, never said polygamy was not allowed. How many men in the Bible had multiple wives and God said it was wrong? He never did. It was only Christians after Jesus who said that and only some, as others always practiced polygamy and some churches said they need to revisit it now that they see the wisdom in it, they are dying out, and it was neve disallowed in scripture. You have many problems with Jesus, the Bible and Christianity it seems as well, if you have a problem with Islam but you have no place to have any problem with what God says, allows and legislates. You either accept it and submit to it or not. It is on you to follow the evidence to know what God has said and what his religion is and what it isn't. Perhaps you can start by actually reading the Bible and studying it for no one that does can possibly believe it's from God, the word of God (it's literally not) or could possibly be where the religion of God or Jesus comes from. Learn for yourself, think, ask God for guidance and don't just repeat what you hear without verifying it's correct and true. That's how we have many people today believing they are following Jesus and the religion of God when they're really pleasing Satan instead (worshipping a man instead of God).
    1
  187. 1
  188. 1
  189. 1
  190. 1
  191. 1
  192. 1
  193. 1
  194. 1
  195. 1
  196. 1
  197. 1
  198. 1
  199. 1
  200. 1
  201. 1
  202. 1
  203. 1
  204. 1
  205. 1
  206. 1
  207. 1
  208. 1
  209. 1
  210. 1
  211. 1
  212. 1
  213. 1
  214. 1
  215. 1