Comments by "Cartoon Mo!" (@cartoonmo5976) on "Quoting The Gospels To Defend The Quran." video.

The Iceman cold snap qiraat clap can be felt throughout Mecca like tremors, even the kaaba shakes! 😂
18
@AlonzoHarris235 Let's also consider the Hadith where your Lah has a shape, comes in another shape, then another shape but never in Lah's original shape, So your Lah has 3 shapes, the one that's Lah's is meant be be identical to Dajjal bar the number of sighted eyes, so we can know what your Lah is physically based on the Dajjal, Is the Dajjal not humanoid/anthropomorphic!?! Adam is supposedly created in Lah's image, where are our second right hands!?!
3
@FormerKafir You say the quran claims Jesus not to be God, I challenge you, show me one single verse where it mentions Jesus or God!
2
@AlonzoHarris235 Oh, and thank you Alonzo, by demanding an academic source, after I mentioned hijab, you've affirmed hijab isn't of academic level/quality, we all know it, but it's nice to see one of his own admit it! 😂
2
@AlonzoHarris235 Haha, so Pickthall now is my own personal made up interpretation, and Pickthall/his translation, as an Islamic Scholar, isn't a Scholary work! 😂🤣 So explain to me why his translation is accepted, how about all your translations affirm the wa is conjunctive!..... And, if I'm so wrong, prove it, simply provide quran verses, scholars/Scholary works, dictionaries/lexicons that state otherwise regarding the wa! Do you realise how many times the wa is used in your quran, and hadiths, and every single time it is used, it is translated as one word with one function "And, conjunctive!". So Alonzo, because it would be so easy to prove me wrong, do it! 😂
2
@AlonzoHarris235 Do you also realise Alonzo, that you've focused on only the wa, so you don't dispute the praying, So your only discrepancy is whether Al-Lah is praying alone to another, or whether the angels are too praying alongside! Now, it's evident and obvious that you've focused on the angels being alongside Al-Lah as that would be shirk, but you've taken your eye off the ball regarding the shirk regardless because Al-Lah is praying to another, who's the one Al-Lah is praying to, remember, your logic, if a god prays that dictates and necessitates dependancy, but your Al-Lah depends on creation in multiple ways!?!
2
@FormerKafir Pot calling the kettle....! Your cult, the doctrine, your incoherent contradictory scrapbook, hadiths, tafsirs, are nothing but Taqiyya Bid'ah pick n mix! You all try to cherry pick verses from the Bible to claim they're true/authentic/valid when you can apply Taqiyya, but any verses that expose and bust your cult and incoherent scrapbook you then claim corruption, even though your incoherent scrapbook, hadiths, tafsirs, mainstream popular accepted credited scholars, all affirm the authenticity of our Scripture, ibn Kathir even affirms Christianity, and the early Churchfathers, which includes their works/publications by default!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 What's the injil Alonzo!?! The injil was only present once Isa was born, so,...... If Isa is meant to be Jesus Christ, then Isa and the injil were present on earth during the time of Moses (7:155-157)! Prove Jesus Christ was incarnate on earth with an injil during the time of Moses!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 The Bible quotes Jesus stating He is God explicitly! Your quran claims humans claimed that it appeared as if Isa was crucified amongst other claims, and you all attribute those words to Al-Lah (Qurtubi 4:157)!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Definition of a prophet in Islam is one who is posessed by Al-Lah and as Al-Lah's human conduit/vessel speaks as Al-Lah, your mo was switching between being mo and Al-Lah literally!.... "When Gabriel revealed the Divine Inspiration in Allah's Messenger, he (Allah's Messenger) moved his tongue and lips" Sahih Al-Bukhari USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 451 Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4929
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Haha, you've just exposed your flawed fallacious logic!..... You're affirming that Al-Lah is a single hypostasis and it's the single hypostasis that's divine, and then trying to impose that onto the Trinity, wrong, try again! Now, how about you explain how your Al-Lah is "100 parts"!?!... And, we all have a share of Al-Lah's attribute of mercy (shirk)! Reference: Sahih Muslim 2752 a In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 20 USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6629 (deprecated numbering scheme)
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Now we've established Al-Lah is understood to be "hypostatically divine", do tell Alonzo, 15:51-66, is your Al-Lah 3 or 4 Al-Lahs!?!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Haha, you're struggling and desperately clutching at straws now Alonzo!...... You're claiming that each of the hypostasis are Triune in order to the 3 Hypostasis to be Triune, that's paradoxically oxymoronic! Furthermore, your Al-Lah doesn't dispute the concept of Triunity, only whether the concept applies to Al-Lah, but who cares, Al-Lah has nothing to do with the Trinity anyway, and if Al-Lah has nothing to do with the Trinity, then your Al-Lah, mo, quran, are busted!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Now when you say "god", who is your god (6:78)!?!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Your question is flawed just like 5:17 & 72! How can 1 Hypostasis be 3 Hypostasis unified by 1 Divine Nature/Substence/Esscence when we attest that the 3 Hypostasis are Divine through the unification of 1 Divine Nature/Substance/Esscence, and Al-Lah has nothing to do with the Trinity (6:78), so Al-Lah is exposed and busted!?! How can Al-Lah claim Al-Lah and Isa to be claimed to be Al-Lah and Isa to be a god besides Al-Lah (5:17 & 72-73, 5:116)!?! Oh, and 5:72-73 are contradictory by the way, so 4:82 has been activated! Alonzo, understand this, your Al-Lah is identifiable thanks to 6:78, I know the name(s)/identities of your assimilatory (tawheed) god(s). Do you!?!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Your question is so flawed it's hilarious!....you're appealing to Modalism like 5:17 & 72, wrong!.... Go on, explain how us saying 3 Hypostasis unified by 1 Divine Nature/Substance/Esscence dictates and necessitates 3 independant Divine Hypostasis being 1 Divine Hypostasis in order to be 1!?! If there's only 1 Divine hypostasis then regardless of the number of distinct hypostasis claimed in regards to the Divinity, the Divinity always remains as 1 (singular), so it would still be the fact and case that there's one single Divinity (god), Modalists believe in 1 god different modes, You all believe your god unifies and is one/oneness, so, your logic now goes against you, you cannot claim tawheed/unification/oneness, because that by your logic now dictates and necessitates independant multiplicity, so there's now 99 divinitie attributes and Al-Lah, and your Hadiths affirm these are all independant parts, so, you now have 100 Al-Lahs, oh, but wait, we all have at least one of these divine attributes, so, from Adam to date, every single human hypostasis is another to add to the total number of Al-Lahs, I'm Al-Lah, your Al-Lah, CP is Al-Lah, David Wood is Al-Lah etc etc! What a dilemma!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 How can 1 hypostasis be 3 Hypostasis unified by Divine Nature/Substance/Esscence!?! Go on, explain & answer! 😂 How can Al-Lah think Isa can be claimed to be Al-Lah in 5:17 & 5:72, and then in 5:73 & 5:116 claim Isa and Al-Lah are independant!?! Your logic dictates tawheed cannot apply to Al-Lah as it'd dictate and necessitate shirk, because you're saying unity dictates and necessitates independant plurality! Plus your Hadith has already proven that, and your quran affirms who/what Al-Lah is (6:78)!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Haha, not at all, remember, it's haram to play chess, so don't think you can out strategise a polemical tactician/strategist!...... Now, the reason I can accept premise 1 & 2 is because premise 1 includes premise 2 in order for premise 1 to be!..... You cannot have premise 1 without premise 2, and you cannot have premise 2 without premise 3, because both premises apply to the Trinity!
1
@FormerKafir Oh really, well seen as Al-Lah is Father to no one, you've just exposed your Al-Lah!
1
@FormerKafir You ask if Jesus is God why did He pray to God, well you've already identified the One you're referring to as God is the Father, and if Jesus is the Son, the 2nd Hypostasis in the Trinity, then God can pray to/praise /worship God! However, you have this dilemma to resolve when in 33:56 your god prays, who is your god praying to alongside the angels!?!
1
@FormerKafir Also, by acknowledging that "The Father" is God, that proves Al-Lah isn't! 7:155-157, Isa and the injil are around during the time of Moses! Do you seriously believe Jesus Christ was incarnate on earth carrying a book called injil with Disciples, and Christians during the time of Moses!?! Do you seriously believe that the god of Abraham is the chief god of Abraham's people, the people of Ur, as 6:78 claims and declared by Al-Lah to be Al-Lah!?! I challenge you right now to go and search who the chief god of Abraham's people was, and that's the name of your god and who your god is, then come back and show me that god in the Bible as "the God/Our God/the God of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, David, Solomon etc etc".
1
@FormerKafir Prove Jesus Christ was incarnate, with an injil book, and followers called Christians, were all around during the time of Moses (7:155-157)! Prove all the Prophets worshipped the chief god of Abraham's people, the people of Ur (6:78)! Go and search who and what that god is/was, that's who you're worshipping!
1
@FormerKafir I'm still waiting for you to show me where it mentions Jesus or God in the quran!
1
@FormerKafir No problem, it states and I quote... "Al-Lah AND (Arabic wa (conjunctive)) the angels pray". So, the catch 22, either both are praying to another, or both are co equal, which is it!?! And if Triunity means plurality, so does tawheed, it's just more problematic for you, because your entire premise depends on the literal hypostatic divinity fallacy instead of the Nature/Substance/Esscence unity that makes the Hypostasis Divine! Divinity makes God God! 1 Divinity (Nature, Substance, Esscence) unifies 3 Hypostasis, all Hypostasis have 1 same Divinity by default (unification)! How many Divinities are there!?! Your Lah, 1 literal "divine" hypostasis! 99 "divine attributes" totalling 100 divinities "unified" into the 1 single "divine" hypostasis! 100 "divinities" in total!..... Again, Divinity is what makes God God, so, how many gods is your Lah!?!
1
@FormerKafir Also, because our God is Triune (Father, Son, & Holy Spirit) when we pray to one hypostasis we pray to all by default, so that didn't exactly work in your favour now did it!?! You say the Trinity was made up 400 years after Jesus, well ibn Kathir as just one example refutes you in his 3:56 Arabic Tafsir, henotonky affirms, authenticates, and validates Christianity, but also our Scripture, and the early Churchfathers (their works/publications too by default)! Even ibn Taymiyyah affirms our Scripture is legit! So does the quran! So do your hadiths! But there's one problem you're still stuck with!...... 7:155-157, prove Jesus was in the flesh with a scripture during Moses time! Prove Jesus worshipped Nanna (6:78 & 36:1)!
1
@FormerKafir Haha, your quran, hadiths, and tafsirs all claim our scripture is legit, your quran claims the injil was with Isa during the time of Moses (7:155-157), prove it! And because my God is Triune all worship goes to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, if you understood the Trinity you'd have known that, so, seen as you've proven you don't know or understand the Trinity, you're in no position to dictate what the Trinity is or isn't, it's vice versa!
1
@FormerKafir Triunity dictates prayer/worship is to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! You've just rejected your own god, "prophet", quran, hadiths, and tafsirs/scholars! Prove Isa and injil were around during the time of Moses (7:155-157)!
1
@FormerKafir Triunity dictates prayer/worship is to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! Show me where Jesus Christ or our scripture are mentioned once in the entire quran!
1
@FormerKafir And regarding worshipping the Holy Spirit, two words..... Triune God! 😂
1
@FormerKafir Quran claims Isa and injil were around during the time of Moses! Was Jesus born/incarnate with a book in tow during the time of Moses!?!
1
@FormerKafir And as for the Holy Spirit, we do (Triunity)! Why do you worship a man & Al-Lah!?!
1
@AlonzoHarris235 That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and here's why..... The Triune God is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit! If the Trinity is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, then Jesus cannot be God alongside the Trinity! Your logic also dictates that the Father would be Triune as a single Hypostasis and the same would have to apply to the Holy Spirit! So, your entire premise is based on the claim/logic that triunity means that the Father should be Triune, Jesus should be Triune, and the Holy Spirit should be Triune, in order to claim the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are a Triune God (singular/1)! That's hilarious! 😂🤣🤣.... So, you've now just claimed and appealed to 3 triune gods unified in order to be one triune god, and your version of a Triune god has now 9 hypostasis, which completely contradicts Triunity in every way, shape, and form! And this is the premise of your entire claim! 😂🤣
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Actually, Triunity proves Jesus can pray to the Father, it's not an issue when God is Triune, like I said, it's problematic for you lot!..... Are you disputing the Arabic wa being conjunctive, you can check any and all academic sources, did hijab get it wrong when debating David Wood, he said.... "Al-Lah AND the angels pray 'FOR' not 'To'!". He never disputed the wa, he disputed whether it was "for" or "to" in the Arabic! Go on, say hijab was wrong, and Mansur, admit they don't know what they're talking about! And that all dictionaries and lexicons are in error! Bring all the proof if you're confident in your discrepancy/claim! 😂
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Jesus is God, so your question is fallacious!... Hebrews 1:3 answers your question, should've known that seen as you've tried to claim you're a Biblical Scholar so many times! 😂🤣
1
@AlonzoHarris235 And Pickthall is a Scholar, he translates the "wa" as "and"! See how easy your challenge was to fulfil! 😂 Now, seen as you seem to think my and Pickthall's understanding of the wa is incorrect, bring your evidence and proof to prove otherwise! I think you're just feeling a little stung because a Christian knows more about Arabic than you would like, and it strips you of your indoctrinated superiority complex!... Aw, have I made you feel emasculated!?! 😂
1
@AlonzoHarris235 Pickthall is a Scholar, he translates the "wa" as "and"! See how easy your challenge was to fulfil! 😂 Now, seen as you seem to think my and Pickthall's understanding of the wa is incorrect, bring your evidence and proof to prove otherwise! And again, I refer you to Hebrews 1:3, you can ask the same question in as many different ways as you so choose, Hebrews 1:3 still provides the answer! 😂🤣
1
@AlonzoHarris235 And you defend our scripture by claiming it to be the injil that's claimed to be preserved and authentic in the quran! You accept the Bible to be true! Your logic not mine! (your response to techwood1233). 😂 Aw, Alonzo, you know you've missed me, your side has been absent a thorn for a while! 😂🤣
1