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Ali Wahwah slipped and messed up, he said that God has to be One, as in, in order to be God, so, Ali Wahwah is attributing the Divinity with the number 1, 1 Hypostasis, that's shirk, because by his logic, we're all 1, 1 hypostasis, so we must all be divine and all be Al-Lahs! 😂 🤣 🤣
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Iah the Egyptian moon god translated into Arabic is Lah,
Iah assimilated Osiris (tawheed) and became Osiris-Iah, Isis was the consort of Osiris and Almakkah, Almakkah and Al-Lah were both the daddy to Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat, Sin, Dushara, Hubal, and many others were assimilated into one Al-Lah!
Al-Lah is an assimilatory pagan moon god!
There's one with a similar nature and trait in the Bible, he is called Legion, because he was many! 😂 🤣
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Dawahdools don't have an answer when I've asked how Mad-ham-mu & Al-Lah are both "the first & the last"!
99 Names of Al-Lah:
73 - The First - Al-awwal (ٱلأَوَّلُ)
74 - The Last - Al-aakhir (ٱلْآخِرُ)
99 Names of Muhammad:
76 - First - Awwal (اَوَّلٌ)
77 - Last - Akhir (اٰخِرٌ)
Roots:
The First:
Alif-Waw-Lam - To return, be before, come back to. To interpret [by consideration], explain. To contract, withdraw, become. To preside over, hold command or authority. To come to be. To put in a proper state/condition, or to compose [an affair]. To resort to; namely [a thing of any kind; the thing or place whence he or it originated, or came. His or its origin or source; his or its original state, condition, quantity, weight; any place. A former action, saying, or the like]. To return or restore to [ a thing, place, or disposition]. To explain, expound, interpret [collecting the meanings of dubious expressions by such expression as is clear, or plain, without dubiousness]. To explain the meaning of that which is equivocal or ambiguous. To be seen from a distance.
The Last:
Alif-Kha-Ra = go backwards, retreat/recede/retire, hold back/delay/postpone/defer, last/back part of a thing .
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Hahaha! Alonzo, you've just affirmed that your Al-Lah's Divinity is hypostasis dependent, so we're all Al-Lahs!.....
You what, you've just proven your Quran has an error in 5:116, no Christian ever acknowledged Al-Lah as the Father, even your Al-Lah admits Al-Lah isn't Yahweh in 9:29, Isa can't be Jesus because Isa is from the wrong tribe, time period, and has the wrong name, and as you've stated, Mary isn't part of the Trinity!
You've both done all the work to expose and bust your cult for me!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@1541965
You've just busted your Quran and cult!.....
If Elisabeth is referred to as a daughter, then she isn't a sister of Aaron is she!
And so what, Elisabeth isn't Mary is she!
David and Jesus are from Judah not Levi!
Yasue is Arabic for Jesus, Isa is Arabic for Esau!
Who is Isa the Levite son of Maryam, show me this individual in the Bible!
How can Isa be Jesus when Isa is the nephew of Moses and Aaron from the time of Moses and Aaron which your Quran claims (7:155-157), Also, explain how Maryam is both the sister of Aaron and an only child, how was Mary around at the time of Moses!?!
And related to the verses that expose this lunacy, explain where the missing Surahs/Quran from the birth to the age of 40 of Muhammad, how can Al-Lah be inside Aminah's proc ate parts sending pagan Sabian with the Quran, and how can pagan Sabian exist, be created before he's created in the womb, what was he in his initial state of creation, how can any human be created twice, where did Al-Lah go after Aminah popped her sandals, was Al-Lah's throne with Al-Lah inside Aminah!?! 🤔 😂
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@ultimatetruth9241
Oh yeah, and 5:46-47 is during the 7th century, and they authenticate the entire Bible, including Paul, in the 7th century, so to claim otherwise is to reject 5:46-47, and if you tell a lie about Al-Lah then you're in serious trouble, and if you keep disbelieving (4:137), then Al-Lah rejects you no matter how many shahadas you take, prayers you perform, and follow the Sunnah to the letter!
Ultimate Spoof, its not just CP that can expose and spank you, hard! 😂 🤣
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Brother Chris, next time a muslim asks where Jesus explicitly said "I am God" you can silence them with...
Revelation 1:1, is Jesus God or the Angel of God that declared He is God in Genesis 31:13 and who was present, conversing and interacting with Gideon in Judges!?!
Revelation 1:1
This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His Angel to His servant John,
Genesis 31:11 & 13
In that dream the Angel of God said to me, ‘Jacob!’ And I replied, ‘Here I am.’
I Am the God of Bethel, where you anointed the pillar and made a solemn vow to Me. Now get up and leave this land at once, and return to your native land.’ ”
Judges 6:12-14 & 34, 36, 39 & 40
And the Angel of the LORD appeared to Gideon and said, “The LORD is with you, O mighty man of valor.”
“Please, my Lord,” Gideon replied, “if the LORD is with us, why has all this happened to us? And where are all His wonders of which our fathers told us, saying, ‘Has not the LORD brought us up out of Egypt?’ But now the LORD has forsaken us and delivered us into the hand of Midian.”
The LORD turned to him and said, “Go in the strength you have and save Israel from the hand of Midian. Am I not sending you?”
So the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, who blew the ram’s horn and rallied the Abiezrites behind him
Then Gideon said to God, “If You are going to save Israel by my hand, as You have said,
Then Gideon said to God, “Do not be angry with me; let me speak one more time. Please allow me one more test with the fleece. This time let it be dry, and the ground covered with dew.”
And that night God did so. Only the fleece was dry, and dew covered the ground.
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him.
But Jesus answered them,
“To this very day 👉My Father👈 is at His work, and I too am working.”
👉Because of this👈,
👉the Jews tried all the harder to kill
Him👈.
Not only was He breaking the Sabbath,
but
👉He was even calling God His own
Father👈,
👉making Himself equal with
God.👈
John 13:12-14
When Jesus had washed their feet and put on His outer garments, He reclined with them again and asked, “Do you know what I have done for you?
👉You call Me👈 Teacher
👉and Lord (Κύριος)👈,
👉and rightly so, because I am👈.
👉So if I, your Lord (Κύριος)👈 and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet.
Philo was more fluent in Greek than in Hebrew and read the Jewish Scriptures chiefly from the Septuagint,
Philo, consistently uses Κύριος as a designation for God!
Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.
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@tahahagar7664
You're getting desperate! 😂 🤣
Etymologocally Yahweh doesn't contain a preposition, whereas both Iah the Egyptian moon god, and your Al-Lah do thanks to the Lam in Lah, there's no contraction of ilah aka the generic title for god, the Lam has an assimilatory function, it's a letter, and a preposition, if the definate article precedes the Lam in a word, and there's a preposition attached, then the Li/La (prepositions) assimilate into just the Lam (letter sound L),
So, no contraction, it's Lam assimilation, which means the process goes like this......
Al-liLah or Al-laLah
Li/La is the preposition using the Lam, the Lam is preceded by the definate article, so the preposition assimilated into the Lam after the definate article, which makes
Al-liLah/Al-laLah become al-L(preposition and letter) ah
Al-Lah, and that's the identical Etymologocal breakdown of the Egyptian hieroglyphs for the name of the Egyptian moon god Iah!
The i in Iah translated as the L (Lam) in Arabic!
See, unlike you abdools, we actually do our research, learn, and make sure we can back our mouths up!
Go on, try and refute me abdool!!! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@Daniella Naeem,
Your Al-Lah admits your Al-Lah isn't our Yahweh in 9:29, further affirms it in 29:46, and that our God Yahweh is One, which contradicts 5:116, which triggers 4:82, and every single verse referring to our Prophets, the Disciples/Apostles, our scripture, us,
And 5:116 gets the entire Trinity worng, there's no Al-Lah, Isa/Esau the Levite, or Maryam in the Trinity, and to claim 3 seperate Deities is an oxymoron due to the definitions of the words "Tri" and "Unity" and is the contradiction to 29:46!
I challenge you, show me one single verse in your Quran where it correctly describes the Trinity! 😂
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@16 mins 20 secs, this regular Speakers Corner abdool said...
"Blasphemey is to lie against God or to say something about God that He never said about Himself!".
So Mr Abdool, the fact that all of you abdools lose your minds and screech blasphemy over pictures of mo mo, mo mo has to be your Lah Lah!
But mo mo claimed Shaytanic verses were from Lah Lah, I mean himself, when he was praying to Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat and Lah Lah had to send Jibril the UPS angel to correct mo mo....
And Lah Lah claimed to not be like creation, and to have two right hands, but mo mo claimed to only be human, so mo mo lied about Lah Lah, I mean himself. 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@alonzoharris6338
Jesus existed but wasn't incarnate in the OT, who do we say Jesus is in the OT!?!....Who is Jesus in Revelation 1:1, God, or the Angel of God!?! 😂 🤣
No Christian ever claimed Jesus was incarnate in the OT, Aww, didn't you know that, not as knowledgeable as you thought are you! 😂 🤣
Jesus wasn't incarnate at the time of Moses, and Jesus wasn't a Levite, or called Esau, show me where Jesus is called Esau, and claimed to be from the tribe of Levi, at the time of Moses, which contradicts the Messiah, the Messiah has to be from David/Judah!.....
So who is Isa/Esau, can't be Jesus Christ!?!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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There weren't any diacritical marks textually in the 7th century, dialect was verbal only, so to claim different Qurans based on dialectical differences fails to resolve the different Arabic Qurans, only the rasm would've remained the same, so uthman couldn't have burnt different dialectical textual Qurans!...
And furthermore, the different Arabic Qurans don't contain dialectical differences, they contain completely different words and meanings as proven below, your claim dictates Muhammad is Al-Lah (shirk), or you have different Arabic Qurans, which is it, because Al-Lah commands in one, Muhammad is speaking in the other!?!😂 🤣...
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
You're busted abdool! 😂 🤣
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@roynashick9233
I've learnt about madhumus!...
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@feduntu
Haha! If they have trouble with 3 in 1, then they've got major problems because Al-Lah in 15:58-66 is the 3 visitors that visited Abraham, so is Al-Lah 3 or 4, and Al-Lah is multiple recipients of inheritance from another in 28:58, Royal we Taqiyya doesn't change nada, the Arabic grammar rules dictate, as does the definition, that inheritors is a sound plural, so who is Al-Lah inheriting from, and how many Al-Lahs are inheriting!
And we all know that in 33:56 Al-Lah prays to another in order to invoke blessings, as mo hijab said, "FOR not TO the 'prophet'" when debating David Wood, and joke is, Hijab had help from Shamsi to take on David Wood, and David Wood still won the debate and Hijab helped bust his cult by affirming David Wood was right by quoting him as stated above!
So David Wood technically defeated both Hijab and Shamsi that night! 😂 🤣
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Hamza needs a spanking!
He wants to debate John 17:3, no probs, let's bring the entire chapter!...
John 17
1 When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come. 👉Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may Glorify You👈.
2 👉For You granted Him authority over all people, so that 👉He may give eternal life👈 to all those You have given Him.
3 👉Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.👈
4 I have Glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do.
5 👉And now, Father, Glorify Me in Your presence with the Glory I had with You before the world
existed.👈
6 👉I have revealed Your Name👈 to those You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours; You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.👈
7 Now they know that everything You have given Me comes from You. 8 For I have given them the words You gave Me, and they have received them. 👉They knew with certainty that I came from You, and they believed that You sent Me.👈
9 I ask on their behalf. I do not ask on behalf of the world, but on behalf of those You have given Me; for they are Yours.
10 👉All I have is Yours, and all You have is Mine👈; and in them 👉I have been Glorified👈.
11 I will no longer be in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to You.
12👉Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave Me,
so that they may be one as We are one.👈
12While I was with them, I protected and preserved them by Your name, the name You gave Me. Not one of them has been lost, except the son of destruction, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.
13 But now I am coming to You; and I am saying these things while I am in the world, so that they may have My joy fulfilled within them.
14 👉I have given them Your word and the world has hated them; for they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.👈
15 I am not asking that You take them out of the world, but that You keep them from the evil one.
16 They are not of the world, just as 👉I am not of the world.👈
17 Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.
18 As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world.
19 For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth.
20 I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message,
21 👉that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You👈. 👉May they also be in Us👈, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 👉I have given them the Glory You gave Me👈, 👉so that they may be one as We are one👈—
23 👉I in them and You in Me—that they may be perfectly united,👈
so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me.
24 Father, I want those You have given Me to be with Me where I am, 👉that they may see the Glory You gave Me because You loved Me before the foundation of
the world.👈
25 👉Righteous Father, although the world has not known You, I know You👈, and they know that You sent Me.
26 👉And I have made Your name known to them👈 and will continue to make it known, so that the love You have for Me may be in them, and I in them.”
Al-Lah isn't Yahweh!
Jesus is the Son of God, Glorified, by the Father!
Jesus comes from the Father!
Jesus is Co equal with the Father!
Jesus Gives Eternal Life so that both the Father and Jesus are known, together, Co Equally!
Jesus has the same Name as the Father!
To now claim Isa and Al-Lah as Jesus Christ and the Father, is to claim a contradictory hypocrite Al-Lah!
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@marjan.f7441
Ramadan is lunar feasting not fasting, you don't know the meaning of the word or act!
And people can recite films, songs, sports stats, does that now mean film scripts, song lyrics, and published sports stats are equal to the Quran and the words of Al-Lah!?!
If in one recitation I command someone to recite, and in another recitation it states that the reciter recited, this cannot be claimed to be one perfectly preserved publication!..
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
Regardless of the fact that this dictates Muhammad is Al-Lah (shirk), "SAY" & "HE SAID" are not the same perfectly preserved words, one or the other has to be the exact, specific, explicit statement, one is a variant, and the 2 create a Theological dilemma!
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@Alonzo Harris
Christian: is Al-Lah 1?
Muslim: Yes!
Christian: who then did Al-Lah pray to (33:56), how can Muhammad be called the praised one and Glorified (48:9) alongside Al-Lah, who does Al-Lah inherit from (28:58), and how can Al-Lah be Ahad (112:1)!?!....
This is 100% pure shirk!
Muslim:....Silent!
Christian: is Isa Jesus Christ?
Muslim: yes!
Christian: where does it state Yasue Al-Masih in the Quran, Where's Isa's genealogy, and why does it state that Isa is from the wrong tribe, and a nephew of Moses/Aaron, from the time of Moses (7:157 & 19:28)!?!
Muslim:......Silent!
Christian: was Isa Crucified and did he resurrect?
Muslim: no!
Christian: then why does Quran 3:55 state so, and why are you attributing the speech of Jews, Christians, and Nestorians that didn't exist at the time of Jesus, as being the word of Al-Lah!?!
Muslim:......Silent!
😂 🤣 🤣
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@johndench628
I think what Paperboy is explainng is that the people were concerned with purely sticking with the letter of the Torah and doing the physical good deeds and works, and placing their entire dependancy of their salvation in the Torah, whereas Jesus fulfilling the Law, and being God, you follow God's Command which is to follow Jesus, and Jesus is the One whom if you follow, you by default obide by the Law anyway, so,
Don't place your salvation in good works and deeds via the Torah alone, your good deeds and works will come naturally through following Christ alone and by default you keep God's Law and Commandments, but we will always slip from time to time, hence why the Lord came to save us from our own failings and flaws that manifest sin!.....
Hope that makes sense!
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@aaronharun1394H
That doesn't answer my questions, and your entire response contradicts and rejects 1:1, and it affirms that Al-Lah is a name not a title, so Al-Lah isn't ilah Yahweh, Al-Lah is ilah Al-Lah......Busted!......
Now 4:48 states clearly that shirk cannot be forgiven, and all you abdools claim blasphemy whenever your pagan Sabian is, in your minds, disrespected, look at the recent protests extending the blasphemy claims regarding Fatima and the film Lady of Heaven,
So now there's Al-Lah, Muhammad, and Fatima, all being defined as divine aka gods, can't be one, you reject the Trinity, so you now have 2 gods and a goddess, how many more are there, is Aisha on the list too?!?.....
And it also means 5:116 is a contradictive hypocrisy, it gets everything wrong about the Trinity, yet exposes and proves you're all committing shirk! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@abdulshahid6412
Same chapter gets you, your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, your Quran, and cult busted abdool!😂🤣🤣.....
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him.
But Jesus answered them,
“To this very day 👉My Father👈 is at His work, and I too am working.”
👉Because of this👈,
👉the Jews tried all the harder to kill
Him👈.
Not only was He breaking the Sabbath,
but
👉He was even calling God His own
Father👈,
👉making Himself equal with
God.👈
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@youwhat491
Wrong! Isa is Esau in Arabic, you can't change a name and claim its the same name in translation, or the same person, you've just destroyed your Quran!....And admitted the fact that you've made up a name for a person that isn't recognised in Arabic or by Arab Christians as Jesus Christ! 😂 🤣
And then there's the fact that Isa/Esau is claimed in Quran to be a Levite from the time of Moses,
So if Isa is Jesus Christ, prove that Jesus Christ was incarnate, with a written Gospel at the time of Moses,
And even then, you'd still have the dilemma that the Messiah has to come from the tribe of Judah aka David not Levi, so your Isa is from the wrong time, tribe, and by your own admission, has the wrong name!....
So who is Isa, can't be Jesus Christ! 😂 🤣 🤣
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In the chains of narration, what difference does it make if you have 100 or a thousand stating the same narration, if the narration itself is a lie, then all you have is a Sahih lie! 😂🤣
Also, if those in the chains are so trustworthy, then why aren't all Hadiths Sahih, why have a grading system!?!
Furthermore, Bukhari supposedly had to throw a load of Hadiths out, how many contained the chains of narration that are being now claimed to be trustworthy, and who decided who in each chain were trustworthy or not when Bukhari came after those in the chains were long gone, and the grading system came in later still!
It's like a muslim today claiming to verify a chain of narration and Grade it, how does that muslim know who said what when, whether what was said was a perfect quotation or a mere paraphrase!?!
And there's no such thing as a fake Hadith in the Hadiths, Sahih, Hassan, Da'if,
All these gradings are, are like the following examples....
Sahih - mo went to Sainsburys
Hassan - mo went to a popular supermarket chain
Da'if - mo went to a supermarket
All affirm mo went to a supermarket, just the level of detail differs, it's Sahih if it's fully detailed, hassan if it has a slight vagueness to it, Da'if can be quite vague, just providing very basic details.
And the irony, they all need the Hadiths to follow the sunnah the quran commands, so the quran, Al-Lah's word, is dependent on additional man made sources, and the Muslims by their own admission have failed to preserve the sunnah the quran commands to follow,
So not a single muslim can be sure they're following the sunnah! 😂
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@solascriptura1536
I always mention aswel that when reading 7:155-157, it's all set at the time of Moses, the injil is there, so Isa has to be, and that supports the exposure of the error in 19:28, that's why the Christians of Najran questioned it, and that's why Aisha called Kab a liar when he tried to update people on the correction, which is a joke, Mad-ham-mu just reworded what he was told by Mughirah by the Christians of Najran,
It's like saying the lotto numbers are xyz, you then get told actually they're zyx, and then you say oh yeah! yeah! that's what I meant when I said xyz, I stated them backwards for you! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
Alooooonzo!....I'm still waiting for you to explain why Jibril possessed mo like a demon, it explains why mo couldn't tell the difference between Shaytan and Jibril, but why does Jibril operate mo, doesn't that make Jibril the prophet, not mo, where was mo while Jibril was operating the body of mo!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
(as regards) Allah's Statement: "Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith." (75.16) When Gabriel revealed the Divine Inspiration 👉in👈Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) , 👉he (Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)) moved his tongue and lips👈, and that state used to be very hard for him, and that movement indicated that revelation was taking place. So Allah revealed in Surat Al-Qiyama which begins: 'I do swear by the Day of Resurrection...' (75) the Verses:-- 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith. It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) in your mind, and give you the ability to recite it by heart. (75.16-17) Ibn `Abbas added: It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) (in your mind), and give you the ability to recite it by heart means, "When We reveal it, listen. Then it is for Us to explain it," means, 'It is for us to explain it through your tongue.' So whenever Gabriel came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ' he would keep quiet (and listen), and when the Angel left, the Prophet (ﷺ) would recite that revelation as Allah promised him.
Sahih Al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 451
Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4929
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Time to bury the Taqiyya on this one once & for all (4:3 (marriage) below, 65:4 (divorce) in the reply section)!.....
4:3
Arabic:
وَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تُقۡسِطُواْ فِي 👈ٱلۡيَتَٰمَىٰ👉 فَٱنكِحُواْ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ مَثۡنَىٰ وَثُلَٰثَ وَرُبَٰعَۖ فَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تَعۡدِلُواْ فَوَٰحِدَةً أَوۡ مَا مَلَكَتۡ أَيۡمَٰنُكُمۡۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَلَّا تَعُولُواْ
English Transliteration
Wa-in khiftum alla tuqsitoo
👉feealyatama👈 fankihoo ma tabalakum mina annisa-i mathna wathulathawarubaAAa fa-in khiftum alla taAAdiloo fawahidatanaw ma malakat aymanukum thalika adnaalla taAAooloo
Ya-Ta-Miim = orphan, fatherless, become isolated or lonely, solitary, weary, jaded, become widow,
👉become without father before puberty/maturity.👈
yatim n.m. (pl. yatama) 2:83, 2:177, 2:215, 2:220, 4:2, 👉4:3👈, 4:6, 4:8, 4:10, 4:36, 4:127, 4:127, 6:152, 8:41, 17:34, 18:82, 59:7, 76:8, 89:17, 90:15, 93:6, 93:9, 107:2
Sahih International
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the 👉orphan girls👈, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Ibn Kathir Tafsir (4:3)
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry (other) women of your choice,
Allah commands, 👉when one of you is the caretaker of a female orphan and he fears that he might not give her a dowry👈 that is suitable for women of her status, he should marry other women, who are plenty as Allah has not restricted him.
Al-Bukhari recorded that Aishah said,
👉"A man was taking care of a female orphan and he
married her👈, although he did not desire to marry her. That girl's money was mixed with his, and he was keeping her portion from her. Afterwards, this Ayah was revealed about his case;
If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly..."
Al-Bukhari recorded that Urwah bin Az-Zubayr said that;
he 👉asked Aishah about the meaning👈 of the statement of Allah,
(If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls).
👉She said, "O my nephew! This is about the orphan girl who lives with her guardian and shares his property. Her wealth and beauty may tempt him to marry her without giving her an adequate dowry👈 which might have been given by another suitor. So, such guardians were forbidden to marry such orphan girls unless they treated them justly and gave them the most suitable dowry; otherwise they were ordered to marry woman besides them."
👉Aishah further said,
"After that verse, the people again asked the Messenger of Allah (about marriage with orphan girls)👈, so Allah revealed the Ayah,
(They ask your instruction concerning the women..)." (4:127)
She said,
"Allah's statement in this Ayah,
(yet whom you desire to marry) (4:127) refers to the guardian who does not desire to marry an orphan girl under his supervision because she is neither wealthy nor beautiful. 👉The guardians were forbidden to marry their orphan girls possessing property and beauty without being just to them👈, as 👉they generally refrain from marrying them (when they are neither beautiful nor wealthy)."👈
The Permission to Marry Four Women
Allah's statement,
two or three, or four,
means, marry as many women as you like, other than the orphan girls, two, three or four.
We should mention that Allah's statement in another Ayah,
(Who made the angels messengers with wings, - two or three or four), (35:1), does not mean that other angels do not have more than four wings, as there are proofs that some angels do have more wings. Yet, men are prohibited from marrying more than four wives, as the Ayah decrees, since the Ayah specifies what men are allowed of wives, as Ibn Abbas and the majority of scholars stated. If it were allowed for them to have more than four wives, the Ayah would have mentioned it.
Imam Ahmad recorded that Salim said that his father said that;
Ghilan bin Salamah Ath-Thaqafi had ten wives when he became Muslim, and the Prophet said to him, "Choose any four of them (and divorce the rest)."
During the reign of Umar, Ghilan divorced his remaining wives and divided his money between his children.
When Umar heard news of this, he said to Ghilan, "I think that the devil has conveyed to your heart the news of your imminent death, from what the devil hears during his eavesdropping. It may as well be that you will not remain alive but for a little longer. By Allah! You will take back your wives and your money, or I will take possession of this all and will order that your grave be stoned as is the case with the grave of Abu Righal (from Thamud, who was saved from their fate because he was in the Sacred Area. But, when he left it, he was tormented like they were)."
Ash-Shafi`i, At-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, Ad-Daraqutni and Al-Bayhaqi collected this Hadith up to the Prophet's statement, "Choose any four of them."
Only Ahmad collected the full version of this Hadith.
Therefore, had it been allowed for men to marry more than four women at the same time, the Prophet would have allowed Ghilan to keep more than four of his wives since they all embraced Islam with him. When the Prophet commanded him to keep just four of them and divorce the rest, this indicated that men are not allowed to keep more than four wives at a time under any circumstances. If this is the case concerning those who already had more than four wives upon embracing Islam, then this ruling applies even more so to marrying more than four.
Marrying Only One Wife When One Fears He Might not Do Justice to His Wives
Allah's statement,
But if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one 👉or what your right hands possess.👈
👉The Ayah commands👈, if you fear that you will not be able to do justice between your wives by marrying more than one, then marry only one wife, or 👉satisfy yourself with only female captives👈,
for 👉it is not obligatory to treat them equally👈, rather it is recommended. So if one does so, that is good, and if not, there is no harm on him.
In another Ayah, Allah said,
You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire. (4:129)
Allah said,
That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu,
meaning, from doing injustice.
Ibn Abi Hatim, Ibn Marduwyah and Abu Hatim Ibn Hibban, in his Sahih, recorded that Aishah said that,
the Prophet said that the Ayah,
(That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu, means, from doing injustice.
However, Ibn Abi Hatim said that his father said that this Hadith to the Prophet is a mistake, for it should be attributed to Aishah not the Prophet.👈
Ibn Abi Hatim reported from Ibn Abbas, Mujahid, Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Abu Malik, Abu Razin, An-Nakhai, Ash-Sha`bi, Ad-Dahhak, Ata Al-Khurasani, Qatadah, As-Suddi and Muqatil bin Hayyan that;
Ta`ulu means to deviate (from justice).
Giving the Dowry is Obligatory
Allah says;
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@Mehdi Aghamoosa
4:34 doesn't give stages, it's all inclusive, and you've just affirmed and admitted that the beating of your wife is in order to control your wife is in your Quran and cult, you've just proven Hatun right!
And Ephesians 5:23 gets your entire cult busted because, as you've quoted, Jesus is our Saviour, not Al-Lah, not Muhammad, JESUS, that means no need for Muhammad, so he is a false prophet, and nowhere in Ephesians, or 1 Peter, or anywhere in the entire Bible, does it state anything like Quran 4:34, it actually states the complete polar opposite (Ephesians 5:28 (same book & chapter abdool))! 😂 🤣
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@AlonzoHarris235
Hold on Alonzo, you said "methodology to verify sayings", is this an admission that you've got nothing preserved from Al-Lah/mo, only "claimed" verifications of what was supposedly stated/said!?!....
So, your entire preservation is affirmed to be reliant on others, the same others that apply using this "methodology" in your Hadiths, which you all discredit as none of you accept the Hadiths in their entirety, so nothing is preserved, not even the quran, regardless of claim to preserved text, which is easily debunked too!....
So you've actually got nada, Jack to the diddly to the squat! 😂🤣
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@aaronharun1394H
Neither Moses, Jesus Christ, or Christian, ever claimed that the 5 books of the Torah or the Gospel that IS Jesus Christ, were ever physical written publications sent down by a pagan moon god called Al-Lah! 😂 🤣
And what you're saying is that the Syriac infancy Gospel in the Quran, authored by men, attributed to the word of Al-Lah, is false, and a corruption of the Quran, and that Al-Lah is wrong for committing shirk! 😂 🤣 🤣
You also claim that the injil was sent down as a book to Jesus, well that means you have to prove as per Quran, that the injil and Isa were incarnate and sent down during the time of Moses (7:155-157)! 😂 🤣
And also, the Quran claimjng the injil is the entire Bible in 5:46, and authe tic in 5:47, and this is in the 7tu century (10:94), then its for you to prove that Jesus was now incarnate and had the injil in the 7th century, which contradicts Quran 7:155-157, but also, you have to provide an injil and manuscripts, 7th/post 7th century, to prove there ever was an injil as per your understanding and claim! 😂 🤣 🤣
Burden of proof is all on you not us! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@marjan.f7441
Ramadan is lunar feasting not fasting, you don't know the meaning of the word or act!
And people can recite films, songs, sports stats, does that now mean film scripts, song lyrics, and published sports stats are equal to the Quran and the words of Al-Lah!?!
If in one recitation I command someone to recite, and in another recitation it states that the reciter recited, this cannot be claimed to be one perfectly preserved publication!..
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
Regardless of the fact that this dictates Muhammad is Al-Lah (shirk), "SAY" & "HE SAID" are not the same perfectly preserved words, one or the other has to be the exact, specific, explicit statement, one is a variant, and the 2 create a Theological dilemma!
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Brothers and Sisters, please learn to state, that in the OT David isn't CALLED a prophet, only King, however, Acts 2:29-30 affirms he indeed is acknowledged as a Prophet, now, this works in our favour, because if the Quran is identifying David as a Prophet, and it doesn't mention this in the OT, then Acts has just been proven to be authentic by Quranic claimed standards, this proves the injil isn't just a single Gospel, it's at the very least the NT, but wait, 5:46-47 claims the injil contains the Torah, not a bit, not part, not quotations or references to, but the entire Torah, so, the injil now is proven to be the ENTIRE Bible, that means Paul has to be accepted by default, and if he's a messenger in the Quran, they can't reject him without rejecting all including Mad-ham-mu, and in the 7th century, as per, 5:46-47, that dictates our scripture in its entirety is declared to be authentic, and to be the foundation we're to judge by!......
Quran just destroyed itself, it authenticates our entire scripture, and our Scripture in turn exposes and busts Quran!
What a beautiful ironic paradox the Quran has created for itself! 😂 🤣
Acts 2:29-30
Brothers, I can tell you with confidence that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.
But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that He would place one of his descendants on his throne.
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I'll give an even better answer!...
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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Let's Bury the Taqiyya on this one once & for all (4:3 (marriage) below & 65:4 (divorce) in the reply section) !.....
4:3
Arabic:
وَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تُقۡسِطُواْ فِي 👈ٱلۡيَتَٰمَىٰ👉 فَٱنكِحُواْ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ مَثۡنَىٰ وَثُلَٰثَ وَرُبَٰعَۖ فَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تَعۡدِلُواْ فَوَٰحِدَةً أَوۡ مَا مَلَكَتۡ أَيۡمَٰنُكُمۡۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَلَّا تَعُولُواْ
English Transliteration
Wa-in khiftum alla tuqsitoo
👉feealyatama👈 fankihoo ma tabalakum mina annisa-i mathna wathulathawarubaAAa fa-in khiftum alla taAAdiloo fawahidatanaw ma malakat aymanukum thalika adnaalla taAAooloo
Ya-Ta-Miim = orphan, fatherless, become isolated or lonely, solitary, weary, jaded, become widow,
👉become without father before puberty/maturity.👈
yatim n.m. (pl. yatama) 2:83, 2:177, 2:215, 2:220, 4:2, 👉4:3👈, 4:6, 4:8, 4:10, 4:36, 4:127, 4:127, 6:152, 8:41, 17:34, 18:82, 59:7, 76:8, 89:17, 90:15, 93:6, 93:9, 107:2
Sahih International
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the 👉orphan girls👈, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Ibn Kathir Tafsir (4:3)
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry (other) women of your choice,
Allah commands, 👉when one of you is the caretaker of a female orphan and he fears that he might not give her a dowry👈 that is suitable for women of her status, he should marry other women, who are plenty as Allah has not restricted him.
Al-Bukhari recorded that Aishah said,
👉"A man was taking care of a female orphan and he
married her👈, although he did not desire to marry her. That girl's money was mixed with his, and he was keeping her portion from her. Afterwards, this Ayah was revealed about his case;
If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly..."
Al-Bukhari recorded that Urwah bin Az-Zubayr said that;
he 👉asked Aishah about the meaning👈 of the statement of Allah,
(If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls).
👉She said, "O my nephew! This is about the orphan girl who lives with her guardian and shares his property. Her wealth and beauty may tempt him to marry her without giving her an adequate dowry👈 which might have been given by another suitor. So, such guardians were forbidden to marry such orphan girls unless they treated them justly and gave them the most suitable dowry; otherwise they were ordered to marry woman besides them."
👉Aishah further said,
"After that verse, the people again asked the Messenger of Allah (about marriage with orphan girls)👈, so Allah revealed the Ayah,
(They ask your instruction concerning the women..)." (4:127)
She said,
"Allah's statement in this Ayah,
(yet whom you desire to marry) (4:127) refers to the guardian who does not desire to marry an orphan girl under his supervision because she is neither wealthy nor beautiful. 👉The guardians were forbidden to marry their orphan girls possessing property and beauty without being just to them👈, as 👉they generally refrain from marrying them (when they are neither beautiful nor wealthy)."👈
The Permission to Marry Four Women
Allah's statement,
two or three, or four,
means, marry as many women as you like, other than the orphan girls, two, three or four.
We should mention that Allah's statement in another Ayah,
(Who made the angels messengers with wings, - two or three or four), (35:1), does not mean that other angels do not have more than four wings, as there are proofs that some angels do have more wings. Yet, men are prohibited from marrying more than four wives, as the Ayah decrees, since the Ayah specifies what men are allowed of wives, as Ibn Abbas and the majority of scholars stated. If it were allowed for them to have more than four wives, the Ayah would have mentioned it.
Imam Ahmad recorded that Salim said that his father said that;
Ghilan bin Salamah Ath-Thaqafi had ten wives when he became Muslim, and the Prophet said to him, "Choose any four of them (and divorce the rest)."
During the reign of Umar, Ghilan divorced his remaining wives and divided his money between his children.
When Umar heard news of this, he said to Ghilan, "I think that the devil has conveyed to your heart the news of your imminent death, from what the devil hears during his eavesdropping. It may as well be that you will not remain alive but for a little longer. By Allah! You will take back your wives and your money, or I will take possession of this all and will order that your grave be stoned as is the case with the grave of Abu Righal (from Thamud, who was saved from their fate because he was in the Sacred Area. But, when he left it, he was tormented like they were)."
Ash-Shafi`i, At-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, Ad-Daraqutni and Al-Bayhaqi collected this Hadith up to the Prophet's statement, "Choose any four of them."
Only Ahmad collected the full version of this Hadith.
Therefore, had it been allowed for men to marry more than four women at the same time, the Prophet would have allowed Ghilan to keep more than four of his wives since they all embraced Islam with him. When the Prophet commanded him to keep just four of them and divorce the rest, this indicated that men are not allowed to keep more than four wives at a time under any circumstances. If this is the case concerning those who already had more than four wives upon embracing Islam, then this ruling applies even more so to marrying more than four.
Marrying Only One Wife When One Fears He Might not Do Justice to His Wives
Allah's statement,
But if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one 👉or what your right hands possess.👈
👉The Ayah commands👈, if you fear that you will not be able to do justice between your wives by marrying more than one, then marry only one wife, or 👉satisfy yourself with only female captives👈,
for 👉it is not obligatory to treat them equally👈, rather it is recommended. So if one does so, that is good, and if not, there is no harm on him.
In another Ayah, Allah said,
You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire. (4:129)
Allah said,
That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu,
meaning, from doing injustice.
Ibn Abi Hatim, Ibn Marduwyah and Abu Hatim Ibn Hibban, in his Sahih, recorded that Aishah said that,
the Prophet said that the Ayah,
(That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu, means, from doing injustice.
However, Ibn Abi Hatim said that his father said that this Hadith to the Prophet is a mistake, for it should be attributed to Aishah not the Prophet.👈
Ibn Abi Hatim reported from Ibn Abbas, Mujahid, Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Abu Malik, Abu Razin, An-Nakhai, Ash-Sha`bi, Ad-Dahhak, Ata Al-Khurasani, Qatadah, As-Suddi and Muqatil bin Hayyan that;
Ta`ulu means to deviate (from justice).
Giving the Dowry is Obligatory
Allah says;
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@alidawahs9yroldwedsa40yrol2
Haha, technically, Al-Lah has many shins, hands, body parts, because Al-Lah is an assimilatory moon demon,
Al-Lah's shins are...the shin of Sin, the shin of Dushara, shin of Hubal, shin of Almaqah, shin of Osiris, and the shin of Iah/Lah aka Osiris Iah/Lah!
Al-Lah sounds like a mutant spider, multiple arms and legs etc! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@solascriptura1536
He's a joke, CP has spanked him so many times!
But it gets worse for him, ibn Taymiyyah, ibn kathir and the Hadiths combined with historical facts destroy his cult and affirm our scripture and Christianity in its entirety!.....
Al-Jawab As-Sahih
Sheikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah
Affirms we have the Truth, preserved, it's our interpretation of the text, not the text itself that's questioned!
3:56
Tafseer of the Great Qur’an / Ibn Katheer (d. 774 AH) is classified and verified
👉Al-Lah recounted their articles in the Qur’an, and he responded to each group, so they continued to do so close to
👉three hundred years👈,
then a king of the Greek kings called Constantine emerged for them, he entered the religion of Christianity, a trick was said to corrupt him, because he was a philosopher, and it was said that he was ignorant. He changed the religion of Christ for them and perverted it, added to it and decreased it, and laid down laws for him, and the loyal secretariat which is a low (vile) betrayal, and pork was permissible in his time, and they prayed for him to the east, and they drew for him churches, temples and hermatiges, and increased their fasting ten days for a sin they claim he committed. And the religion of Christ became the religion of Constantine, except that he built for them more than twelve thousand temples, churches, hermitages, and courtyards, and he built the city attributed to him, and the royal sect of them followed him,
تفسير تفسير القرآن العظيم/ ابن كثير (ت 774 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
وقد حكى الله مقالاتهم في القرآن، ورد على كل فريق، فاستمروا على ذلك قريباً من ثلثمائة سنة، ثم نبغ لهم ملك من ملوك اليونان يقال له قسطنطين، فدخل في دين النصرانية، قيل حيلة ليفسده، فإنه كان فيلسوفاً، وقيل جهلاً منه، إلا أنه بدل لهم دين المسيح وحرفه، وزاد فيه ونقص منه، ووضعت له القوانين، والأمانة الكبرى التي هي الخيانة الحقيرة، وأحل في زمانه لحم الخنزير، وصلوا له إلى المشرق، وصوروا له الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع، وزادوا في صيامهم عشرة أيام من أجل ذنب ارتكبه فيما يزعمون، وصار دين المسيح دين قسطنطين إلا أنه بنى لهم من الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع والديارات ما يزيد على اثني عشر ألف معبد، وبنى المدينة المنسوبة إليه، واتبعه الطائفة الملكية منهم،
The first complete copies of single New Testament books appear around 200CE.
If we're to go by Ibn Kathir's claim, then the manuscripts that are dated during/around the time of Constantine I are 1 & 2 Timothy, 1 & 2 Peter, 2 & 3 John, and Jude.
Even if we were to ignore these parts of the NT, it wouldn't change the doctrine, belief, faith, that Jesus is the Son of God, came in the flesh, was Crucified for our sins, resurrected on the 3rd day, and declared He is Yahweh, the Son of Yahweh (God)!....As supported by early church fathers, whose writings too, pre date Constantine I!
Constantine I converted to Christianity on his deathbed in 337CE!
The legalisation of Christianity, sanctioning of building churches, the start of the Ecumenical Councils, all happened before his conversion!
Waraqa was translating an injil...
Reference: Sahih Muslim 160 a
In-book reference: Book 1, Hadith 310
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 1, Hadith 301 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Muhammad swore an oath on the Torah in the 7th century....
Reference: Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
In-book reference: Book 40, Hadith 99
English translation: Book 39, Hadith 4434
And Quran claims we have the truth in 5:46-47 and 10:94, and that the Injil is the entire Bible, including Paul!
And 29:46, they're commanded to say they believe what we believe, so everytime they dispute anything, they're in breach of this verse, and if they keep breaching/rejecting this or any verse, they trigger 4:137 and Al-Lah permanently rejects them! 😂 🤣
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@nobodynobody4389
Listen! This is the 3rd time you've responded to my comment with "TLDR", so let me make myself perfectly crystal in my clarity,
I'm not asking you to read my comments!
I don't care if you think my comments are too long and didn't read them!
My comments aren't for you!
So if you don't want to read them, don't read them, I'm not going to lose any sleep or shed any tears as a result, and I certainly don't need you to keep informing me!
Furthermore, your constant repetition isn't going to manipulate or dictate the length of my comments, I will post 20 long comments if I so desire and choose, it's not up to you, or relevant whether you read them!
Now, I've acknowledged your statements, I've addressed your statements, so you don't need to keep repeating yourself like an abdool parrot, next time I comment, save yourself the hassle and bother, just ignore it!
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@alonzoharris9049
Iah the Egyptian moon god translated into Arabic is Lah, Iah assimilated (tawheed) Osiris to become Osiris-Iah, Isis was the consort of both Osiris and Almakkah, and both Almakkah and Al-Lah were the daddy to Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat, your Al-Lah is also Sin as per 6:78 & 36:1, your Al-Lah is also Hubal, Dushara, and many more, your Al-Lah is assimilatory by nature, assimilated pagan moon gods into one Al-Lah!
😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
The bigger joke over your fallacious linguistic semantics is, that you still can't translate Isa from Arabic into Greek to prove Isa to be Jesus Christ, and you can't appeal to Eastern Syriac Aramaic dialect as its the wrong one, in Galilean Aramaic dialect and Hebrew His Name is the same (Yeshua), and Yeshua translated into Arabic is Yasue NOT Isa, finally, the fact your Al-Lah is the one who claims to name Isa Isa, in Arabic, then your Al-Lah wouldn't be using Aramaic or Hebrew, but rather translate the Name into Arabic so it was understood by the Arabs,
So, you have the dilemma now where you have to prove that Isa instead of Jesus as being the name of THE Messiah, or alternatively you concede and accept Isa isn't Jesus Christ!
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@tariqthebiblicalscholar5865
Abdool you've created a paradoxical oxymoronic strawman! Wow! That has to honestly be the first time I've seen one of these, it's so funny! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
First of all abdool, I'm the one who's made the point that words borrowed doesn't dictate transfer of origin, which is what your claim implies,
The point is, the origin of a word is what dictates which language the word is, NOT which languages borrow and use the word!
That's why the injil would be written in Greek not Aramaic, which is what your initial fallacy is built upon, you're claiming that there should be a first century Aramaic manuscript as the injil which is a Greek word, and you then say injil is Arabic not Greek, even though it's Greek in origin, which I've pointed out, dictates it's still a Greek word, which supports the response prior which you made this claim as a response to!
You've then tried to claim garage to be a French word in origin and because it's borrowed in English it's an English word to, which exposes the fact that as a borrowed word, so it's not English in origin, its a French word used in the English language,
If I claim in England that I'm going to publish a book in the language of, and for the Spanish people, and call it "garage", and then it's all in Norwegian, that doesn't make the word Spanish or English does it, no, it's still a French word! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
You're the one who hasn't got a clue about languages! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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If you have one Quran, then you have 2 problems regarding the below verse!...
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
1. Mad-ham-mu & Al-Lah are the ones speaking!
2. Al-Lah quotes Mad-ham-mu post statement as a revelation, so it's a Hadith not a revelation, Al-Lah is merely quoting the words of Mad-ham-mu and that's meant to be the revelation, so Al-Lah is quoting Mad-ham-mu to Mad-ham-mu to state what he's already stated!
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@youwhat491
Wrong! You've just rejected your Quran for a second time! You've just triggered 4:137! 😂 🤣
You've admitted now that Yasue is a Transliteration, which dictates that the correct name for Jesus in Arabic is Yasue, and that Isa is a made up name, but you forgot, in Quran Isa is the Name given to Isa by Al-Lah, so your own Quran has exposed and busted your fallacy, and itself, your Al-Lah, and your pagan Sabian!
😂 🤣
And you've rejected 3:55 which claims your Isa was Crucified, died, and resurrected, so Yasue is befitting! 😂 🤣
And you still failed to deal with the fact that your Quran claims the wrong time period and tribe!....
Go on, provide a single reference/verse in the entire Bible that mentions Jesus being called Esau, being incarnate at the time of Moses, being from the tribe of Levi,
In fact, provide a single Quranic reference that affirms the genealogy of Isa, and while you're at it, your pagan Sabian too, go on, prove he's a descendant of Ishmael! 😂 🤣
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@generaljg4373
I've read the Bible, and the Quran, and your Hadiths, and your Tafsirs, and a whole lot more, your cult is fraudulent, you don't even have a single reference to Jesus Christ in the Quran, or Christians, and there's no mention of ahmad/ahmed, Al-Lah, or Quran, in the entire Bible!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@adnancoovadia4282
Now you tell me abdool,
How can your Al-Lah share Al-Lah's "divine" attributes with all of creation, and not be guilty of shirk (associating creation with Al-Lah),
Al-Lah has just made all creation co equal with Al-Lah in "divinity", we're all a bit Al-Lah-ish, because you all claim the attribute of mercy is part of Al-Lah, your Al-Lah created Al-Lah's mercy, and shares Al-Lah's mercy as an attribute of creation (shirk)!.....Your Al-Lah has created attributes!
Abu Huraira reported:
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Allah created mercy in one hundred parts and He retained with Him ninety-nine parts, and He has sent down upon the earth one part, and it is because of this one part that there is mutual love among the creation so much so that the animal lifts up its hoof from its young one, fearing that it might harm it.
حَدَّثَنَا حَرْمَلَةُ بْنُ يَحْيَى التُّجِيبِيُّ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ وَهْبٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي يُونُسُ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، أَنَّ سَعِيدَ بْنَ الْمُسَيَّبِ، أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ سَمِعْتُرَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " جَعَلَ اللَّهُ الرَّحْمَةَ مِائَةَ جُزْءٍ فَأَمْسَكَ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعَةً وَتِسْعِينَ وَأَنْزَلَ فِي الأَرْضِ جُزْءًا وَاحِدًا فَمِنْ ذَلِكَ الْجُزْءِتَتَرَاحَمُ الْخَلاَئِقُ حَتَّى تَرْفَعَ الدَّابَّةُ حَافِرَهَا عَنْ وَلَدِهَا خَشْيَةَ أَنْ تُصِيبَهُ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2752 a
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 20
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6629 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Allah created one hundred (parts of mercy) and He distributed one amongst His creation and kept this one hundred excepting one with Himself (for the Day of Resurrection).
حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ أَيُّوبَ، وَقُتَيْبَةُ، وَابْنُ، حُجْرٍ قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ، - يَعْنُونَ ابْنَ جَعْفَرٍ - عَنِ الْعَلاَءِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِصلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " خَلَقَ اللَّهُ مِائَةَ رَحْمَةٍ فَوَضَعَ وَاحِدَةً بَيْنَ خَلْقِهِ وَخَبَأَ عِنْدَهُ مِائَةً إِلاَّ وَاحِدَةً " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2752 b
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 21
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6630 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
There are one hundred (parts of) mercy for Allah and He has sent down out of these one part of mercy upon the jinn and human beings and animals and the insects, and it is because of this (one part) that they love one another, show kindness to one another and even the beast treats its young one with affection, and Allah has reserved ninety nine parts of mercy with which He would treat His servants on the Day of Resurrection.
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ نُمَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْمَلِكِ، عَنْ عَطَاءٍ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مِائَةَرَحْمَةٍ أَنْزَلَ مِنْهَا رَحْمَةً وَاحِدَةً بَيْنَ الْجِنِّ وَالإِنْسِ وَالْبَهَائِمِ وَالْهَوَامِّ فَبِهَا يَتَعَاطَفُونَ وَبِهَا يَتَرَاحَمُونَ وَبِهَا تَعْطِفُ الْوَحْشُ عَلَى وَلَدِهَا وَأَخَّرَ اللَّهُ تِسْعًاوَتِسْعِينَ رَحْمَةً يَرْحَمُ بِهَا عِبَادَهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2752 c
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 22
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6631 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Salman Farisi reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Verily, there are one hundred (parts of) mercy for Allah, and it is one part of this mercy by virtue of which there is mutual love between the people and ninety-nine reserved for the Day of Resurrection.
حَدَّثَنِي الْحَكَمُ بْنُ مُوسَى، حَدَّثَنَا مُعَاذُ بْنُ مُعَاذٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ التَّيْمِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عُثْمَانَ النَّهْدِيُّ عَنْ سَلْمَانَ الْفَارِسِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِصلى الله عليه وسلم " إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مِائَةَ رَحْمَةٍ فَمِنْهَا رَحْمَةٌ بِهَا يَتَرَاحَمُ الْخَلْقُ بَيْنَهُمْ وَتِسْعَةٌ وَتِسْعُونَ لِيَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2753 a
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 23
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6632 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Salman reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said:
Verily, Allah created, on the same very day when He created the heavens and the earth, one hundred parts of mercy. Every part of mercy is coextensive with the space between the heavens. and the earth and He out of this mercy endowed one part to the earth and it is because of this that the mother shows affection to her child and even the beasts and birds show kindness to one another and when there would be the Day of Resurrection, Allah would make full (use of Mercy).
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ نُمَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي هِنْدٍ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ، عَنْ سَلْمَانَ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَلَقَيَوْمَ خَلَقَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ مِائَةَ رَحْمَةٍ كُلُّ رَحْمَةٍ طِبَاقَ مَا بَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ وَالأَرْضِ فَجَعَلَ مِنْهَا فِي الأَرْضِ رَحْمَةً فَبِهَا تَعْطِفُ الْوَالِدَةُ عَلَى وَلَدِهَاوَالْوَحْشُ وَالطَّيْرُ بَعْضُهَا عَلَى بَعْضٍ فَإِذَا كَانَ يَوْمُ الْقِيَامَةِ أَكْمَلَهَا بِهَذِهِ الرَّحْمَةِ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2753 c
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 25
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 663
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@alonzoharris6730
So you're saying the necessary properties of God to be 1 is to be a single hypostasis, and only 1 nature, that's a paradoxical oxymoron because you've just claimed there's 2 divinities as 1 divinity, but Al-Lah has 99, so you have 101 hypostatic Al-Lah's unified into 1 Al-Lah, that's assimilation, that means your Al-Lah is shirk, and as that's not the Trinity, the Trinity is 1 Divine Nature, so we worship 1 God Yahweh, you worship 101 assimilated Al-Lahs as 1 hypostasis, so who are all the Al-Lahs you worship!?! 😂
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@daniyalnaeem1404
Oh, and just for the record, the title "God" doesn't dictate or necessitate the same God....Our God has a Name, His Name is Yahweh/Jehovah, and seen as you're trying to hide behind Arabic, well now it's about to come back and bite you!...
Exodus 3:15 - Arabic translation!.....
وقال الله ايضا لموسى هكذا تقول لبني اسرائيل
👈يهوه👉 اله آبائكم اله ابراهيم واله اسحق واله يعقوب ارسلني اليكم. هذا اسمي الى الابد وهذا ذكري الى دور فدور.
Show me where ٱللَّهِ refers to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه (Jehovah)!
You can go to any translation you like, go to the manuscripts, all agree, so you've got nowhere to try run and hide from this! 😂 🤣
And before you try it, if you even think about claiming corruption, you end up rejecting 5:46-47, which affirms that the injil is the entire Bible, authentic, trustworthy, in the 7th century,
Our scripture, the entire Bible, the Canonisation, all pre dates 7th century, and you'd have to prove it by producing the injil or at least Waraqa's translation of the injil, again, from the 7th century!
Are you finally starting to realise now, that it was unwise to assume I'm as ignorant and lacking in hikmah as you!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
And do tell, the question has already been posed, you don't have the original Quran, your earliest reference to an Isa is the Tubingen, and that's from the time of Uthman as caliph, and Abu Isa the false prophet from persia was around at that time,
Prove Isa isn't Abu Isa, prove there's was a mention of an Isa from Mad-ham-mu himself, I mean, your Hadiths come along roughly 2 centuries later, you don't really have much of anything, except some big black holes in the narrative! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@aaronharun1394H
Show me the Biblical verse where Jesus stated He was a servant of Al-Lah and only a human prophet!
Show me where He stated he'd pay zakat!
Yoyve also affirmed that Esau said that he would die and live again, but then "they" differed about that concerning Esau, so that dictates Esau had to have died and resurrected, so you either accept 4:157 & 3:55 means Esau was Crucified, died, and resurrected, or 4:157 is an error and contradiction triggering 4:82!
You've also exposed a contradiction claimjng Al-Lah can't have a son, Al-Lah only has to say be and it is, but Al-Lah didn't say be in order to create Adam and Adam was, and Al-Lah claims to have male reproductive organs that Al-Lah would have to use in order to have a son, which adds the contradiction that Al-Lah has to have reproductive organs and to have a son like creation does, so Al-Lah is a likened to creation!
And finally, you say that God can not be a prophet, so you're admitting that Al-Lah can't be all knowing, can't give revelations, do you esnt have foresight, so if Al-Lah can't give prophesies as revelations to make prophets prophets, that dictates all your Quranic prophets are false as is Al-Lah! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@jxcess3891
Hahaha, as soon as I read the first part of your comment, before I even clicked "read more" I thought and was going to say that's the response I assumed he'd come with!
As you've witnessed numerous times now, he can't even defend that fallacy, second you start asking what makes a single hypostasis Divine he's stuck, starts appealing to minds, wills, instincts, which don't offer any sort of defence, if anything, they expose his fallacy more! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
You're seriously boring now, so, answer, does Hatun say that God is Triune, if so, define the words "Tri" and "Unity"!
Minds, instincts, persons, yada yada, are all irrelevant strawmen, I'm not asking about anything but Hatun's description of God, and what the definitions of 2 words are!
Fail to actually engage with the questions/points, and answer the questions, you are instantly exposed as being fallacious, and you've instantly lost any and all debates/discussions/interactions based on your fallacy!
Now answer!
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That's deplorable!
I don't care what colour a person is, no one should be a slave to anyone else!
What frustrates me most, is that the Government's of the world turn a blind eye all for the sake of fiat currency, economies, aka fake worthless money!
Life, health, wellbeing, and a safe secure environment to live rightfully as a free loved creation of God will always trump Money, power, control, and fake twisted cult ideologies!
That's why I'm not watching the World Cup this year, I won't support a slave trading Islamic state just because a group of men are going to compete in a sport for entertainment while there's people suffering and being enslaved!
Our God needs no slaves!
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@AlonzoHarris235
Actually Alonzo, I read the King James version from the first word of Genesis to the last word of Revelation, and I understood it clearly!.....
And seen as you claim to be a Biblical Scholar, want to provide the sources of your hilarious attempts at exegesis!...
Come now Alonzo, I'm ready and waiting, "I'm your teacher boy!" 😂🤣
Now, how about you tell us all about Alif Lam Ra, what's this mean, supposedly they're (Alif lam verses) claimed to be letters, but they're not letters, they're words ("Al-Ra"), same with the others, so what do these words mean Alonzo!?! 😂
And can you show me where the Bible makes the claim the quran does regarding being a clear book that explains everything!?!....
Why do you need Hadiths and Tafsirs, prove me wrong, Al-Ra who or what is Al-Ra!?! 😂
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@michaelknight6732
The definition is in a general context not a Theological or Philosophical context, and to claim otherwise dictates that the attributes you claim are unified, are seperate parts of Al-Lah, so your fallacy dictates you have 99 Al-Lah's, each attribute is an Al-Lah as you say an Al-Lah is attribute this, an Al-Lah is attribute that! 😂 🤣
I never said a person is a part, go back and read my response again abdool, I said in the context of the trinity the word is person in place of the word part!
Your fallacy completely backfires!
Here, we'll go with the definition of a person, Al-Lah is a person, but a person is human, so Al-Lah now has to be a human nature by definition!
Person definition:
A person (plural people or persons) is a being that has certain capacities or attributes such as reason, morality, consciousness or self-consciousness, and being a part of a culturally established form of social relations such as kinship, ownership of property, or legal responsibility.
A living human. Often used in combination....
An individual of specified character.
The composite of characteristics that make up an individual personality; the self.
Busted! 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
You believe in 3 Al-Lahs, Al-Lah, Al-Lahs spirit, and the third is the human vessel/conduit that Al-Lah switches out each Quranic prophet/messenger!.....
So you started with....
Al-Lah, Al-Lahs spirit, and Adam as the vessel/conduit to complete a Triunity,
Then Adam is switched out upon death, and this process is claimed to be a perpetual rinse and repeat switch out process until you reach Mad-ham-mu, and he's meant to be the last vessel/conduit,
So your Al-Lah after changing Al-Lah's nature each switch out with all Quranic prophets, including the 124,000, your Al-Lah is shirk central because Al-Lah has to keep associating Al-Lah with each vessel/conduit which expires, your Al-Lah has a partial expiry date, part of your Al-Lah is dead,
This messed up warped Triunity ISN'T "THE" Trinity, in "THE" Trinity, there's no switch outs, Eternally, our God always WAS & always WILL be, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit!
If you don't accept this, then your Al-Lah is 3 Al-Lahs!
Simple choice, 1 warped pagan Triune Al-Lah, or 3 seperate Al-Lahs, which is it!?!
Why do you reject your Al-Lah/s!?! 😂 🤣
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@djelalhassan7631
First of all, you don't get to dictate the standard and requirements in regards to Al-Lah's challenge beyond what the verses state, because unless you're Al-Lah, and unless it states the specifics you claim apply, then you're guilty of Bid'ah!....
Now, you think you can challenge me regarding surah 108 and in doing so prove my point by demanding I bring something "like it", well I already brought something better, but let's deal with 108.....
You claim the surah has frequency of linguistic devices, literary features, aswel as maximum expression in meaning within 10 words, and in a unique structure!
Let's see!.....
108
Indeed, We have granted you abundance
So pray to your Lord and sacrifice.
Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off.
Well, first off, there's just over double the number of words that you claimed (21 not 10)!
Wheres the frequency in linguistic devices exactly!?!
A linguistic device simply put is just words/phrases that convey a meaning!.....(add something special/original to the writing, give more information using fewer words, persuade/engage the reader, communicate the idea in a precise way, help the reader visualise a scene)!
So, in 108 we get nothing original, special, or new, it doesn't give anyone anymore information using fewer words, it doesn't convey a message in a precise way (who has given abundance to who, pray to who, sacrifice what, who is the enemy, what are they cut off from?),
This also covers "literary feature"!
It's now evident that by default the surah in no way has maximum expression as a result of the above!
And finally, you claim unique structure, just by reading the verse its evident there's nothing unique about the structure, it's simplistic and basic at best, anyone could and have constructed similar and way more complex verses, my initial surah is proof and evidence of that, and tick all the requirements for use of linguistic devices!
So you've actually now helped not only prove and strengthen my point, but that my surah has not only met, but surpassed the challenge set by your Al-Lah!
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You all need to wake up!....
You're all so ignorant!
This is Islam!....
Islam IS the problem!.....
You (UK, Europe, America aka the West) all are reaping what you've sown!.....
I challenge any of you to challenge me, try and refute me, Hamas, ISIS, etc etc, ALL are acting in accordance to the quran, hadiths, and tafsirs (quranic commentaries)!
Mohammed Hijab is a nobody, an ignoramus, he wouldn't dare debate me, because I'm not as ignorant as Piers Morgan!
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@SamA-xu9gy
And while I'm waiting for your repetition, here's why you can't find your Mad-ham-mu Rasoul Al-Shaytan in our Scripture!....
Deuteronomy - Torah!
Deuteronomy 18:18-22
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.
And I will hold accountable anyone who does not listen to My words that the prophet speaks in My Name. But if any prophet dares to speak a message in My Name that I have not commanded him to speak, or to speak in the name of other gods, that prophet must be put to death.”
You may ask in your heart,
“How can we recognize a message that יְהוָֽה׃ (Yahweh) has not spoken?”
When a prophet speaks in the Name of יְהוָ֗ה (Yahweh) and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message יְהוָ֑ה (Yahweh) has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
Al-Lah isn't Yahweh!
Dispute this, then show me where ٱللَّهِ refers to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه (Jehovah)/الرب - Yahweh - Al-Rabu - God
Ishmaleites aren't brothers of the Israelites!
Genesis 37:27
Come, let us sell him to the Ishmaelites, and let not our hand be upon him, for he is our brother, our own flesh.” And his brothers listened to him.
Judges 8:18-19
Then he said to Zebah and Zalmunna, “Where are the men whom you killed at Tabor?” They answered,👉 “As you are, so were they.👈 Every one of them resembled the son of a king.”
And he said, 👉“They were my brothers, the sons of my mother.👈 As 👉יְהוָ֗ה (Yahweh) Lives👈, if you had saved them alive, I would not kill you.”
Judges 8:22-24
Then 👉the men of Israel👈 said to Gideon, “Rule over us, you and your son and your grandson also, for
👉 you have saved us from the hand of Midian.”👈
Gideon said to them, “I will not rule over you, and my son will not rule over you;
👉Yahweh (יְהוָ֖ה) will rule over you.”👈
And Gideon said to them, “Let me make a request of you: every one of you give me the earrings from his spoil.”
(For they had golden earrings,
because 👉they were Ishmaelites👈.)
Then the men of Israel said to Gideon, “Rule over us, you and your son and your grandson also, for 👉you have saved us from the hand of Midian.”👈
Ishmaelites is a broad term for the likes of the Amalekites, Midianites (Arabs) etc!
Ishmaelites aren't brothers/brethren of Israelites because the Midianites would too be recognised as brethren! Judges proves they aren't!
Midianites are Arabs, they descend from Midian NOT Ishmael!
If muhammad was a descendant from Abraham he could only be a Midianites identified under the broad term as an ishmaelite, but so were all Midianites/Arabs!
If a descendant of Ishmael then his father Abdullah would have to be Jordanian, Jordanian Ishmaelite descendants did inter marry with Midianites, and that would mean muhammad couldn't be an Arabian Midianite Arab by birth, which contradicts muhammad claiming to be a descendant from Ishmael!
Isaiah - Nevi'im!
'Ata' ibn Yasar said, "I met 'Abdullah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'As and I said, 'Tell me about the description of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, 👉in the Torah.'👈 'Yes,' he said, 'By Allah, 👉he is described in the Torah👈 partly as he is described in the Qur'an:
"O Prophet, We have sent you as a witness, a bearer of good news and a warner and a protection to the unlettered. You are My slave and Messenger. 👉I have called you the trusty one who is neither coarse nor harsh nor loud in the markets👈. 👉Allah Almighty will not take him until He has made the crooked community straight by him👈 so that they say, "There is no god but Allah," and by it they will open blind eyes, deaf ears and covered hearts.'"
Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صـحـيـح (الألباني) حكم :
Reference: Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 246
In-book reference: Book 12, Hadith 9
English translation: Book 12, Hadith 246
Narrated Ata bin Yasar:
I met `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-`As and asked him, "Tell me about the description of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) which is mentioned in
👉Torah (i.e. Old Testament.")👈He replied, 'Yes. By Allah, 👉he is described in Torah👈 with some of the qualities attributed to him in the Qur'an as follows: "O Prophet ! We have sent you as a witness (for Allah's True religion) And a giver of glad tidings (to the faithful believers), And a warner (to the unbelievers) And guardian of the illiterates. You are My slave and My messenger (i.e. Apostle). I have named you "Al-Mutawakkil" (who depends upon Allah).
👉You are neither discourteous, harsh Nor a noisemaker in the markets And you do not do evil to those Who do evil to you, but you deal With them with forgiveness and kindness.👈 👉Allah will not let him (the Prophet) Die till he makes straight the crooked people👈 by making them say: "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah," With which will be opened blind eyes And deaf ears and enveloped hearts."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2125
In-book reference: Book 34, Hadith 77
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 3, Book 34, Hadith 335 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Calling the entire Tanakh the Torah dictates and proves that the Injil is the entire Bible as per 5:46 because 5:46 claims the injil contains the Torah aka incorrectly claimed to be the entire OT/Tanakh!
Isaiah - 42:1-4
“Here is My Servant, whom I uphold,
My Chosen One, in whom My soul delights.
👉I will put My Spirit on Him👈,
👉and He will bring justice to the nations.👈
👉He will not cry out or raise His voice, nor make His voice heard in the streets.👈
👉A bruised reed He will not break
and a smoldering wick He will not extinguish;
He will faithfully bring forth justice.👈
👉He will not grow weak or discouraged
before He has established justice on the earth. In His law the islands will put their hope.”👈
Cross Reference:
Matthew 12:20
👉A bruised reed He will not break, and a smoldering wick He will not extinguish, till He leads justice to victory.👈
Isaiah - 42:13
👉(Yahweh) יְהוָה֙ goes forth like a mighty One;
He stirs up His zeal like a warrior.
He shouts; yes, He roars
in triumph over His enemies:👈
Isaiah 53:1-5
👉Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of יְהוָ֖ה (Yahweh) been revealed?👈
He grew up before Him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no stately form or majesty to attract us, no beauty that we should desire Him.
He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief.
Like one from whom men hide their faces,
He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.
Surely He took on our infirmities
and carried our sorrows;
yet we considered Him stricken by God,
struck down and afflicted.
👉But He was pierced for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him,
and by His stripes we are healed.👈
Isaiah 53:7
He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet He did not open His mouth.
👉He was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so He did not open His mouth.👈
Isaiah 53:9-11
He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with a rich man in His death,
although 👉He had done no violence,👈
👉nor was any deceit in His mouth.👈
Yet it was וַיהוָ֞ה (Yahweh's) will to crush Him
and to cause Him to suffer;
and when His soul is made a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, and the good pleasure of יְהוָ֖ה (Yahweh) will prosper in His Hand.
👉After the anguish of His soul,
He will see the light of life and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant will justify many, and 👉He will bear their iniquities.👈
Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call Him Immanuel.
Matthew 1:21-23
She will give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins.”
All this took place to fulfill what the Lord (Κυρίου - Kyriou) had said through the prophet:
“Behold, the virgin will be with child
and will give birth to a son,
and they will call Him Immanuel ( Ἐμμανουήλ,
Emmanouēl)”
(which means, “God with us”).
Emmanouél
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Emmanuel.
Of Hebrew origin (Immanuw'el); God with us; Emmanuel, a name of Christ -- Emmanuel.
Thayers Greek Lexicon
Immanuel (from עִמָּנוּ and אֵל; God with us), equivalent to savior.
According to the orthodox interpretation the name denotes the same as θεανθρωπος, and has reference to the personal union of the human nature and the divine in Christ.
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Song of Solomon - Ketuvim!
Song of Solomon 5:16
His mouth is most sweet; he is altogether lovely. This is my מַחֲּמַדִּ֑ים (ma-ḥă-mad-dîm;), and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.
machmad
maḥ-maḏ
ma-ḥă-mad-dîm;
ma·ḥă·mad·dê-
ma-ḥă-mad-de-hā
ma-ḥă-mad-dê-nū
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from chamad
Definition
desire, desirable thing
Strong's Concordance
chamad: to desire, take pleasure in
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Definition
to desire, take pleasure in
NASB Translation & Word Usage
attracted, covet, coveted, delight, took great delight, desirable, desire, desired, desires, pleasing, pleasant, precious, precious things, precious ones, precious treasures, treasures, valuable.
Examples if using the word for the name Muhammad
1 Kings 20:6
But about this time tomorrow I will send my servants to search your palace and the houses of your servants. They will seize and carry away all that is מַחְמַ֣ד (maḥ-maḏ) to you.’ ”
Lamentations 2:4
He has bent His bow like an enemy; His right hand is positioned. Like a foe He has killed all who were מַחֲמַדֵּי־ (ma-ḥă-mad-dê-) to the eye; He has poured out His wrath like fire on the tent of the Daughter of Zion.
Hosea 9:6
For even if they flee destruction, Egypt will gather them and Memphis will bury them. Their מַחְמַ֣ד (maḥ-maḏ) silver will be taken over by thistles, and thorns will overrun their tents.
Hosea 9:16
Ephraim is struck down; their root is withered; they cannot bear fruit. Even if they bear children, I will slay the מַחֲמַדֵּ֥י (ma-ḥă-mad-dê) of their wombs.
2 Chronicles 36:19
Then they burned the house of God, broke down the wall of Jerusalem, burned all its palaces with fire, and destroyed all its מַחֲמַדֶּ֖יהָ (ma-ḥă-mad-de-hā) possessions.
Isaiah 64:11
Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our מַחֲמַדֵּ֖ינוּ (ma-ḥă-mad-dê-nū) things are laid waste.
And let's deal with the NT claims too while we're at it!...
John 14:16-17
And 👉I will ask the Father👈, and he will give you another Helper,
👉to be with you forever,👈
the Spirit of truth. 👉The world cannot receive Him👈, because it 👉neither sees Him nor knows Him👈. But you do know Him, for 👉He abides with you👈 and
👉will be in you👈.
Was Muhammad with & in the Disciples forever!? 😂 🤣
John 16:7-8
But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go,
👉I will send Him to you.👈
John 16:13-15
However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 👉He will glorify Me👈 by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you.
👉Everything that belongs to the Father is Mine👈. That is why I said that the Spirit will take from what is Mine and disclose it to you.
How are both The Father & Jesus sending the Holy Spirit if Jesus isn't Co Equal!?! 🤔
Does muhammad Glorify Jesus!?! 😂
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@northstar1690
You don't know Jack diddly squat about plants!....
A male plant flowers once mature in order to release pollen to pollinate female plants!
A female plant flowers in order to be pollinated, because the plant is mature enough to produce offspring (seeds (children))!
The verse/translation states, "passing the flower of her age", this dictates no longer being in her prime, like say at 40 you wouldn't be in your prime like when you were 20,
The fact the "flower" would be referred to as a virgin, meaning untouched by man, this is irrelevant in regards to age/maturity, so the verse is stating that if a mature woman who has remained chaste but is past her prime and she/a man wish to marry, then there's no sin in doing so!....
So, Nature has just exposed and refuted you!
As does 1 Corinthians 7:38!
Now, 4:3 & 65:4 are explicitly clear, 4:3 uses the Arabic word for children!
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@alonzoharris6730
You said the Quran is your criteria, so it's funny how you're appealing to sources outside of the Quran, this proves the Quran fails as a criteria source! 😂 🤣
And I find it interesting that you now appeal to the genealogy in the Gospel of Luke, because you only dispute the genealogy in Matthew, yet your sources claim Matthew is a messenger of Isa/Esau/Al-Lah, but none claim or accept Luke!.....
And how about you show us the genealogy of Isa/Esau in the Quran to back up your claim against Matthew!.....
Where's Muhammad's genealogy too, how about the genealogies of the claimed Biblical Prophets, and what about the 124,000 prophets, who are they, what are their names, what are their genealogies!?!.....
How about al-khidr!?!....
Surely all this can be answered and resolved by just quoting the Quranic references, so come on, educate me, prove the Quran, your cult, your Al-Lah, your pagan Sabian, had even a clue about any of these pieces of relevant information that would help support its claims!
I can't wait to read all these Quranic verses! 😂 🤣
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@reggieburkes4471
Yeah if you read 7:155-157 it's all at the time of Moses, and the injil is claimed to be present, wherever the injil is, Isa is, Isa can't be without Maryam being around at that time to give birth to him,
So now the abdools have to prove Jesus, Mary, and a written book called injil, which by the way is the entire Bible (5:46) not just a single Gospel, or the NT, at the time of Moses, also, they need to show us a single verse where the Quran states Yasue Al-Masih (Jesus the Messiah), also they need to prove Jesus was a Levite, which they can't, they don't have a genealogy for Isa, both genealogies in Matthew and Luke affirm Jesus is from Judah not Levi,
And finally, they need to show us where Al-Lah refers to Al-Lah as Yahweh, Arabic translation of scripture upholds this point (Exodus 3:15), as does the Quran by stealing the name Zachariah (Yahweh Remembers), otherwise the Quran has major errors that instantly bust Isa as not being Jesus, and Al-Lah can't be Yahweh, but there's shirk in the Quran and Al-Lah is the guilty party, and if Jesus isn't in the Quran, then as Christians, we reject it outright and their pagan Sabian numbskull is exposed and busted!
The burden of proof is upon the abdools not us! 😂 🤣
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@youwhat491
If you're claiming the Angel of God in Revelation 1:1 to be Gabriel, then that means Jesus is God in Revelation 1:1, also, your claim would mean that Gabriel would now too be declaring Gabriel is God in Genesis 31:13, but this doesn't change Triunity, you've just now made a claim that goes against Christian claims/Theology and the quran, go on, provide the quran verse that claims the Trinity to be Yahweh the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and Gabriel the Holy Spirit!
Let me help you out, you're in a catch 22 right now, regardless of what answer you give or how you try to appeal to and rely on Taqiyya and ignorance, Jesus is Yahweh aka God!
And Al-Lah ISN'T Yahweh, so your entire cult has just been exposed and busted!
But by all means, you keep trying!
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@youwhat491
You've just exposed and busted your Quran, the word Christian literally means follower/party of Christ, and the word Nasara referred to origin aka geographical location aka Nasareth, and Arab Christians in the 7th century weren't all from Nasareth, and by that time, by your own admission, the word Christian was established, accepted, and there's an Arabic word for Christian which isn't Nasara!
So thank you for exposing and busting your cult for me, aswel as affirming my point! 😂 🤣
Same as you can't be an Arab just because you're a muslim if you're from India, Pakistan, China, Turkey, Africa,
In the UK you all call yourselves British Muslims not British Arabs or Arab Muslims! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@youwhat491
Oh you want to play semantics, no problem, how about you bring up the reference that states only the opening suras with disjointed letters came as a bell sound!
And while you're at it, show me where I stated the inspiration is claimed to be a literal physical bell!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I know what Hadith you're appealing to, but that's 1 out of 6, and I can make my voice sound like a bell,
Ding dong! Ding dong!
Now my voice sounds like a bell, translate it into Arabic, let's even go with disjointed letters, now, what did I just say, is that inspiration for you, am I now proven a prophet!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@aaronharun1394H
God of Abraham and scripture isn't Al-Lah the self proclaimed moon god as per the Quranic declaration!
You don't even know when your Al-Lah is openly declaring, stating, and admitting Al-Lah is a specific moon god!
Now I ask you, if I can show you this, explicitly, without any ambiguity, would you remain a muslim worshipping a pagan moon god!?!
Mr, you need to take this seriously now, I'm not trying to score points or play childish games, so please answer my question, then I will show you!
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@SamA-xu9gy ntha
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@SamA-xu9gy ntha
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@alonzoharris6730
Oh, and seen as you like to randomly change topics, instead, I'll ADD a topic to the current one, your Quran contradicts and proves that all the Quranic prophets aren't prophets, I'm not talking about 22:52 & 39:37, there's another contradiction repeated throughout your Quran, and it's imbedded in your Doctrine/Theology, your Hadiths, Tafsirs, and promoted by your Scholars!
Your own Quran claims your Muhammad can't be a prophet!
😂 🤣 🤣
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@aliboratdawah7365
Sorry, only just saw your response to me, yeah I was thinking exactly that when you mentioned about everyone piling in, our Brothers and Sisters, whilst understandable, with their passion and love for our Lord, need to consider leaving this particular individual to us, not out of arrogance thinking we're better, but because we're more familiar with him and know how to handle him, and whilst I can come across and appear arrogant, it's not arrogance, it's confidence, experience, and a tried/tested strategy he can't handle or cope with, I simply expose his fallacies & turn the tables on him instantly, and he can't turn them back without getting his cult busted and himself busted!
My comments always start mounting up when he's piling on the fallacies in response to others, and I feel compelled to then have to deal with those fallacies aswel!
And dont forget, what part of his strategy is, is to test out his fallacies, and everytime our Brothers and Sisters start piling in and responding, he's strategising how to best manipulate any less skilled Christians that aren't prepared or experienced in dealing with his fallacies,
So they're sadly assisting and helping him deceive and pick off any Christians that are less knowledgeable and skilled, make a mockery of our Lord and them, and some can easily be misled into taking the shahada!
But with us, he fails, he hits brick walls, and that means his fallacies remain untested, and he's then easily caught out when engaging with other less skilled Brothers and Sisters!
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FAO Farid!...
Al-Jawab As-Sahih
Sheikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah
Ibn Kathir Tafsir (Arabic) 3:56
Al-Lah recounted their articles in the Qur’an, and he responded to each group, so they continued to do so close to three hundred years,
وقد حكى الله مقالاتهم في القرآن، ورد على كل فريق، فاستمروا على ذلك قريباً من ثلثمائة سنة،
Farid, your scholars not only affirm the preservation of our Scripture, but also the Disciples/Apostles, and the early Churchfathers, which by default affirms and authenticates their publications/works, aswel as Christianity!
Now, here's what I want you (Farid) to prove to me/us......
Prove that Jesus Christ, Incarnate, with a book called injil, and all the Prophets before His Incarnation, along with Christians, were all around during the time of Moses (7:155-157)!
Show us a single Christian Scholar who've ever made that claim!
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@alonzoharris6730
Wrong! I never said "by" was in the verse, the word Chazaq, which is the primitive root, itself dictates the strength comes from God, so Hezekiah can't be the One referred to!.......
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
2388. chazaq
aid, amend, catch, cleave, confirm, be constant, constrain,
Brown-Driver-Briggs - חָזַק - 291
verb be or grow firm, strong, strengthen
2396. Chizqiyyah or Chizqiyyahu or Yechizqiyyah or Yechizqiyyahu
Brown-Driver-Briggs
חִזְקִיָּ֫הוּ, חִזְקִיָּה, יְחִזְקִיָּהוּ, יְחִזְקִיָּה
proper name, masculine (׳י hath strengthened, ׳י stengtheneth
also Hezekiah was already reigning as king, and Jeremiah 17:11 proves Yalad is future tense also as it's used to refer to "hatches" NOT "has hatched"! 😂 🤣 🤣
And Tovia Singer busted your cult affirming Isa is from Levi not Judah so can't be the Messiah, can't be Jesus Christ, who is Isa!?! 😂 🤣
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The Unitarian tried to appeal to Acts 7:30-32 to try and justify his heresy,
He claims the Angel of God that appeared during the burning bush event wasn't Jesus, and that this unknown angel can speak as the Father but not be the Father,
But as we see/read below, the VOICE Moses heard was that of Yahweh, and as already accepted by the Unitarian, it's the Angel of God speaking!
Busted!!! 😂🤣🤣
Acts 7:30-32
After forty years had passed,
👉an angel appeared to Moses in the flames of a burning bush👈 in the desert near Mount Sinai.
When Moses saw it, he marveled at the sight. As he approached to look more closely,
👉the voice of the Lord came to him: ‘I am the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.’👈 Moses trembled with fear and did not dare to look.
Now, I challenge this Unitarian to answer us this....
The same Angel of God again explicitly states that He is God in Genesis 31:13!
Revelation 1:1, Jesus has to be either God or the Angel of God referred to in Acts 7:30-32 & spoke in Genesis 31:13!
So is Jesus God or the Angel of God!?!
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@daniyalnaeem1404
You mean, like this!....
4:3
وَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تُقۡسِطُواْ فِي 👈ٱلۡيَتَٰمَىٰ👉 فَٱنكِحُواْ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ مَثۡنَىٰ وَثُلَٰثَ وَرُبَٰعَۖ فَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تَعۡدِلُواْ فَوَٰحِدَةً أَوۡ مَا مَلَكَتۡ أَيۡمَٰنُكُمۡۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَلَّا تَعُولُواْ
English Transliteration
Wa-in khiftum alla tuqsitoo
👉feealyatama👈 fankihoo ma tabalakum mina annisa-i mathna wathulathawarubaAAa fa-in khiftum alla taAAdiloo fawahidatanaw ma malakat aymanukum thalika adnaalla taAAooloo
Ya-Ta-Miim = orphan, fatherless, become isolated or lonely, solitary, weary, jaded, become widow,
👉become without father before puberty/maturity.👈
yatim n.m. (pl. yatama) 2:83, 2:177, 2:215, 2:220, 4:2, 👉4:3👈, 4:6, 4:8, 4:10, 4:36, 4:127, 4:127, 6:152, 8:41, 17:34, 18:82, 59:7, 76:8, 89:17, 90:15, 93:6, 93:9, 107:2
Sahih International
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Yeah, still laughing now, BOY!?!
You like your Al-Lah and pagan Sabian Mahound commanding you to marry Little orphan girls without age limit, so new borns are fair game in your cult!
Can't deny Aisha's age now!
Now we know why the grooming gangs are only doing what your Quran commands them to!
Proud of that, yeah!?!
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@daniyalnaeem1404
Tell us, how did Al-Lah create the horse that sweat to create Al-Lah if Al-Lah is one, what was Al-Lah creating and what was Al-Lah while creating Al-Lah,
How can Al-Lah create Al-Lah Al-Lah's self and be eternal, uncreated!
Was Al-Lah the horse and then created Al-Lah from Al-Lah's own sweat, does this sound befitting for a god that's one, alone, uncreated, eternal!?!
Was the horse not eternal too if it was created before Al-Lah in order for Al-Lah to be created from the horse sweat, who created the horse!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
Surah Zilzal tafseer
Hadith related by Imam Suyuti which states:
“When God Almighty wanted to create Himself, He created the horse first and let it gallop till it sweated. Then He created Himself from its sweat.
Abu Hurayra narrated:
It was said, “O Messenger of God, from what is our Lord?
He said, “From water not of earth, nor of the heavens. He created a horse and made it run. It sweated, and he created himself from that sweat.”
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@daniyalnaeem1404
And abdool, for 9:29 I don't need to go to Arabic lexicons or scholars,
The fact the word Al-Lah is in 9:29, that's the issue, that's what busts your Al-Lah!
Why do we need to believe in Al-Lah if Al-Lah is meant to be, as claimed, the one who sent our scripture!?!
The inky discrepancy would be Muhammad!
So, 9:29 affirms that we never worshipped your Al-Lah, which means your Al-Lah isn't our God, isn't God of Abraham, our scripture, our Prophets, us!
That means Isa isn't Jesus Christ!
Who is Isa!?!
And show me Yasue Al-Masih in the Quran! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@AlonzoHarris235
Now now, you're not jumping anywhere, you want to try and refute Christianity, well here's your chance, prove 7:155-157 true, there, job would be done, so, bring the evidence, oh, and my argument is academic because it's coming from your scholars, unless you're discrediting all your scholars and declaring there's no academia when it comes to your cult!?! 😂
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@tariqthebiblicalscholar5865
And let's not forget, 3:55 is where you get the explanation in regards to 4157-158!.....
3:55
Arabic:
إِذۡ قَالَ ٱللَّهُ يَٰعِيسَىٰٓ إِنِّي 👈مُتَوَفِّيكَ👉 وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ وَجَاعِلُ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّبَعُوكَ فَوۡقَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓاْ إِلَىٰ يَوۡمِ ٱلۡقِيَٰمَةِۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرۡجِعُكُمۡ فَأَحۡكُمُ بَيۡنَكُمۡ فِيمَا كُنتُمۡ فِيهِ تَخۡتَلِفُونَ
English Transliteration
Ith qala Allahu yaAAeesa innee
👉mutawaffeeka👈 warafiAAuka ilayya wamutahhirukamina allatheena kafaroo wajaAAilu allatheenaittabaAAooka fawqa allatheena kafaroo ila yawmialqiyamati thumma ilayya marjiAAukum faahkumubaynakum feema kuntum feehi takhtalifoon
Root:
Waw-Fa-Ya = to reach the end, keep ones promise, fulfil ones engagement, pay a debt, perform a promise. tawaffa - to die. wafaat - death.
👉Mutawaffiika (ap-der. m. sing. V.): Cause you to die a natural death.👈
Sahih International
[Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed (You're Dead - مُتَوَفِّيكَ) I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.
Yusuf Ali
Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! (You're Dead - مُتَوَفِّيكَ) I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
Pickthall
(And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! (You're Dead - مُتَوَفِّيكَ) I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then unto Me ye will (all) return, and I shall judge between you as to that wherein ye used to differ.
Qadianis say that the word mutawaffeeka in Quran 3:55 and tawaffaitani in Quran 5:117 speak of the death of Isa and they translate the verses as;
“Lo! God said:`O Jesus! Verily I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto me...” (3:55)
"I said to them naught save as Thou didst command me: 'Serve God, my Lord and your Lord.'; and I was a witness of them so long as I was among them, but when Thou didst cause me to die Thou wast the Watcher over them. And Thou art Witness of all things.'” (5:117)
Islamic Translation:
Quran 3:55 informs believers that Allah will “take back” Jesus (PBUH), protect him from the unbelievers, and raise him to His presence. Many great Islamic scholars and commentators have interpreted this verse to mean that Isa did die. As the verse states:
إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنْتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ
“When Allah said: ‘O Isa , I am to take you in full (mutawaffeeka) and to raise you towards Myself, and to cleanse you of those who disbelieve, and to place those who follow you above those who disbelieve up to the Day of Doom. Then to Me is your return, whereupon I shall judge between you in that over which you have differed.’” (3:55)
The part requiring special consideration is the sentence; “I will take you back (mutawaffeeka) and raise you up to Me.”
And indeed Quran 5:117 also goes along the same lines.
مَا قُلْتُ لَهُمْ إِلَّا مَا أَمَرْتَنِي بِهِ أَنِ اعْبُدُوا اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ وَكُنْتُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًا مَا دُمْتُ فِيهِمْ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيْتَنِي كُنْتَ أَنْتَ الرَّقِيبَ عَلَيْهِمْ وَأَنْتَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ
"I have not said to them anything but what You have ordered me to say, that is, 'Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord‘ and I was a witness over them as long as I was with them. But when You recalled me (tawaffaitani), You were the One watching over them. You are a witness over everything." (5:117)
A close examination reveals, the word translated into English as “to die”, from the Arabic root waffaa derived from the verb tawaffaa, means death, taking the soul, or surrender.
Meaning of tawaffa:
Linguistically:
Ibn Taymiyya said:
التوفى فى لغة العرب معناها القبض والاستيفاء وذالك ثلاثه انواع أحدها التوفى فى النوم والثانى توفى الموت والثالث وتوفى الروح والبدن جميعاٌ
"Al-tawaffa in the Arabic language means: to exact fully or take in full. It takes three forms; the first: to take in sleep; the second: to take in death; and the third: to take the body and soul all together." (Al-Jawab Al-Sahih 2/83)
In Kulliyat Abu Al-Baqa it is stated:
التوفى الاماته وقبض الروح وعليه استعمال العامه او الاستيفاء واخذ الحق وعليه استعمال البلغاء
"Tawaffa is putting to death and extracting the soul in common usage while in the classical usage it is 'taking in full’ and 'exacting the due right.'”
Quranic usage:
اللَّهُ يَتَوَفَّى الْأَنْفُسَ حِينَ مَوْتِهَا وَالَّتِي لَمْ تَمُتْ فِي مَنَامِهَا فَيُمْسِكُ الَّتِي قَضَى عَلَيْهَا الْمَوْتَ وَيُرْسِلُ الْأُخْرَى إِلَى أَجَلٍ مُسَمًّى إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لَآَيَاتٍ لِقَوْمٍ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ
"Allah fully takes away (yatawaffaa) the souls (of the people) at the time of their death (mawtiha), and (of) those who do not die (lam tamut), in their sleep. Then He withholds those on whom He had decreed death (al-mawt), and sends others back, up to an appointed term. Surely, in this, there are signs for a people who ponder." (Quran 39: 42)
The word here translated as “taking back” is the same as that used in Qur’an 3:55 and 5:117: tawaffaa. The word yatawaffaa here refers to death & taking the soul at night.
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@1541965
How about I educate you!....
John Chapter 17 Jesus affirms His name is Yahweh!
Genesis 31:13, Jesus declares He is God explicitly!
Now as for your Arabic translation of the Bible fallacy, Quran 1:1 Al-Lah is a name not a title!
And Exodus 3:15 exposes and busts your ignorance, the ignorance of your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian dunce, your cult book, and you!......
Exodus 3:15 - Arabic translation!.....
وقال الله ايضا لموسى هكذا تقول لبني اسرائيل
👈يهوه👉 اله آبائكم اله ابراهيم واله اسحق واله يعقوب ارسلني اليكم. هذا اسمي الى الابد وهذا ذكري الى دور فدور.
Now show me in the Quran where ٱللَّهِ refers to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه!....
Zachariah means Yahweh Remembers, so fail to resolve this, and you have shirk in the Quran, and Al-Lah als
And where in the Quran does it mention يسوع المسيح (Yasue Al-Masih (Yeshua the Messiah))!?!
Show me in the Quran the genealogy of Isa the Levite son of Maryam nephew of Moses from the time of Moses (7:155-157 & 19:28)!
Isa means Esau in Arabic, so show me Esau son of Maryam nephew of Moses in the Bible while you're at it!
Fail to engage and deal with this respinse, then it is evident and proven your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, and Quran are all busted as frauds/fraudulent!
😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
Let's play your fallacy out, just for fun,
So you think and claim the Trinity = 3 Gods because there's 3 Hypostasis unified, so the hypostasis is what makes the hypostasis God, nothing else, but the hypostasis aren't unified into one hypostasis, so what is it that's unified!?!.....
Same question applies to your Al-Lah, if your Al-Lah is one single hypostasis, is that what now makes Al-Lah a god, I'm a single hypostasis, as are you, as are we all, so aren't we all now Al-Lahs!?!....
And how can Al-Lah now be tawheed/unified oneness, there's only a single hypostasis, you can't unify 1 single hypostasis, unification requires at least one other something to unify with the something in order for unification to be able to take place!?!
Stuck now aren't you! 😂 🤣
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@nobodynobody4389
Don't read it then! It's not intended for, or even addressed to you, so stop fretting about it! 😂 🤣 🤣
And for the record, I've repeated it in other threads, your tldr is noted, got it, don't need you to respond to every single comment stating the same, ok, happy now, you are not obliged to read my comments, and if you so choose not to, I don't need you to update me as to why, I honestly couldn't give a toot boot hoot! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
15:58-66, your Al-Lah claims to be 3 disconnected independant creations, and they're all inheriting in 28:58, so is Al-Lah 3 or 4 Al-Lah's, who do these Al-Lahs inherit from, is it the 5th Al-Lah that they all pray to (33:56) in order for Muhammad to receive blessings, and how do you distinguish between Al-Lah 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, and is it the 5 Al-Lah hypostasis' that are Ahad in 112:1?!
🤔 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Jesus Prayed To Allah Matthew 26:39
Hahahaha! Is this the best you could muster! IQRA! IQRA! IQRA!....
No Christian has ever claimed Al-Lah the pagan moon demon, Isa the claimed pagan Levite nephew of Moses, or Maryam from the time of Moses, have anything to do with the Trinity!
Who is Isa the Levite nephew of Moses, show me the Biblical verse!..
Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril
Life Of Isa
Page 1
Prophet Isa's Mentioned is noted in 10 different situations in the Quran. There is even an entire chapter (surah) named after Isa's mother, Maryam alyaha salam, as well as his grandparents Al-Imran alayahum asalam, who were chosen over all mankind. This Surat, Surat Al-Imran also reveals the story of Maryam alyaha salam, it outlines a description of her lineage and upbringing. It also relates the pure conception and birth of Isa alayhe salam.
Where's the Holy Spirit, want to try squeeze the Holy Spirit in, then you have 4 hypostasis not 3, and to claim 3 gods isn't the trinity either!
Now show me one verse where it correctly describes the Trinity!
Show me one verse that mentions Yasue Al-Masih!
Ignoramus Abdoolus Maximus!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Come on, bring your proof! 😂 🤣 🤣
Ahmed Deedat - The Choice Vol 1 & 2 - Page 52
Deedat claims Isa is a translation of Esau NOT Yeshua which translated in English is Jesus! BOOM! that's your Isa and scrapbook busted again, along with your Da'if Deedat!
😂 🤣 🤣
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65:4
Arabic:
وَٱلَّٰٓـِٔي يَئِسۡنَ مِنَ ٱلۡمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمۡ إِنِ ٱرۡتَبۡتُمۡ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلَٰثَةُ أَشۡهُرٖ 👈وَ👉ٱلَّٰٓـِٔي لَمۡ👉يَحِضۡنَۚ وَأُوْلَٰتُ ٱلۡأَحۡمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعۡنَ حَمۡلَهُنَّۚ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجۡعَل لَّهُۥ مِنۡ أَمۡرِهِۦ يُسۡرٗا
English Transliteration
Walla-ee ya-isna mina almaheedimin nisa-ikum ini irtabtum faAAiddatuhunna thalathatuashhurin 👉walla-ee lam👈 yahidna waolatual-ahmali ajaluhunna an yadaAAna hamlahunnawaman yattaqi Allaha yajAAal lahu min amrihi yusra
Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, 👉and [also for]👈 those who have 👉not👈 menstruated👈. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Khan & al-Hilali
And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months,
👉and👈 for those who have no courses 👉[(i.e. they are still immature)👈 their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.
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65:4 Tafsirs:
Ibn Kathir
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, 👉and [also for] those who have not menstruated👈. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause,
Those in menopause among your women, for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who have no courses.
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in Surah Al-Baqarah. (2:228)
👉The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation.👈 Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His saying;
(and for those who have no courses...).
As for His saying;
(if you have doubt...) There are two opinions:
- First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, Az-Zuhri and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was menstrual blood or not.
- The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this case, then know that their `Iddah is three months.
This has been reported from Sa`id bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir.
And this is the more obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin Ka`b that he said,
"O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the Qur'an, 👉the young👈, the old and the pregnant."
Allah the Exalted and Most Honored sent down this Ayah,
Those in menopause among your women, for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; 👉and for those who have no courses👈. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay down their burden.
Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one from Ubay bin Ka`b who said,
"O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surah Al-Baqarah was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah said,
`There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the Qur'an. 👉There are the young👈, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the pregnant.'
Later on, this Ayah was revealed,
Those in menopause among your women, for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who have no courses."
`Iddah of Pregnant Women
Allah's statement,
And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay down their burden;
Allah says: the pregnant woman's `Iddah ends when she gives birth, whether in the case of divorce or death of the husband, according to the agreement of the majority of scholars of the Salaf and later generations.
This is based upon this honorable Ayah and what is mentioned in the Prophetic Sunnah.
Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Salamah said,
"A man came to Ibn Abbas while Abu Hurayrah was sitting with him and said, `Give me your verdict regarding a lady who delivered a baby forty days after the death of her husband.'
Ibn `Abbas said,` Her `Iddah period lasts until the end of the longest among the two prescribed periods.'
I recited,
(For those who are pregnant, their prescribed period is until they deliver their burdens);
Abu Hurayrah said, `I agree with my cousin (Abu Salamah).'
Then Ibn `Abbas sent his slave Kurayb to Umm Salamah to ask her. She replied,
`The husband of Subay`ah Al-Aslamiyyah was killed while she was pregnant, and she delivered a baby forty days after his death. Then she received a marriage proposal and Allah's Messenger married her to somebody. Abu As-Sanabil was one of those who proposed to her."
Al-Bukhari collected this short form of the Hadith, which Muslim and other scholars of Hadith collected using its longer form.
Imam Ahmad recorded that Al-Miswar bin Makhramah said,
"Subay`ah Al-Aslamiyyah gave birth to a child a few days after the death of her husband. When she finished the post delivery term, she was proposed to. So she sought the permission of Allah's Messenger for the marriage, and he permitted her to marry, so she got married."
Al-Bukhari collected this narration, as did Muslim, Abu Dawud, An-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah with a different chain of narration from the Hadith of Subay`ah.
Muslim bin Al-Hajjaj recorded that;
Ubaydullah bin Abdullah bin Utbah said that his father wrote to Umar bin Abdullah bin Al-Arqam Az-Zuhri, requesting that he go to Subay`ah bint Al-Harith Al-Aslamiyyah to ask her about the matter in question, and about what Allah's Messenger said to her when she sought his verdict.
Umar bin Abdullah wrote to Ubaydullah bin Abdullah bin Utbah informing him that
Subay`ah told him that she had been married to Sa`d bin Khawlah, and he was one of those who participated in the battle of Badr. He died during the Farewell Pilgrimage, while she was pregnant. Soon after his death, she gave birth. When she passed the postnatal term, she beautified herself for those who might propose to her.
Abu As-Sanabil bin Ba`kak came to her and said, `Why do I see you have beautified yourself? Do you wish to remarry? By Allah, you cannot marry unless four months and ten days have passed."
Subay`ah said, "When he said that, I dressed myself in the evening and went to Allah's Messenger and asked him about his verdict.
He gave me a religious verdict that I was allowed to marry after I had given birth to my child, saying I could marry if I wish."
This is the narration that Muslim collected.
Al-Bukhari collected this Hadith in a shorter form.
Allah's statement,
and whosoever has Taqwa of Allah, He will make his matter easy for him.
means, Allah will make his matters lenient for him and will soon bring forth relief and a quick way out,
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! 👉What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?”👈 (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
And as for those of your women who read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances no longer expect to menstruate if you have any doubts about their waiting period their prescribed waiting period shall be three months 👉and also for those who have not yet menstruated because of their young age👈 their period shall also be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these latter their period is prescribed in the verse they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten days Q. 2234. And those who are pregnant their term the conclusion of their prescribed waiting period if divorced or if their spouses be dead shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God He will make matters ease for him in this world and in the Hereafter.
Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate 👉and👈
👉the woman who has not menstruated yet?👈 And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.
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Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
In-book: Book 67, Hadith 69
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 64 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
In-book: Book 67, Hadith 70
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 65 (deprecated)
Narrated 'Urwa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) wrote the (marriage contract) with `Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5158
In-book: Book 67, Hadith 93
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 88 (deprecated)
Narrated 'A'isha :
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old, and he (the Holy Prophet) took her to his house when she was nine, and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old
Sahih Muslim 1422 d
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 84
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3311 (deprecated)
It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine.
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255
In-book: Book 26, Hadith 60
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3257
It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was nine and he died when she was eighteen years old.
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3258
In-book: Book 26, Hadith 63
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3260
Dolls:
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
Sahih Muslim 1422 c
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 83
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3311 (deprecated)
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3378
In-book: Book 26, Hadith 183
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3380
Narrated `Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fath-ul-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
Sahih al-Bukhari 6130
In-book: Book 78, Hadith 157
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 73, Hadith 151 (deprecated)
A'isha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), whereas Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent them to her.
Sahih Muslim 2440 a
In-book: Book 44, Hadith 117
USC-MSA web (English): Book 31, Hadith 5981 (deprecated)
"A'ishah said :
I used to play with dolls. Sometimes the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) entered upon me when the girls were with me. When he came in, they went out, and when he went out, they came in.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4931
In-book: Book 43, Hadith 159
English translation: Book 42, Hadith 4913
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"I used to play with dolls when I was with the Messenger of Allah, and he used to bring my friends to me to play with me."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan Ibn Majah
English: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1982
Arabic: Book 9, Hadith 2058
A'isha said, "I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (ﷺ) and my friends would play with me. When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) entered, they would hide from him and he would call them to join me and they would play with me."
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 368
In-book: Book 19, Hadith 7
English translation: Book 19, Hadith 368
A'isha reported that the Prophet (ﷺ) used to call her companions to her who were playing with dolls."
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Al-Adab Al-Mufrad
English: Book 55, Hadith 1299
Arabic: Book 1, Hadith 1299
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"I used to play with dolls when I was with the Messenger of Allah, and he used to bring my friends to me to play with me."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan Ibn Majah
English: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1982
Arabic: Book 9, Hadith 2058
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.
He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4932
In-book: Book 43, Hadith 160
English translation: Book 42, Hadith 4914
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Hassan became a lollipop 🍭!
"Musnad Ahmad 16245—[Mua’wiya said]: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)"
Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9
مجمع الزوائد لعلي بن أبى بكر الهيثمي
رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن
translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) p***s.”
Al Tabari said :
Al Hasan ben Ali Al Faswi narrated to us about Khaled ben Yazid Al Arni, about Jarir, About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father, that Ibn Abbass RA said:
He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s.
Al Mujam Al Kabir by Al Tabarani vol 3, p 51
Ibn Abi Dunya narrated about his sheikh Isaac ben Ismail about Jarir about Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father:
the prophet used to put Al Husein’s legs apart and kiss his (little) p***s. Ibn Abi Dunyaa, Al iyal vol 1, p 376
Ibn Asaker narrated in Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus):
Abu Al Kasim Ali Ben Ibrahim and Abu Al Hassan Ali ben Ahmed, about Abu mansour ben Zurayq told us, about Abu Bakr Ahmed ben Ali Al Khateeb, about Al Azhari, about Al muaafi ben Zakarya, about Muhamed ben Mazyad ben Abi Al Azhar, about Ali ben Muslim Al Tousi, about Said ben Ameir, About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan, about his father, about his grandfather, about Jabir ben Abd Allah RA.
And he narrated to us Another time (Qabous) about his father, about jabir ben Abd Allah RA said:
I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s and Saying: May Allah curse the one who will kill you.
Ibn Asaker, Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus) vol 14, p 224
Al Bayhaqi narrated in his book Al Sunan Al Kubra:
Abu bakr Al Qadi and Abu Said ben Abi Amrou said, Abu Al Abbas Muhamed ben Yacoub said, muhamed ben Isaac said, Muhamed ben Imraan about his father, about ben Abi Layla about Isa about Abd-alrahman ben Abi Layla said:
We were at the presence of Rasoul Allah, and al Hasan came to him, he kissed his (little) p***s.
Al Bayhaqi, Al Sunan Al Kubra vol 1, p 137
Ibn Asaker in Tarikh Dimashq:
Abu Muhamed Ismail ben Abi Al Qasim, about Abu Hafs Omar ben Ahmed ben Masrour, about Al Hakim Abu Ahmed Muhamed ben muhamed ben Ahmed Al Hafiz, about Abu Yusef Muhamed ben Sufyan Al Safaar in Al Masisa, about Al yaman ben Said, about Al Harith ben Atiya, about Shu’ba, About Al Hakam, about Ibrahim, About Anas RA that he said: I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s.
Ibn Asaker, Tarikh Dimashq, vol 13, p 222.
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This WASN'T normal culturally at that time!.....
Narrated `Aisha:
A bedouin came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said, "You (people) kiss the boys! We don't kiss them." The Prophet said, "I cannot put mercy in your heart after Allah has taken it away from it."
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ ـ رضى الله عنها ـ قَالَتْجَاءَ أَعْرَابِيٌّ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ تُقَبِّلُونَ الصِّبْيَانَ فَمَا نُقَبِّلُهُمْ. فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلىالله عليه وسلم " أَوَ أَمْلِكُ لَكَ أَنْ نَزَعَ اللَّهُ مِنْ قَلْبِكَ الرَّحْمَةَ ".
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 5998
In-book reference: Book 78, Hadith 29
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 8, Book 73, Hadith 27
(deprecated numbering scheme)
It was narrated that Aisha, said:
"Some Bedouin people came to the Prophet(ﷺ) and said: 'Do you kiss your children?' He said: 'Yes'. He said: 'But we, by Allah, never kiss (our children)'. The Prophet(ﷺ) said: 'What can I do if Allah has taken away mercy from you?'"
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو أُسَامَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ قَدِمَنَاسٌ مِنَ الأَعْرَابِ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالُوا أَتُقَبِّلُونَ صِبْيَانَكُمْ قَالُوا نَعَمْ . فَقَالُوالَكِنَّا وَاللَّهِ مَا نُقَبِّلُ . فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ " وَأَمْلِكُ أَنْ كَانَ اللَّهُ قَدْ نَزَعَ مِنْكُمُ الرَّحْمَةَ " .
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference: Sunan Ibn Majah 3665
In-book reference: Book 33, Hadith 9
English translation: Vol. 5, Book 33, Hadith 3665
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Abdools & Dawahdools need to accept our scripture is authentic, otherwise they're rejecting Al-Lah, Mad-ham-mu, and quran!...
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a "Christian" and used to read the Gospels in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), "What do you see?" When he told him, Waraqa said, "That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly."
Sahih al-Bukhari 3392
In-book: Book 60, Hadith 66
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 605 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Scripture (Jews) used to recite the Torah in Hebrew and they used to explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. On that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Do not believe the people of the Scripture or disbelieve them, but say:-- "We believe in Allah and what is revealed to us." (2:136)
Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 12
Arabic: Book 65, Hadith 4485
2:136 - Sahih International
Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Scripture used to read the Torah in Hebrew and explain it to the Muslims in Arabic. Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Do not believe the people of the Scripture, and do not disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever has been revealed...' (3:84)
Sahih al-Bukhari 7542
In-book: Book 97, Hadith 167
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 93, Hadith 632 (deprecated)
3:84 - Sahih International
Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
5:46 - Sahih International
And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
5:47 - Sahih International
And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.
5:68 - Sahih International
Say, "O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord." And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people.
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.
They said: Abul Qasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in you and in Him Who revealed you.
He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).
Hasan (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
In-book: Book 40, Hadith 99
English translation: Book 39, Hadith 4434
'Amir b. Shahr said:
I was with the Negus when his son
👉recited a verse of 👉the Gospel👈. 👉So I laughed👈.
Thereupon he said : 👉Do you laugh at the word of Allah, the Exalted?👈
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud, 4736
In-Book Reference: Book 42, Hadith 141
English Reference: Book 41, Hadith 4718
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We have the Truth, preserved, it's our interpretation of the text, not the text itself that's questioned!....
Al-Jawab As-Sahih
Sheikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah
“They corrupt the word” means “they alter or change its meaning”, yet no one is able to change even a single word from any Book of God. The meaning is that they interpret the word wrongly.
Kitaab (the book of) Al-Tawheed, Baab(chapter) Qawlu Allah Ta'ala, Bal Huwa Qur'aanun Majeed, fi lawhin Mahfooth
The word “Tahrif” [corruption] signifies to change a thing from its original nature; and there is no man who could corrupt a single word of what proceeds from God, so that the Jews and Christians could corrupt only by misrepresenting the meanings of the word of God.
Imam Muhammad Isma'il al-Bukhari in Dictionary of Islam, T. P. Hughes, Kazi Publications, Inc, 3023-27 West Belmont Avenue, Chicago Il. 60618, 1994, p.62
Al-Razi (865 – 925) One of the most famous Muslim scholars, called "the Imam of Muslim Imams".
How could there be any alteration in the Book whose words' sharpness has reached a great level of circulation in the East and in the West? … For no change can occur in a book that is well circulated among men. Every wise man can see that the alteration of the Bible was impossible for it was well circulated among men of different faith and backgrounds.
p.327 of his Third Volume
Al Tabari (838 – 923) openly acknowledged that the authentic Taurat and Injil remained in the hands of the Jews and the Christians. His only charge was that they did not always understand or accept the true meaning of their teachings
... the first one which came into existence, is the Torah, which is in the hands of the People of the Book...As to the Gospel which is in the hands of the Christians, the greater part of it is the history of the Christ, His birth and His life.
Tabari, The Book of Religion and Empire, p.51
Sayyid Ahmad Khan (1817 - 1898), a prominent and influential Muslim modernist
As far as the text of the Bible is concerned, it has not been altered. No attempt was made to present a diverging text as the authentic one.
M. H. Ananikian, “The Reforms and Religious Ideas of Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan”, The Moslem World 14 (1934) p.61
Ibn Mazar and Ibn Hatim state, in the commentary known as the Tafsir Durr-I-Mansur, that they have it on the authority of Ibn Muniyah, that the Taurat (i.e. the books of Moses), and the Injil (i.e. the Gospels), are in the same state of purity in which they were sent down from heaven, and that no alterations had been made in them, but that the Jews were wont to deceive the people by unsound arguments, and by wresting the sense of Scripture … Shah Waliyu ‘Illah (in his commentary, the Fauzul âl-Kabir), and also Ibn ‘Abbas, support the same view.
T. P. Hughes, Dictionary of Islam, Kazi Publications, Inc, 3023-27 West Belmont Avenue, Chicago Il. 60618, 1994, p.62
Abdullah Saeed
A significant point of tension between today’s Muslims and the ‘People of the Book’ (Jews and Christians) is the common Muslim belief that the Jewish and Christian scriptures that exist today are corrupted and cannot be relied upon in any matters of faith, religion or law.
Although this is a popular view, most classical scholars of the Qur’an were far more cautious in their understanding of Qur’anic texts on this issue. This article explores the Qur’an’s references to distortion of scriptural meaning and text, and the views of scholars, particularly Tabari, Qurtubi, Razi, Ibn Taymiyya and Qutb.
Qur’anic words such as tahrif are popularly accepted today as referring to deliberate distortion of scripture; however, classical scholars have interpreted the Qur’an’s references in a number of different ways.Almost all suggested that distortion occurred mainly through interpretation and not in the text itself. Although the Qur’an refers to tahrif (distortion), it also exhibits the utmost respect for previous scriptures. Early Muslims adopted a narrow view of scripture, partly because of the nature of the Qur’an, and also in response to the more established religions of Judaism and Christianity, to assert the ‘purity’ of the Qur’an and Islam.
Saeed notes that the Jewish and Christian scriptures that exist today are, according to most scholars, largely unchanged since the time of Muhammad and should be respected now as they were then.
Introduction to Prof. Abdullah Saeed's - The Charge of Distortion of Jewish and Christian Scriptures - The Muslim World. Vol. 92, 2002
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Says it all really!!! 😂 🤣
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@Yunopil7
Answer my questions after I've decimated your ignorant fallacies!
Holy Spirit answers:
Holy Spirit isn't a 3rd God, communicating with the Holy Spirit involves what is in my heart, aswel as my speech, and the Holy Spirit hears, the Holy spirit guiding doesn't necessitate the Holy Spirit to reveal Himself in any form or to speak!
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The Lord Jesus Christ, my God, my Saviour answers:
Genesis 31:13!
Jesus knew the Hour, show me where Jesus says He "NEVER" knew the hour!
He is hypostatically unified with the Father, and the Holy Spirit, if the Father knows the hour, Jesus and the Holy Spirit know the Hour, the time/date of the hour had 0 relevance to His mission whilst incarnate!
Now explain to me why the hour was claimed to be attached to Muhammad's life/death, according to your dingbat, the hour happened 1,400 years ago, so Where's Al-Lah's pogo shin foot, Where's Muhammad, are we in jannah right now!?!
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You've stated a paradoxical oxymoron!...
You say Jesus being God was "present everywhere and knew everything in creation"
Then you state that through the Monarchy of the Father only the Father knows and that the Father Wills, Jesus acts, and the Holy Spirit gives Life"
You then continue to elaborate that "never is an act of God divided or seperated or divisible in any way"
And finally, you state that Jesus is "fully Man and fully God"!....
Well your statement contradicts itself (oxymoron) because you're claiming God cannot be seperated, divided, divisible, yet you then state that the Father Wills, Jesus Acts, the Holy Spirit gives Life, but Jesus is Fully God, this dictates and necessitates seperation, division, divisibility, because now your logic dictates and necessitates that the Father has the Divine Will, knowledge, but doesn't act or give life, Jesus acts, but doesn't have Divine Will, knowledge, or give life, the Holy Spirit gives Life, but doesn't have Divine Will, knowledge, or act,
Which scripture refutes you on when the Holy Spirit acts in order to Command as God!
Jesus' Will, and the Holy Spirit's Divine Will IS the Father's Will, the Divine Will has to be part of the Triunity between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, otherwise Jesus couldn't be as you state "fully God" (paradox)!
Jesus proves in Scripture that He did contain knowledge of the hour, and that He limited His knowledge when He prophesied the signs of the hour!
Even Gregory Palamas refutes you regarding the faculty of knowing!
For the Father's Will to be done through the Son, Will in no way dictates or necessitates independant sole knowledge, it only dictates and necessitates that the Father decides when the time is to act and the hour to occur!
To be and fulfill the role and mission of Messiah, He had no need for access to the entirety of His knowledge which He had as the Angel of God pre incarnation, and which He had full access too post resurrection!
Finally!.....
You need to realise that your petty pointless attempts at dividing us when we all share a common enemy, you're ignorantly complicit and part of the problem NOT the resolution/remedy!
Look at you, it's all about your sinful pride and which denomination you think is the best one, the right one, the only one that should and must be adhered to!
Shame on you!....
By your fruits we know you, but more importantly, and should be of greater worry for you is, the Lord Himself knows you by your fruits!
Think it through, and I hope you've learnt a lesson here today for your own sake not ours!
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The only surefire fact regarding Muslims, is that none of them can stand by or prove the claims made in their cult!....
They reject the Qurans, don't know which Quran is the original, don't know who Al-Lah is, don't know anything about Muhammad, they don't even know if Muhammad was inside or outside the Hira cave, and if 96 is the first "revelation" then Al-Lah is instantly busted as a fraud!
As is proven and experienced, they reject all their sources regarding them due to shame and embarrassment, they can't even defend their Qurans because there's just so many holes in the narrative, they can't even refute the polemics, points, arguments, and questions that expose this Taqiyya Bid'ah pagan cult!
Watch, any of the regular spanked raw trolls even have the bottle, or are that ignorant, as to respond to this, you'll see how quick their cult is exposed and how cowardly and incapable they are, like their pagan Sabian they're intellectually and logically impotent! 😂 🤣
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@solascriptura1536
Oh you'll love 7:155-157, the injil, which dictates Isa too, are present at the time of Moses, and if you read the end of 7:157, the unlettered prophet, if Muhammad, was sent down with the Quran, bit Muhammad was born from between Aminah's legs, so is Aminah's womb jannah where Al-Lah was hiding, and did she give birth to the Quran and Muhammad simultaneously, and is Aminah the eternal tablets because the Quran has a mother (43:4)!?! 🤔 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
It also says in the Bible that Jesus, in His own words is God, was Crucified, died, and Resurrected, so if you accept the reference you're abusing, then you have to accept the rest, and 5:46 commands you to accept the entire Bible, including Paul, as the injil,
Do you accept Paul and the injil!?!
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@bdbestxyzIII
Your brain is so pickled by camelade you actually think you've made an actual point when really you've just proven your ignorance and ultracrepidarianism!
The mystery was WHO the Saviour prophesied would be, and Paul is affected by rming that with the incarnation, cricixion and resurrection of Christ, that mystery is no more because it is now revealed and the prophecy fulfilled! 😂 🤣 🤣
Do you believe as per your Hadiths, that Isaiah is where your pagan Sabian is meant to be prophesied, or are your Hadiths untrustworthy because they're fabricated Bid'ah?!
You, put of all the ignorant abdools here, should seriously stop yapping for your own sake, because everytime you start yapping, you each and every single time, end up making a fool out of yourself, and set your cult up to be prophet of ven false! Everytime!
Now answer!
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@maxinedeleon4357
I concur in part!....
You've misunderstood my comment!..
First off, the likes of Siraj are the most lost of souls, so your response now becomes a paradox!.....
Bob doesn't engage with Siraj because Siraj constantly seeks brothers and sisters who will constantly faff around humouring and trying to play his game in their attempts to refute him by trying to focus on apologetics rather than just go full blown polemisist, I'm a polemisist, so apologetics are my shield and body armour, so I never concede ground, but my sword and spear are my polemics, and that's how I slay this cult!
Furthermore, I'm not looking to cast pearls amongst swine, I'm not so immature and petty as to think its about Siraj, NO!....
This is about as you referred to, and Bob....."fighting the Good Fight!"....
It's about the ruler of darkness Siraj believes in!
It's about the dangers of the cult ideology he believes in and is trying to decieve ignorants into!
So all you've now proven based on the clarity provided in this response, I'm actually adhering to Ephesians 6:12!
Ive been debating Muslims for years now, and I state as a fact rather than arrogance and pride, that not one single Muslim has ever refuted me in a debate!......
I've debated Hamza, Kenny Bommer and his team, Ali dawah, mimi hijab, mansur, adnan, all have ran from me!
Now, the reason I mention this is because I've dealt with Arab Muslims, and Muslims from around the world, I've dealt with slicker fallacious Muslims than Siraj,
And if I were to attend Speakers Corner, I'd silence the likes of Siraj, sammi, and all the regular Dawah lot that attend Speakers Corner regularly!
I can expose and destroy their Trinity fallacies, where Jesus states explicitly He is God, yes, that's right, Jesus actually does state it, so ask yourself this, why aren't all our Christian brothers and sisters referring to at least one explicit verse that I use and silence Muslims instantly!?!....
They can't even dare try question our scripture when they debate me!
Just as an example,
And as for the quran, well they can't provide a single refutation against my claims/points, or answer a single question.
Don't assume I haven't done my research, I can bring sources that our brothers and sisters don't even bring into play during debates!
I've got hundreds of Islamic books/sources from their so called "scholars", I go digging into the Arabic, I know and can prove WHO Al-Lah is, even in the quran Al-Lah affirms which known "god" Al-Lah is claiming to be, I understand what tawheed actually is as a result!
By all means, bring a muslim here for a debate and I'll show you.
So please, in future don't assume, ask, clarify, understand, and then you can always respond with an informed response!
God bless, and Peace of Christ be with you! 🙏
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The hypocrisy, after the way they behave week in week out, what they've done to our Sister Hatun,
And they want to cry because Will gave lamin a minor guiding directional push after he'd told Lamin to do one,
Lamin continued and persisted, so he got a light guiding push, it wouldn't even have fallen into the categorisation of 4:34 Taqiyya (beat them lightly, with a toothbrush)😂🤣,
It's not like Will was malicious, and the size of Will to Lamin, if he'd pushed him in a malicious way, Lamin would've been sat in the floor! 😂 🤣
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Everyone needs to stop buying into the Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya!
We all agree not every person who claims to be Muslim tap into the doctrine, but here's the thing, in Islam there's only one way, and that's orthodoxy, ISIS are salafi (orthodox Muslims), so those who aren't orthodox, aren't Muslims even though they claim to be, because they accept and integrate with us, the non Muslims, and the second they do that, they're deemed apostates!
Quran is explicitly clear, if you don't accept allah and Muhammad, you're an enemy of Allah!
And as an enemy of Allah, Muslims are to enforce quran surah (chapter) 9, look at what 9:29 states!
Islam dictates no Muslim can be friends with Jews and Christians, and by extension any non Muslim, but they are to smile in your face while hating you in their hearts!
How many times have you heard a muslim state Islam is peace, and then they quote "it says in the quran to kill a soul is as if killing all mankind!", well, when you look at that verse (5:32), the question arises, are all Muslims now Jews, because that verse is directed towards thee Jews, not the Muslims, and that's a perfect example of Taqiyya, and you all fall for it time and again!
People!.....Wake up! Stop being so blissful in your ignorance!....
Here, just a few Hadiths, sound and seem familiar to what we're seeing manifest on our streets right now!?!....
Selected Ahadith by Suyuti
2093 - Jihad in the path of Al-Lah is tourism for my Ummah
2754 - "Now, we invade them and they will not invade us"
2778 - "Islam dominates, and is not dominated over"
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At the end of the day, these climate catastrophisers are putting all their eggs in pseudo science modelling basket!..
To base, conclude, and model a hypothesis to predict the future course of the climate based on the time duration/period they're basing this all on, and appreciating how long the planet has been formed, climate ever changing, fluctuating,
Unless they've got documented records from since time began, then it's as stated, nothing more than a pseudo science modelling, conclusions, and hypothesis!
Tomorrow coffee might be bad for you again, then next week it's a life changer/saver! 😂 🤣
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@mrbrowntvdefendingislam3435
Ah Mr Brown, not so fast, you misunderstood my statement and point,
I'm not asking what the Hadiths and Quran are, I'm asking how can Al-Lah, in the Quran, quote Muhammad post statement and it be a revelation, because this is an oxymoron!
So, it's I who is waiting, and as for your fallacy, we'll I can provide you ve easily that the Messiah will be identified as and called God, and where Jesus said He is God explicitly,
So deal with my point and then I'll provide the verses that will expose your ignorance and bust your cult!
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@michaelknight6732
And whilst trying to play smart, you've just busted yourself!
So you admit that your attributes are human in nature,
Now as we all have these human attributes regardless of how many we are as persons and minds, these attributes are what define us as humans, they are our nature, aka human nature, but the attributes of Al-Lah, regardless of their multiplicity, are unified in one divine nature, and there's only one divine nature, and that nature can apply to any number of persons and/or minds as the nature isn't defined by the number of minds or persons!
So the Trinity being 3 Hypostasis (persons), unified by 1 Divine nature, and that Divine nature being understood by both you and I as being only attributed and affiliated with God, God being Triune means God is 1 regardless of the number of persons and minds!
So everything I've stated is in full agreement with the entirety of Christianity!
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@SamA-xu9gy ntha
Sam A ntha
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@quintessence3991
Actually, if you look at your initial statement/response, you assert the claim that the Bible proves the Bible,
And what exposes you is the fact you've not corrected anyone responding before I stepped in, so, your assertive claim has been understood correctly as just that, an assertive claim!.....
I never claimed you believe or disbelieve what you claimed, it's irrelevant to my point, so don't try bringing your Wurzle Gummidge's (strawmen) to me!
The only reason you're now trying to wriggle out of it is because you assumed we'd all play your game, jump through your hoops, but I've come along and thrown a wrench in your works, and you don't have any proof to back your claim up when I've challenged you!
Now, while I wait for your evidence/proof, answer the question, are you muslim, why so shy!?! 😂
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Muslims week in, week out, prove Yasir Qadhi right when he said that the West are leaps and bounds ahead of Muslims regarding Islam, The Iceman & Bloodfire had to educate this ignorant Muslim about his cult, aswel as our Lord, the Disciples/Apostles, Church fathers, scripture, & Theology!
Muslims, time to accept, we have the hikmah on our side, history and evidence on our side, scripture on our side, we have the truth on our side, but most importantly, we have the Lord Jesus Christ on our side, and that's why we have no fear, we won't be silenced when we preach the Good News and truth,
And that's why none can refute, answer, or beat, us in a debate, and only we will receive the Salvation from our Saviour, our Lord, our God!
Al-Lah and Muhammad can't provide you with what Christ provides and will provide!
Praise, Glorify, Worship, and Love, the Lord Jesus Christ, because He Loves you so much that He ensured that you will receive Eternal Life rather than Eternal Death! 🙏
Neither Al-Lah or Muhammad did, or would do, that for mankind!
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In order for Al-Lah to be the "most" merciful, "most" forgiving, "most" just, dictates a comparison, there's others who are merciful, forgiving, just, these are attributes and traits humans aka creation have, so either Al-Lah is comparing Al-Lah with creation, or other gods, either way, this is shirk.....So which is it, humans or other gods in order for Al-Lah to make such claims!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
6:78 fake Quranic Abraham affirms Al-Lah is Sin the chief pagan moon god of Abraham's people, only dispute is the association of Deities alongside Al-Lah! 😂 🤣
6:78 - Sahih International
And when he saw the sun rising, he said, "This is my lord; this is greater." But when it set, he said, 👉"O my people, indeed I am free from what you associate with Allah .👈
You worship Sin!
Now, you tell me, is your Sin, as the predestinator, originator, and father of sin, sin!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@Muhammed-Dee
If that's the case then in 1:1-7 the surah goes like this....
In the NAME of the god, the entirely merciful, the especially merciful.
All praise is due to the god, lord of the worlds -
The entirely merciful, the especially merciful,
Sovereign of the day of recompense.
It is you we worship and you we ask for help.
Guide us to the straight path -
The path of those upon whom you have bestowed favour, not of those who have earned your anger or those who are astray.
Now, what is the NAME of this "the god"!?!
Who is the god that you're praising and askon for guidance!?!
Your the god claims to have an NAME, singular, this name is of importance and relevance, so, what is the NAME!?! 😂 🤣
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@djelalhassan7631
Also, your translation is full of Taqiyya!....
To correctly translate, 108:1 it should state.....
"I (pending your translation of aAAtaynaka - أَعۡطَيۡنَٰكَ ) Al Kauthar/Kawthar
Now, what's alkauthar/alkawthar!?!
Why is alkauthar/alkawthar transliterated in your translation/the translations as" Al-Kauthar/Al-Kawthar if it's one word!?!🤔😂
Who is the "I", and who is the recipient!?!
. Why does the Arabic use "I" and your translation/the translations use "We", who are any of you to "change" the word of Al-Lah and thereby corrupting Al-Lah's word/the quran!?!
Also, as this is directed at one specific recipient, the instructions in the surah only apply to the specific individual recipient not all!
Who are the individuals opposing, and why are they opposition in 108:3!?!
See, literary devices my back foot! 😂🤣
There's nothing special, unique, original, or any sort of message conveyed beyond the individual specific recipient, if mo, then mo is the only one to follow these instructions!
And the surah still fails to meet your standard/criteria, whereas my surah does!
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@djelalhassan7631
Let's test your Arabic....
Can you combine letters and claim they're still letters in Arabic!?!....
For example,
Could you say....
"the letter a, the letter b, the letter a, the letter c, the letter u, the letter s",
And claim you're stating letters not the word abacus!
Or vice versa?
I strongly suggest you acknowledge and deal with this, because it's relevant to the overall topic regarding "a surah like it", it'll establish your level of Arabic, and then we can proceed/continue!...
Refuse, ignore, and I will take that as you don't know Arabic as well as you claim.
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@djelalhassan7631
Oh dear!.....
I've had fun translating surah 108,
There's 2 conjunctive words in the surah, so it has more than 10 words no matter what!......
And translated properly, this surah is seriously problematic for you, so, when you're ready, we'll go through 108, and by the time we're done, you won't ever want to read/recite 108 ever again, because it'll remind you always of this interaction!
Remember, you chose this surah not I! 😂
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@djelalhassan7631
Actually, your original challenge stated that the Quran challenges to produce one surah like it, it doesn't state a specific surah, just "one/a" surah, I'm sure you fully understand what "one" means, don't you all seem to think stating "Al-Lah is one" with your pagan fingers in the air actually proves something!?!😂🤣
So, I don't have to pick a surah from the quran and mimic the surah, because that would be paradoxically oxymoronic and make your Al-Lah look Azar! 😂🤣.....
Think about it, you're challenging me, based on your understanding of the challenge your quran sets, that I have to write a surah like 108, or the Surahs containing the challenges, as in it has to have the exact number of words as are in the surah, and it has to have....
Your words....
"frequency of linguistic devices and literary features, and it expresses maximal meaning within 10 words and unique structure.
Formulated into three lines or verses, and add any preposition or linguistic particle you see fit. At the same time, ensure it has a unique structure, is timelessly meaningful and righteous and ethical and shows the moral way and the immoral way with its pair, and relates to themes within a book that it is part of — the size of that which is over seventy-thousand words. Make sure four of its words are unique and never used again in the book. Ensure each line or verse ends with a rhyme, created by words with the most optimal meanings. Make sure that these words are used only once in the three lines, and not used anywhere else in the book. Ensure that the three lines concisely and eloquently semantically mirrors its pair the sûrah/chapter 107 before it, which I have also translated and presented here, and they must formulate a profound response to an unplanned set of circumstances for all Time. You must use ten letters in each line and ten letters only once in the entire three lines. Throughout the whole piece, make sure you produce a semantically oriented rhythm and harmony without sacrificing any meaning. Do all of the above publicly in one and first attempt, without revision or amendment, in absence of any formal training in eloquence and rhetoric.
Impossible as the above may seem, this is exactly what the Qur’ān achieved and in its shortest chapter Al-Kawthar (The Abundance)108:Âyât/Signs:1-3; and also in its every sûrah/chapter.
“Let them then produce a hadith/narration,statement,discourse like unto it if they are truthful” 52:34...."
Now, this why I love Muslims like you, because you love to waffle so much you always end up gift wrapping and handing me more information/evidence to expose you and your cult!.....
You just affirmed that the Quran is nothing but Hadith narrations!...
"Let them then produce a hadith/narration,statement,discourse like unto it if they are truthful” 52:34...."
So, your quran isn't the word of Al-Lah of it's a compilation of Hadiths, that dictates and necessitates that all your Hadiths are quran too!
I mean, your Qudsi Hadiths are meant to be the word of Al-Lah, yet they're not in the quran!
And your Hadiths claim there's loads of verses that are missing, a goat/sheep ate some, 1 surah once was as long as Surah 2......
Oh but it gets worse, and you know it, because you have to grade all your Hadiths, and all of you love to try and reject Hadiths, claim they're fabrications etc,
So thank you, you've just completely exposed and discredited the entirety of your cult!
Furthermore, as I already pointed out, Al-Lah set the challenge supposedly in the quran, not you, unless you're claimig to be Al-Lah, so you don't get to dictate which surah, or what the standards are in regards to the challenge!
But even if I'm to accept your specific requirements/standards, surah 108 as I've proven can't even tick off a single box to satisfy your requirements/standards, my surah does!
You said my surah had to match 108 the following way...
"You must use ten letters in each line and ten letters only once in the entire three lines."
Surah 108 has more than 10 letters, it has more than 10 words, so surah 108 can't even meet your standards/requirements! 😂🤣🤣
And dont think for a moment I, and everyone else haven't seen/noticed that you've been flapping and desperate to avoid dealing with the Arabic the second I challenged you on it, and that you're evidently trying to shift the goalposts, which by default proves the challenge has been met, and as a result you're trying to constantly tweak the challenge in order to reject what has already met the original requirements/standards set for the challenge!
Now, you assumed that my surah isn't part of a book and thought by demanding it had to be from and therefore part of a book in order to pass the challenge would be problematic for me, well, it's from MY book of polemics! 😂🤣
Oh, and you said there couldn't be no sort of editing, correcting etc etc, well that's your Al-Lah and quran busted thanks to "Abrogation"! 😂🤣
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@djelalhassan7631
Hmm, I wonder, if we go through each and every single surah, do you think all Surahs only use letters/words once, if so, then your quran would only be able to be 28 letters if that based on 7th century Arabic!?!....
And, if only using one word once, then your entire quran would be a few pages/verses at best, and make even less sense than it does currently!
Think about it, for example, you can only use the word Al-Lah, Muhammad, quran, Isa, Musa etc etc once!
How many times are Al-Lah and Isa mentioned in your quran, your standards/requirements dictate and necessitate only 1 use can be applied to the entire quran, so which 2 verses are the legit Al-Lah Isa mentioning verses, and which are fabrications, and why are there fabrications in your quran using the words Al-Lah and Isa in other Surahs/verses!?!
Your claim and logic, not mine! 😂🤣
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@djelalhassan7631
I'm going with your logic, your intellect, so your statement applies to you not I here!
I'm actually being fully sincere, genuine, honest, and simply taking on the challenge as stated in the quran!.....
It's you who's trying to use Taqiyya Bid'ah because based on the Quranic text, the challenge, I met, and surpassed the challenge set!
Now as I stated, your translation, the translations from your scholars, none actually preserve the actual true statement and context, like I said, there's 2 prepositions in the surah, you didn't dispute or attempt to refute this when I stated it, you didn't even enquire/question it, so you know they're there, and I'm right,
And the reason you completely overlooked this, is because as I stated, this exposes major problems!
So, the quran challenge doesn't mention any of the standards you tried to impose, it's simply challenging anyone to make a chapter like a chapter in the quran, any chapter, that's it, that's the challenge!....
So, anyone can write a chapter, in any language, and all that chapter has to do is be equal to, or better than the quran surah/s.
Do you realise that for decades now people have been successfully surpassing this challenge!
What do you think singers/lyricists do, what do you think rappers do!?!...
Eminem has more Surahs than the quran (rap tracks/albums)! 😂🤣
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@aaronharun1394H
Arabic translation just got you busted because you've admitted it's a translation, show me Exodus 3:15, if the translation is valid and accurate then it'll state يهوه not ٱللَّهِ, if it states ٱللَّهِ it's a false corrupt translation, because Al-Lah claims Al-Lah is a name not a title (1:1, backed up by Bukhari multiple times, and he's backed up by your main Hadith books), and while you're at it, show me the name Al-Lah in the Bible as a name not a title!
Come on abdool, defend your claim and source! 😂 🤣
Oh wait, you dint have the guts, cojones or spine do you, you're an abdool after all, so here, I'll post Exodus 3:15 from the Arabic translation!.....
وقال الله ايضا لموسى هكذا تقول لبني اسرائيل 👈يهوه👉 اله آبائكم اله ابراهيم واله اسحق واله يعقوب ارسلني اليكم. هذا اسمي الى الابد وهذا ذكري الى دور فدور.
Oh dear oh dear!......
Seems you have a serious problem now, now you've got to find in the Quran where your Al-Lah claims to be يهوه!....
Provide the Quran reference, NOW!..
Or concede and accept you've just been exposed and busted! 😂 🤣
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@marjan.f7441
You say the Christians prayed to the wrong God (singular), so you admit we pray to One God!....
You then continue to say that if God is One Divine Being then how can He be a Human Being!?!
And you continue, if Jesus is God (Singular) then you understand this to mean "2 Gods"!
And finally we have the good old repetative script, Jesus prayed to the Father, did He pray to Himself if He is God!?!
Well let's go through this and watch how you've just got your Al-Lah and cult officially busted!......
1 - you've affirmed multiple times we worship 1 God, 1 God cannot be 2 or 3! 😂 🤣
2 - God becoming incarnate dictates God had to exist before the incarnation in order to incarnate, so cannot become God at the point of, or post incarnation, as God is already God and exists pre incarnation! 😂 🤣......
Furthermore, the word "being", by definition, means existence, and your entire logic and context has been hypostasis orientated, as is firther supported and even dent from your reference to Jesus praying to the Father!....
So, either Al-Lah now is comparable to creation amd is comparable to a singular hypostasis, and that means the Quran is contradictory!....
29:46 claims your Al-Lah and our God are One,
So tell us, what is Al-Lah in order to be one, as in, if Al-Lah can't be compared to creation, then what's Al-Lah's equivalent of the body in order to be one, Alonzo Harris has failed to provide an answer to date, let's see if you can! 😂 🤣
And 9:29 affirms that we don't worship Al-Lah as God, otherwise it contradicts 29:46!
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@fahiymmuhammad785
you as an abdool believe in the quran claims, 5:46-47, and many other verses affirm the injil as the entire Bible, and that it's authentic uncorrupted!
You've just rejected your owm quran!
Furthermore, your quran claims that the mythical injil was around at the time of Moses (7:155-157)!
Even Waraqa supposedly was translating our scriptures into Arabic, so where the original, the copy Waraqa was translating from, or Waraqa's translation!?!
Also, your quran is nothing but Hadiths itself, you have only Mad-ham-mu's claim amd word, nothing from Al-Lah and Al-Lah's spirit, which by the way, you all commit shirk claiming Al-Lah's spirit to be Jibril! 😂
And you can't validate or authentic Mad-ham-mu because even he supposedly didn't see or speak to Al-Lah directly!
I challenge you now to bring the mythical injil!
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@fahiymmuhammad785
John the Apostle isn't a Prophet he's a Disciple/Apostle, you've confused John the Disciple/Apostle with John the Baptist, there's no John the Disciple/Apostle even in the Quran! 😂 🤣
Also, the Gospel of John and the Book of Revelation are authored by....
John the Disciple/Apostle, so, seen as you're now claiming John the Disciple/Apostle to be credible, you have to accept His Gospel and Book of Revelation, and guess what, BOTH expose and refute your cult!
And you don't get to pick and choose our scripture, because 5:46-47 aswel as many other verses, based on what you're led to believe, dictate our scripture, the entire Bible, including, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, & Paul, have to be accepted as authentic, uncorrupted, and supposedly from Al-Lah, otherwise you reject 5:46-47 and all the other verses claiming the same, then there's all the Hadiths and Tafsirs, but I know you like to claim Quran only!
You're now in a self created catch 22! 😂 🤣
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@AlonzoHarris235
Haha, so Pickthall now is my own personal made up interpretation, and Pickthall/his translation, as an Islamic Scholar, isn't a Scholary work! 😂🤣
So explain to me why his translation is accepted, how about all your translations affirm the wa is conjunctive!.....
And, if I'm so wrong, prove it, simply provide quran verses, scholars/Scholary works, dictionaries/lexicons that state otherwise regarding the wa!
Do you realise how many times the wa is used in your quran, and hadiths, and every single time it is used, it is translated as one word with one function "And, conjunctive!".
So Alonzo, because it would be so easy to prove me wrong, do it! 😂
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@AlonzoHarris235
Do you also realise Alonzo, that you've focused on only the wa, so you don't dispute the praying,
So your only discrepancy is whether Al-Lah is praying alone to another, or whether the angels are too praying alongside!
Now, it's evident and obvious that you've focused on the angels being alongside Al-Lah as that would be shirk, but you've taken your eye off the ball regarding the shirk regardless because Al-Lah is praying to another, who's the one Al-Lah is praying to, remember, your logic, if a god prays that dictates and necessitates dependancy, but your Al-Lah depends on creation in multiple ways!?!
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Haha, Isa knows the hour but Al-Lah says only Al-Lah knows the hour, so Isa must be Al-Lah! 😂 🤣
43:61 - Sahih International
And indeed, Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
31:34 - Sahih International
Indeed, Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
7:187 - Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
41:47 - Sahih International
To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
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Haha, yet Lah made Adam in Lah's image!
Claims Lah isn't Isa!
Claims Isa and Maryam aren't "gods" besides Lah!
Lah has anthropomorphic body parts!
And even affirms that Lah, if to have a son, would be dependant on a female partner to create a son by doing the same act we humans have to in order to create sons & daughters!
Now, my questions are,
Where's our 2nd right hand, what happened to it, why's it gone, does it come back in Jannah, should we have 3 hands/arms (2 right 1 left), or 4 (2 on each side), or just 2 on the right and none on the left (imbalanced and disproportionate)!?!
If the latter, then how did the right hand/arm end up alllll the way over on the left and become a left hand/arm, doesn't this mean Lah is a poor creator because Lah's end product clearly is defective/flawed/imperfect!?!😂🤣
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Interesting, your lah commands you all to sacrifice yourselves for your lah, and your lah doesn't even forgive when the shahada has been taken, look at mr pharaoh in the quran, he took shahada, and your lah didn't show mercy, your lah showed mercilessness!
Oh, and your lah even commands Moses to settle in Egypt, so, Israel in the quran includes Egypt, Palestine belongs to Israel, your Lah said so! 😂🤣
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These abdool trolls obsessed with the Trinity have bigger issues to contend with!.....
Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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Shamsi's fallacy annihilates Islam!....
It acknowledges and affirms that the Divinity of Christ, became flesh, therefore Christ is already identified as God pre incarnation!....
And then regarding God's perfection, Al-Lah fails, just two examples are that Al-Lah can't enter creation (even though Al-Lah claims to be in creation and on earth (6:3), and Al-Lah needs another in order to have a son (21:17), and has daughters (Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat, so has already created offspring like humans, which is paradoxical! 😂 🤣
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Fao brother Chris (Iceman),
It's interesting that the Shia (source below) admit that there was only the rasm during the time of Muhammad.
Calligraphy, Orthography and Diacritical Marks Used in the Qur'an
The first and second copies of the Qur'an were written in Kufic script at the time of the Prophet. The very basic nature of the script, without diacritical marks, was suitable for the reciters, relators and scholars who had learned the Qur'an by heart, since only they knew the precise pronunciation of the words. Others found great difficulty if they opened the Book and tried to read correctly.
It was for this reason that at the end of the first century after Hijrah Abu al-Aswad al-Du'ali, one of the companions of 'Ali, with the guidance of the latter, wrote out the rules of the Arabic language and on the orders of the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik produced a Qura'nic text with diacritical marks. This, to a certain extent, removed the difficulty of reading the Kufic script.
Several difficulties remained, however; the diacritical marks for vowels, for example, were for a time only points. Instead of a fathah, a point was placed at the beginning of the letter and, instead of kasrah, a point below and, for a dammah, a point above at the end of a letter.
This led to ambiguity. It was not till Khalil ibn Ahmad al-Farahidi set about explaining the maddah, i.e. the lengthening of certain words, the doubling of letters, the diacritical marks of vowelling and the pause, that the difficulty of reading script was finally removed.
https://www.al-islam.org/quran-islam-its-impact-and-influence-life-muslims-sayyid-muhammad-husayn-tabatabai/part-5-order
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@deficrypto1234
You're just digging a deeper hole because you've now exposed yourself as a hypocrite!
First you affirmed the Angel of God stated the Angel of God is God, and now you're switching claiming the Angel of God is just delivering a message, which dictates that in Revelation 1:1 Jesus is God!
Oh, wait, let me guess, you'll now claim Revelation 1:1 isn't the Revelation of Jesus Christ like you first affirmed and in your response and statement! 😂 🤣 🤣
And that's why you're in a catch 22!...
Chekmate!....
You can try and fight it, try and squirm, but one thing you can't do, is deny, escape, refute, the catch 22 you're in! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@deficrypto1234
Don't defame me, I've exposed your hypocrisy therefore you're a hypocrite, do t cry because I'm laughing at it not you! 😂
And now that you affirm your understanding of Revelation 1:1 as defining the Father as God, that now dictates Jesus is the Angel of God, and we're back to Genesis 31:13,
And what did Jesus say in Genesis 31:13, that's right, you already affirmed it, that the Angel of God declared explicitly that He is God!
Now in order to try and claim this as delivering a message, the burden of proof is upon you to provide the explicit statement that "a message is been delivered", because the Angel of God says "I Am The God Of Bethel" and that it is He who the vow was made to!
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@Ismail-lk7mg
Can anyone defy the will of your Lah when your Lah claims to predestine everything everyone does, so commands are a paradox as they're defunct, and to command us to do, whether we do or do not, is all predestined, if we do not, that's what your Lah predestined, so no one actually defies or goes against Lah, because if Lah predestined us to not follow Lah's command, we're upholding the predestination, if we follow Lah's command, we defy Al-Lah's predestination, so all of us, including Muslims, are all disobedient, us for not accepting or following the commands, you lot for following the commands and being more powerful than Al-Lah because you have defied by overpower meant of Al-Lah's predestination,
Which exposes and busts your Lah as a fraud!
Do you like Al-Lah's self inflicted paradox!?! 😂🤣
Now, can you show me one single verse in your quran where it correctly describes the Trinity!?!
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@alonzoharris6338
Here's how illogical your strategic logic is.....
You think by discrediting our God and our scripture, that you'll be able to lead us astray, to then try and appeal to us to convert to Islam,
But the problem you create, is, if you were to succeed, then you've just discredited your own cult, it's like discrediting the Quran and then saying believe in the Quran,
And additionally, your strategy fails to deal with the questions and points we're making, which we'd still be asking, and you can't answer/refute,
So we wouldn't convert, all your strategy can achieve at best, if you succeeded, is to make us all apostates,
So your Dawah strategy is a flawed parasoxical failure! 😂 🤣
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Mark 5:41-42 indeed does state that the "little girl" was "twelve years old" in the Greek!
Mark 5:41
And having taken the hand of the child (παιδίου), He says to her, "Talitha (ταλιθα), koum!" which is translated, "Little girl, I say to you, arise!"
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
παιδίου - 3813. paidion
little, young child, damsel.
Neuter diminutive of pais; a childling (of either sex), i.e. (properly), an infant, or (by extension) a half-grown boy or girl; figuratively, an immature Christian -- (little, young) child, damsel.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
ταλιθα - 5008. talitha
young girl.
Of Chaldee origin (compare taleh); the fresh, i.e. Young girl; talitha (O maiden) -- talitha.
Mark 5:42
Immediately the girl (κοράσιον) got up and began to walk around. She was twelve (δώδεκα) years old, and at once they were utterly astounded.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
κοράσιον - 2877. korasion
damsel, girl
Neuter of a presumed derivative of kore (a maiden); a (little) girl -- damsel, maid.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
δώδεκα - 1427. dódeka
twelve.
From duo and deka; two and ten, i.e. A dozen -- twelve.
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@alonzoharris6730
Here, I'll apply your fallacy to your cult, Al-Lah has a mind, Jibril has a mind, Muhammad has a mind, the Quran is claimed to be the word of Al-Lah from Al-Lah, transmitted by Jibril to Muhammad, so now because there's 3 minds involved, that means you've got 3 Al-Lah's, and because they're all independant and seperate, that's shirk, you have a pagan pantheon! 😂 🤣
Still want to cling onto your fallacy, because the hypostatic union refutes it, but you don't have that luxury! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
You're so busted! 😂 🤣
So, you're saying what makes us human in nature is that we have a mind, this dictates now that you have to incorporate all animals that have minds, so a cat, a dog, a cow, a pig, a monkey, a bird, etc etc, are all humans by nature according to you!
Now I see why your pagan Sabian thought animals and Insects could talk, but what about trees and stones, do they have minds too!?! 🤔 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Human nature refers to the distinguishing characteristics, including ways of thinking, feeling and acting!
You're seriously confused or just outright desperate! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
So when he quoted David Wood "Prays FOR not TO" Hijab was in error, is that what you're saying!
And dont even try it with me, you should know better by now!.....
33:56, Al-Lah prays FOR not TO, even to bless requires prayer!...
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ 👈يُصَلُّونَ👉 عَلَى ٱلنَّبِيِّۚ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ صَلُّواْ عَلَيۡهِ وَسَلِّمُواْ تَسۡلِيمًا
English Transliteration
Inna Allaha wamala-ikatahu
👉yusalloonaAAala👈 annabiyyi ya ayyuha allatheenaamanoo salloo AAalayhi wasallimoo tasleema
Sad-Lam-Waw = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honour, magnifiy, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
Yusalloona (يصلون) plu. 33:56
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Let's educate mimi hijab on his cult!...
Abdool, your pagan moon god predestines everything, so for your pagan moon god to command anything is a paradox because your pagan moon god is commanding creation to do something that your pagan moon god has already predestined, so commands are defunct, either you're predestined to do, or not to do, if you're in addition commanded to do or not do, well you'll either do it or not do it regardless because that's what your pagan moon god predestined for you!
So, your pagan moon god is liable, responsible, the originator, and father of/for all sin!
If Al-Lah commands you to do something and you don't do it, Al-Lah has commanded you to do something, but Al-Lah has also predestined you not to do the something you're commanded to do,
So who is liable and responsible for the contempt/defiance/disobedience, who is the sinner, who should be punished and sent to hellfire!?! 🤔
BUSTED!!!! 😂🤣🤣
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@youwhat491
Go on, now explain how the bell sound can be distinguished as a completely independent and different sound to that of Jibril's speech,
Jibril's speech uses Arabic, Arabic requires letters, disjointed or not,
So there's a bell sound, and there's speech,
And as the bell sound is the hardest to understand, and you're claiming it's the disjointed letters, then it would be nigh impossible to understand a single verse using words,
It's like saying A, B, C is the hardest to grasp, but I can grasp when the actual word supercalifragilisticexpialidocious is stated as an English word! 😂 🤣
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It's as easy as this!....
Injil, Isa Dawah script
Response: prove Jesus Christ was incarnate, with an injil, followers (Christians), and all the Prophets between Moses & Jesus Christ, were all around during the time of Moses (7:155-157)!
Trinity Dawah script
Response: Al-Lah doesn't dispute the concept of the Trinity, only if the Triune concept applies to Al-Lah, but Al-Lah, Isa, and Maryam have nothing to do with the Trinity, so who cares whether Al-Lah is triune or not, 6:78 proves who Al-Lah is!
That's checkmate, debate in its entirety is over!
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Mo freaked out everytime there was an eclipse! 😂 🤣
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Abbas:
👉Once a solar eclipse occurred👈 during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ).
👉 He offered the eclipse prayer.👈 His companions asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We saw you trying to take something while standing at your place and then we saw you retreating." 👉The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "I was shown Paradise and wanted to have a bunch of fruit from it.👈 Had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 748
In-book reference : Book 10, Hadith 142
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 1, Book 12, Hadith 715 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Sunan Abi Dawud » 👉The Book Of The Prayer For Rain👈(Kitab al-Istisqa')
Narrated Abd Allah b. 'Abbas:
👉The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) prayed👈
👉at 👈👉the solar eclipse👈 as reported in the tradition narrated by 'Urwah from Aishah from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) that he offered two rak'ahs of prayer bowing twice in each rak'ah.
Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني)حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 1181
In-book reference : Book 3, Hadith 21
English translation : Book 3, Hadith 1177
Sunan Abi Dawud » The Book Of The 👉Prayer For Rain👈(Kitab al-Istisqa')
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ)
👉prayed at solar eclipse👈; he recited from the Qur'an and then bowed; then he recited from the Qur'an and then bowed; he then recited from the Qur'an and bowed; he then recited from the Qur'an and bowed. Then he prostrated himself and performed the second rak'ah similar to the first.
Grade: Munkar (Al-Albani) منكر (الألباني)حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 1183
In-book reference : Book 3, Hadith 23
English translation : Book 3, Hadith 1179
Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prayers (Salat)
Chapter: whoever offered Salat (prayer) with furnace or fire or any other worshipable thing in front of him but he 👉intended Salat solely for Allah👈
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Abbas:
👉The sun eclipsed👈and Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) 👉offered the eclipse prayer👈 and said, "I have been shown the Hellfire (now) and I never saw a worse and horrible sight than the sight I have seen today."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 431
In-book reference : Book 8, Hadith 81
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 1, Book 8, Hadith 423 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Sahih Muslim » 👉The Book of Prayer - Eclipses👈
Chapter: 👉The Call For The Eclipse Prayer👈: "As-Salatu Jami'ah (The Prayer Is Being Assembled)
'Abd al-Rahman b. Samura said:
During the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) I was shooting my arrows in Medina, when an eclipse of the sun took place. I, therefore, threw them away and said, I must see how the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) acts in a solar eclipse today. When I came to him, 👉he had been supplicating with his hands, raised,
👉pronouncing Allah-o-Akbar👈,
👉praising Him, acknowledging that He is One God 👈till the eclipse was over, then he recited two surahs and prayed two rak'ahs.
Reference : Sahih Muslim 913 a
In-book reference : Book 10, Hadith 27
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 4, Hadith 1991 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Free a slave when there's an eclipse:
Chapter: Manumitting slaves at the time of eclipses
Narrated Asma' bint Abu Bakr:
The Prophet (ﷺ) ordered us to free slaves at the time of solar eclipses.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2519
In-book reference : Book 49, Hadith 3
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 3, Book 46, Hadith 695 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Chapter: Manumitting slaves at the time of eclipses
Narrated Asma' bint Abu Bakr:
We were ordered to free slaves at the time of lunar eclipses.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2520
In-book reference : Book 49, Hadith 4
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 3, Book 46, Hadith 696 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Chapter: Freeing Slaves During An Eclipse
Narrated Asma:
The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to command us to free slaves on the occasion of an eclipse
Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني)حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 1192
In-book reference : Book 3, Hadith 32
English translation : Book 3, Hadith 1188
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@alonzoharris9049
Mo couldn't tell the difference between Shaytan and Jibril because Jibril possessed Muhammad and operated Muhammad like a puppet!.....
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
(as regards) Allah's Statement: "Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith." (75.16) When Gabriel revealed the Divine Inspiration 👉in👈Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) , 👉he (Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)) moved his tongue and lips👈, and that state used to be very hard for him, and that movement indicated that revelation was taking place. So Allah revealed in Surat Al-Qiyama which begins: 'I do swear by the Day of Resurrection...' (75) the Verses:-- 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith. It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) in your mind, and give you the ability to recite it by heart. (75.16-17) Ibn `Abbas added: It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) (in your mind), and give you the ability to recite it by heart means, "When We reveal it, listen. Then it is for Us to explain it," means, 'It is for us to explain it through your tongue.' So whenever Gabriel came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ' he would keep quiet (and listen), and when the Angel left, the Prophet (ﷺ) would recite that revelation as Allah promised him.
Sahih Al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 451
Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4929
4:48 - Sahih International
Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.
69:44 - Sahih International
And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,
Tafsirs:
Ibn Kathir Tafsir
And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,
If the Prophet forged anything against Allah, then Allah would punish Him
Allah says,
And if he had forged a false saying concerning Us,
meaning, `if Muhammad forged something against Us, as they claim, and added or removed anything from the Message, or said anything from himself while attributing it to Us, then We would surely be swift in punishing him.
And of course, Muhammad did not do any of this (as the disbelievers claimed).'
Thus, Allah says,
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
And if he had invented) and had Muhammad (pbuh) invented (false sayings concerning Us) lies against Us and attributed to Us that which We did not say,
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
And had he namely the Prophet s fabricated any lies against Us by communicating from Us that which We have not said
Tafsir al-Tustari
And had he fabricated any lies against Us, He said:That is, if he said that which he had no permission [from Us] to say.
69:45 - Sahih International
We would have seized him by the right hand;
Tafsirs:
Ibn Kathir Tafsir
We would have seized him by the right hand;
We surely would have seized him by his right hand,
It has been said that this means,
`We would seize him by the right hand because it is more stronger in grabbing.'
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(We assuredly had taken him) We assuredly had taken revenge against him (by the right hand) by means of truth and proofs; it is also said this means: We assuredly had vehemently taken him.
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
We would have assuredly seized him We would have exacted vengeance against him as punishment by the Right Hand by Our strength and power;
Tafsir al-Tustari
We would assuredly have seized him by the right hand,That is, We would have ordered for him to be seized by the hand just as is the practice of kings.
69:46 - Sahih International
Then We would have cut from him the aorta.
Tafsirs:
Ibn Kathir Tafsir
Then We would have cut from him the aorta.
And then We certainly would have cut off Al-Watin from him,
Ibn `Abbas said,
"It (Al-Watin) refers to the artery of the heart, and it is the vein that is attached to the heart."
This has also been said by `Ikrimah, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Al-Hakim, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak, Muslim Al-Batin and Abu Sakhr Humayd bin Ziyad.
Muhammad bin Ka`b said,
"It (Al-Watin) is the heart, its blood, and whatever is near it."
Concerning Allah's statement,
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And then severed his life artery) the life artery of Muhammad (pbuh)
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
then We would have assuredly severed his life-artery the aorta of the heart a vein that connects with it and which if severed results in that person’s death
Tafsir al-Tustari
And We would assuredly have severed his life-artery (wartīn),This being the aorta which is the main artery to which the heart is attached, and if it is cut the person dies. We would cut it off as a result of his transgression against Us.His words, Exalted is He:
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@alonzoharris9049
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
In-book : Book 64, Hadith 450
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 713 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Hurairah:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) would accept a present, but would not accept alms (sadaqah). And Wahb bin Baqiyyah narrated to us, elsewhere, from Khalid, from Muhammad ibn Amr said on the authority of Abu Salamah, and he did not mention the name of Abu Hurairah: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to accept presents but not alms (sadaqah).
This version adds: So a Jewess presented him at Khaybar with a roasted sheep which she had poisoned. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ate of it and the people also ate.
He then said: Take away your hands (from the food), for it has informed me that it is poisoned. Bishr ibn al-Bara' ibn Ma'rur al-Ansari died.
So he (the Prophet) sent for the Jewess (and said to her): What motivated you to do the work you have done?
She said: If you were a prophet, it would not harm you; but if you were a king, I should rid the people of you. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) then ordered regarding her and she was killed. He then said about the pain of which he died: I continued to feel pain from the morsel which I had eaten at Khaybar. This is the time when it has cut off my aorta.
Hasan Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4512
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 19
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4497
Narrated Ibn Ka'b b. Malik:
On the authority of his father: Umm Mubashshir said to the Prophet (ﷺ) during the sickness of which he died: What do you think about your illness, Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)? I do not think about the illness of my son except the poisoned sheep of which he had eaten with you at Khaybar. The Prophet (ﷺ) said: And I do not think about my illness except that. This is the time when it cut off my aorta.
Abu Dawud said: Sometime 'Abd al-Razzaq transmitted this tradition, omitting the link of the Companion, from Ma'mar, from al-Zuhri, from the Prophet (ﷺ), and sometimes he transmitted it from al-Zuhri from 'Abd al-Rahman b. Ka'b b. Malik, 'Abd al-Rahman mentioned that Ma'mar sometimes transmitted the tradition in a mursal form (omitting the link of the Companion), and they recorded it. And all this is correct with us. 'Abd al-Razzaq said: When Ibn al-Mubarak came to Ma'mar, he transmitted the traditions in a musnad form (with a perfect chain) which he transmitted as mauquf traditions (statements of the Companions and not of the Prophet).
Sahih in chain (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4513
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 20
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4499
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@timo7404
Answer me this....
If our sin is the representative of the grenade, and Jesus threw himself on the grenade to save us from the grenade, did Jesus make us sin in order to save us from the sin!?!
If you try to claim so, then you're reliant on predestination which contradicts free will,
Do you really want to try and debate that claim with Bob, me, or any of my brothers and sisters here, because if so, let me ensure you're informed, we will easily be able to expose such a fallacy through ignorance!?!
Al-Lah the assimilatory pagan moon gods (yes, gods plural) pre destines, so if you want to dispute pre destination, go find a muslim NOT a Christian! 😂
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Would a muslim like to explain the following Quranic paradox.....
The Quran is claimed to be the word of Al-Lah, received by Muhammad via Jibril as a revelation recited,
If that's the case, then why is Al-Lah in multiple verses quoting Muhammad post statement ("he said/the prophet said), not commanding Muhammad (say/tell the people....)!?!.....
How can a quotation of a statement already stated become a revelation!?!....
Did Jibril have to take Muhammad's statement, recite it to Al-Lah and then Al-Lah gave Al-Lah's stamp of approval, sent Jibril back, and then told Muhammad to repeat himself!?!....
This dictates that Muhammad is giving Al-Lah revelations, guidance, direction, and Al-Lah then gives Muhammad's statement a stamp of approval post statement!....
So who is now the god in the quran, Muhammad, Al-Lah, or do we have shirk!?! 🤔
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@mnoorbhai
Seriously, if English isn’t your first language check it before you post it, because you’re not making any sort of sense whatsoever!…
The only coherent relevant part of your response is Godlogic referring to the square, circle, and triangle, he never said they were merged as one, you clearly didn’t listen, and by default understand, what Godlogic was stating, now, if you want to try debating the Trinity with me, I can debate this topic, want to try and take me on!?!
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@aaronharun1394H
Why did you corrupt Numbers 23:19!?!.....
Go on, quote the entire verse, do you think we don't know what our scripture says, you're more dense than your pagan Sabian! 😂 🤣
And you've exposed an error in the Quran, no Christian ever claimed Jesus to be the Father, that's not the Trinity! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Al-Lah isn't the Father, and Isa isn't Jesus, so on that factual basis, I'll agree, Jesus never claimed to be Al-Lah, Jesus never even acknowledged or mentioned Al-Lah!
Oh, and you've exposed a contradiction in the Quran, how can Al-Lah claim to be claimed to be Isa, but then be alongside Isa with Maryam!?!
Go on, explain how that works exactly!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
Yawn, just using definitions I'll destroy your fallacy! 😂 🤣 🤣
👉If what makes God God is👈....
Being:
The state or quality of having existence: synonym: existence.
The totality of all things that exist.
A person.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1 a: the quality or state of having existence.
b(1): something that is conceivable and hence capable of existing
(2): something that actually exists
(3): the totality of existing things
c: conscious existence: Life
2: the qualities that constitute an existent thing: Essence Personality
3: a living thing sentient beings a mythical being: Person
Merriam Webster
1. The state or quality of having existence: technical advances that have only recently come into being. See Synonyms at existence.
2. The totality of all things that exist: theologians who hold that the mind of God is the source of all being.
3.
a. A person: "The artist after all is a solitary being" (Virginia Woolf).
b. An individual form of life; an organism: "We [humans] are the only beings who are aware that we shall die" (Seyyed Hossein Nasr).
c. An imaginary, conjectural, or supernatural creature: extraterrestrial beings.
4.
a. All the qualities constituting one that exists; the essence: the very being of human nature.
b. One's basic or essential nature: "[My grandfather's] face, words and gestures are a permanent part of my being" (Duane Nitatum).
conj. Chiefly Southern US, Upper Southern US, & New England
Because; since. Often used with as or that.
The Free Dictionary
a person or thing that exists:
The Cambridge Dictionary
Being is the present participle of be1
Collins Dictionary
the fact of existing; existence (as opposed to nonexistence).
conscious, mortal existence; life
substance or nature
something that exists
a living thing
Dictionary. Com
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉Then we first have to establish what is
the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉And how many 👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉There are👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉If it is established that the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉Is NOT to be hypostatic, but identified and established as something else, then by default the number of the hypostasis becomes irrelevant, and therefore to claim hypostatic orientation becomes a strawman, as the hypostasis and any number of the hypostasis involved are irrelevant in regards to the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
This includes by default......
Definition of Self:
The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual.
The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another; individuality.
One's consciousness of one's own being or identity; the ego.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1a (1): an individual's typical character or behavior
her true self was revealed
(2): an individual's temporary behavior or character
his better self
b: a person in prime condition
feel like my old self today
2: the union of elements (such as body, emotions, thoughts, and sensations) that constitute the individuality and identity of a person
Merriam Webster
the set of someone's characteristics, such as personality and ability, that are not physical and make that person different from other people
Cambridge Dictionary
1. The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual.
2. The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another; individuality.
3. One's consciousness of one's own being or identity; the ego.
4. One's own interests, welfare, or advantage.
5. Immunology That which the immune system identifies as belonging to the body: tissues no longer recognized as self.
The Free Dictionary
noun, plural selves [selvz].
a person or thing referred to with respect to complete individuality: one's own self.
a person's nature, character, etc.
Philosophy:
the ego; that which knows, remembers, desires, suffers, etc., as contrasted with that known, remembered, etc.
the uniting principle, as a soul, underlying all subjective experience.
Definition of consciousness:
The state or condition of being conscious.
A sense of one's personal or collective identity, including the attitudes, beliefs, and sensitivities held by or considered characteristic of an individual or group.
Special awareness or sensitivity.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1a: the quality or state of being aware especially of something within oneself.
b: the state or fact of being conscious of an external object, state, or fact.
c: AWARENESS
especially : concern for some social or political cause.
The organization aims to raise the political consciousness of teenagers.
2: the state of being characterized by sensation, emotion, volition, and thought : MIND
3: the totality of conscious states of an individual.
4: the normal state of conscious life
regained consciousness.
5: the upper level of mental life of which the person is aware as contrasted with unconscious processes.
Merriam Webster
the state of understanding and realizing something
the state of being awake, thinking, and knowing what is happening around you.
Cambridge Dictionary
the state of being conscious; awareness of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, surroundings, etc.
the thoughts and feelings, collectively, of an individual or of an aggregate of people.
full activity of the mind and senses, as in waking life.
awareness of something for what it is; internal knowledge.
concern, interest, or acute awareness.
the mental activity of which a person is aware as contrasted with unconscious mental processes.
Philosophy. the mind or the mental faculties as characterized by thought, feelings, and volition.
Dictionary. Com
consciousness [kon´shus-nes]
1. the state of being conscious; fully alert, aware, oriented, and responsive to the environment.
2. subjective awareness of the aspects of cognitive processing and the content of the mind.
3. the current totality of experience of which an individual or group is aware at any time.
4. in psychoanalysis, the conscious.
5. in Newman's conceptual model, health as expanding consciousness, the informational capacity of the human system, or its capacity for interacting with the environment; consciousness is considered to be coextensive with the universe, residing in all matter.
Medical Dictionary
Definition of Will:
1. The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides upon a course of action: championed freedom of will against a doctrine of predetermination.
2.
a. Diligent purposefulness; determination: an athlete with the will to win.
b. Self-control; self-discipline: lacked the will to overcome the addiction.
3. A desire, purpose, or determination, especially of one in authority: It is the sovereign's will that the prisoner be spared.
4. Deliberate intention or wish: Let it be known that I took this course of action against my will.
5. Free discretion; inclination or pleasure: wandered about, guided only by will.
6. Bearing or attitude toward others; disposition: full of good will.
The free dictionary
👉Can a human being be a person, or are they 2, seperate persons!?!....Let's take a look shall we!👈.....
Definition of a human being:
A human.
A person; a large sapient, bipedalprimate, with notably less hair than others of that order, of the species Homo sapiens.
Another, extinct member of the genus Homo
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
Human
Merriam Webster
a member of any of the races of Homo sapiens; person; man, woman, or child
1. any individual of the genus Homo, esp. a member of the species Homo sapiens.
2. a person, esp. as distinguished from other animals or as representing the human species: conditions not fit for human beings.
The Free Dictionary
A person
Cambridge Dictionary
A human being is a human child or adult.
Collins Dictionary
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@generaljg4373
Quran 5:46 claims the injil to be our entire Bible, and you've just rejected the injil, that's one of your pillars of faith rejected right there!
Go on, say you believe in the Quran and make the same claim, you can then trigger 4:137 and become a permanent apostate!....
And you can't have one Quran, because one states a command ("Say") from Al-Lah, the other states Muhammad speaking ("he said"), so regardless the fact that this would dictate shirk as proven below, you still have multiple different Arabic Qurans! 😂 🤣
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
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The killer joke is, he claims that 3 minds are 3 natures, so he's claiming by default that his Al-Lah has a mind, but can only have one of the attributes of Al-Lah, each attribute, which is divine in its nature, has to be a seperate mind, a seperate Al-Lah! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
But in 15:58-66, as you've seen me mention numerous times, Al-Lah is the 3 that visit Abraham, so now Al-Lah is 3 minds! 😂 🤣 🤣
Also, because we all have a mind, only one human being now in the entire past, present, and future could ever have human nature, because he believes that each nature is mind and each are different natures,
So who was the only human with human nature, and what is each and every other humans nature if not human! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
His fallacy is so flimsy and brittle that if the lion sneezed a kitten out its nostrils, the sneeze would break his fallacy! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@veiledwoman1256
Oh my poor deluded dear muslima, let me show you a few things about your Al-Lah,
Al-Lah is on earth 6:3, so what shape/form does Al-Lah have if not a man!?!
Where does ٱللَّهِ refer to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه (Jehovah)!?!
Al-Lah is 3 disconnected hypostatic creations in 15:58, 59, 60, & 66!
Al-Lah in 21:17 is partially defunct, because Al-Lah has male reproductive organs that aren't used!
22:24, Al-Lah states an oxymoron claiming nothing is to be associated with Al-Lah whilst claiming kaaba is associated with Al-Lah, is the kaaba not created!?!
Al-Lah claims in 17:44 that no one needs to be Muslim as everyone is supposedly already glorifying Al-Lah, which contradicts 9:29 as do
2:139, 4:146, 7:29, 9:91, 10:22, 29:65, 31:32, 39:2, 39:11, 39:14, 40:14, 40:65, 66:8, & 98:5 contradict 9:29!
22:52 & 39:37 is an additional contradiction that proves all Quranic prophets false, and all trigger 4:82!
And Jesus Christ isn't mentioned once in the Quran, not one verse states Yasue Al-Masih, and Isa is a Levite from the time of Moses, so wrong tribe and time, and Ahmed Deedat claimed that Isa is an Arabic translation of Esau not Jesus!
So who is Isa!?!
48:9 you're commanded to Glorify Muhammad not Al-Lah!
28:58 Al-Lah is multiple inheritors regardless of claiming royal we or not, the plurality stands and applies regardless!
So Al-Lah, Muhammad, the Quran, have absolutely nothing to do with Abraham, the Prophets, Jesus Christ, Jews, Christians, or our Scriptures, that's why you can't find Muhammad anywhere in our Scriptures, because he's nothing to do with them or us!
By all means, bring your Imam, your brother, dad, your grandfather, I will debate, and show you all, that you need to come to the only way to eternal life, and that is through the Lord Jesus Christ, He is your creator, the true God, your Saviour, not Al-Lah!
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Fao El Saint!....
Selected Ahadith by Suyuti
2093 - Jihad in the path of Al-Lah is tourism for my Ummah
2754 - "Now, we invade them and they will not invade us"
2778 - "Islam dominates, and is not dominated over"
9:29 - Sahih International
Fight (Qatiloo (to kill)) those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Al-Qurtubi Tafsir
3:56
Al-Jami’s Interpretation of the Rulings of the Qur’an / Al-Qurtubi (d. 671 AH) is classified & verified
Al-Lah Almighty says: {As for those who have disbelieved, I torment them severely in the world and in the hereafter} which means killing, crucifixion, exile, and punishment, and in the Hereafter with fire.
تفسير الجامع لاحكام القرآن/ القرطبي (ت 671 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
قوله تعالى: { فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَٱلآخِرَةِ } يعني بالقتل والصلب والسبي والجِزية، وفي الآخرة بالنار.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4557
In-book reference : Book 65, Hadith 79
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 80 (deprecated numbering scheme)
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@generaljg4373
Adam's original sin in Islam proves predestination and that Al-Lah is liable as the creator and predestinator of sin!
And because Al-Lah predestines, Al-Lah could've predestined no sin in the first place!
So what is the point, purpose, and relevance of sin, predestination dictates that sin and punishment of sin are unnecessary!
Al-Lah is a sin/ful god who is just playing games with creation, making creation sin in order to punish creation, and creating impossible, inescapable, positions, situations, scenarios, and circumstances where creation can only but sin in order that Al-Lah can punish those Al-Lah chooses to put in such positions, situations, scenarios, and circumstances!
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses argued with each other. Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are our father who disappointed us and turned us out of Paradise.' Then Adam said to him, 'O Moses! Allah favored you with His talk (talked to you directly) and He wrote (the Torah) for you with His Own Hand. Do you blame me for action which Allah had written in my fate forty years before my creation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adam confuted Moses," the Prophet (ﷺ) added, repeating the Statement three times.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6614
In-book: Book 82, Hadith 20
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 77, Hadith 611 (deprecated)
And its repeated over and over in..
Sahih al-Bukhari 3409
In-book: Book 60, Hadith 82
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 621 (deprecated)
Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 260
Arabic: Book 65, Hadith 4736
Sahih al-Bukhari 7515
In-book: Book 97, Hadith 140
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 93, Hadith 606 (deprecated)
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@mimmiekgaditse1517
I see you're looking and spoiling for an argument!...You've picked the wrong person to challenge!
You've exposed yourself as nothing more than a Wurzle Gummidge spewer!
Right at the end of your statement, you exposed and refuted yourself and proved my statement and point!
Shamsi runs, as do the majority, this Muslim didn't, therefore, by default, he has a sturdier spine than the rest of the regular dawahdools!....
My statement and point is proven!...
All other points you've stated are Wurzle Gummidges because having a sturdy spine doesn't necessitate telling the truth, answering questions asked directly, or stating approval or disapproval of a deplorable act, he just has to stand his ground, state his position, and engage with his opponent and the topic!.....
Now answer the questions...
Did he stand his ground, state his position, and engage with his opponent and the topic!?!.....
Was he acknowledged by both Bob and the abdools as trying to represent his cult!?!
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@mimmiekgaditse1517
Are these flimsy strawmen the best you've got! 😂 🤣
You claimed lack of a sturdy spine is based on the accusations that he lied, answered questions he wasn't asked, dodged questions, after 30 mins accepted the deplorable child marriage, and then you finished off claiming that all he was missing was running like shamsi!....
Lying is deception orientated, it's not sturdy or lacking spine orientated!
Furthermore, a lie, & belief in/attempting to justify the belief in a lie are two different things!
And as all the regular dawahdools run from Bob, he's proven he's got a sturdier spine than they have!
If answering questions that he wasn't asked, that's fallacy orientated, not sturdy or lacking spine orientated!
Dodged questions is avoidance and refusal to answer a question orientated, not sturdy or lack of spine orientated!
Acceptance of deplorable child marriage is to stand by what his deplorable cult sanctions orientated, not sturdy spine orientated!
Shamsi as an example of regular dawahdools responsive behaviour aka Shamsi, and the regulars running from Bob, proves and affirms my point!.....
If he didn't run, then he has a sturdier spine than they do, he at least tried to defend and justify the deplorable sanctions and commands in his cult, regardless of his typical Dawah scripted strategies and tactics!
And this refutes your paradoxical oxymoronic fallacy!
And I didn't suggest he's alone, there's plenty of dawahdools that aren't regulars, or are only just starting to show up regular, who are more engaging, and they all have sturdier spines, partly because they're novices in regards to speakers corner, but the regulars, the likes of shamsi, hijab, lilli dawah, hashim, mansur, adnan, hamza, etc etc, all run from Bob because they know they will be exposed and busted along with their cult, and would lose out on their financial gains aswel as discredit themselves!
And notice how you can't even answer my questions, you're just as spineless as the regular dawahdools!....
Mimmie Shamsi! 😂 🤣
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Let's see if you can maybe answer just one thought experiment question....
Let's say you try and engage with regulars at Speakers Corner who believe the sky is green and the grass is blue, those regulars run from the topic and debating you,
And then you find a visitor to speakers corner who believes the same as the regulars and actually engages with you on this topic and amongst any lies, scripted nonsense he's been fed, answering questions you never asked, dodging a question or two, in attempts to justify it, and in the end agrees and accepts that his Doctrine does state what it states, but doesn't run, he stays until the end of the interaction, still stands by what he believes, regardless of the facts and your opinion,
Did the individual, or did the individual not, have a sturdier spine than the regulars for at least engaging with you and staying until the end, regardless of his conduct during the interaction and the end result!?!
Watch how you try and avoid answering my question, again! 😂
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@mimmiekgaditse1517
And look at that, even you've had to admit that the regular Dawah target ignorant Christians, but I'm not talking about ignorant Christians, I'm talking about the regular dawahdools running from Bob, not having a spine to debate Bob!
It's as simple as that, this Muslim had a sturdier spine because he hasn't and didn't run from Bob, he handled himself in a civil manner, even Bob acknowledged this fact, and the Muslim stayed until the end, and both were happy to have ongoing discussions/debates in the future!
Now answer my questions!
If you dodge them one more time, then everyone can see your fallacies are exposed and you're busted as an ignoramus spoiling for an argument and ended up biting off more than is possible to chew by picking the wrong Christian to try and bring your ignorant fallaciousness to!
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@mimmiekgaditse1517
Well you've just exposed and busted yourself again, you're a hypocrite!
You say you're careful to be respectful to those who speak respectfully, I was respectful in my initial statement, I've been respectful toward you,
You're the one who has come here running your mouth spoiling for an argument, and you're the one who has been disrespectful in regards to the Muslim Bob was talking to!
You've strawmanned my statement in order to try and instigate the argument, and now you're crying because you've realised that your feeble strawmen have failed you!
I don't need to be a legend in order to expose and bust the likes of you, I've never claimed to be one, and still, no answers to my questions, says it all and proves my point, you can't answer because you and I both know you're in a catch 22! 😂
If you perceive anything I've stated based on the observational facts regarding your conduct here as disrespectful, well the truth hurts sometimes! 😂
Oh, and I haven't stated an argument or claim, as stated, I've exposed and busted you, and asked you questions! 😂
Kid, come back to me when you can actually answer my questions!
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@thetruthwithproof8802
Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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@Daniella Naeem
And you say false, well you follow a possessed false prophet that Al-Lah had to put down due to all the lies and for prostrating/worshipping Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat,
Al-Lah does make it clear in 4:48 that shirk is unforgiveable,
And we all know that a lying prophet gets their aorta cut, and we all know how mo popped his sandals!
Even 22:52 & 39:37 contradict, so again 4:82 is triggered, and all your Quranic prophets are false, including mo, because if you're revealing satanic verses, then you're misguided, unless Al-Lah is Shaytan, because Al-Lah says, once guided, none will be misguided, and surely a prophet would be the most guided and protected of all! 😂🤣
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@daniyalnaeem1404
Your English is so poor, but I think what you're trying to say is you're going with the contraction claim, right, you actually think Al-Lah is a contraction of al-ilah, that's so cute!
😂🤣🤣
Abdool!......Al-Lah is a name not a title ("the god"), surah, 1:1 affirms it,
Go on, tell me, surah 1:1,
"in the NAME of the god",
What's the NAME (singular) of "the god", I assume this is important information all Muslims should know!
And why is Al-Lah saying in the name of "the god" isn't Al-Lah "the god", does Al-Lah now have a god, is it that other god that Al-Lah prays to!?!
This is grammatically incorrect and problematic on so many levels!
Also, Al-Lah mentions to have many names, where does Al-Lah specify and identify each name, where does Al-Lah affirm a set number of names!?!
And for the record, the lam has multiple functions, as a letter, as a preposition, and it has an sassimilatory function aswel!
There's no contraction by omission of letters, because, Lah isn't short for ilah, the Lam in Lah is incorporating the assimilatory function and the preposition as is dictated due to the definate article "Al" preceding the word Lah,
So, what does this mean, in short, your Al-Lahs name without the lam utilising the assimilatory function would be al-Lilah or al-laLah,
See how messed up it becomes, so, the lam assimilated the li/la into the lam in Lah, add the definately article, you get Al-Lah,
And etymologically, Lah is identical to Iah the name of the Egyptian moon god Iah with an i, and the i in yah functions the same as the Arabic Lam,
So Iah translated into Arabic, from the Egyptian hieroglyphs becomes Lah!
And I've used the relevant lexicons, so don't even go there abdool, and I know you haven't done any research like this, but by all means, you go ahead and try and refute me, just make sure you bring your proof!
😂 🤣
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@thekidno1talks278
Don't even try that Da'if Taqiyya with me!....
I can easily post one verse in Hafs and Warsh and not only prove you have multiple different Arabic qurans, but also that you end up with shirk!
And to even think that you can dare try and discredit the Bible when your ignorance dictates you'll reject the quran by default!
And finally, you want to talk about respect when your fake pagan Sabian, in the name of your fake pagan moon demon, as is documented in your post it note scrapbook of incoherent ramblings of a madman along with your other sources insult and mock our God, Christians, Christianity, Jews, and basically anyone who isn't an abdool, don't even dare try and come playing the wounded victim with me abdool!
And abdool, just like the rest of the abdools in the video, around the world, none of you can provide the evidence and proof you're burdened with thanks to your Da'if Taqiyya Bid'ah claims, and that's what was proven in this video!
Time to realise and accept, your outdated, overused, stale,worn out Taqiyya Bid'ah script doesn't work anymore! 😂
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@alonzoharris9049
What's that got to do with my comment!?! 😂 🤣
And if we're talking racial stereotypes, you've just proven yourself a hypocrite racist because you're implying that all white Christians are racist, yet your cult stereotypes all non believers as unclean, and only white is good, black is bad, white goes to jannah, black goes to hellfire!....
You even falsely accuse Christians of shirk, you even extend this claim to polytheists like Hindus, but it's an oxymoron, because we don't believe in Al-Lah, so can't ever be guilty of shirk, because we'd first have to believe in and worship Al-Lah, only Muslims do! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
Where's the original injil from the time of Moses (7:155-157)!?!
Wheres the copy Waraqa was translating from!?!
Where's Waraqa's copy!?!
You're the one making claims but don't have a jot of evidence to back your claim, which by default means your Quran can't prove itself true! 😂 🤣
Go on, bring your proof and evidence! Because if you try and claim its our scripture in any way, shape, or form, then 5:46-47 affirms our scripture, as do your Hadiths, ibn kathir, and ibn Taymiyyah too!
All in all, I'd actually say they'd be more credible than you, and even then,they still get your cult busted! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
Abdool, Iah is etymologically identical to the etymology of Lah, the "i" in Iah, and the Lam in Lah, both contain an assimilated preposition, yes abdool, I know that the Lam is multifincrional, it's a letter, a preposition, and it assimilated the preposition to maintain grammatical correctness when necessary!....
There's no preposition in the etymology of the Name Yahweh, I'm not suggesting, I've checked, it's a fact!
So, your Lah is Iah, but Yahweh can't be affiliated with either Iah or Lah!
It's simply a case of translation between Egyptian hieroglyphs and the Arabic!
Iah is assimilatory in nature (tawheed) and Sin is one of those assimilated, and your Al-Lah is identified as Sin in 6:78! 😂 🤣
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@ahmadmuzakkir6792
Abdool! The Birmingham manuscript isn't a complete quran, the earliest complete quran you have is around 9th century! 😂
And also, the earliest reference you have to Isa is from the time of Uthman (Tubingen Manuscript), and guess what, same time period, there was a Persian called Abu Isa who was a false Messiah!
Prove your Mad-ham-mu ever mentioned Isa, prove your Isa isn't Abu Isa the false Messiah!
Bet that surprised you, left you feeling shocked, impressed even.....That I actually have knowledge in regards to your manuscripts! 😂 🤣
Ive done my research abdool, when I make a claim, I make sure I knkw what I'm talking about and can back it up!
By all means, go check your few manuscript scraps prior to the Tubingen Manuscript, you won't find Isa! 😂
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@OSS009
Thank you for going to al-Fatiha and claiming it to be the "greatest surah", because it's about to get you and your cult busted!.....
1:1, Al-Lah is a name not a title, to claim Al-Lah to be NOT a name but the title "the god" creates a major dilemma and problem for you,
What's the name of Al-Lah if Al-Lah is just the title, you agree, this surah is of vital importance, it's "the greatest" in your words, so,
Either Al-Lah IS the Name of Al-Lah, which busts Al-Lah instantly as Al-Lah doesn't translate to Yahweh, and Al-Lah isn't Yahweh by Al-Lah's own admission,
Or, you can affirm what the name of "the god" is, to prove and affirm what the name of "the god" is, and then prove that name to be in our scripture, as our God, otherwise 1:1 has just busted your cult, and become defunct, because you're meant to say in the name of "the god" but don't know what name to say in the name of!
So which is it!?! 🤔 😂 🤣 🤣
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@OSS009
Thank you again, your Al-Lah actually affirms in 29:46 that we worship 1 God, who isn't Al-Lah, and backs it up in 9:29, then contradicts 9:29 in 9:30, first no belief, then belief, and all contradicts 5:116, and 5:116 isn't the Trinity, one because to claim Triunity as "3 Gods" is an oxymoron, and two, no Christian ever claimed Al-Lah, Isa the Levite Dajjal, or Maryam to be anything to do with the Trinity, so thanks, you've just decimated your cult for me! 😂 🤣
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@jooo7011
Yeah! I think they're having emotional breakdowns because they've become so reliant on their Deedat/Naik Taqiyya Bid'ah gravy train script as it's worked whilst we allowed ourselves to become and remain ignorant, and now the gravy train has derailed, they're in shock, and don't know what to do, or how to handle a situation where we now are the superior in knowledge, we're tearing their cult apart with facts and truths, so their only compelled response is to lash out, they want to remain in the darkness of the Taqiyya Bid'ah, safely wrapped up in their blissful ignorance,
But we won't let that roll or slide! No way! Our Lord is the Truth and the Way, He is the Light and the Life, and His Light will always shine brighter than any sun, and there's nowhere His Light can't reach and/or penetrate!
Abdoolam is finished, it's only a matter of time, they can cling on all they like, but it's futile, inevitable, it's taking its last breaths, it's aorta has been cut, it's dying! 😂
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@SeanBeatsMapson
God bless you,
But if you check, the individual is claiming in other comments that Al-Lah doesn't exist, so I find it interesting that everyone is blindly assuming this individual is an abdool and not an atheist,
I'm reserving that judgment to establish the individual as an atheist first!....
And my asking the individual to prove their claim is a challenge, it in no way implies that I believe that this claim has any shape or form of relevance as to whether Jesus is God or not,
Same as you've spotted the strawlephant in the room, it's a fallacy,
So let the individual try and prove their fallacy, that's my challenge to them,
By default, the fallacy will become exposed and the individual proven an ignorant ultracrepidarian! 😂
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@truthserumbackup4151
Hahaha! That's your best evidence,
Well, allow me to retort!....
If Jesus became incarnate, and has both a Divine and Human Nature, and science is what you're reliant on, then scientifically you need to prove Jesus never had a Divine Nature!
Your appealing to science actually doesn't disprove this, if anything all you're doing is affirming that Jesus was incarnate, He exists,
So bring the scientific evidence to disprove His Divinity!
And if you can't, then you're actually in a bit of a sticky situation, because we then have to go to what Jesus is proven to have stated, and is scientifically proven to be the documented words of Christ!....
Now, do you really think you know our scripture well enough to challenge us on that, the fact that Jesus declared He is God!?! 😂 🤣
Oh dear! I thought seen as you were so confident and cocky, you'd actually have a better argument than this! 😂 🤣
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@syedhasan5861
Hahaha, your entire essay is so fallacious aka not Christian Theology!
And if it's not Christian Theology, then your waffle is irrelevant! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
However, you worship Mad-ham-mu alongside Al-Lah, 48:9 you're commanded to Glorify him, his name even means praised one, and claim blasphemy if Mad-ham-mu is insulted, Al-Lah also thinks the Trinity is Modalism, rejects Modalism, then associates Isa with Al-Lah, Al-Lah has a spirit that's distinct from Al-Lah, and isn't Isa, but all now are meant to be one Al-Lah,
How can you have 4 Al-Lahs, 1 dead, and the remainder claiming to be a warped pagan trinity, and guess what, Al-Lah and Isa aren't the Father or Jesus, Al-Lah affirms it when contradicting Al-Lah in 9:29-30,
Fight until believe in Al-Lah while believing Al-Lah to be Isa!
How does that work!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@truthserumbackup4151
I'm still waiting for your evidence and proof, as an atheist your own belief is a paradox!.......
You reject God's existence, but can't disprove God's existence so by default you can only be an agnostic, otherwise you're affirming God's existence, and you're rejecting God for existing! 😂 🤣
And you think that by you making a claim, we then have to prove your claim wrong, but you've failed thus far to provide any sort of evidence and proof to back up and support your claim!......You need to prove your claim!
I mean, if I say that Superman exists and lives on Krypton, I'm not providing any evidence, and you now have to prove that I'm wrong, do you accept this as a fact just because I've said so!?! 😂 🤣
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Does this mean Cambridge University will ban Islam, the quran, hadiths, and tafsirs, because they independantly and collectively indoctrinate and incite supremacism, hatred, violence, and terrorism against all who don't accept the fake assimilatory pagan moon god Al-Lah (Sin/Osiris/Almakkah (6:78 & 53:19-20)), the fake pagan Sabian soothsayer prophet wannabe (muhammad), aswel as child marriage (paedophilia (4:3)), anti semitism, Christophopbia (9:29)!?!
Hamas, ISIS, etc etc, are merely orthodox Muslims practicing the orthodoxy of their fake pagan Sabian cult as is commanded by their fake pagan moon god and their fake pagan Sabian soothsayer !
Those who call who call themselves Muslims and don't practice this cult in an orthodox manner, aren't Muslims, but all who claim to be Muslim are complicit and liable for the actions of those being orthodox (Hamas, ISIS, etc etc) because they're enabling it, as are all ignorant ultracrepidarian non Muslims who spout nonsense like "Islam is a religion, it's peaceful, Hamas, ISIS etc etc aren't being Muslims/following Islam!"
You're all going to regret itt the day what happened in Israel happens here in the UK, you've already had a taste (grooming gangs, the pro Palestinian protests), just wait until they go tali an style and start beating your door down enforcing 9:29 on you all, taking your women and children, offering you the ultimatum of convert, or pay the protection money to Muslims so Muslims don't kill you, or you can refuse both and they'll kill you for refusing!
Because quran states that if we reject Al-Lah, Mo, and the Quran, then you're an enemy of Al-Lah, Al-Lah's angels, and mo!
And the doctrine commands/compels Muslims to hate non believers while smiling in their faces (Taqiyya), Muslims can't take non Muslims as friends, or protectors,
Watch how when Muslims claim Islam to be a "religion of peace" they quote 5:32, well unless Muslims are claiming to be Jews, then they're blatantly lying through their teeth!
You're all part of the problem, you're complicit too, because your ignorance is allowing the likes of Hamas and ISIS to thrive,
So stop trying to apply a fallacious distinction between Islam and the likes of Hamas, ISIS etc etc, deal with the elephant in the room, the source of all this evil madness, deal with Islam!
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@marcrachmat7467
You've just exposed your fallacy for all to see & busted yourself, your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, Quran, and cult!
Everything you've claimed as "the being" (existence), that is Divine and identified as God, is Nature and Esscence orientated NOT Hypostasis orientated, so if 3 Hypostasis have 1 and the same Divine Nature and Esscence unifying the 3 aka Triunity, then God can be 1 and Triune! 😂 🤣
And using your fallacious logic, the fact that each divine attribute of Al-Lah is an independant divine attribute, and they're assimilated (tawheed) into 1 hypostasis, proves Al-Lah is 99 divine natures/attributes, this dictates you have 99 Al-Lahs plus a single hypostasis (100 Al-Lahs total)!
Al-Lah isn't, and can't be, the God of the Bible, and by default isn't, and can't be, the God of Adam - Abraham - date!
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Alonzo Harris is still repeating this oxymoron!
It's hilarious, Al-Lah isn't in the Bible because Al-Lah is a name (1:1), Al-Lah declares Al-Lah is Nanna/Sin (6:78), so Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, Al-Lah is busted as a fraud! 😂 🤣 🤣
There's not even a single mention of Jesus Christ in the Quran!
Alonzo can't even show us Al-Lah, Ahmed/Ahmad, or Isa/Esau son of Maryam, nephew of Moses in the Bible, simply put, Alonzo can't even prove a single verse that his Al-Lah, crazed pagan Sabian, or incoherent post it note scrap book claims! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Here's how to answer, expose, and refute Siraj the Mirage's fallacious question (if Jesus existed before the world was, then how come none of the prophets practiced Christianity and claimed Triunity?).....
Siraj, we say Jesus exists eternally, Jesus became the Christ, incarnate, in order to be the Christ (our Salvation)!
Jesus became the Christ when it was time to secure our Salvation (be the Christ), and He's there if we want Him (our Salvation)!
Siraj's fallacious logic now dictates Jesus existing before His incarnation necessitates Him to eternally be the Christ and to suffer over and over per prophet, this is some of the highest ranking ignorance and ultracrepidarianism I've ever heard/witnessed, Dawah parrots are either getting desperate or dimmer! 😂🤣🤣
Now Siraj, Triunity,
Your entire claim is fallacious because it's reliant/dependant on hypostatic divinity, Bible is clear that our God's Divinity is Naturistic/Esscence not Hypostatic!
Now this backfires on you, because if Al-Lah's claim to divinity is hypostatic, then regardless of claims to tawheed (unification) of Al-Lah's hypostasis, nature, attributes, Al-Lah is multiple divinities, divinity is what makes God God, so by default your fallacy dictates your Al-Lah is shirk, and you're all shirky! 😂🤣
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@tariqthebiblicalscholar5865
You dutty stink son of temporary giddy up!
I NEVER claimed Jesus to be a human person "BESIDE" the Divinity!
You dutty stink camelade breath lying Taqiyya Bid'ah son of temporary giddy up!
You asked if Jesus was both a human existence and a person!
Abdool! I've proven that a human existence is a human person!
And you tried to claim this to be Nestorianism, which you're proving now in your dutty stink slander!
Jesus was fully Man and Divine!
ABDOOL! That means that Jesus was fully Human existence, inclusively by default a person, AND fully Divine!
Abdool! Answer! Using your fallacious logic, Are you a human being or a person!?!
Here abdool, let me give you the definition!......
Definition of a human being:
A human.
👉A person👈; a large sapient, bipedalprimate, with notably less hair than others of that order, of the species Homo sapiens.
Another, extinct member of the genus Homo
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
Human
Merriam Webster
a member of any of the races of Homo sapiens; 👉person👈;
👉man👈, woman, or child
1. any individual of the genus Homo, esp. a member of the species Homo sapiens.
2. 👉a person👈, esp. as distinguished from other animals or as 👉representing the human species👈
The Free Dictionary
👉A person👈
Cambridge Dictionary
A human being is a human child or adult.
Collins Dictionary
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@tariqthebiblicalscholar5865
The Heresy of Nestorianism
The heresy is not accepting the Orthodox belief that 👉the human and divine natures of Christ were united from the instant of the Word's conception in the womb of Mary.👈
Come on abdool, explain how Jesus being a human person/being (existence) in any way relates to Nestorianism when a human as a being/existence, IS a person!?!
Your fallacy dictates now that for Nestorianism to stand, the human being and the human person have to be two independents, 2 persons, so we can all only be either a human being or a human person, which are you abdool, and prove what the other is as different to the other!
And one of them have to be divine, so maybe that'll help you, whichever one is divine is the one you claim we can't be, because that'd be claiming everyone as divine, as gods!
You'd better start explaining boy!
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@tariqthebiblicalscholar5865
Abdool! Seen as you like talking about Nestorians so much, let's go to Qurtubi regarding 4:157!......
4:157 - Sahih International
👉And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them.👈
This isn't Al-Lah speaking it's Jews, Christians, and Nestorians! Nestorians weren't around at the time of Jesus! 😂 🤣
Below is where your Al-Lah comes into play!
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👉And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.👈
4:158 - Sahih International
👉 Rather, Allah raised him to Himself👈.
And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.
Al-Lah only affirms that Isa wasn't killed for certain regardless of what people are claiming, and that Al-Lah raised Isa to Al-Lah, that's it abdool nothing else, no explanation, that comes in 3:55! 😂 🤣
Qurtubi
4:157
The Almighty’s saying: {And their saying, “Indeed, we killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary”} broke the word “In” because it is initiated after the saying and opened it in language.
The etymology of the word Messiah was presented in Al Imran.
{Messenger of God} substitute, and if you like, I mean the meaning.
{And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him} He replied to what they said.
{But it was likened to them} that is, he cast his likeness on others, as was presented in “Aal Imran”.
And it was said: They did not know his person, and they killed the one who killed him while they doubted him, as the Almighty said:
{And those who differed about it are in doubt about it}.
And the news was said: It is about all of them.
And it was said that only the common people differed about it, and the meaning of their difference is that some of them say that he is a god, and some of them, the son of God......
....And it was said: Their difference is that 👉the Nestorians👈 of the Christians said: Jesus was crucified in terms of his humanity, not in terms of his divinity.
The Melkanites said: The crucifixion and murder fell on Christ by the perfection of his humanity and divinity.
And it was said: Their difference is that they said: If this is our friend, then where is Jesus?!
And if this is Jesus, where is our friend?
It was said: Their difference is that 👉the Jews said: We killed him, because Judas is the head of the Jews and he is the one who sought to kill him.👈
👉A group of Christians said: We killed him.👈
👉A group of them said: Rather, God raised him to heaven while we were looking at him👈.
{What they have of knowledge} from the excess and the speech was completed.
👉Then the Almighty said👈:
“Except for following a conjecture.” An exception that is not from the first in an accusative position, and it may be in a place of nominative over the substitution, meaning that they have no knowledge of it except following the conjecture.
Oh, and by the way, no Jew or Christian would ever claim to have killed the Messiah, that's a paradoxical oxymoron! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
Only Al-Lah knows the hour, but so does Isa, Isa must be Al-Lah! 😂 🤣
43:61 - Sahih International
And indeed, Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
31:34 - Sahih International
Indeed, Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
7:187 - Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
41:47 - Sahih International
To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
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@fahiymmuhammad785
Wow! So the word "Al-Lah" has 0 sacradeness, is just a mere created mortal word, so Al-Lah when calling Al-Lah Al-Lah, is associating Al-Lah with a created thing of 0 relevance and value, that's still shirk, and this also means that none of you know what Al-Lah's name is, not even Al-Lah, but Al-Lah claims this to be Al-Lah's name!🙈......
So now show us where Al-Lah reveals Al-Lah's actual name, and why does Al-Lah lie in the Quran!?!
1:1
Sahih International
In the name of Al-Lah, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.
Yusuf Ali
In the name of Al-Lah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Pickthall
In the name of Al-Lah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
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@Yousef-r4t-h1h
Abdool, don't think you're going to be able to use fallacious Taqiyya sophistry with me, you're already exposed and busted as a liar!.....
Now read and see, your cult is busted yet again!......
Jeremiah 3:1-2
“If a man divorces his wife
and she leaves him to marry another,
can he ever return to her?
Would not such a land be completely defiled?
But you have played the harlot with many lovers—and you would return to Me?”
declares יְהֹוָֽה׃ (Yahweh).
“Lift up your eyes to the barren heights and see. Is there any place where you have not been violated? You sat beside the highways waiting for your lovers, 👉like a כַּעֲרָבִ֖י👈 in the desert. 👉You have defiled the land with your prostitution and wickedness.👈
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
ka·‘ă·rā·ḇî - כַּעֲרָבִ֖י
6163. Arabiy
Arabian
Or marbiy {ar-bee'}; patrial from Arab; an Arabian or inhabitant of Arab (i.e. Arabia) -- Arabian.
Hadiths:
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was asked about a woman whom a man married and then divorced her, and then she married (another) person, and she was divorced before sexual intercourse with her, whether it was lawful for her first husband (to marry her in this state). He (the Holy Prophet) said:
No, until he has tasted her sweetness.
Sahih Muslim 1433 d
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3357 (deprecated)
A'Asha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:
A person divorced his wife by three pronouncements; then another person married her and he also divorced her without having sexual intercourse with her. Then the first husband of her intended to remarry her. It was about such a case that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was asked, whereupon he said: No, until the second one has tasted her sweetness as the first one had tasted.
Sahih Muslim 1433 f
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 134
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3359
(deprecated)
It was narrated from 'Aishah that a man divorced his wife three times and she married another husband who divorced her, before having intercourse with her. The Messenger of Allah was asked:
"Is she permissible for the first (husband to remarry her)?" He said: "No, not until he tastes her sweetness as the first tasted her sweetness."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3412
In-book: Book 27, Hadith 24
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 27, Hadith 3441
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was asked about a man who divorced his wife three times, and she married another who entered upon her, but divorced her before having intercourse with her, whether she was lawful for the former husband. She said: The Prophet (ﷺ) replied: She is not lawful for the first (husband) until she tastes the honey of the other husband and he tastes her honey.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 2309
In-book: Book 13, Hadith 135
English translation: Book 12, Hadith 2302
It was narrated from Ibn 'Umar,:
from the Prophet, concerning a man who had a wife then divorced her, then another man married her but divorced her before consummating the marriage. Could she go back to the first man? He said: "No, not until he tastes her sweetness."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan Ibn Majah
English: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1933
Arabic: Book 9, Hadith 2008
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah was asked about a man who divorced his wife, and she married another man who had a closed meeting with her then divorced her, before having intercourse with her. Is it permissible for her to remarry the first husband? The Messenger of Allah said: 'No, not until the second one tastes her sweetness and she tastes his sweetness.'"
Da'if (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3407
In-book: Book 27, Hadith 19
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 27, Hadith 3436
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@Yousef-r4t-h1h
Wrong again abdool! You falsely accuse Lot, as a widower, as committing adultery, abfool, that means Mad-ham-mu is guilty for marrying Aisha after Khadija, and then all the other little girls he married, and learn what words mean by definition, Lot didn't commit adultery! 😂 🤣
Lot didn't commit anything, he was a victim, he didn't know what was happening, he was plied with alcohol, he was so drunk, to the point he was out of it, and this was all the planning of his daughters!
Is Lot now his own daughters in order for your fallacy to stand, was his wife suddenly resurrected and returned to him!?!
Busted abdool!
Now, as for your dutty Mad-ham-mu, look at how he manipulated the divorce between Zaid his "son" and his "daughter in law" just so he could get a piece of that action!
And still, you've failed to deal with the facts that bust your dutty stink cult!
You're no man, you're a child, look at you, so ashamed, so embarrassed, and you don't even have the spine or cojones to stand by and defend your Mad-ham-mu or your cult!
You all have the traits and behaviours of hyenas on heat!
Now deal with your busted cult, stop trying to run abdool, because each time your try and deviate, avoid the busts, you only end up exposing your cult more, and the busts start building up against you!
In short abdool, don't answer or refute, the points stand, they bust your cult, and as I'm exposing and busting your fallacies, that means our scripture and Christianity is defended, your cult is exposed and busted!
So carry on, you're only making it worse for you and your cult, you're not smart, and you're not achieving anything via this hyena tactic and strategy!
You're a failure just like your Mad-ham-mu! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@SamA-xu9gy
Oh really, so you think the Trinity is Yahweh the Father, then Jesus as a human became Yahweh's Son, but there's no Holy Spirit mentioned so only Yahweh the Father and Son!?!
So, now explain how a Triune God can only be 2 Hypostasis!?!
How can Jesus become God as a Human, when He "became" incarnate, key word "BECAME", as in existed pre incarnation in order to "BECOME" incarnate in the first place!
And if God is Triune, and Almighty, God can become incarnate, and still have full control and power over His creation!
Answer Revelation 1:1, is Jesus God or the Angel of God!?!
Also, show me the correct description of the Trinity in your Quran!
If Al-Lah is one, then one what, what exactly is Al-Lah in order to be identified and defined as one, what's Al-Lah's equivalent to the body seen as Al-Lah can't be compared to creation!?!
Can Al-Lah enter creation!?!
And how can Al-Lah be one alone when Al-Lah is praying to another (33:56), acknowledges and can't stop tributes to other gods (6:136), is inheriting from another and among multiple participating pants in the act of inheritance (28:58), either Al-Lah is in contradiction or in 29:46 Al-Lah again acknowledges our Yahweh seperate to Al-Lah, which is affirmed in 9:29, and finally, how ever can Al-Lah be alone without a child or wife when Al-Lah admits Al-Lah has wives Al-Lah can choose from in order to have a son, like a human male, so Al-Lah has compared Al-Lah to human creation, with human male reproductive organs (21:17), and has daughters in Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, & Al-Manat (53:19-20), affirmed in 22:52 and Tafsirs, which contradicts 39:37!
So 4:82 has been triggered and that's your cult busted regardless! 😂 🤣
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@1541965
You're the one running, deal with Exodus 3:15 in the Arabic exposing your Al-Lah as a fraud, an imposter, to prove me wrong you need now to bring the Quran verse where ٱللَّهِ refers to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه otherwise you've got shirk in the Quran, and the Arabic translation of the Bible, yes the very translation your entire fallacy depends on, exposes and busts your Al-Lah, your cult, your Quran, pagan Sabian as fraudsters, charlatans, false, non existent, and your fallacy is exposed and busted too!
So how's about you bring the Quran verse, or don't you have one! 😂 🤣
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@fahiymmuhammad785
Uh oh, Fahiym is stuck on the usual abdool broken record, and like a typical Taqiyya tongued abdool, had to change the goalposts thereby proving he's being fallacious and already lost the debate!.....
First of all you've just exposed your initial fallacy claimjng that the Bible has nothing to do with Christianity, then claim the word Jew is a Christian word, and this is proven based on the second point that exposes your current fallacy, that the word Jew/s is in Ezra and Esther from the OT aka pre Christ incarnate aka can't be a Christian invention! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
And you've affirmed by your own standard that because there's no mention of your Al-Lah or pagan Sabian, or Quran, that they can't be and aren't anything to do with our scripture, Jesus Christ, Christians, Jews, or any of the prophets and Apostles!
The fact your Quran doesn't even mention Jesus Christ is all it takes to bust your cult, and without Jesus Christ, you have nothing to offer to, or appeal to, Christians and our Lord Jesus Christ, or our scripture!
Who cares about Isa the Levite son of Maryam, nephew of Moses, from the time of Moses, who is he, can't be Jesus Christ so don't even try it!?!
And who cares about your pagan Sabian now, he's nothing to do with us, because he's nothing to do with Jesus Christ, he's insignificant, irrelevant, nothing but a rabid crazed madman who's onchorenet crazy rasm waffle has been corrupted with diacritical marks and all his cult followers today don't have a clue what the exact explicit statements were, instead you're all in a cult of Taqiyya Bid'ah doctrines and you're all messed up bith spiritually and mentally, but hey, follow and mimic an ignorant madman then expect to end up just as ignorant mad as the ignorant madman you follow and mimic! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@generaljg4373
As you've been told, we don't, you though, you bow to a black cube, kiss and touch stones to absolve sin because Al-Lah can't just say be and depends on the cube and stones, you also worship eclipses, prstcie necromancy (Tashahud and Durood),
And to try and justify your pagan idolatry you try to accuse everyone else of that which you practice and do, your cult is pure idolotrous, pagan, polytheistic, Taqiyya Bid'ah hypocrisy! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Aaron H
Are you saying that Al-Lah can't enter creation, become incarnate, be a baby, born, eat, sleep, and go toilet!?!
Go on, say Al-Lah CAN'T do these things, I tell you what, how about "it doesn't befit Al-Lah", Aww, did I beat you to your own scripted response!?!...
Well guess what, either way, if you say Al-Lah CAN'T, Al-Lah ISN'T Almighty!
Say it doesn't "BEFIT" Al-Lah, you're admitting that it doesn't "BEFIT" Al-Lah to be Almighty!
Checkmate! Catch 22 abdool!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@MohammadQasim
Your feeble attempts at countering fail on the simple basis that WE haven't made a claim to have made a report for being assaulted with ketchup, Ibn Fibbin Ketchup Footnote claims HE was, and DID!
This would be, as is proven, accessible by the public, yet no one, NO ONE claimed to be involved in this "report/claim" have any record or knowledge of it, only ibn fibbin ketchup Footnote!....
So, WE don't have to show, or provide you or him with any additional information to disprove ibn fibbin ketchup Footnote's claimed "claim/report", HE'S made the claim, the burden of proof is on HIM, even your post it note scrapbook claims that, or is your post it note scrapbook, your pagan Lah, and your loopy pagan Sabian in error, again!?! 😂 🤣
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@MO_APA_LOO_____
Your strawman questions prove you're delusional like your pagan Sabian! 😂 🤣
1 - John was at the crucifixion, as was Mary!
2 - no one chased Jesus down, Judas snitched on Jesus' location in order that He could be arrested, and you've just exposed 4:157 as an error by admitting it wasn't the Jews that ultimately Crucified Jesus!
3 - Jesus Commanded none shall interfere with His arrest and being Crucified, He even rebuked Peter for trying to defend Him, and not intervening doesn't necessitate participation in/with the crowd persecuting Him, and you've acknowledged the Crucifixion took place, and it was Jesus Crucified!
4 - it was the death and resurrection that atoned for our sins, and that was what was required to atone for all sins, not the selected method in order that the sins were atoned, so there's no reason at that time to rejoice witnessing such a barbaric act, and as occurred, and as occurs today in many cultures, we'd mourn the death, then rejoice and celebrate the Person's life, in the case of Jesus, as occurred, while mourning, we'd then rejoice in His Resurrection!
My response to 3 proves that Jesus whilst having a natural fear of the way He was going to die due to having both Human and Divine Natures, only His Human Nature naturally feared death through crucifixion, yet He was prepared to go through with it no matter what!
Was Muhammad/Aisha/the Sahaba jumping for joy when your Al-Lah decided because he was a false prophet that he'd poison him like a rat!?! 😂 🤣
And Jesus praying to His Father, even if you want to play games and say "The" Father, you've still busted your Al-Lah because Al-Lah isn't Father to anyone! 😂 🤣
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@generaljg4373
Your strawman just exposed and pummelled your cult!....
First of all I said Jesus commanded to make disciples of all nations, not to make all nations Christian, so that's your first fail! 😂
Secondly, Ishmaelites doesn't apply to Arabs alone, and Muhammad only came for the Arabs, so either the Quran is in error or you are, that's your second fail!
Thirdly, Ishmaelites is a broad term for more than Arabs, but you've just affirmed that the only ones you identify as Ishmaelites (muslim) are the Arabs, the Arabs of Arabia descend/ed from Midian not Ishmael, Ishmaelites who descend from Ishmael are the Jordanians, and that busts your cult, because now, your cult is exposed claiming your pagan Sabian descended from Ishmael, when the facts prove that for that to be the case, he'd have to descend from an Ishmaelite Jordanian NOT an Arabian Midianite Ishmaelite, and that would mean he's not the messenger supposedly sent to the Midianite Arabs, or it means he's not a descendant from Ishmael but at best, can only claim to descend from Midian, and both facts contradict your Taqiyya Bid'ah cult sources, and by all means, go read the Bible verses to see what happened to the Midianites, and the Bible affirms what I've stated in regards to who the Midianites were/are (Arabs from Arabia), that's your third fail!
That's game, set, and match!
You're finished abdool! 😂 🤣
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The irony, Quran 1:1, the very first verse in the jumbled Quranic order undoes and obliterates the quran, Al-Lah, the pagan Sabian fruit loop, and cultlam in its entirety!
It's a Bid'ah corruption that contains a corruption within the corruption, it was added to the quran, so it's not from Al-Lah or the pagan Sabian, the word bismillah has been changed/edited, and it's not even part of the pagan Sabian's sunnah because he and Umar etc didn't recite it!
And finally, in Arabic it uses the specific word "name" (singular (not 99/plural)),
So, either Al-Lah is the name and that busts Al-Lah, or, we go with the Taqiyya "Al-Lah means 'god/the god" and the question then is, what's the name of this 'god/the god' that this 'god/the god' is referring to, every Muslim should know it, it's relevant and of vital importance to know the name of this 'god/the god' if a Muslim!?!"
Now, is there a single Muslim that wants to challenge me, is there a single Muslim that can tell me whether Al-Lah IS the name, or what the name is that the 'god' in quran 1:1 is referring to!?!
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4:137 exposes the "all/most forgving and merciful", Al-Lah rejects Muslims indefinately if they disbelieve more than once, and all Muslims, especially the Dawah lot, end up triggering 4:137 and therefore they're all apostates no matter how many times they take the shahada, follow the Sunnah to the letter, etc etc, Al-Lah still rejects them!.....
And this verse & point can put any and all of those doing Dawah in the corner at Speakers Corner, YouTube, and around the world, it exposes and destroys their script, and compels them to have to work with what the Quran actually says, which is what we as Christians are exposing!
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@toby7936
The point you're missing is that if Al-Lah rejects those who believe, disbelieve, believe, then disbelieve, then there's no forgiveness or mercy, so Al-Lah can't be all forgiving and merciful, it's a paradox aka a contradiction!.....
And all muslims actually reject the Quran because you have been duped into following Taqiyya Bid'ah Hadith and Tafsir doctrines, we as Christians expose your cult based on what your cult and Quran claims, you all reject the Quran when it exposes and embarrasses you!...would you like me to prove it, I'll quote a ref/verse and watch how quick you reject it for what it states!?!....
Furthermore, to strengthen my point, Al-Lah doesn't forgive shirk!....
And I never mentioned anything about the sahaba and blasphemy, but seen as you brought it up.....
If you claim anything against Muhammad, or Fatima (Lady of Heaven) as blasphemous/blasphemy, that's shirk!
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@toby7936
Wrong! And when you say shabah I assume you mean the shahada not the sahaba, well the shahada is shirk too!....So you commit shirk which is unforgiveable in order to be forgiven and receive mercy, that's a paradoxical oxymoron! 😂 🤣
And as for your Tafsirs, seen as you credit them and your scholars so much, watch and read this!....
Al-Jawab As-Sahih
Sheikh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah
Affirms we have the Truth, preserved, it's our interpretation of the text, not the text itself that's questioned!
3:56
Tafseer of the Great Qur’an / Ibn Katheer (d. 774 AH) is classified and verified
👉Al-Lah recounted their articles in the Qur’an, and he responded to each group, so they continued to do so close to
👉three hundred years👈,
then a king of the Greek kings called Constantine emerged for them, he entered the religion of Christianity, a trick was said to corrupt him, because he was a philosopher, and it was said that he was ignorant. He changed the religion of Christ for them and perverted it, added to it and decreased it, and laid down laws for him, and the loyal secretariat which is a low (vile) betrayal, and pork was permissible in his time, and they prayed for him to the east, and they drew for him churches, temples and hermatiges, and increased their fasting ten days for a sin they claim he committed. And the religion of Christ became the religion of Constantine, except that he built for them more than twelve thousand temples, churches, hermitages, and courtyards, and he built the city attributed to him, and the royal sect of them followed him,
تفسير تفسير القرآن العظيم/ ابن كثير (ت 774 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
وقد حكى الله مقالاتهم في القرآن، ورد على كل فريق، فاستمروا على ذلك قريباً من ثلثمائة سنة، ثم نبغ لهم ملك من ملوك اليونان يقال له قسطنطين، فدخل في دين النصرانية، قيل حيلة ليفسده، فإنه كان فيلسوفاً، وقيل جهلاً منه، إلا أنه بدل لهم دين المسيح وحرفه، وزاد فيه ونقص منه، ووضعت له القوانين، والأمانة الكبرى التي هي الخيانة الحقيرة، وأحل في زمانه لحم الخنزير، وصلوا له إلى المشرق، وصوروا له الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع، وزادوا في صيامهم عشرة أيام من أجل ذنب ارتكبه فيما يزعمون، وصار دين المسيح دين قسطنطين إلا أنه بنى لهم من الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع والديارات ما يزيد على اثني عشر ألف معبد، وبنى المدينة المنسوبة إليه، واتبعه الطائفة الملكية منهم،
The first complete copies of single New Testament books appear around 200CE.
If we're to go by Ibn Kathir's claim, then the manuscripts that are dated during/around the time of Constantine I are 1 & 2 Timothy, 1 & 2 Peter, 2 & 3 John, and Jude.
Even if we were to ignore these parts of the NT, it wouldn't change the doctrine, belief, faith, that Jesus is the Son of God, came in the flesh, was Crucified for our sins, resurrected on the 3rd day, and declared He is Yahweh, the Son of Yahweh (God)!....As supported by early church fathers, whose writings too, pre date Constantine I!
Constantine I converted to Christianity on his deathbed in 337CE!
The legalisation of Christianity, sanctioning of building churches, the start of the Ecumenical Councils, all happened before his conversion!
Waraqa was translating an injil...
Reference: Sahih Muslim 160 a
In-book reference: Book 1, Hadith 310
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 1, Hadith 301 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Muhammad swore an oath on the Torah in the 7th century....
Reference: Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
In-book reference: Book 40, Hadith 99
English translation: Book 39, Hadith 4434
And Quran claims we have the truth in 2:89, 5:46-47 and 10:29, and that the Injil is the entire Bible, including Paul!........
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@toby7936
Number and Names of the Disciples of ‘Eesa
Fatwa No: 395068
Fatwa Date:2-4-2019 - Rajab 27, 1440
Question
Salamu Aleikum. How many disciples did Isa have? What are their names?
Answer
According to one view, the number of the disciples of ‘Eesa may Allaah exalt his mention is twelve men, and this was reported by Ibn ‘Abbaas may Allaah be pleased with him.
Their names were mentioned in some books of Tafseer (interpretation of the Quran) and books of history.
Ibn Al-Jawzi may Allaah have mercy upon him said in Zaad Al-Muyassar: “Ibn ‘Abbaas said: the number of the disciples (of ‘Eesa) is twelve men.” [End of quote]
Taahir ibn ‘Aashoor may Allaah have mercy upon him said in At-Tahreer wat-Tanweer:
“The disciples (of ‘Eesa) are twelve men, and they are: Simon Peter and his brother Andrew, John the son of Zebedee, and his brother Jacob - all of whom are fishermen -Matthew, Thomas, Philip, Baratho of Amos, Jacob the son of Hilfi, Labaus, Simon the Zealot (or Simon the Cananite), and Judah the Iscariot.” [End of quote]
Knowing their number and their names is not a knowledge that entails any action or belief, so we advise you not to be preoccupied with matters that would not benefit you and entail action.
Allah knows best.
Tafsir al-Jalalayn actually states....
And strike for them as a similitude mathalan is the first direct object the inhabitants ashāba is the second direct object of 👉the town of Antioch Antākya when the messengers namely Jesus’s disciples came to it👈 idh jā’ahā’l-mursalūna is an inclusive substitution for ashāba’l-qaryati ‘the inhabitants of the town’.
Who are the messengers by name and who went to Antioch!?! 😂 🤣
And they're identified as messengers of Isa!....
But in Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs, they're messengers of Al-Lah, so we've got shirk affirmed!...
(Coin for them a similitude) explain to the people of Mecca: (The people of the city) of Antioch, how We destroyed them (👉when those sent (from Allah👈) came unto them) i.e. when the emissary of Jesus, Simon the Pure, came to them and they disbelieved in and denied him;
Tafsir Al-Quran Al-Adhim, by Ibn Abi Hatim (D. 327H)
18050 – Shuayb Al-Jaba’ie said: The names of the two messengers where it is said: (We sent to them two) are
👉Simon👈 and John👈.
And the name of the third is 👉Paul👈.
(Ad-Dar 50/7)
From Shuayb Al-Jaba’ie, he said, “The name of the messengers, who said, ‘When we have sent them two,’ Are
👉Simon👈 and 👉John👈,
and the name of the third is👉Paul.”👈
Darju Al-Darar Fi-Tafsir Al-Aa’yi Wal-Suwar, Al-Jurjani (D. 471H)
By Abu Bakar Abd Al-Qahir Al-Jurjani Ad-Dar (D. 471H)
(The people of the city) Is the people of Antioch. This is narrated by Qatadah and Ikrimah 👉from 👉Tabari👈
👉 in his Tafsir (19/413).👈
And Abdul Razzaq in his Tafsir (2/140). (When we sent to them two) On the reign of E’esa (upon him peace) They are
👉Thomas👈 and👉 Paul👈.
Mentioned in Zad al-Masir (10/7) from Muqatil.
Mu’alam Al-Tanzil Fi-Tafsir Al-Quran, Tafsir Al-Baghawi (D. 510H)
By Imam Husayn Bin Mas’ud Al-Baghawi Al-Shafi’i (D. 510H)
[Quran 36:14] When We sent to them two but they denied them, so We strengthened them with a third, and they said, “Indeed, we are messengers to you.”
(When We sent to them two) Wahab said: Their names are 👉John👈 and👉 Paul,👈
(but they denied them, so we strengthened them) means:
We strengthened, (with a third) with a third messenger, and he was 👉Simon👈. And Abu Bakr read from Aa’sim: ‘so we strengthened them‘ by alleviating, which is in the first sense, such as your saying: We have emphasized and stressed by reducing and strengthening. And it is said: We have overcome their words: from the best of good.
And Ka’ab said: “The two prophets are
👉Sadiq and Saduq👈, and the third is
👉Shalum👈, but Allah added the sending to him, because E’esa (upon him peace) sent them by his command of Allah (and they said) all of them to the people of Antioch,” (Indeed, we are messengers to you).
Tafsir al-Baghawi is generally classified as one of the books of narration-based Tafsir, as it collects and presents many statements from the Sahabah and Tabi’un. The book primarily relies on 👉11 reliable chains of narrations,👈 which al-Baghawi mentions in the introduction to his work.
Tafsir Mu’jama Al-Bayan Fi-Tafsir Quran, by Al-Tabarusi (D. 548H)
It is said: the meaning for what is mentioned (People of the city) this city is Antioch in the statement of the commentators. (When messengers came to it) that is when
👉Allah sent Messengers to them👈 (When we sent to them two) any messengers from our messengers (They denied them both) that is they lied to the two messengers, Ibn Abbass said: They beat and imprisoned them. (So we strengthened them with a third) In other words, we have divided them and increased their appearance with a third messenger taken from the pride, namely strength, and prevention, from which they say that anyone who has been defeated is a usurper. Shu’ayba said: The names of the two messengers were
👉Simon👈 and 👉John👈 and the name of the third was 👉Paul👈.
Ibn Abbass and Ka’ab said: Sadiq, and Saduq and the third was Shalum. And it was said: They were the Messengers of E’esa and they were disciples. And Wahab and Ka’ab said: But rather the Almighty added to them by himself because E’esa sent them by his command (Indeed we are messengers to you) meaning that they said to them, O people of the city, Allah has sent us to you.
Tafsir Zad Al-Masir Fi-Ilm Al-Tafsir, by Ibn Jawzi (D. 597H)
The Almighty said: (And present to them an example) means: Describe for the people of Mecca, for example: likeness. Al-Zajaj said: Meaning: A representative of (the people of the city) represented a similar example to him, as opposed to a proverb, as if he said: mention the village owners to them. Ikrimah and Qatada said: This city is Antioch.
(When we sent to them two) And in the names there are three statements.
First: Ibn Abbas and Ka’ab said:
👉Sadiq and Saduq👈.
Second: Wahab Bin Munabah said:
👉John and Paul👈.
Third: Muqatil said:
👉Thomas and 👉Paul.👈
The (Mufasirun) commentators differed as to who sent the two messengers. The first of them: That Allah almighty sent them. It is apparent from the Quran, and it is narrated by Ibn Abbass, Ka’ab and Wahab. The second of them: That 👉E’esa sent them👈.
👉This may be added to Allah almighty because they are the messengers of his messenger👈. Qatadah and Ibn Jurayj said this.
This is shirk!
Tadkara Al-Arib Fi-Tafsir Al-Gharib, Al-Jawzi (D. 597H)
By Jamal Al-Din Mohammad Al-Jawzi (D. 597H)
13- And (The City) is Antioch.
14- (two) their names are
👉John👈 and 👉Paul👈, (we strengthened) with strength (with a third) and his name is
👉Simon👈, Ka’ab said
👉Allah sent them👈, Qatada said they were
👉messengers of E’esa.👈
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Tafsir al-Jami’ Lil-Ahkam al-Quran, by Imam 👉Al-Qurtubi👈 (D. 671H)
[Quran 61:14] O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah, as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, “Who are my supporters for Allah?” The disciples said, “We are supporters of Allah.” And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant.
It was said: This verse came down in regard to the 👉apostles of E’esa👈 (peace be upon him). Ibn Ishaq said: 👉E’esa sent them👈 from the apostles and followers of
👉Peter and👉 Paul👈 to Rome,
👉Andrew👈 walked to the land where its people ate people.
And 👉Thomas👈 to the land of Babylon from the land of the East.
👉Philip👈 to Cartagena, which is Africa. And Jonas to Daqus the village of the people of the cave.
👉Jacob👈 is to Jerusalem, the house of the holy, and Ibn Talma to the Arabia, which is the land of the Hijaz.
And 👉Simon👈 to the land of the Berbers. And Judea and 👉Bardas👈 to Alexandria and its surroundings.
Allah supported them with Argument. They became visible, i.e. high. From your saying: Any one who is on the wall has appeared on the wall. Allah almighty knows what is right.
Libab Al-Ta’wil Fi Ma’ani Al-Tanzil, (741H)
By Abu Hasan Al-Ma’ruf Balhazan. D. 741
(When we sent to them two, but they rejected them) Wahab said: their names are
👉John👈 and 👉Paul👈.
Ka’ab said Sadiq, Saduq, (So we strengthened them with a third) i.e. we were strengthened by a third messenger, and he was
👉Simon👈 and it is said Shalum. Rather, Allah Almighty added the message to him because E’esa (upon him blessing and peace), sent them, with the permission of Allah Almighty, so they said, the apostles are all to the people of Antioch.
Tafsir Al-Quran Al-Adhim, by Al-Hafidh
👉Ibn Kathir👈 (D. 774 H)
And his statement: (When We sent to them two Messengers, they denied them both) means, they hastened to disbelieve in them. (so we reinforced them with a third) means, “We supported and strengthened them with a third Messenger.” ‘Ibn Jurayj narrated from Wahab bin Sulayman, from Shuayb Al-Jaba’ie, “the names of the first two messengers were
👉Simon👈 and 👉John👈, and the name of the third was👉 Paul, 👈and the city was Antioch.”
[Quran 36:14] When we sent to them two but they denied them, so we strengthened them with a third, and they said, “Indeed, we are messengers to you.”
(When We sent to them two Messengers, they denied them both) means, they hastened to disbelieve in them. (so we reinforced them with a third) means, “We supported and strengthened them with a third Messenger.” ‘Ibn Jurayj narrated from Wahab bin Sulayman, from Shu`ayb Al-Jaba’i, “the names of the first two messengers were
👉Sham`un👈 and 👉Yuhanna👈, and the name of the third was 👉Bulus,👈 and the city was Antioch (Antakiyah). (and they said) means, to the people of that city, (Verily, we have been sent to you as Messengers.) meaning, `from your Lord Who created you and Who commands you to worship Him Alone with no partners or associates.” This was the view of Abu Al-`Aliyah. Qatadah bin Di’amah claimed that 👉they were messengers of the Messiah, peace be upon him, sent to the people of Antioch.👈
Qasas al-Anbiya’ by 👉Ibn Kathir👈 (D. 774H), Vol. 1, P. 575
Section mentioning the status of E’esa (upon him peace) and his virtues.
And one who believed in The Messiah and believed him from the people of Damascus was a man who was called 👉Dina👈 and was hiding in a cave inside the eastern door close to the solid church for fear of
👉 the Jew Paul👈, and he was unjust and oppressive, with hatred for the Messiah, and when he came to him, he shaved the head of his nephew when he believed in The Messiah and roared him in the country and then stoned him until he died, Allah’s mercy be upon him.
👉When👉 Paul 👈heard that The Messiah had gone to Damascus, he prepared a mule and went out to kill him, and he received it at Kokuba; when he faced the companions of The Messiah, an Angel came to him, and he hit his face at the end of his wing, so when he saw that he fell. He believed the Messiah, and came to him and apologized for what he did and believed in him and he accepted it. 👈And he asked him to wipe his eyes so that God would return his sight to him. He said, “Go to our city in Damascus, at the end of the rectangular market of the East. He called you and came to him and returned to him his eyesight.”
And 👉Paul had solid faith in the Messiah👈 (upon him peace) that he is a slave of Allah and His Messenger.
Al-Lah butchers the event when Paul had his vision! If you dispute or reject this, then you reject Al-Lah's words!
Al-Bidayah Wal-Nihayah, by 👉Ibn Kathir👈 (D. 774), Vol. 2 P.119
When👉 Paul 👈heard that The Messiah, upon him peace, had gone to Damascus, he prepared his mules and went out to kill him, and he received it at Kokuba. And when he confronted the companions of The Messiah, 👉an Angel came to him👈and hit his face with the tip of his wing. 👉He blinded him👈.
So when he saw that himself, 👉he believed in The Messiah👈. So he came to him and apologized for what he had done and 👉believed in him👈,
👉so he accepted him👈 and
👉asked him👈 to wipe his eyes
👉so that God👈 would return his sight to him. He said, “Go to our guest in Damascus at the end of the rectangular market of the east; he calls for you.” He came to him and returned to him his eyesight,
and 👉Paul👈 had strong faith in the Messiah, upon him peace, that he is a slave of Allah and His Messenger.
👉And a church was built in his name👈,
the 👉Church of Paulus👈, famous in Damascus, from the time it was opened by the companions, may Allah bless them, until it was destroyed.👈
Al-Lah permitted Church's to be built in the name of Al-Lah! The hypocrisy and blatant contradiction!
And Isa is the one who is been invoked as Al-Lah!
Al-Bab Fi-Ulum Al-Kitab, by Abu Hafs Al-Hanbali Al-Ni’mani (D. 775H)
(We sent to them two) Wahab said: Their names are John and
👉Paul.👈 (But they denied them so we strengthened them) with a (third) messenger and he is Simon, and Wahab said: The two messengers are Sadiq and Saduq and the third 👉Shalum👈. And 👉Allah added the message to him, because E’esa (upon him blessing peace) sent them with his (Almighty’s) command.👈
And it is said: this verse was revealed regarding the 👉Messengers of E’esa👈 (upon him peace and blessings).
👉Ibn Ishaq said: E’esa sent them👈 from the apostles and followers, 👉Peter👈 and
👉Paul👈 to Rome.
👉And Andrew and Matthew👈 to the land whose people eat people. Thomas to the land of Babylon from the land of the east.
👉Philip👈 to Cartagina which is Africa. And 👉Jonas👈 to Daqsus village of the people of the cave. And 👉Jacob👈 to Jerusalem which is the holy house.
And 👉Ibn Tilma👈 to Arabia which is the land of Hijaz.
And 👉Simon👈 to the land of Barbar. And Judah… to and around Alexandria. 👉Allah supported them with proofs and they became (Dominant) i.e. high, from his saying: I appeared on the wall, that is, I raised it.👈
You can't risk disputing or rejecting any of these names or their publications!
And notice they're messengers of BOTH Isa & Al-Lah (shirk)!
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And dont even try appealing to the word/name Al-Lah, Al-Lah is a name not a/the title "god", same as Isa isn't Jesus Christ!.....
1 - Exodus 3:15 - Arabic translation!.....
وقال الله ايضا لموسى هكذا تقول لبني اسرائيل
👈يهوه👉 اله آبائكم اله ابراهيم واله اسحق واله يعقوب ارسلني اليكم. هذا اسمي الى الابد وهذا ذكري الى دور فدور.
Show me where ٱللَّهِ refers to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه (Jehovah)!
9:29 Al-Lah affirms that Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, if so, then Al-Lah wouldn't need to include Al-Lah in the verse, only Muhammad would be the discrepancy!
2 - Where in the Quran does it mention يسوع المسيح (Yasue Al-Masih (Yeshua (Jesus) the Messiah))!?!
3 - Where in the Bible is there mention of Esau/Isa the Levite Son of Maryam, nephew of Moses (19:28 & 66:12)!?!....
4 - Where in the Bible does it state Jesus Christ to be known by the name Esau/Isa and to be from the tribe of Levi!?!
5 - How can Isa/Esau be Jesus Christ when Isa/Esau is hanging around with an injil during the time of Moses (7155-157)!?!
Ahmed Deedat - The Choice Vol 1 & 2 - Page 52
Deedat claims Isa is a translation of Esau NOT Yeshua!
Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril
Life Of Isa
Page 1
Prophet Isa's Mentioned is noted in 10 different situations in the Quran. There is even an entire chapter (surah) named after Isa's mother, Maryam alyaha salam, as well as his grandparents Al-Imran alayahum asalam, who were chosen over all mankind. This Surat, Surat Al-Imran also reveals the story of Maryam alyaha salam, it outlines a description of her lineage and upbringing. It also relates the pure conception and birth of Isa alayhe salam.
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Are you starting to get the picture, starting to realise, I'm not some ignorant that you can spew this Da'if Taqiyya Bid'ah Deedat/Naik script at and think it'll help you, I've been exposing your cult for years now, and I've done my research, or as Yasir Qadhi likes to call it "a deep dive", so trust me when I say, you need to up your game and do a whole lot better than this, I'm undefeated and irrefutable, and that's not arrogance, that's confidence and fact!....
And I'm still waiting for the evidence and proof regarding Jesus supposedly been incarnate with a written Gospel at the time of Moses, Where's the proof!?! 😂
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Look at you, you're quite the little hypocrite aren't you, appealing to strawmen constantly and consistently......
I never appealed to ibn kathir regarding Paul as the point and benchmark regarding our scripture,
So that's a strawman right there!...
And you've now proven my initial point and case that you Muslims reject your Quran and sources when we Christians are using what they actually state to expose you all amd your cult!
Ibn kathir has rejected the Quran if he claims that the injil was corrupted at the time of Constantine, and he got historical facts wrong, Quran and Hadiths claim in 7th century the injil was authentic, valid, trustworthy, uncorrupted!....
Furthermore, you've rejected a messenger of Al-Lah by rejecting Paul, because as I've already pointed out, the injil is the entire Bible including Paul, multiple Tafsirs, including Qurtubi and Tabari along with ibn kathir and many others all affirm pual to be a messenger of Isa and Al-Lah, and if you reject a single messenger then you reject all including Muhammad!....
So right now, you've just disbelieved multiple times, you're triggering 4:137 and thereby become an rejected apostate,
So who's now right, ibn kathir and you, or the Quran and Hadiths!?!...
Now as for your second response...
1 - I never asked if it mentions Al-Lah, I asked where does Al-Lah refer to Al-Lah as Yahweh, you can't provide the Quranic verse, so your strawman fails, and you've proven that Al-Lah can't be and isn't Yahweh, so Al-Lah isn't the God of Abraham, the prophets/Apostles, our scripture, or us, which 9:29 proves, and 9:29 exposes the contradiction in 5:72, and 5:72 doesn't mention Yasue Al-Masih!....As I said, Al-Lah wouldn't need mentioning in 9:29 if 5:72 was what we are falsely claimed of! 😂 🤣
So that's 4:82 triggered!
2 & 3 - already exposed by 1, with elaboration, you've just affirmed that the Quran gets its genealogy from the Bible, but Bible affirms Jesus Christ, the Messiah, comes from Judah not Levi, and that Jesus Christ wasn't called isa/Esau, and wasn't a nephew to Moses or a Levite, so Isa can't be Jesus Christ!......
Who is Isa!?! 😂 🤣
4 - you've just rejected the Quran again, 2:89 affirms the Bible is a criterion for you to appeal to if in doubt, and you've affirmed that the injil is the entire Bible, including Paul!
And you've just proven that because Isa/Esau isn't a reference for Jesus in the Bible, again, Isa can't be Jesus Christ! 😂 🤣
And the above points refute your defamatory number 5, and expose and prove the point and issues with Deedat's claim (6)!
See how your tap dancing has got you and your cult exposed and busted! 😂 🤣 🤣
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Actually my little cherry picker, I state what I state based on the former statements in John 5:17-19
"But Jesus answered them, To this very day My Father is at His work, and I too am working.”
"Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him. Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."
And you've affirmed that your position is dependant on your logic regarding John 5:19,
Well John 5:19 only strengthens my position because again, the Son can only do what the Son "Sees" the Father doing, so again, the Father doesn't have to teach the Son, the Son already has the means and ability to do, the Father is merely showing the Son the Way and Will of the Father, and as is evident in 5:19, the Son in concurrence is Eager and Willing to be shown in order to do the Father's Will!
And I'll just point out, that just because the Father shows Jesus, that's irrelevant to Will, same as knowledge,......
If your father has shown you things willing that you do, and you're in concurrence and do, for example, your father shows you how to treat your mother, and you are in concurrence with your father in the way your mother should be tret and therefore do as your father has shown and willed you do, at any point were you truly lacking in any knowledge or capability, and at any point was your will independant of your fathers will!?!
Also your position is a paradoxical oxymoron!.....
You're saying that in order for the Father and Son to have One Will, the Father and Son have to have independant Wills, which would defeat your former statement!
Finally, let's not let John 5:18 go unaddressed,
Who did Jesus Himself declare equality with!?!
Now, Revelation 1:1,
You've identified that God is the Father, and that the revelation came direct from Jesus,
You then say that Jesus then communicated the revelation through "His" angel.
And then that this dictates Jesus to be an intermediary and not as God Himself, who you identify as the Father.
Well that's again paradoxically oxymoronic!
We don't claim the Father and Son are hypostatically one and the same, that's called Modalism my dear fellow, and Modalism isn't Triunism!....You seem to have this misunderstanding that hypostatic distinction bares some sort of relevance, it doesn't, so let it go!.....
Also, you use "Him" when referring to both the Father and Jesus!
And you expose another oxymoron in stating that Jesus is a mediator, intermediary, and if fully God Jesus wouldn't need to receive anything from God, but you state that Jesus sent an angel, that angel would be the mediator, the intermediary, the one providing the revelation, but it's meant to be Jesus' Revelation from the Father according to you!
Now, I'll help you out.....
God is the Father in this introduction to the book, the Father gave revelation to Jesus for Jesus Himself to show us, not for Jesus to delegate the task to an angel to show us!
"He made it known by sending His Angel to His servant John",
If the Father gave Jesus revelation to show us, and the "He" sent "His Angel" to "His servant John", who is the "He", and who is "the Angel"!?!
Think about it, either Jesus is God, or the Angel of God, and as we've identified the Father is God, Jesus has to be the Angel of God/the Father!
Now here's where even if you want to try and dispute whether Jesus is the Angel of God or Jesus sent an angel......
Whoever is the Angel of God in Revelation 1:1 is the one and same Angel of God Who declared explicitly that the Angel of God Himself is God in Genesis 31:13!
So, now you have to accept that either Jesus is God, or, your position dictates there's another angel that is god alongside God, which is it!?!
You also said in your response to cooloutac that you understand John 10:30 to mean the Father and Jesus are unified in purpose and action, this would dictate identical Will, you've just refuted your yourself by proving and affirming my position with your fallacy against cooloutac.
Which by default refutes your entire position because you've acknowledged now that the Father and Jesus are One in a way, and you affirm that one can have many meanings/applications, which dictates that your position being dependant on one only being applicable and meaning one singular hypostatically is a flawed and false premise/presupposition to hold/appeal to!
If there's One Divine Nature, Substance, Esscence, Will,
And this One Divine Nature, Substance, Esscence, Will unifies the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit,
And by default it's this One Divine Nature, Substance, Esscence, Will that makes the hypostasis Divine,
How many Divine Natures, Substances, Esscences, Wills are there!?!
On these grounds, my answer to your final question/statement.....
I'd be unable to agree with your final statement as it's proven fallacious!
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To make such a claim dictates you claim to have the hikmah, so educate me, answer Al-Lah's Riddle (2:28).....
I exist in a state of death, then I'm resurrected/created/live, then die, then resurrect again, so what and where am I in my initial state of death!?!
I can't wait for the amazing answer to this riddle, but I reckon you, and even your most "knowledgeable", can't answer! 😂 🤣
And you've in another comment claimed we have no knowledge regarding our scripture, so tell me, Revelation 1:1, is Jesus God or the Angel of God!?!....
Here, I'll even help you out, Jesus has to be One or the Other!
😂
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Haha! Now you've proven you're the ignorant! I've read the Bible, Quran, and I have the 3 different Arabic Hafs, Warsh, and Qaloon Qurans, I've got your Hadiths, Tafsirs, and I've got hundreds upon hundreds of additional Islamic sources, I've got Arabic lexicons/dictionaries, including a Quranic root word dictionary, Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic dictionaries/lexicons, I know more than you about your cult, and our scripture!
And everyone can see that you can't even answer a couple of basic questions based on both!
If you think you know our scripture, then you'd be able to answer Revelation 1:1, so come on, educate me!
If you know your joke book better than I, then answer 2:28!
I tell you what, if you can answer bith of the questions I've asked, and validate islam, I'll take the shahada right here and now!
Now let's see if you're able to back your mouth up! I don't hink you can, because like all Muslims, you're all fallacious Taqiyya Bid'ah talk! 😂🤣
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I've got you now, you're busted!
17:44 states I don't have to do anything, I don't need to convert, become a muslim, I can worship the One True Triune God Yahweh, which upholds the 9:29 contradiction, and you can't explain or dispute this because the second you can, you prove Al-Lah is in error claiming no one knows how 17:44 works!
Now as for your Isa and the injil, Isa and the injil are from the time of Moses, and Isa is claimed to be a Levite (7:155-157, 19:28, & 66:12)
Ahmed Deedat claimed that Isa is an Arabic translation of Esau NOT Yeshua which in Arabic is Yasue, and nowhere in your Quran does it mention Yasue Al-Masih anywhere!
So your Isa has the wrong name, is from the wrong tribe, and time period!
Furthermore, your Isa having a written book called the injil when Jesus Christ IS the Gospel, hence why all the Gospels are called the Gospel of Jesus Christ, because they are the Gospels (Good News) of the Living Gospel that is He!
And finally, 5:46-47 claims the injil is the entire Bible, validated, and authentic, in the 7th century!
The Hadiths claim Muhammad swore an oath on the Torah, and Waraqa was translating an injil, again, in the 7th century!
Ibn kathir and ibn Taymiyyah affirm our scripture is authentic, the truth, uncorrupted!
So now to try and reject or discredit our scripture is to only reject your Quran, Hadiths, Tafsirs, and scholars!
And dont forget 4:137, if you disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve again, which by default is falling into further disbelief, then Al-Lah permanently rejects you no matter how many times you state the shahada, pray, or follow the Sunnah to the letter!
So you're now halfway there, do you feel brave enough to state & post the shahada, and then make the same claim again......Go on, I dare you!
And here's the cherry on the top....
22:52 & 39:37 is a contradiction proving all your Quranic prophets are false and triggers 4:82!
See! I told you I know your comic book and cult better than you!
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@Ap-ko3so
Unless you can refute everything I've stated, you and your cult are busted!
Look at how you're now scared to stand by your fallacious ignorance, if you're statements are true and in accordance with Islam, then you'll have no fear in stating/posting the shahada and then repeating your claims, the fact you haven't, and won't, proves that you're going against and rejecting the Quran!
Now how about you answer Revelation 1:1, who is Jesus in that verse, God, or the Angel of God, it's not hard, here, I'll even post the verse so you can read it, and then answer!.......
Revelation 1:1
This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John,
Now answer my question!
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@Ap-ko3so
You've just got yourself and your cult busted again!
Jesus referred to and quoted Deuteronomy 6:4 and the word is Echad, which is the root of Ahad (112:1), and Jesus is referring to Yahweh NOT Al-Lah!
And because of Ahad in 112:1, Al-Lah now can't be Wahid, but a unified 1, so how many Al-Lah's is Al-Lah, that are also plural recipients of inheritance in 28:58, so who are these Al-Lah's inheriting from!?!
And dont even try appealing to the Arabic or royal we, royal we still dictates plurality in 28:58, and the Arabic sound/broken plurals aswel as the definition of inheritors is and are identical to English!
Let me make it simple for you, there's nowhere in the Quran, Hadiths, Tafsirs, etc etc, that you can run to, hide behind, where I can't expose and bust you and your cult!
And everytime you fail to deal with my points/questions, you prove I'm right and you can't refute/answer me, and failing to do so, dictates my points/questions stand, remain valid and active!
So you'd better start dealing with them, because so far you've embarrassed yourself, your Al-Lah, and your fraudulent pagan Sabian!
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@Ap-ko3so
Actually, it's you who has just exposed and proven his ignorance!
Go on, elaborate on your scripted response, what do you mean by 1+1+1=1, watch how you've just busted yourself and your cult yet again!
You think the Trinity is problematic, when actually it's the most powerful refutation of your Osiris-Lah and your cult!
Want to show me where in the Quran it correctly describes the Trinity, if Al-Lah is all knowing, Guranteed you can't produce a single verse! 😂 🤣
And guess what, your Al-Lah's are 3 disconnected created hypostasis in 15:58, 59, 60, & 66, whereas our scripture claims only 1 Yahweh regarding the visit to Abraham!
Let's simplify that for you!....
We say 1 Yahweh, your Al-Lah claims 3 Al-Lah's! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@Ap-ko3so
Read and understand something, you keep insulting my sister in Christ referring to her as male, well your pagan Sabian bastard hell spawn son of moo-ta was bi and a cross dresser, so don't throw insulting fallacious stones in your glass pagan kaaba!
And on the topic, as you've deviated to it,
33:56, Al-Lah prays FOR not TO, even to bless requires prayer!...
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ 👈يُصَلُّونَ👉 عَلَى ٱلنَّبِيِّۚ يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ صَلُّواْ عَلَيۡهِ وَسَلِّمُواْ تَسۡلِيمًا
English Transliteration
Inna Allaha wamala-ikatahu
👉yusalloonaAAala👈 annabiyyi ya ayyuha allatheenaamanoo salloo AAalayhi wasallimoo tasleema
Sad-Lam-Waw = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honour, magnifiy, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
Yusalloona (يصلون) plu. 33:56
Quranic root dictionary - Page 420
Published by Seyyed Hossein an Iranian philosopher and University Professor of Islamic studies at George Washington University.
Even 108:2 busts Al-Lah as praying in 33:56!....
فَصَلِّ لِرَبِّكَ وَٱنۡحَرۡ
English Transliteration
👉Fasalli👈 lirabbika wanhar
Sahih International
So 👉pray👈 to your Lord and sacrifice [to Him alone].
Mufti Taqi Usmani
So, offer 👉Salāh (prayer)👈 to your Lord, and sacrifice.
So little pagan Sabian polytheist, who is your Al-Lah praying to!?!
And continue to insult my sister, I will go def comedy jam on your hassan lollipop sucking pagan Sabian!
Watch your mouth!
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@malcolmlayton2050
Amen Brother! God bless you! 🙏
9:29 is a declaration and affirmation Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, if Al-Lah was Yahweh then believing in Al-Lah wouldn't be relevant as part of 9:29!
Al-Lah is a name not a title ("the god" (multiple verses affirm this))!
7:155-157 Isa and the injil are present at the time of Moses, so Maryam has to be present to give birth to Isa, and she's a Levite (19:28) as is Isa by default, so wrong tribe, and Isa is an Arabic translation of Esau, Yasue is Jesus in Arabic, and nowhere does the Quran mention Yasue Al-Masih, so Isa can't be Jesus Christ, which means the injil isn't our scripture, and nasara can't be us!
And that is how quick, simple, and easy it is to expose this cult in its entirety as false!
😂 🤣 🤣
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Peace and guidance my backside!..
Your cult incites hatred, anti semitism, violence, and oppression!
Go on, show me what's peaceful about 9:29, which by the way, busts your Al-Lah as a fraud, can't be the God of Abraham, the Prophets/Apostles, our Scripture, us, hence why your Al-Lah is included alongside the pagan Sabian!...
Prove me wrong, show me where Al-Lah refers to Al-Lah as Yahweh!
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@petrospetroupetrou9653
That's one limp strawman you have there!
Because you have no basis for your fallacy, you don't have any means to disprove God's existence, to dispute God's existence, the burden of proof is on you not us, Jesus Christ walked the earth amongst us, that's a historical fact, therefore, ipso facto, our God Exists, this refutes your claim to temporality (an oxymoron) based, and dependent, on a contingent, God is neither temporal or a contingent, and God is Eternal! 😂
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Nowhere in the quran does it state Muhammad's full name, Muhammad who, Ahmad who!?!
Who is/are the author/s of the first quran, what is/are their full name/s!?!
Where is the complete first written quran in order for it to be claimed to be preserved!?!
And the irony, quran 1:1 by admission in their own sources, is a corruption containing a corruption, and Bid'ah, because it was added to the quran, bismillah was then tweaked and edited, and the pagan Sabian, Umar, etc, never recited quran 1:1!
Also, 5:46-48 states in the 7th century that the injil is the entire Bible including Paul, it contains the entire Torah, not a bit, not a percentage, and it's authentic, as a scripture "between their hands"!
Waraqa was translating the injil in the 7th century, Where's the injil Waraqa was translating from, or his translation!?!
And finally, 7:155-157 claims the injil, and Isa by default, were present during the time of Moses!.....
So, Siraj, Muslims, if Isa is meant to be Jesus Christ, and the injil is meant to be our Scripture, want to prove that Jesus was incarnate during the time of Moses with a written injil in tow!...
And either you admit the injil isn't our Scripture and therefore Isa ISN'T Jesus Christ, or, you're rejecting your quran!....Checkmate, you're in a catch 22!.....Busted! 😂🤣
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It's not radical Islam it's orthodox Islam!..
Selected Ahadith by Suyuti
2093 - Jihad in the path of Al-Lah is tourism for my Ummah
2754 - "Now, we invade them and they will not invade us"
2778 - "Islam dominates, and is not dominated over"
9:29 - Sahih International
Fight (Qatiloo (to kill)) those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Al-Qurtubi Tafsir
3:56
Al-Jami’s Interpretation of the Rulings of the Qur’an / Al-Qurtubi (d. 671 AH) is classified & verified
Al-Lah Almighty says: {As for those who have disbelieved, I torment them severely in the world and in the hereafter} which means killing, crucifixion, exile, and punishment, and in the Hereafter with fire.
تفسير الجامع لاحكام القرآن/ القرطبي (ت 671 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
قوله تعالى: { فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَٱلآخِرَةِ } يعني بالقتل والصلب والسبي والجِزية، وفي الآخرة بالنار.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4557
In-book reference : Book 65, Hadith 79
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 80 (deprecated numbering scheme)
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Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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@rdvangercek8990
Thank you brother, but trust me, I already know this and way more, I have hundreds upon hundreds of sources including but not limited to the Quran, main Hadiths, and Tafsirs, as I'll demonstrate below, and all my Brothers and Sisters who know me, know!......
Selected Ahadith by Suyuti
2093 - Jihad in the path of Al-Lah is tourism for my Ummah
2754 - "Now, we invade them and they will not invade us"
2778 - "Islam dominates, and is not dominated over"
9:29 - Sahih International
Fight (Qatiloo (to kill)) those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Al-Qurtubi Tafsir
3:56
Al-Jami’s Interpretation of the Rulings of the Qur’an / Al-Qurtubi (d. 671 AH) is classified & verified
Al-Lah Almighty says: {As for those who have disbelieved, I torment them severely in the world and in the hereafter} which means killing, crucifixion, exile, and punishment, and in the Hereafter with fire.
تفسير الجامع لاحكام القرآن/ القرطبي (ت 671 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
قوله تعالى: { فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَٱلآخِرَةِ } يعني بالقتل والصلب والسبي والجِزية، وفي الآخرة بالنار.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4557
In-book reference : Book 65, Hadith 79
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 80 (deprecated numbering scheme)
There's a reason I'm undefeated in debates, why Muslims can't handle or refute/answer me, because I know and have access to too much info and sources on their cult!
But thank you for sharing and keep sharing to all, but don't worry too much, or place all your focus on me, I'm a polemical beast! 😂 🤣
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@echoantring
Easy to claim, but evidently harder to prove!😂
The hadith is clear, there’s concern shall we say, that there’ll be confusion, that you’ll think the one eyed is your lord, so you’re informed that to avoid the confusion, your lord has two sighted eyes rather than one, you say no, this is nonsense, so,….
Who is the one described as a man with partial sight?
Who is the one with full sight?
Who are the two you’re potentially prone to confusing with each other?
Are you claiming that you have a lord on earth alongside Al-Lah?
Also, your position is evidently dependant on not being able to see Al-Lah, but Al-Lah has a shape, will change that shape, the second shape will be rejected by you, and then Al-Lah will come in a third shape you’ll accept!…..
What are shapes 1, 2, and 3?
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@echoantring
Oh yeah, 6:103 contradicts claims in your book, Hadiths, Tafsirs that musa spoke directly to Al-Lah, saw Al-Lah, what did Musa see!?!
Also, the verse dictates a paradoxical oxymoron!….
Because if no vision can perceive Al-Lah, but Al-Lah perceives all vision, the former is inclusive of the latter!….
So, if Al-Lah can perceive through our vision, but our vision cannot perceive Al-Lah, Al-Lah cannot perceive all vision, if Al-Lah can perceive all vision, then we can perceive Al-Lah!
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@echoantring
Your position is dependant on a flawed presupposition, your god isn’t our God!
Furthermore, this doesn’t offer any sort of relevance to my points!…
You’re dependant on hypostatic divinity, that’s a major mistake, it doesn’t apply to the Trinity!….
However, your Quran affirms multiple hypostasis can be unified by one nature!….
Now, your logic actually dictates that in 15:51-66
Now, let’s look at what the passage state when not cherry picking!….
1 Timothy 1:16
But for this very reason I was shown Mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect patience as an example to those who would believe in Him for eternal life.
Now, do you believe that Jesus is the One to give eternal life, or only Al-Lah!?!
1 Timothy 6:3-5
If anyone teaches another doctrine and disagrees with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and with godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. Instead he has an unhealthy interest in controversies and disputes about words, out of which come envy, strife, abusive talk, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind who are devoid of truth. These men regard godliness asa means of gain.
You and your best have just been described perfectly!
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@echoantring
Haha, did you really think you could divert from the twins to the Bible to escape, nah, you’re not escaping!…
Now, regarding our Scripture, you’re not the educator, you’re the pupil 10:94), we decide whether your book is legit or not!
5:46-47 claims our Scripture is legit, authentic, preserved, in the 7th century, and that it’s the the entire Bible, including Paul, Tafsirs even claim Paul to be both a messenger of Isa and Al-Lah!
54:43 affirms the zabur is sacred scriptures written by humans, and it’s detailed, which dictates it’s more than just the Psalms!
But here’s the cherry on top, the weightiest burden of proof…..
7:155-157 claims The injil, and by default Isa, Maryam, the disciples, and all prophets between musa and isa are all present during the time of Moses!…….prove it!….
Exodus 3:15 states Yahweh is the Name of our God, 28:29-30 says Al-Lah, can’t be both, because Yahweh and Al-Lah are two completely different names!…..
6:78 states al-Lah is worshipped as god by Abraham’s people, the name of that god is 36:1!
So, you have the wrong god, and unless you can prove Jesus, the Disciples/Apostles, an injil book, Mary, and all the prophets before Jesus were all from the time of Moses!
So, I strongly suggest and advise not to further try quoting cherry picked verses, because Hebrews 1:3, John 15:26, and Revelation 1:1 is all I need to refute!…..While I’m waiting for the proof, I’ll now prove why we’re people of the book, and you’re commanded to come to us to learn as 10:94 commands you!
John 17:1 Jesus and the Father Glorify each other!
John 17:2 Jesus is granted authority over all people so that He Himself gives eternal life to specifically those who are His people!
John 17:4-5 Jesus reiterates that He and the Father Glorify each other, and that they share the Glory, have done before the world existed!
John 17:6 Jesus revealed the Father’s Name!
John 17:10 Jesus affirms that everything that’s the Father’s is Jesus’, and vice versa!
John 17:11 Jesus affirms His Name and the Father’s Name is one and the same!
John 17:19-20 only those who believe in the message from the Disciples/Apostles have the truth!
Matthew 19:16-17 Jesus was acknowledged as God, the man is asking Jesus what he needs to do to obtain eternal life, he called Jesus Good Master, Jesus asks why the man asked about why the man is asking about what is Good, not whether or not He is Good, that’s already acknowledged and established, and Jesus stated to keep the Commandments, the man asked which one’s, and Jesus answered in 19:18-19. 19:20 he man affirms he’d kept the Commandments stated!
Matthew 19:21 Jesus told the man to sell his possessions and to follow Jesus, so, Jesus remained the Good Master, never corrected the man, and even your book claims only Isa was sinless, and holy!….
Is your book wrong!?!
John 12:23 Jesus stated it was His time to be Glorified!
John 12:26 Jesus states to follow Him, serve Him, His followers are His servants, and by serving Him the Father will honor the servant!
John 12:28-29 Jesus asks the Father to Glorify His Name, the Father states He Glorified it, and would again, and there were witnesses present to testify!
John 12:44-45 believing in Jesus is equal to believing in the Father, and whoever sees Jesus sees the Father!
John 12:49-50 Jesus stated what the Father Willed….Verbatim!…..And what He stated dictates that in doing so eternal life can come from the Father, and that dictates when Jesus stated that eternal life comes from Him, that’s what He was Commanded to say by the Father, so the Father grants eternal life through Jesus!
John 7:16, John 17:3, only further strengthen the Trinity!
You’ve assumed I follow Paul, I’ve not at any point made such a claim, and you’ve not established otherwise through this discourse!
And Jesus stated explicitly that He didn’t come to change the law, but to fulfil it, if a law is fulfilled, it’s completed, and it’s your book that claims Isa came to change the law, so your accusation against Paul comes back on you, how do you know Paul wasn’t following as 3:50 claims about Isa changing the law!?!
Matthew 5:19 now goes against you, and, notice Paul would still be in heaven according to the verse if going with your claim!
1 Corinthians 15:9 you should’ve read 15:10!…..”But by the Grace of God I am what I am, and His Grace to me was not in vain. No, I worked harder than all of them-yet not I, but the Grace of God that was with me.”
Paul just referred to Jesus as God!…..Who was it he interacted with, the Father, Holy Spirit, or Jesus, even your Tafsirs claim it was Jesus!
2 Corinthians 11:5 Paul is stating he’s not in any way lacking in knowledge when compared to the “super apostles, you’ve just bugged Paul up!
Romans 3:28 sends you back to my previous point regarding 3:50 and Paul!
Psalms 116:16 uses the Name Yahweh, and 54:43 claims this is legit Sacred Scripture!
25:33 dictates and necessitates that your Tafsirs have to be the truth, so you can’t dismiss them, so, 36:1 Ibn Abbas tafsir, and 4:157 qurtubi tafsir 22:52 Jalalayn, Ibn Kathir, Tabari Tafsirs are the truth!….
Great, those Tafsirs work for me and against you!
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@echoantring
Haha, did you really think you could divert to the Bible, nah!…
Now, regarding our Scripture, you’re not the educator, you’re the pupil (10:94), we decide whether your book is legit or not!
5:46-47 claims our Scripture is legit, authentic, preserved, in the 7th century, and that it’s the entire Bible, including Paul, Tafsirs even claim Paul to be both a messenger of Isa and Al-Lah!
54:43 affirms the zabur is sacred scriptures written by humans, and it’s detailed, which dictates it’s more than just the Psalms!
But here’s the cherry on top, the weightiest burden of proof…..
7:155-157 claims The injil, and by default Isa, Maryam, the disciples, and all prophets between musa and isa are all present during the time of Moses!…….prove it!
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@salehal4291
Actually, Hadiths claim Adam was made in the image of Al-Lah!
And, here’s the hadith Godlogic referred to…..
Narrated Ubadah ibn as-Samit:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: I have told you so much about the Dajjal (Antichrist) that I am afraid you may not understand. The Antichrist is short, hen-toed, woolly-haired, one-eyed, an eye-sightless, and neither protruding nor deep-seated. If you are confused about him, know that your Lord is not one-eyed.
Abu Dawud said: 'Amr bin Al-Aswad was appointed a judge.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud, 4320
In-Book Reference: Book 39, Hadith 30
English Reference: Book 38, Hadith 4306
So, the description is clear regarding Dajjal, that’s not the issue, we concur, the issue is…”If you are confused about him, know that your Lord is not one-eyed.”
Now, simple question, who would you be confused about, as in who’s the “him”, who would you confuse the “him” with, and what is described as the distinction between the “him” and Dajjal!?!
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@salehal4291
Actually, Hadiths claim Adam was made in the image of Al-Lah!
And, here’s the key part of the hadith Godlogic referred to…..
“If you are confused about him, know that your Lord is not one-eyed.”
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud, 4320
In-Book Reference: Book 39, Hadith 30
English Reference: Book 38, Hadith 4306
Now, simple question, who would you be confused about, as in who’s the “him”, who would you confuse the “him” with, and what is described as the distinction between the “him” and the one that you could confuse the “him” with!?!
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@aliakoum2181
Abdool, your desperate attempt backfires as a paradoxical oxymoron!....
If the burden of proof is on Chris for claiming ibn fibbin ketchup footnote is lying on the grounds that there's no proof/documentation of the claim made by ibn fibbin ketchup footnote that the event took place, then by default ibn fibbin footnote is too a claimant and therefore by default the burden of proof Chris requested is justified, valid, and on ibn fibbin ketchup footnote initially,
And the fact you've claimed he doesn't need to prove anything, then neither does Chris, all Chris needs to do is point out the fact that there's no record/documentation to substantiate ibn fibbin ketchup footnote's claim!....
If there's no proof, nothing to support/prove ibn fibbin ketchup footnote's claim, then he's a liar!....
That's all the proof and evidence Chris needs, it's now for ibn fibbin ketchup footnote to prove his claim or remain exposed and outed as a liar!
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@aaronharun1394H
Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17 - Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30 - Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4 - Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19 - Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38 - Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187 - Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34 - Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63 - Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47 - Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85 - Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42 - Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44 - Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63 - Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116 - Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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Continued!....
Al-Lah's spirit guides Mad-ham-mu not Jibril:
93:7 - Sahih International
And He found you lost and guided [you],
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
(as regards) Allah's Statement: "Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith." (75.16) When Gabriel revealed the Divine Inspiration 👉in👈Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) , 👉he (Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)) moved his tongue and lips👈, and that state used to be very hard for him, and that movement indicated that revelation was taking place. So Allah revealed in Surat Al-Qiyama which begins: 'I do swear by the Day of Resurrection...' (75) the Verses:-- 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith. It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) in your mind, and give you the ability to recite it by heart. (75.16-17) Ibn `Abbas added: It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) (in your mind), and give you the ability to recite it by heart means, "When We reveal it, listen. Then it is for Us to explain it," means, 'It is for us to explain it through your tongue.' So whenever Gabriel came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ' he would keep quiet (and listen), and when the Angel left, the Prophet (ﷺ) would recite that revelation as Allah promised him.
Sahih Al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 451
Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4929
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@aaronharun1394H
So, Al-Lah is one, one what, being one, and your whole logic dictates that being 1, 1 hypostasis, is what makes Al-Lah a god,
Abdool, I'm 1, 1 hypostasis, so we have comparison on your part between Al-Lah and creation, and just like creation aka me, I and Al-Lah are equal in divinity because we're both 1, and that's what is divine based on your logic!
Prostrate to me, I'm your Al-Lah now!
And I say you have to pray to me 5,000 times a day, and I'm not negotiating, so get to it abdool! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@ay1ism
And you've just exposed and proven your ignorance whilst stating a hypocritical oxymoron!
Your logic is evident through observation and context of your publicised statement, yet you dispute my knowing and understanding your logic on this basis, whilst claiming to know whether I know myself or not without a publicised statement to base your ignorant hypocritical conclusion on!
Now I ask you, how can you claim to be a child of Christ when you have evidently failed to follow Matthew 7:5!?!
And to assume my approach is based on Hate rather than exposing lies and defending truth yet again exposes your ignorance, with a large dollop of arrogance and pride to boot, so you're a sinful little ignoramus!
Hatun actually succeeds in getting the Muslims to engage in debates through her provocation, and has been ignored time and again when merely approaching them to ask questions!
You're even ignorant to the point you say her life "could also be in danger", well guess what, they've tried to kill her many times long before all this, so go educate yourself!
And if someone wants to drill holes in the Bible, whilst it may offend me, I don't need to act like they're acting because at the end of the day, it's a mass produced copy NOT our manuscripts, and they've done, and still do, alot worse, burning down and demolishing our churches, including Bibles, destroy statues including the crucifix statues of Christ, they've done and do far worse to our Brothers and Sisters around the world, they're Quran blasphemes and commands to persecute us,
So don't you try coming here with your ultracrepidarian self acting like you can try telling me or my Sister in Christ what we should and shouldn't do, you need to go and educate yourself!
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@generaljg4373
Pfft! 😂 🤣 🤣
Actually, Jesus Christ isn't even mentioned in the Quran, and the irony is, your cult is dependant on Jesus Christ and our scripture, without Jesus you've got nothing in your cult, Muhammad was dependant on Jesus Christ and our scripture, or is the Quran containing lies claiming your pagan Sabian to be in the Torah and injil!?! 😂 🤣
And challenge accepted, show me the Quran verse that correctly describes the Trinity!
Define the words "Tri" & "Unity"!
Aww, do you want to run to the next part of your script because you're an ignorant copy paste abdool who can't debate because you have 0 knowledge about Christ, Christianity, or our scripture, and worse, know even less about your cult so can't defend it! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@jxcess3891
100%👍, and he's constantly triggered, we all live in his empty skull rent free, he's the biggest abdool coward, too scared to have a live debate, and we know who he is, that he's got a distinct voice like Joe Pasquale, that's why he won't ever dare debate any of us live, we could all have a debate on Twitter and broadcast it as a livestream here, but he knows his scam career would be finished instantly! 😂 🤣
I just have my fun exposing him now, and everytime he fails to answer/refute/debate me live, he only exposes how weak he is in every and all capacities! He's impotent like his pagan Sabian! 😂 🤣
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Haha, brilliant! 😂 🤣
Yeah, he's all triggered and doing a sheikh rattle n roll!
He can't even provide the definitions for "Tri" & "Unity" because just that response/demand, if answered, destroys his Da'if "3 Gods" fallacy!
He's even thinks that human nature is the mind, so because we have human nature, he can't have human nature, so he has to have the nature of an animal or insect etc, and based on his constant braying, we can only conclude he is a donkey!
I've held back the verse proving Al-Lah is 100% a pagan moon god by Al-Lah's own declaration and admission, and I'm not talking about 36:1 either, but when he starts up his braying again, I'm going to expose his pagan moon Lah! 😂 🤣
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That's a strawman, please, for your sake, don't do it!....
I didn't claim Shamsi to be the mastermind!
I didn't claim the source of the incited hatred and violence in the cult and sources comes from Shamsi!
Shamsi got the abdools riled up over Hatun specifically, and incited violence with his own mouth against Hatun, thereby targeting her, he didn't quote a cultlamic source when he targeted Hatun, he spoke of his own opinion, perspective and viewpoint on how Hatun should be treated, and his opinion and view is all good in cultlam, but doesn't change the fact it's his opinion and view which is the incitement and instigation!
So where Shamsi and all these abdools are sourcing such conduct from is irrelevant to the point, I'm talking about WHO incited and instigated the violence against Hatun, which is Shamsi, and thereby Shamsi is the source and cause via his incitement as to why that individual targeted Hatun!.....All the Christians offend because they all expose cultlam in debates, yet it's only Hatun that's been stabbed as a result of Shamsi and his mouth!
Think it through, in a court of law, you think if you publicly started stating in your opinion someone should be harmed, and someone harms the one you publicly state should be harmed, and both you and the one who harmed the person you publicly targeted believe that you have the right to harm that person based on an ideology,
You are still the instigator and incitor on the grounds that there's reasonable suspicion, probable cause, and proven motive based on your statements, and there's no evidence the individual had any intention or pre meditation to act before you spoke, but shortly after you did, the individual acted and tried to do what you incited and instigated!
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@aaronharun1394H
Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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Haha, I see you're running from me and trying to repeat your oxymoron in desperation for anyone and everyone to laugh at you!
Abdool, you've ran from me in regards to debating, you challenged me, I accepted, you ran, I challenge you, you run, I've even agreed you can bring your bf hijab, mansur, Hashim, hamza, bring ibn Fibbin, Jake the fake Taqiyyaphysician, brin every single abdool you rate, and I'll take you all down one by one and altogether!
And you know I can and will, that's why you run from me, that's why you fear me, that's why you have nightmares about me, that's why you can't get me out of your head!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Your fallacy is flawed from start to finish! 😂 🤣
God being Triune, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all give Commands that are equal in authority! 😂 🤣 🤣
Being Triune, and as God, Eternal, there can be no younger or older, which leads to the final flaw, there's no existing before or after, that would contradict being God, Eternal! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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More waffle easily exposed and refuted with a short response!....
Both have to repent for their sins, both believe in the Trinity, yoyve affirmed this and just busted your cult and Quran (5:116), if they intentionally sin then that creates a paradoxical oxymoron, and the different views of good works are symantical, because the good works come naturally through following Christ and His command!
So protestants believe faith alone, and through faith the good works naturally manifest, Catholics are vigilant and conscious of those good works that manifest as a result of following Christ, the salvation ultimately comes through and from Christ, which both agree upon! 😂
Now as for you lot, Sunni don't agree with Shia and vice versa, and guess what, the Shia are actually the more in tune and real abdools, you Sunni d's are the heretics! Want me to prove it from the Quran!?! 😂 🤣
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Abdool! You don't know English or Arabic!
Who said Al-Lah is a queen, not I, but if your Al-Lah like your pagan Sabian likes to dress up in women's clothing then the Arabic sandal would fit, so Al-Lah wears it! 😂 🤣
And if you're denying that Al-Lah is al-Malik, which does mean king...
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself 👉Malik Al-Amlak👈 (👉the king of kings👈).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6205
In-book: Book 78, Hadith 229
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 73, Hadith 224 (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari
then you're denying one of Al-Lah's "attributes" and "names"!
You've also exposed now that Al-Lah can't be using the royal we of Al-Lah isn't claiming to be a king, so that dictates shirk using the literal "we"! 😂 🤣
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Haha, abdool! I've quoted theologians, it's no surprise academics go over a camelade pickled brain like yours!
Neither the quotes or I deny Our God is 3 persons, but we also DON'T say that the Divinity is in anyway hypostatic, come on, you think you know and can dictate what the Trinity is, explain, if the Divinity is hypostasis exempt, what is the Divinity, and you have to prove there's 3 seperate, disconnected divinities in order for your ignorant nonsense to stand! 😂 🤣
And abdool!....you're the ones claiming that your Al-Lah, your Al-Lah's divinity, is hypostatic, so by default your own fallacy backfires because everything that's a single hypostasis is Divine, an Al-Lah!
Sounds like Hinduism to me! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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How can you claim a contradiction, I'm asking you to show me via a Biblical verse the name and reference to a specific individual, Aww, are you running away Mr self professed "Biblical Scholar"!?!
Now, to call me Nestorian, I'd have to believe that the Logos was a Divine existence, and then Jesus incarnate to be a seperate existence, that's paradoxical because I believe the logos became incarnate,
Does that actually sound anything like your nonsense about being either a human being or a human person, which is an oxymoron, because both are one and the same!
Want me to post just definitions with one liner points and questions, and watch how you'll be busted just as quick and effortlessly! 😂 🤣
You're actually now exposed and busted not only as being ignorant and a slanderer, but also a complete ultracrepidarian who is exposed as a fraud, hmm, sounds about right when following the Sunnah of your best fraudulent example that you follow! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Definitions expose and refute you Alonzo! 😂🤣🤣.......
👉If what makes God God is👈....
Being:
The state or quality of having existence: synonym: existence.
The totality of all things that exist.
A person.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1 a: the quality or state of having existence.
b(1): something that is conceivable and hence capable of existing
(2): something that actually exists
(3): the totality of existing things
c: conscious existence: Life
2: the qualities that constitute an existent thing: Essence Personality
3: a living thing sentient beings a mythical being: Person
Merriam Webster
1. The state or quality of having existence: technical advances that have only recently come into being. See Synonyms at existence.
2. The totality of all things that exist: theologians who hold that the mind of God is the source of all being.
3.
a. A person: "The artist after all is a solitary being" (Virginia Woolf).
b. An individual form of life; an organism: "We [humans] are the only beings who are aware that we shall die" (Seyyed Hossein Nasr).
c. An imaginary, conjectural, or supernatural creature: extraterrestrial beings.
4.
a. All the qualities constituting one that exists; the essence: the very being of human nature.
b. One's basic or essential nature: "[My grandfather's] face, words and gestures are a permanent part of my being" (Duane Nitatum).
conj. Chiefly Southern US, Upper Southern US, & New England
Because; since. Often used with as or that.
The Free Dictionary
a person or thing that exists:
The Cambridge Dictionary
Being is the present participle of be1
Collins Dictionary
the fact of existing; existence (as opposed to nonexistence).
conscious, mortal existence; life
substance or nature
something that exists
a living thing
Dictionary. Com
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉Then we first have to establish what is
the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉And how many 👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉There are👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉If it is established that the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉Is NOT to be hypostatic, but identified and established as something else, then by default the number of the hypostasis becomes irrelevant, and therefore to claim hypostatic orientation becomes a strawman, as the hypostasis and any number of the hypostasis involved are irrelevant in regards to the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
This includes by default......
Definition of Self:
The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual.
The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another; individuality.
One's consciousness of one's own being or identity; the ego.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1a (1): an individual's typical character or behavior
her true self was revealed
(2): an individual's temporary behavior or character
his better self
b: a person in prime condition
feel like my old self today
2: the union of elements (such as body, emotions, thoughts, and sensations) that constitute the individuality and identity of a person
Merriam Webster
the set of someone's characteristics, such as personality and ability, that are not physical and make that person different from other people
Cambridge Dictionary
1. The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual.
2. The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another; individuality.
3. One's consciousness of one's own being or identity; the ego.
4. One's own interests, welfare, or advantage.
5. Immunology That which the immune system identifies as belonging to the body: tissues no longer recognized as self.
The Free Dictionary
noun, plural selves [selvz].
a person or thing referred to with respect to complete individuality: one's own self.
a person's nature, character, etc.
Philosophy:
the ego; that which knows, remembers, desires, suffers, etc., as contrasted with that known, remembered, etc.
the uniting principle, as a soul, underlying all subjective experience.
Definition of consciousness:
The state or condition of being conscious.
A sense of one's personal or collective identity, including the attitudes, beliefs, and sensitivities held by or considered characteristic of an individual or group.
Special awareness or sensitivity.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1a: the quality or state of being aware especially of something within oneself.
b: the state or fact of being conscious of an external object, state, or fact.
c: AWARENESS
especially : concern for some social or political cause.
The organization aims to raise the political consciousness of teenagers.
2: the state of being characterized by sensation, emotion, volition, and thought : MIND
3: the totality of conscious states of an individual.
4: the normal state of conscious life
regained consciousness.
5: the upper level of mental life of which the person is aware as contrasted with unconscious processes.
Merriam Webster
the state of understanding and realizing something
the state of being awake, thinking, and knowing what is happening around you.
Cambridge Dictionary
the state of being conscious; awareness of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, surroundings, etc.
the thoughts and feelings, collectively, of an individual or of an aggregate of people.
full activity of the mind and senses, as in waking life.
awareness of something for what it is; internal knowledge.
concern, interest, or acute awareness.
the mental activity of which a person is aware as contrasted with unconscious mental processes.
Philosophy. the mind or the mental faculties as characterized by thought, feelings, and volition.
Dictionary. Com
consciousness [kon´shus-nes]
1. the state of being conscious; fully alert, aware, oriented, and responsive to the environment.
2. subjective awareness of the aspects of cognitive processing and the content of the mind.
3. the current totality of experience of which an individual or group is aware at any time.
4. in psychoanalysis, the conscious.
5. in Newman's conceptual model, health as expanding consciousness, the informational capacity of the human system, or its capacity for interacting with the environment; consciousness is considered to be coextensive with the universe, residing in all matter.
Medical Dictionary
Definition of Will:
1. The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides upon a course of action: championed freedom of will against a doctrine of predetermination.
2.
a. Diligent purposefulness; determination: an athlete with the will to win.
b. Self-control; self-discipline: lacked the will to overcome the addiction.
3. A desire, purpose, or determination, especially of one in authority: It is the sovereign's will that the prisoner be spared.
4. Deliberate intention or wish: Let it be known that I took this course of action against my will.
5. Free discretion; inclination or pleasure: wandered about, guided only by will.
6. Bearing or attitude toward others; disposition: full of good will.
The free dictionary
👉Can a human being be a person, or are they 2, seperate persons!?!....Let's take a look shall we!👈.....
Definition of a human being:
A human.
A person; a large sapient, bipedalprimate, with notably less hair than others of that order, of the species Homo sapiens.
Another, extinct member of the genus Homo
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
Human
Merriam Webster
a member of any of the races of Homo sapiens; person; man, woman, or child
1. any individual of the genus Homo, esp. a member of the species Homo sapiens.
2. a person, esp. as distinguished from other animals or as representing the human species: conditions not fit for human beings.
The Free Dictionary
A person
Cambridge Dictionary
A human being is a human child or adult.
Collins Dictionary
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Everyone is laughing at how you expose your ignorance regarding the Trinity when you ask if One of the Hypostasis is Triune, you've proven to everyone you don't understand the Trinity, and you've never actually done any sort of research into the Trinity and Christian Theology!
And it gets even more embarrassing for you when you claim Paul wrote the Book of Acts, and claim that Zwemer was alive at a conference when he was dead a year before!
You really are clueless, you're soooo desperate, you hate Jesus Christ, Christianity, and Christians so much, that you are willing to intentionally just spew and blurt out any nonsensical fallacious foolishness to try and attack Jesus Christ, us, and our scripture, but it always backfires because you always end up rejecting your pagan moon demon, your Quran, and your self professed demon possessed pagan Sabian charlatan soothsayer!
You'll never be worthy of debating me, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't take pleasure in exposing and bouncing you all over the court and slam dunking you like a basketball if you ever dared to grow a pair and a spine and actually have a proper debate with me!
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Your Quran affirms Pharaoh is the King, & that Joseph became Pharaoh/King, & even has co reignship with his parents, prove Joseph became Pharaoh/King of Egypt, & co reignship with his parents!......
12:55
Al-Qurtubi
There are four issues: The first: God Almighty’s saying: “He said: 'Put me on the treasures of the land.'” Saeed bin Mansour said: I heard Malik bin Anas say: Egypt is the treasury of the land, have I not heard his saying: “He made me on the treasury of the land, so he added to the ground.” {I am Hafiz} when I took over {Elim} to his command. And in the interpretation: I am a recruiter and he is the first to write in the cults. And it was said: “Hafeez” to estimate the sustenance, “knowing” the Sunnis of famine. Goebber said on the authority of Al-Dahhak on the authority of Ibn Abbas who said: The Messenger of God, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, said: “May God have mercy on my brother Yusef. The king turned and turned it back with his sword, and set a bed of gold for him, crowned with pearls and rubies, and struck on it a suit of staple, and the length of the bed was thirty cubits and a width of ten cubits, he had thirty beds and sixty attached, then he ordered him to come out, and he came out crowned, his face was snow His face was of the purity of the color of his face, so he sat on the bed and the kings came to him, and the king entered his house with his wives, and delegated to him the matter of Egypt, isolating Kotfir from what he had been and making Joseph in his place.
👉Ibn Zaid said: 👈
👉Pharaoh, the king of Egypt, had many treasuries other than food, so he surrendered all his authority to him👈, and Kotfir perished those nights, so 👉King Joseph👈 married Rael, the dear woman, and when he entered her, he said: Is this not better than what you wanted? ٰ She said: O friend, do not blame me. I was a beautiful, soft woman, as you can see, and my friend did not come to women, and you were as God made you from the good, so my soul overcame me. Joseph found her a virgin, and he afflicted her, and she bore him two men: Ephrathim bin Yusef, and Menasha bin Yusef. Wahb ibn Munabbih said: Rather, his marriage was Zelikhah, the dear woman between the two brothers, and that is that Zelikhah her husband and Joseph died in prison, and her money and my blindness were gone, crying at Yusef. In a procession of about a hundred thousand of the elders of his people, it was said to her: If you were exposed to him, perhaps he would help you with something, then it was told to her: Do not do it. His convoy, she rose, called out loudly: Glory be to the one who made kings slaves with their disobedience, and made slaves kings by their obedience, so Joseph said: What is this? So they brought her and she said: I was the one who served you on the breasts of my feet, and I rolled your body with my hands, and I grew up in my house, and I honored your rest, but I was overbearing in my ignorance and being blinded so I tasted my misfortune. The people of Egypt have become their mercy, the people are shrouded, some of them have mercy on me, and some of them do not have mercy on me, and this is the reward for the spoilers, so Joseph cried severely, then he said to her: Do you still find anything in your soul from your love for me? And she said: By God, looking at your face is dearer to me than the world with its exactitude, but he gave me the chest of your whip, and he took it and put it on her chest, and he found the whip in his hand was upset and trembling from the throbbing of her heart. Agnenak, she said to the Messenger: I seek refuge in God for the king to mock me! Did he not want me in the days of my youth, my riches, my money and my condolences? Do he want me today when I am a blind and poor old woman? Then the messenger informed him of her article, and when he rode in the second week, I confronted him and said to her: Did the Messenger not inform you? She said: I have told you that one look at your face is dearer to me than the world and everything in it, so he enjoined it, reformed its affairs and prepared it, and then it was wed to him, so Joseph stood praying and prayed to God, and she stood behind him, and he asked God Almighty to restore her youth, beauty and sight to her, and God returned her youth and beauty And her eyesight until she returned to the best of what she was on the day she came, in honor of Joseph, peace be upon him, when he pardoned the forbidden things of God, so he struck her, and if she was a virgin, then he asked her and she said: O Prophet of God. A subsistence deduction, every day God renews good for them, and she bore him two sons, spores and origin.
12:100
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
👉And he raised his parents he seated them next to him upon the throne👈 and they fell down that is his parents and brothers prostrating before him — a prostration that was actually a bowing down not placing their foreheads down on the ground; this was their standard form of greeting at that time. Then he said ‘O father this is the interpretation of my vision of old. Indeed my Lord has made it true. And indeed He has been gracious to me since He brought me out of the prison — he did not say ‘out of the well’ in a show of magnanimity lest his brothers feel ashamed — and has brought you from the desert after Satan had incited ill feeling made trouble between me and my brethren. Truly my Lord is Subtle in bringing about what He will. Truly He is the Knower of His creatures the Wise in His actions. His father Jacob remained with him for 24 years or for 17 years. The duration of his separation from Joseph had been 18 or 40 or 80 years. When death approached him he charged Joseph to take him and bury him by his father Isaac and so he Joseph himself went and buried him there. He Joseph then returned to Egypt and remained alive for another 23 years.
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@dalmar004
I quoted Qurtubi and Jalalayn abfool, go back and read, Qurtubi affirms that Pharaoh is king, and Joseph became king/Pharaoh, Jalalayn, as per Quran, as you've quoted, affirms that Joseph's parents were on the throne aka co reignship, go and read again abfool, you won't be laughing then!.....What a joke, as a Christian I'm having to explain the difference between Tafsir and Quran! 😂 🤣 🤣
Also, show me where in between and after those verses your Quran mentions Jospeh and Pharaoh/the King interacting with each other!....
Guess what abdool, it doesn't, wonder why, oh yeah, because Jospeh BECAME the Pharaoh/King in your Quran! 😂 🤣 🤣
Prove it!....This is a major error, and you think whether the word Pharaoh or King is used is more relevant than a completely false and fabricated historical event, are you mad, your Al-Lah, Mad-ham-mu, and your incoherent post it note scrapbook document a false fabrication, unless you can prove otherwise!
And if you really want me to start piling on the irrefutable contradictions in your Quran, then carry on acting aboolified and abdoolish!
And you can't even go there in regards to our scripture because you'll automatocally either reject Quran or debunk it as false!
So come on abdool, let's play! 😂 🤣
And if the name fits, then it's your pagan Sabian's name not mine! 😂 🤣
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@dalmar004
Qurtubi affirms the King is Pharaoh!
Qurtubi affirms Joseph becomes the King/Pharaoh!
Quran and Jalalayn affirm that co reignship occurred (Joseph and parents)!
Joseph and his parents never became King/Pharaoh/co reigners!
Prove otherwise or your Mad-ham-mu is busted!
Moses wrote the Torah, Pharaoh was the title at the time of Moses, Moses used the word Pharaoh as everyone understood the word, definition, its synonymity!
And if you're claiming an error in our scripture then your Quran is busted by default thanks to 5:46-47 which based on the claim, to be our scripture, it has to be authentic, and, it's also the entire Bible, including Paul! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
You're in a catch 22 now abdool, and you're still stuck with the historical error, Joseph never became Pharaoh, King, Sultan, whatever title you'd like to use, Joseph never received any of these titles including all that would come with the titles!
Your cult is finished boy! 😂 🤣 🤣
Dispute our scripture, Quran Busted!
Reject your sources, that's on you, not us!
Fail to prove the Quranic claim, Quran busted!
We've got nothing to lose, but you have the risk of your ignorant bubble being burst! 😂 🤣
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@freemanontheland507
Oh, and since Adam, the Quran claims jihad was, is, and will be perpetual, so that's the entirety of the time of humans existence and creation from start until judgement day!
And not forgetting everything in your cult is predestined, so Al-Lah is liable for all the "crimes" and sin of the world past, present, and future!
Not laughing now are you abdool, see where your big ignorant mouth has led you, you've just exposed and annihilated your cult for me! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
The fact you're unaware of who Yahweh is, that in itself has just proven Al-Lah, your pagan Sabian, and your Quran false! Thanks! 😂
You ask what are Yahweh's properties, the answer......
His properties are Divine! Haha, can't say I haven't answered now, I've just explained/answered! 😂 🤣 🤣
And Yahweh is the Name of the Triune God who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, so it doesn't matter whether you're talking about the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit, all are Yahweh (Singular) by Name! 😂 🤣
What are the definitions of the words "Tri" and "Unity"!?! 😂 🤣
Now answer and explain what makes Al-Lah being a single hypostasis divine, you can't appeal to the nature and essence of Al-Lah, because you're whole argument is the number of hypostasis is what makes Al-Lah divine, HOW!?!
How can Al-Lah be tawheed if Al-Lah is one single hypostasis, what exactly is Al-Lah unifying, because to unify dictates that there has to be distinctions between multiples that are "unified" in order to be identified as one/ness, so what is the Al-Lah single hypostasis unifying that isn't Al-Lah the hypostasis!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
Your strawman just backfired and imploded! 😂🤣🤣🤣
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It gets worse, Al-Lah thought Jospeh became Pharaoh and had co reignship with his parents, now can the abdools prove it!?! 🤔 😂
12:55
Al-Qurtubi
There are four issues: The first: God Almighty’s saying: “He said: 'Put me on the treasures of the land.'” Saeed bin Mansour said: I heard Malik bin Anas say: Egypt is the treasury of the land, have I not heard his saying: “He made me on the treasury of the land, so he added to the ground.” {I am Hafiz} when I took over {Elim} to his command. And in the interpretation: I am a recruiter and he is the first to write in the cults. And it was said: “Hafeez” to estimate the sustenance, “knowing” the Sunnis of famine. Goebber said on the authority of Al-Dahhak on the authority of Ibn Abbas who said: The Messenger of God, may God’s prayers and peace be upon him, said: “May God have mercy on my brother Yusef. The king turned and turned it back with his sword, and set a bed of gold for him, crowned with pearls and rubies, and struck on it a suit of staple, and the length of the bed was thirty cubits and a width of ten cubits, he had thirty beds and sixty attached, then he ordered him to come out, and he came out crowned, his face was snow His face was of the purity of the color of his face, so he sat on the bed and the kings came to him, and the king entered his house with his wives, and delegated to him the matter of Egypt, isolating Kotfir from what he had been and making Joseph in his place.
👉Ibn Zaid said: 👈
👉Pharaoh, the king of Egypt, had many treasuries other than food, so he surrendered all his authority to him👈, and Kotfir perished those nights, so 👉King Joseph👈 married Rael, the dear woman, and when he entered her, he said: Is this not better than what you wanted? ٰ She said: O friend, do not blame me. I was a beautiful, soft woman, as you can see, and my friend did not come to women, and you were as God made you from the good, so my soul overcame me. Joseph found her a virgin, and he afflicted her, and she bore him two men: Ephrathim bin Yusef, and Menasha bin Yusef. Wahb ibn Munabbih said: Rather, his marriage was Zelikhah, the dear woman between the two brothers, and that is that Zelikhah her husband and Joseph died in prison, and her money and my blindness were gone, crying at Yusef. In a procession of about a hundred thousand of the elders of his people, it was said to her: If you were exposed to him, perhaps he would help you with something, then it was told to her: Do not do it. His convoy, she rose, called out loudly: Glory be to the one who made kings slaves with their disobedience, and made slaves kings by their obedience, so Joseph said: What is this? So they brought her and she said: I was the one who served you on the breasts of my feet, and I rolled your body with my hands, and I grew up in my house, and I honored your rest, but I was overbearing in my ignorance and being blinded so I tasted my misfortune. The people of Egypt have become their mercy, the people are shrouded, some of them have mercy on me, and some of them do not have mercy on me, and this is the reward for the spoilers, so Joseph cried severely, then he said to her: Do you still find anything in your soul from your love for me? And she said: By God, looking at your face is dearer to me than the world with its exactitude, but he gave me the chest of your whip, and he took it and put it on her chest, and he found the whip in his hand was upset and trembling from the throbbing of her heart. Agnenak, she said to the Messenger: I seek refuge in God for the king to mock me! Did he not want me in the days of my youth, my riches, my money and my condolences? Do he want me today when I am a blind and poor old woman? Then the messenger informed him of her article, and when he rode in the second week, I confronted him and said to her: Did the Messenger not inform you? She said: I have told you that one look at your face is dearer to me than the world and everything in it, so he enjoined it, reformed its affairs and prepared it, and then it was wed to him, so Joseph stood praying and prayed to God, and she stood behind him, and he asked God Almighty to restore her youth, beauty and sight to her, and God returned her youth and beauty And her eyesight until she returned to the best of what she was on the day she came, in honor of Joseph, peace be upon him, when he pardoned the forbidden things of God, so he struck her, and if she was a virgin, then he asked her and she said: O Prophet of God. A subsistence deduction, every day God renews good for them, and she bore him two sons, spores and origin.
12:100
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
👉And he raised his parents he seated them next to him upon the throne👈 and they fell down that is his parents and brothers prostrating before him — a prostration that was actually a bowing down not placing their foreheads down on the ground; this was their standard form of greeting at that time. Then he said ‘O father this is the interpretation of my vision of old. Indeed my Lord has made it true. And indeed He has been gracious to me since He brought me out of the prison — he did not say ‘out of the well’ in a show of magnanimity lest his brothers feel ashamed — and has brought you from the desert after Satan had incited ill feeling made trouble between me and my brethren. Truly my Lord is Subtle in bringing about what He will. Truly He is the Knower of His creatures the Wise in His actions. His father Jacob remained with him for 24 years or for 17 years. The duration of his separation from Joseph had been 18 or 40 or 80 years. When death approached him he charged Joseph to take him and bury him by his father Isaac and so he Joseph himself went and buried him there. He Joseph then returned to Egypt and remained alive for another 23 years.
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@moosa86
Fun fact:
Yahweh is the Name of God, and it doesn't mean Lord, and isn't defined by the definitions provided, WHO Yahweh is, can only be understood as the initial definition (One who has power & authority)!
A further fun fact:
Quran uses the word Lord in reference to Al-Lah, so Al-Lah based on this fallacious logic, now must be a mere man not a divine being!
😂 🤣 🤣
And Jesus spoke Galilean Aramaic, not Eastern Syriac Aramaic, and Jesus also understood and spoke Hebrew, Latin, and Koine Greek which was the Lingua Franca at the time!
And.....
John 13:12-14
When Jesus had washed their feet and put on His outer garments, He reclined with them again and asked, “Do you know what I have done for you?
👉You call Me👈 Teacher
👉and Lord (Κύριος) ,
👉and rightly so, because I am👈.
👉So if I, your Lord (Κύριος)👈
and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet.
Philo was more fluent in Greek than in Hebrew and read the Jewish Scriptures chiefly from the Septuagint,
Philo, consistently uses Κύριος as a designation for God!
And let's not forget......
John 5:16-18
👉Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath👈, the Jews began to persecute Him. But Jesus answered them, 👉“To this very day 👉My Father👈 is at His work, and I too am working.”
👉Because of this👈, 👉the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him👈.
👉Not only👈was He breaking the Sabbath, 👉but
👉He was even calling God His own Father👈,
👉making Himself👈
👉equal with God.👈
Jesus is God! God is Triune!
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@generaljg4373
Haha! You want to talk about fruits, go read Jeremiah 3:1-2, our God addresses the fruits of your cult, our God Himself exposes your big hairy pogo shin foot, Mad-ham-mu, and your incoherent post it note scrapbook!
You all mock and hold your own Al-Lah in contempt (6:108)!
As of I'd ever accept a dutty thing like your Da'if fickle Lah, who contradicts itself constantly, it's part of your Lahs nature, and yes I mean Lahs plural, you've got multiple shirk Lahs! You don't even know what Lahs are, all you've got is the number one, you don't even know the name of your Lah be Ie you claim Lah isn't a name, even though 1:1 affirms it's a name, and if not, of just the title, then what's the name, its clearly of vital importance! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@zakariaabdullah7270
Ask and ye shall receive!.....
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that there came a few desert Arabs to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and said:
Do you kiss your children? He said: Yes. Thereupon they said: By Allah but we do not kiss our children. Thereupon Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: Then what can I do if Allah has deprived you of mercy? Ibn Numair said: (We has deprived) your heart of mercy.
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، وَأَبُو كُرَيْبٍ قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو أُسَامَةَ، وَابْنُ، نُمَيْرٍ عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ قَدِمَ نَاسٌ مِنَ الأَعْرَابِ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالُوا أَتُقَبِّلُونَ صِبْيَانَكُمْ فَقَالُوا نَعَمْ . فَقَالُوا لَكِنَّا وَاللَّهِ مَا نُقَبِّلُ . فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَأَمْلِكُ إِنْ كَانَ اللَّهُ نَزَعَ مِنْكُمُ الرَّحْمَةَ " . وَقَالَ ابْنُ نُمَيْرٍ " مِنْ قَلْبِكَ الرَّحْمَةَ " ."
Sahih Muslim 2317
In-book : Book 43, Hadith 85
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 30, Hadith 5735 (deprecated)
Aishah (May Allah bepleased with her) reported:
Some bedouins came to Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) and asked: "Do you kiss your children?" He said, "Yes". They then said: "By Allah, we do not kiss them." The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "I cannot help you if Allah has snatched kindness from your hearts".
وعن عائشة رضي الله عنها قالت: قدم ناس من الأعراب على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، فقالوا : أتقبلون صبيانكم؟ فقال: نعم" قالوا: لكنا والله ما نقبل ! فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : "أو أملك إن كان الله نزع من قلوبكم الرحمة؟" ((متفق عليه)) ."
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Riyad us Saliheen
Arabic/English book : Book 1, Hadith 226
We all know where Hassan used to be kissed, and Aisha was a child!
And the bedouins are disputing it!
As the saying goes....
"be careful what you wish for, you mught just get it!". 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Oh, and Mark 5:42 proves that even at the age of 12 a female is still a child!.....That alone proves that Aisha was a child, now show us where the Bible says to marry females at Aisha's age!
Mark 5:42
Immediately 👉the girl👈 got up and began to walk around. 👉She was twelve years old👈, and at once they were utterly astounded.
Aisha was literally half this girls age abdool!
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@zakariaabdullah7270
Your Mad-ham-mu claimed we're Nasara, want to prove that we're all from Nazareth, the Arab Christians weren't, we're not, so, try proving that!
Oh, unless you want to go for the heretical Nasara who rejected the Gospels and Jesus as the Son of God, but accepted only the Torah and the virgin birth, which contradicts the Quranic narrative,
So, which is it!?!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@zakariaabdullah7270
Well that's interesting considering ibn kathir 3:56 affirms our scripture, Christianity, and even our early Church fathers as being on the true correct path for up to 300 years, and 7th century even 5:46-47 affirms in its claims that the injil is meant to be our scripture, that our scripture is authentic, so much so we're to judge by it as an authority, and that the injil is the entire Bible including Paul!
Furthermore, the injil, being sent with Isa, is present at the time of Moses in 7:155-157!.....
Wan to now prove that an injil existed at that time, and that Jesus, if meant to be Isa, was incarnate at the time of Moses!....
Or how about the copy Waraqa was translating from, or Waraqa's translation from the 7th century!....
You're the one making the claim, burden of proof is on you now!....
And can you provide the verse where it states Al-Lah is tawheed!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
Can you provide the verse where it mentions Yasue Al-Masih!?!
Can you provide the verse where it says Christian!?!
Can you provide the Torah verse where it states explicitly the name Ahmad!?!
You really don't want to play this game with me abdool, no matter where you try and run to on your script, heard it, exposed, or, refuted, it, answered it!
Pity for you lot that none of you lot can do the same, none of you can even engage with Christian Theology with our scripture to build any sort of case against it, all you've got are fallacies upon fallacies, which exposes the fear and desperation you all suffer with because your cult is such an embarrasing and shameful shambles of a cult, it's indefensible, that's why you all try to dive answering a single question, especially when your opponent clearly knows what they're talking about, know your cult better than you! 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@zakariaabdullah7270
Watch how quick I wipe that pagan smile off of your face! 😂
3:56
Tafseer of the Great Qur’an / Ibn Katheer (d. 774 AH) is classified and verified
👉Al-Lah recounted their articles in the Qur’an, and he responded to each group, so they continued to do so close to
👉three hundred years👈,
then a king of the Greek kings called Constantine emerged for them, he entered the religion of Christianity, a trick was said to corrupt him, because he was a philosopher, and it was said that he was ignorant. He changed the religion of Christ for them and perverted it, added to it and decreased it, and laid down laws for him, and the loyal secretariat which is a low (vile) betrayal, and pork was permissible in his time, and they prayed for him to the east, and they drew for him churches, temples and hermatiges, and increased their fasting ten days for a sin they claim he committed. And the religion of Christ became the religion of Constantine, except that he built for them more than twelve thousand temples, churches, hermitages, and courtyards, and he built the city attributed to him, and the royal sect of them followed him,
تفسير تفسير القرآن العظيم/ ابن كثير (ت 774 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
وقد حكى الله مقالاتهم في القرآن، ورد على كل فريق، فاستمروا على ذلك قريباً من ثلثمائة سنة، ثم نبغ لهم ملك من ملوك اليونان يقال له قسطنطين، فدخل في دين النصرانية، قيل حيلة ليفسده، فإنه كان فيلسوفاً، وقيل جهلاً منه، إلا أنه بدل لهم دين المسيح وحرفه، وزاد فيه ونقص منه، ووضعت له القوانين، والأمانة الكبرى التي هي الخيانة الحقيرة، وأحل في زمانه لحم الخنزير، وصلوا له إلى المشرق، وصوروا له الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع، وزادوا في صيامهم عشرة أيام من أجل ذنب ارتكبه فيما يزعمون، وصار دين المسيح دين قسطنطين إلا أنه بنى لهم من الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع والديارات ما يزيد على اثني عشر ألف معبد، وبنى المدينة المنسوبة إليه، واتبعه الطائفة الملكية منهم،
The first complete copies of single New Testament books appear around 200CE.
If we're to go by Ibn Kathir's claim, then the manuscripts that are dated during/around the time of Constantine I are 1 & 2 Timothy, 1 & 2 Peter, 2 & 3 John, and Jude.
Even if we were to ignore these parts of the NT, it wouldn't change the doctrine, belief, faith, that Jesus is the Son of God, came in the flesh, was Crucified for our sins, resurrected on the 3rd day, and declared He is Yahweh, the Son of Yahweh (God)!....As supported by early church fathers, whose writings too, pre date Constantine I!
Constantine I converted to Christianity on his deathbed in 337CE!
The legalisation of Christianity, sanctioning of building churches, the start of the Ecumenical Councils, all happened before his conversion!
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@zakariaabdullah7270
You've just agreed with me abdool, if our scripture, in 7th century, we're to judge by it, our scripture pre dates 7th century, therefore it's our scripture we have today, which we had during, which we had before, the 7th century!
And dont try and strawman me you little ignoramus, I never said its the NT, what, you think the entire Bible is now the NT, I said "INJIL IS THE ENTIRE BIBLE ONCLUDING PAUL"
And 5:46 Proves it because it states that this injil contains the Torah, not a bit, not part, THE TORAH, as in the entire Torah,
I challenge you to, show me the Torah in the entire NT, nay Gospel!...
I don't even think you know what the Torah is, that's why you can't tell us where ahmad is meant to be mentioned! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@zakariaabdullah7270
Wrong! The canonisation of our scripture pre dates 7th century, so if you're claiming that these Nasara had their own injil, then they're not us, and their scripture is rejected by us then as it is today, they'd be heretics,
But you all claim they're us, and that the injil is our scripture, so your Taqiyya has now created a problematic for you paradox!
You're in a catch 22, if not our scripture, if they're heretics, they're not us and that's not our scripture!
If meant to be us, our scripture, the name we're called is an error!
If us and our scripture, the it, they, and Isa by default are from the wrong time period thanks to 7:155-157, which I'm waiting for your response, but I've checked everything, I'm right any discrepancy on your part I will expose and refute!
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@B N
Hahaha! Watch how your cherry picked reference destroys your fallacy and cult! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣.....
John 16:13-15
However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come.
👉He will glorify Me👈 by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you.
👉Everything that belongs to the Father is Mine👈. That is why I said that the Spirit will take from what is Mine and disclose it to you.
Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, Al-Lah isn't father to anyone or thing, but using your logic....
Are you now claiming that your Mad-ham-mu Glorified Jesus Christ as Al-Lah!?!😂🤣🤣🤣
And are you claiming that everything that belongs to Al-Lah belongs to Jesus Christ!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
You've also affirmed Jesus fulfilled the Law, so no need for Mad-ham-mu, you've just made Mad-ham-mu defunct! 😂 🤣 🤣
Your Mad-ham-mu worshipped the black stone, Almakkah's Yemeni corner, eclipses, and a dash of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Al-Manat for good pagan polytheist measure! 😂 🤣
Quran affirms you can eat pork! 😂
Quran affirms alcohol is good! 😂
Hijab came from Umar! 😂
Mad-ham-mu wasn't circumcised! 😂
This alone exposes and destroys all your other cherry picked references by default! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@rizall3061
And seen as you credit your commentators/scholars aka Tafsirs, how about the fact that both ibn Kathir and Tabari state that the lion sneezed out kittens, are you seriously going to try and claim that as fact!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
And ibn Kathir affirmed that not only is Christianity true, but our scripture is authentic, while busting your Al-Lah, Quran, pagan Sabian, cult, and himself in the process! 😂 🤣 🤣
Or how about the fact that Tabari affirms that the hour was attached to Muhammad's life/death and should've happened shortly after your pagan Sabian popped his sandals, are you going to show me Al-Lah's shin, can you tell me if we're in jannah or hellfire!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
And dont even try appealing to DCCI as my sources or that I'm blindly following anyone, I've done and I do my own research, I have hundreds nearing thousands of cultlamic sources, I'm the wrong Christian to try and play games with abdool!
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Abortion is a contributory factor to the mess the UK is in right now (immigration, legal and illegal)!
Think about how many abortions have taken place over the last 40+ years, how many children that would've grown up to be adult men/women, that would've boosted the population, would've worked, and from the corrupt government's position, paid taxes, contributed to maintaining and sustain not only the economy, but more importantly, British/English traditions and values,
How many could've followed Christ and reject Liberal progressive nonsense,
In addition all we'd have needed to do was focus on legal immigration prioritising those who can truly integrate into our society (Christians from across the world, ideologies that are intergrateable), we wouldn't have pagan Sabian Islamic cult terrorism on our streets, we wouldn't have mass Islamic migration into the UK, because real Muslims, those who truly follow Islam, can't and won't ever be able to integrate, they can't because the cult ideology is against any and all who aren't ignorant/foolish enough to accept such false, supremacist, racist, barbaric, peadophilic, deplorable, abhorrent, nonsense!
The only abortion that could ever have benefitted mankind would've been the abortion of muck-ham-mad!
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@godsaveskyrieeleison5859
Actually I think it's you who needs to refrain from fallacious essays seen as nothing that you've stated in response actually deals with let alone offers any sort of refutation to my initial response!
You presume and assume you have some sort of knowledge and insight into what I know, you've then created a strawman argument and tried to pass it off as my discrepancy while appealing to ad hominems!
You've even affirmed that I'm correct in regards to your attempted divisive fallacy being paradoxical, you're trying to only dispute the oxymoron element of your fallaciousness!
Well, seen as you haven't actually offered anything to dispute what I've proven to be oxymoronic by quoting your words, how about you learn next time to actually provide a valid response instead of limp strawmen and ad hominems!
You stated and I quote....
"never is an act of God seperated or divided or divisible in any way"
"Jesus is Fully Man and Fully God"
Now, if Jesus is Fully God, and God is not separable, dividable, divisible,
But to dispute Jesus having the full knowledge as God is a self contradicting statement/claim, logic aka an oxymoron!
Oxymoron n definition - Cambridge University:
two words or phrases used together that have, or seem to have, opposite meanings
Both quoted words/phrases are in one single comment to dispute and argue one single point, which you affirm (your paradigm)....
Your entire statement contains a paradox which you've admitted, and an oxymoron based on your overall entire discrepancy/argument/point!
An oxymoron is just a statement that pairs two opposing concepts. It refers to a statement or figure of speech that contradicts itself!
I think it's you who needs to run along and educate oneself, that way you won't embarrass yourself like you just have here!
Review your conduct and repent!
May the Father and Son through the Holy Spirit show you the errors of your condict and ways here!
I pray God blesses you! 🙏
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@godsaveskyrieeleison5859
You referred to Orthodoxy & Patristics, well,
Amazing how everything I've stated is in total agreement with Orthodoxy & Patristics and you've been opposing me therefore opposing Orthodoxy and Patristics!
Below is a supplement of patristic quotes...
- "If anyone says that the one Jesus Christ, true Son of God and true Son of Man, was ignorant of future things, or of the day of the last judgment ... let him be anathema." — Pope Vigilius, Against Nestorians, May 14, 553
- "If anyone does not say that the Son of God is true God just as [His] Father is true God [and] He is all-powerful and omniscient and equal to the Father, he is a heretic." — Council of Rome, Tome of Pope Damasus, Canon 12 (A.D. 382)
- “These things being so, come let us now examine into 'But of that day and that hour knows no man, neither the Angels of God, nor the Son ;'[Mark 13:32] for being in great ignorance as regards these words, and being stupefied about them, they think they have in them an important argument for their heresy.
But I, when the heretics allege it and prepare themselves with it, see in them the giants again fighting against God.
For the Lord of heaven and earth, by whom all things were made, has to litigate before them about day and hour; and the Word who knows all things is accused by them of ignorance about a day; and the Son who knows the Father is said to be ignorant of an hour of a day; now what can be spoken more contrary to sense, or what madness can be likened to this?
Through the Word all things have been made, times and seasons and night and day and the whole creation; and is the Framer of all said to be ignorant of His work?
👉And the very context of the lection shows that the Son of God knows that hour and that day👈, though the Arians fall headlong in their ignorance. For after saying, 'nor the Son,' He relates to the disciples what precedes the day, saying, 'This and that shall be, and then the end.' But He who speaks of what precedes the day, knows certainly the day also, which shall be manifested subsequently to the things foretold.
👉But if He had not known the hour, He had not signified the events before it, as not knowing when it should be👈.
And as any one, who, by way of pointing out a house or city to those who were ignorant of it, gave an account of what comes before the house or city, and having described all, said, 'Then immediately comes the city or the house,' would know of course where the house or the city was (for had he not known, he had not described what comes before lest from ignorance he should throw his hearers far out of the way, or in speaking he should unawares go beyond the object), 👉so the Lord saying what precedes that day and that hour, knows exactly, nor is ignorant, when the hour and the day are at hand👈….👉Now why it was that, though He knew, He did not tell His disciples plainly at that time, no one may be curious where He has been silent; for 'Who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been His counsellor [Romans 11:34]?' but why, though He knew, He said, 'no, not the Son knows,' this I think none of the faithful is ignorant, viz. that 👉He made this as those other declarations as man by reason of the flesh👈👈.
👉For this as before is not the Word's deficiency, but of that human nature whose property it is to be ignorant....👈” — St Athanasius, Discourse 3 Against the Arians, Chapter 28
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There's more!...
- 👉"Certainly when He says in the Gospel concerning Himself in His human character, 'Father, the hour is come, glorify Your Son ,'[John 17:1] it is plain that He knows also the hour of the end of all things, as the Word, though as man He is ignorant of it, for ignorance is proper to man, and especially ignorance of these things👈.
Moreover this is proper to the Savior's love of man; for since He was made man, He is not ashamed, because of the flesh which is ignorant , 👉to say 'I know not,' that He may show that knowing as God, He is but ignorant according to the flesh👈.
👉And therefore He said not, 'no, not the Son of God knows,' lest the Godhead should seem ignorant, but simply, 'no, not the Son,'👈[Mark 13:32] that the ignorance might be the Son's as born from among men." - St Athanasius, Discourse 3 Against the Arians, Chapter 43
- "👉No man save Him who for our salvation has designed to put on flesh has full knowledge👈 and a complete grasp of the truth." - St Jerome, Letter to Pope Damacus in reply to Genesis 27:23
- "Their tenth objection is the objection, and the statement that of the last 'day and hour knows no man, not even the Son Himself, but the Father.' [Mark 13:32] And yet how can Wisdom be ignorant of anything? ...👉How then can you say that all things before that hour He knows accurately, and all things that are to happen about the time of the end, but the hour itself He is ignorant👈?
👉For such a thing would be like a riddle, as if one were to say that he knew accurately all that was in front of the wall, but did not know the wall itself; or that, knowing the end of the day, he did not the beginning of night--where knowledge of the one neccessarily brings in the other👈.
Thus everyone must see 👉He knows as God👈, and knows not as man,--if one may separate visible from that which discerned by thought alone." - St Gregory Nazianzen, On the Holy Spirit, Chapter 30:15
- “For He, as the Only-begotten Son of the Father, and the Word, both was and is omnipotent, and there is nothing that is not easy to Him.” — St Cyril of Jerusalem Homilies On Luke, 47
- "We can now understand why He said that He knew not the day. If we believe Him to have been really ignorant, we contradict the Apostle, who says, "👉In Whom are all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge hidden" [Colossians 2:3]👈.
👉There is knowledge which is hidden in Him👈, and because it has to be hidden, it must sometimes for this purpose be professed as ignorance, for once declared, it will no longer be secret.
In order, therefore, that the knowledge may remain hidden, He declares that He does not know. But if He does not know, in order that the knowledge may remain hidden, this ignorance is not due to His nature, which is omniscient, for He is ignorant solely in order that it may be hidden. Nor is it hard to see why the knowledge of the day is hidden." — St Hilary of Poiters, On the Trinity Book IX Chapter 67
- “The Son is ignorant, then, of nothing which the Father knows, nor does it follow because the Father alone knows, that the Son does not know. Father and Son abide in unity of nature, and the ignorance of the Son belongs to the divine Plan of silence, seeing that 👉in Him are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge👈. 👉This the Lord Himself testified, when He answered the question of the Apostles concerning the times, “It is not yours to know times or moments, which the Father has set within His own authority” [Acts 1:7]👈. The knowledge is denied them, and not only that, but the anxiety to learn is forbidden, because 👉it is not theirs to know these times👈. Yet now that He is risen, they ask again, though their question on the former occasion had been met with the reply, that not even the Son knew. They cannot possibly have understood literally that the Son did not know, for they ask Him again as though He did know. They perceived in the mystery of His ignorance a divine Plan of silence, and now, 👉after His resurrection, they renew the question, thinking that the time has come to speak👈.
👉And the Son no longer denies that He knows, but tells them that it is not theirs to know, because the Father has set it within His own authority👈.
If then, the Apostles attributed it to the divine Plan, and not to weakness, that the Son did not know the day, shall we say that the Son knew not the day for the simple reason that He was not God? Remember, 👉God the Father set the day within His authority, that it might not come to the knowledge of man👈, and 👉the Son, when asked before, replied that He did not know, but now, no longer denying His knowledge, replies that it is theirs not to know👈, 👉for the Father has set the times not in His own knowledge, but in His own authority👈.
The day and the moment are included in the word 'times': can it be, then, that He, Who was to restore Israel to its kingdom, did not Himself know the day and the moment of that restoration? He instructs us to see an evidence of His birth in this exclusive prerogative of the Father, yet 👉He does not deny that He knows: and while He proclaims that the possession of this knowledge is withheld from ourselves, He asserts that it belongs to the mystery of the Father's authority.👈
👉We must not therefore think, because He said He did not know the day and the moment, that the Son did not know👈. As man He wept, and slept, and sorrowed, but God is incapable of tears, or fear, or sleep.
According to the weakness of His flesh He shed tears, slept, hungered, thirsted, was weary, and feared, yet without impairing the reality of His Only-begotten nature; 👉equally so must we refer to His human nature, the words that He knew not the day or the hour👈 [Mark 13:32].” — St Hilary of Poiters, On the Trinity, Book IX Chapter 74
- "Those, then, who say that He is a servant divide the one Christ into two, just as Nestorius did. But 👉we declare Him to be Master and Lord of all creation, the one Christ, at once God and man, and all-knowing👈.
👉'For in Him are all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge👈, the hidden treasures'" [Col 2:3]. — St John of Damascus, An Exposition of the Orthodox Faith, Book III Chapter 21
- "Concerning that which has been written: That 'neither the Son, nor the angels know the day and the hour' [cf. Mark 13:32, Matt 24:36], indeed, your holiness has perceived rightly, that since it most certainly should be referred not to the same Son according to that which is the head, but according to His body which we are.... He [Augustine] also says ... that this can be understood of the same Son, because the omnipotent God sometimes speaks in a human way, as he said to Abraham: 'Now I know that thou fearest God' [Gen. 22:12], not because God then knew that He was feared, but because at that time He caused Abraham to know that he feared God.
For, just as we say a day is happy not because the day itself is happy, but because it makes us happy, so the omnipotent Son says He does not know the day which He causes not to be known, not because He himself is ignorant of it, but because He does not permit it to be known at all. 👉Thus also the Father alone is said to know, because the Son (being) consubstantial with Him, on account of His nature, by which He is above the angels, has knowledge of that, of which the angels are unaware👈.
Thus, also, this can be the more precisely understood because the Only-begotten having been incarnate, and made perfect man for us, 👉in His divine nature indeed did know the day and the hour of judgment👈, but nevertheless He did not know this from His human nature. Therefore, that which in (nature) itself He knew, He did not know from that very (nature), because God-made-man knew the day and hour of the judgment through the power of His Godhead.... Thus,
👉the knowledge which He did not have on account of the nature of His humanity👈, by reason of which, like the angels, He was a creature this He denied that He, like the angels, who are creatures, had.
👉Therefore (as) God and man He knows the day and the hour of judgment👈; but on this account, because God is man. But the fact is certainly manifest that whoever is not a Nestorian, can in no wise be an Agnoeta.
👉For with what purpose can he, who confesses that the Wisdom itself of God is incarnate say that there is anything which the Wisdom of God does not know👈?
It is written: 'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.... All things were made by Him' [John 1:1, 3]. 👉If 'all', without doubt also the day of judgment and the hour. Who, therefore, is so foolish as to presume to assert that the Word of the Father made that which He does not know👈?
It is written also: 👉'Jesus knowing, that the Father gave Him all things into his hands' [John 13:3]. If all things, surely both the day of judgment and the hour. Who, therefore, is so stupid as to say that the Son has received in His hands that of which He is unaware👈?" — St Gregory the Great, Letter to Patriarch Eulogius of Alexandria
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@alonzoharris6730
That's not polytheism you doughnut!
Polytheists believe that each mind/hypostasis has an independent divine nature and esscence in its own divine nature and esscence right, with independant divine natures and esscences, they aren't and can't be unified, because if they're divine nature and esscence are unified then that dictates and creates a paradoxical oxymoron!
Go on, show me where in polytheistic pantheons the multiple gods have 1 and the same divine nature and esscence, show me where Shiva has the same divine nature and esscence as Ganesh, show me where Zeus has the same divine nature and esscence as Aries, show me where Mars has the same divine nature and esscence as Jupiter!
It's now clear and evident that you think divine esscence and nature is simply just being a god!
You've just exposed and embarrassed yourself in front of everyone, you don't have any sort of basic knowledge or clue regarding Divinity let alone anything else! 😂 🤣 🤣
And you've affirmed that what makes Al-Lah 1 is being a single hypostasis, but that's comparing Al-Lah to creation, which contradicts Quran, don't you say that Al-Lah is incomparable to creation,
Also, because being a single hypostasis is what makes Al-Lah divine, that dictates we're all Al-Lahs! 😂 🤣 🤣
your hypocrisy is laid bare for all to now see! 😂 🤣 🤣
And if Al-Lah is a single hypostasis, and that hypostasis is claimed to be divine, then by default, each of the 99 attributes are divine in their own independant rights, because you have a divine hypostasis and 99 divine attributes being unified aka assimilated aka tawheed, Into that single hypostasis, so you have 100 Al-Lahs, then there's Isa the literal word of Al-Lah (4:171), so that's now 101 Al-Lahs, then there's Muhammad as Al-Lah (48:9), so that's 102 Al-Lahs, and Al-Lah is 3 created disconnected creations, and all have their own minds, so that's 105 Al-Lahs!
And finally, your Al-Lahs pray to and receive inheritance from another, or from one another (28:58 & 33:56)!
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@alonzoharris6730
I already posted the exposure and refutation of your fallacy to Ruben Alijohn 3 hrs ago, and your fallacy dictates now that you have 3-4 created and disconnected Al-Lah's,
Our God being Triune (Hypostacially unified by Divine Nature & Essence) dictates that the number of minds is irrelevant, and refutes your attempt to change the goalposts to incorporate the additional "Wills" & "3 selfs" fallacies!
So that means, regardless of whether I say God has 3 minds, it only exposes your fallacies, because the claim holds 0 relevance to what the Trinity is! 😂 🤣
But your fallacies do dictate that you have now 3-4 Al-Lah's (15:58, 59, 60, & 66), that are created, hypostatically disconnected, with 3-4 minds, 3-4 self wills, so now your fallacies have created a fallacious logical fallacy against you! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Now how about you explain how in 43:4 the eternal tablets are the mother of your Quran, this is another set of 3 minds, because there's Al-Lah, then the pen, and the tablets, and all 3 have their own independant minds, wills, and selfs!?!
And if the tablets are a mother, then by default, Al-Lah has to be the father, is the Quran Al-Lah's son/daughter!?!
🤔 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
You do realise this makes Al-Lah's mouth equivalent to a man's reproductive organ! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@mikehike3735
You're busted fallacious abdool!
1. We don't accept any Jewish exegesis, you as an abdool have yo accept your Tafsir scholars!
2. In the midrashic telling, Rebekah was born at the same time that Isaac, who was then twenty-six years old, was bound on the altar (Seder Olam Rabbah 1). When God was revealed to Abraham at Mount Moriah and commanded him not to sacrifice his son, He also disclosed to him, by the spirit of divine inspiration, that Isaac’s bride had already been born (Gen. Rabbah 57:1). This exposition shows that the divine plan is woven far from men’s eyes. When Abraham thought that his only son and heir was about to die, God had brought his future wife into the world, and the people of Israel would be built from their offspring.
The Torah states (Gen. 25:21) that “Isaac pleaded with the Lord on behalf of his wife, because she was barren.”
Abdool, a 3 year old cannot be defined or identified as barren, she wouldn't have reached menstruation aka puberty at such a young age!
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3. There are various midrashic traditions for Rebekah’s age when she was married to Isaac.
And to appeal to Jewish exegesis and apply them to Christians is to reject your Quran that claims Nasara, who can't be us, are to stand by the covenant of Isa and the injil!
You're disputing your own Al-Lah and Quran now! 😂 🤣
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@mikehike3735
And dont think I've finished exposing you, the same Jews you're appealing to, also reject Jesus as the Messiah, so that's your Isa and Muhammad both rejected!
Still want to put your faith and trust in their abilities to exegete!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
You're so warped that you think by trying to discredit Jesus Christ and our scripture, somehow, we'd reject all and then think we'd accept Islam which then demands we accept the Bible and Jesus under Islamic ignorance and ultracrepidarianism, what an absolute joke!......
Think it through, if you discredit Christ and scripture, we would only reject Islam and your pagan Sabian, and his sock puppet pagan moon demon all the more, so your strategy and tactics are flawed, and can only result in the polar opposite to that which you're hoping and trying to achieve!
You're in a self inflicted catch 22!
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@Vandra Risqi
Being a single hypostasis doesn't make God God, if so, we're all gods!
To dispute our 1 Triune God as being anything but 1 is an oxymoron!
And seen as you cherry picked John, here, educate yourself!....
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him.
But Jesus answered them,
“To this very day 👉My Father👈 is at His work, and I too am working.”
👉Because of this👈,
👉the Jews tried all the harder to kill
Him👈.
Not only was He breaking the Sabbath,
but
👉He was even calling God His own
Father👈,
👉making Himself equal with
God.👈
John 13:12-14
When Jesus had washed their feet and put on His outer garments, He reclined with them again and asked, “Do you know what I have done for you?
👉You call Me👈 Teacher
👉and Lord (Κύριος)👈,
👉and rightly so, because I am👈.
👉So if I, your Lord (Κύριος)👈 and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet.
Philo was more fluent in Greek than in Hebrew and read the Jewish Scriptures chiefly from the Septuagint,
Philo, consistently uses Κύριος as a designation for God!
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micah john
You even exposed and busted yourself in regards to Africa and Israelites!....
You stated and affirmed that Israel isn't Africa, so Africans, black people, can't be Israelites!
You said....
"The name Africa was given to this continent by the ancient Romans and Greeks. However, Alkebulan was not the only name used for the continent. There were many others used throughout history by the people living there, including Corphye, Ortigia, Libya, and Ethiopia. However, Alkebulan is the most common one."
Notice how you never once mentioned or provided a single reference to Africa being identified as Israel! 😂 🤣
You also said....
"Israel is situated along the border between the African Tectonic Plate and Arabian tectonic plate"
So Israel is between the borders of the African and Arabian tectonic plates, but its not Africa or Arabia, so Israelites aren't black/Africans!
You've just exposed and busted your own fallacy! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
I never said that, no Christian has ever claimed that, you've just proven that you don't know or understand what the Trinity is! 😂 🤣
You've just proven that you think the number of hypostasis is relevant and a necessity in order for God to be God, so you think just because Al-Lah is a single hypostasis, that makes Al-Lah a god, which by default dictates that we're all gods because we're all a single hypostasis!
See the mess you've created for yourself! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Now tell me, if Al-Lah is a single hypostasis, then how do you unify a single hypostasis, what are you unifying it with if it's the only one, or are you unifying the hypostasis with something else, if so, is the something else also eternal, divine, if so, then that's shirk!?!!! 😂 🤣
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@alidawahs9yroldwedsa40yrol2
Haha, I think that's why he hates me so much, he can't troll when I'm on his case because he just ends up making a mockery of himself, his cult, and his Al-Lah/pagan Sabian fraud!
The one he can't handle at the moment is the fact that 1:1 Al-Lah affirms Al-Lah is a name not a title, so Al-Lah can't be Yahweh, and Bukhari makes it concrete in multiple Hadiths, and it's in most of the main 6 Hadith books....
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Allah has ninety-nine Names, one-hundred less one; and he who memorized them all by heart will enter Paradise." To count something means to know it by heart.
Sahih al-Bukhari 7392
In-book: Book 97, Hadith 21
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 93, Hadith 489 (deprecated)
The second, is a new issue I'm raising, where are the missing Quran/Surahs from Muhammad's birth - 40, Quran claims Al-Lah/he were revealing the Quran from his birth until death, and this obliterates the contradicting Hadiths regarding the cave Hira incident/surah 96, but also exposes the contradiction regarding Quran protection and preservation, there's 40yrs worth if Quran missing! Where is this chunk of the Quran now, did the goat eat the entire first 40yrs worth of Quran!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
What a feeble little strawman,
The point ibn fibbin ketchup Spillin Footnote made was that all the Prophets are Messiahs,
Show me the verse in Quran where it states each prophet is A Messiah!
Prove they were all anointed, especially your pagan Sabian, which is the main point ibn fibbin ketchup Spillin footnote is tried to fabricate!
Show me where your pagan Sabian is called Messiah!
Even your fellow ignorant abdool's reject Cyrus as a prophet let alone a Messiah, and certainly not THE Messiah, some think he was Dhul-Qarnayn, others claim a king of Yemen, and the some say Alexander the Great, which proves you don't have a clue who the people are in the Quran, you just attach these unknown individuals to other well known historical figures in order to try squaring a circle!
😂 🤣 🤣
Show me where Isa was anointed!
What did Isa do exactly to earn the title Messiah!?!
Isa didn't even bring a relevant message to anyone, go on, tell us, what was Isa's message, what was the point of the injil he was carrying around with him!?!
Your Isa is a failure! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
Al-Lah admits Al-Lah isn't Yahweh (9:29 & 29:46), Al-Lah is a name not a title!
Isa is Esau the Levite nephew of Moses from the time of Moses (7:155-157 & 19:28), there's no mention of Yasue Al-Masih!
So Al-Lah can't be Yahweh, Isa isn't Jesus Christ (wrong Name, tribe, time period), so the injil isn't our scripture, never was, never will be!
That's your cult busted in its entirety!
Who cares now whether you understand our God, our scripture or not,
You can tell us Al-Lah is one single hypostasis all you like, you can claim Muhammad to be a prophet of Al-Lah, great, that all affirms and proves Al-Lah and Muhammad are exposed as contradictory hypocrite frauds if claiming to have anything to do with our God, our scripture, our Prophets/Apostles, because the admission in the Quran is that they aren't, that's called, and defined as, a contradiction, it's paradoxical, and your Quran is full of them!.....
4:82 is triggered constantly and consistently! 😂 🤣
Abdrool, get the main dilemma and point into your little camelade pickled brain......
If Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, as proven by Al-Lah's own admission, in your Quran, which came from your pagan Sabian, then that single statement/declaration exposes and proves your entire cult, from Al-Lah, to your pagan Sabian, to your Quran, and every single Abdrool, and additional source, are all in error and/or liars, frauds!
Your entire cult is proven to be built on Taqiyya and Bid'ah, fabrications!...
To dispute this is to reject your own sources, to claim anything but, is to be guilty of Taqiyya and Bid'ah, based on your own cults doctrines/Theology, and to accept it is to accept what is proven to be nothing but fabricated Taqiyya Bid'ah!
Oh, and Al-Lah can't be both tawheed and a single hypostasis!...
If so then you have multiple Al-Lahs because you have Al-Lah the hypostasis and Al-Lahs the divinities aka attributes!
You also worship Muhammad alongside Al-Lah (48:9, Tashahud and Durood, always claim blasphemy), and by extension you include Fatima, and you can't even tell me if Aisha is on the list too, so you've got more gods than the Hindus, but just going with the claim that blasphemy can apply to Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, and Fatima, dictates it's you who worships at least 3 gods! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Abdrool, you can't defend a lie, because a lie is always exposed in the end!
Go on, try and prove me wrong, try and educate me, I'm waiting and listening!!! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
This fallacy exposes and proves that your first fallacy is fallacious! 😂 🤣
And so what, the orthodox affirm that Jesus is the eternally begotten Son, your fallacy is, that you are trying to claim that the Father is eternally begetting the Son, that's not what orthodox Christians claim or believe! 😂 🤣
This is the same as the dilemma Jake the fake Taqiyyaphysician exposed via his ignirance.....
Is this to try and square the eternally creating circle dilemma you have with your Al-Lah!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
So, because the claim to this being an "eternal act" being exposed as fallacious, the question that follows is fallacious!....
Now answer my question, you can't escape the fact your Al-Lah has shot Al-Lah & your pagan Sabian in the foot regarding 9:29!.....
Either Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, Quran are in error claiming affiliation with our God, our scripture, us and the Jews, or 9:29 is an error, because you can't claim to be the same God whilst rejecting the God! 😂 🤣
Think about it, could a Hindu come to you and say Al-Lah is Shiva, and accept, even publicly declare that you believe, and then say that they're going to now fight you until you believe in Shiva!?!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
I honestly can't make it any clearer and simpler for you.....
Al-Lah isn't Yahweh!
Yahweh is God of Abraham, our Prophets/Apostles, scripture, us!
Al-Lah affirms that Al-Lah isn't Yahweh!
Al-Lah claims to be a different god by claiming we worship God, but don't believe in Al-Lah!
If Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, then Al-Lah is a hypocrite liar if claiming affiliation to Abraham, our Prophets/Apostles, scripture, us, and the Quran contains multiple contradictions triggering 4:82 multiple times, and this dictates that Isa can't be Jesus Christ, Quranic Torah, Zabur, Injil, never were, and never will be, our scripture!......
So as Christians, this alone means we'll never accept your cult, and you can't refute it, you can't defend it, and no matter how desperately you try to discredit God, Jesus Christ, our scripture, it won't change the fact that Al-Lah isn't Yahweh!......
Game over abdrool!....
I won't let this point slip or slide, you'd all better get used to this exposure and decimation of your cult! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
Wrong! You're embarrassing yourself by exposing your complete lack of education and understanding of language, especially English! 😂 🤣
So what you're saying is that when you beget a child, you are doing that act perpetually for the rest of your life!....
Orthodox, don't claim what you've stated because your fallacy redressed, has already been exposed!......
So I agree with the orthodox based on what they actually state, which is that "The Son of God, born of the Father before all ages, is not created. He was not made out of nothing. He was eternally begotten from the divine being of the Father. He belongs "on the side of God." Having been born and not made, the Son of God is what God is."
Educate yourself, go read a dictionary, take an English class, take a Bible study class too, they state WAS, NOT IS, WAS, eternally begotten by the Father, and is NOT created, which exposes and refutes your fallacy in regards to the use of the word" generated!
Aww, did your fallacy just become exposed and fall apart before your eyes! 😂 🤣 🤣
This fallacy is finished, dead and buried, don't waste my time trying to prolong the life of something that's already dead and buried!
Answer my question,
Can a god claim to be a god of a people and scripture, that those people believe in that god and scripture, and then command others to fight those people for disbelief in that god!?!
Or let me make it easier for you,
Is Al-Lah Yahweh!?!
If you run from this point/question one more time, I'm taking that as a forfeit and you accept that you can't handle or answer it, and you therefore by default concede, forfeit, and accept that your entire cult is false!
Understand this, I know it's hard because it's logic and you don't know how to handle logic.....
If your Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, and had to demand we believe in Al-Lah, then your quran and Al-Lah are hypocrite liars, and so is your pagan Sabian by default as the middle dingbat,
And this proves that Al-Lah is a fraud, so your quran is fraudulent, as is your pagan Sabian dingbat!
So if Al-Lah is proven not to be our God, then we don't care what you try and say or do to blaspheme and fallacious claims you make about our God, because they won't change the fact that your Al-Lah and cult are busted, and we won't accept or replace the proven God of Abraham, our Prophets/Apostles, our Scripture, us, for your pagan moon Lah and your pagan Sabian Muhammad!
They're nothing to do with us or our God, Isa isn't Jesus Christ!
So what now, the best you can hope for is to make Christians atheists, because no one in their right mind would ever accept Islam if they fell for the ignorant paradoxical oxymoron Dawah script, what would you tell me based on what I've exposed, are you going to say I shouldn't accept Yahweh even though Yahweh is the God in our scripture, of Abraham, our Prophets/Apostles, us, but should accept Al-Lah, oh, and Muhammad, got to maintain that shirk, right, and believe Al-Lah to be a god of Abraham, our Prophets/Apostles, our Scripture, even though Al-Lah isn't mentioned once in the Bible because Al-Lah is a name, Al-Lah affirms Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, who is God by Name in and throughout the Bible, and there's no mention of ahmed/ahmad in the Torah!
Surely you can see just how nonsensical, illogical, backwards, paradoxical, and oxymoronic this is!
So come on, I'm waiting, I can't wait to read how you're going to resolve this, now start by answering my question, and then elaborate with your explanation, but remember, dissing my God, my Yahweh, can't help you, it can't answer, refute, or challenge my question/point, all it can achieve is the exposure for all to see, that you can't defend your cult, you can't defend your Muhammad, that you've failed your Muhammad, you're an embarrassment to Muhammad, you don't understand your Muhammad, you're making a mockery of your Muhammad portraying him as a poor and failed "Prophet" who couldn't convey his message clearly!
Don't think he'd be too happy with you and your poor performance so far! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
I've dealt with and answered your question!....Jesus isn't generated, and no Christian, not even the orthodox, make such a claim, so your question is based on a false premise!.....
Everyone can see you can't answer/refute my questions/points, while I've exposed your fallacy, which the more you desperately cling onto it, the more you expose your cult!.....
Al-Lah is busted in 9:29! 😂 🤣 🤣
And our God isn't like Al-Lah, our God doesn't need the sweat of a horse to generate Himself, your Al-Lah does, and that's in your sources explicitly, claimed by your Scholars!.....
Now how does that work exactly, if the horse had to be created in order for Al-Lah to be created and generated, then who created the horse!?! 🤔 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Now let's have some fun and see you wriggle and squirm your way out of another embarrassment! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@christianityexposed9462
Jacob's Gospel, thought you were appealing to the Gospel of James!...
Aww, did the silly little abdool get mixed up and just expose his ignorance and fallaciousness! 😂 🤣
And want to show me where your Quran claims that these Gospels were part of the injil, how about you also prove the Syriac infancy Gospel and Talmud were sent by Al-Lah!....
Oh, and how about 9:29 & 29:46, where your Quran clearly states and proves that Al-Lah ISN'T the God of Abraham, the God of our Prophets/Apostles, our Scripture, us!.....Prove our scripture was around during the time of Moses! 😂 🤣
Why don't you explain and prove Jesus Christ to have been incarnate during the time of Moses, as a Levite nephew of Moses, if you think He's Isa, want to show me where Jesus was called Esau aka Isa instead of Yasue!....
Ever wonder why you can't find Ahmed/Ahmad in the Torah, or the entire Bible, because he isn't there, never was, never will be, same as your Al-Lah isn't mentioned once in the entire Bible, Al-Lah is a name, and Al-Lah never once claims to be Yahweh in the Quran!
Now because you're ignorant, let me make it simple for you,
Al-Lah/your quran, prove Al-Lah isn't our God!.....Prove me wrong, go on, try and refute me, and in doing so you'll have to start rejecting your quran! 😂 🤣
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I've got all of them busted practicing Taqiyya!....
Ibn Kathir affirms Muslims are the aggressors instigating the Jihad/War at the command of their pagan Sabian and his sock puppet Lah, and it includes/relates to Surah 9!
Ibn Kathir (English)
So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.
👉The Command to strike the Enemies' Necks👈, tighten Their Bonds, 👉and then free Them either by an Act of Grace or for a Ransom👈
Guiding the believers to what they should employ in their fights against the idolators, Allah says,
So, when you meet those who disbelieve (in battle), smite their necks,
which means, `when you fight against them, cut them down totally with your swords.'
until you have fully defeated them,
meaning, `you have killed and utterly destroyed them.'
tighten their bonds.
Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity or ransom,
`This is referring to the prisoners of war whom you have captured. Later on, after the war ends and the conflict has ceased, you have a choice in regard to the captives: You may either act graciously toward them by setting them free without charge, or free them for a ransom that you require from them.'
👉It appears that this Ayah was revealed after the battle of Badr👈. 👉At that time, Allah reproached the believers for sparing many of the enemy's soldiers, and holding too many captives in order to take ransom from them👈. So He said then:
👉It is not for a Prophet to have captives of war until he had made a great slaughter (among the enemies) in the land👈. You desire the commodities of this world, but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. Allah is Mighty and Wise. 👉Were it not for a prior decree from Allah, a severe torment would have touched you for what you took👈. (8:67-68)
Allah's saying,
... until the war lays down its burden.
Mujahid said:
"Until `Isa bin Maryam (peace be upon him) descends."
It seems as if he derived this opinion from the Prophet's saying,
👉There will always be a group of my Ummah victorious upon the truth, until the last of them fight against Ad-Dajjal.👈
👉Imam Ahmad recorded from Jubayr bin Nufayr who reported from Salamah bin Nufayl that he went to the Messenger of Allah and said,
"I have let my horse go, and thrown down my weapon, for the war has ended. There is no more fighting."👈
👉Then the Prophet said to him👈,
👉Now the time of fighting has come👈. 👉There will always be a group of my Ummah dominant over others. Allah will turn the hearts of some people away (from the truth), so they (that group) will fight against them, and Allah will bestow on them (war spoils) from them (the enemies) -- until Allah's command comes to pass while they are in that state👈. Verily, the center of the believers' abode is Ash-Sham. And goodness is tied around the horses' foreheads till the Day of Resurrection.
An-Nasa'i also recorded this narration.
Allah then says:
Thus, and 👉had Allah so willed, He could have taken vengeance against them👈;
👉which means that had He so willed, He could have taken immediate vengeance against the disbelievers with a chastisement or exemplary punishment directly from Him👈.
👉but (He lets you struggle) so as to test with one another👈.
👉meaning, He has ordered Jihad and fighting against the enemies in order to try you and test your affairs👈.
👉Allah also expresses His wisdom by the legislation of Jihad in the following two Surahs, Al `Imran and At-Tawbah, in which He says👈,
👉Or did you think that you would enter the Paradise before Allah had made evident those of you who fight in His cause and made evident those who are steadfast. (3:142)👈
👉Fight them; Allah will then punishes them by your hands, disgrace them, grant you victory over them, satisfy the breasts of a believing people, and remove the fury of their (the believers') hearts. Allah turns in forgiveness to whom He wills; Allah is Knowing and Wise. (9:14-15)👈
👉Merit of the Martyrs👈
Since it is customary during wars that many of the believers die, Allah says:
👉But those who are killed in the way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost👈.
👉which means that He would not let their good deeds go to waste, but would rather multiply and increase them. Some of them will continue being rewarded for their good deeds👈 for the entire length of their stay in Al-Barzakh.
This has been mentioned in a Hadith recorded by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad on the authority of Kathir bin Murrah, who reported from Qays Al-Judhami, may Allah be pleased with him, that Allah's Messenger said,
👉As the first drop of his blood gushes forth, a martyr is granted six merits👈:
👉all of his sins are forgiven👈,
👉he is shown his place in Paradise👈,
👉he is married to wide-eyed Huris👈,
👉he is secured from the great fear (on Judgement Day)👈 and
👉the torment of the grave👈, and
👉he is adorned with the adornments of Iman👈.
Ahmad was alone in recording this Hadith.
Abu Ad-Darda, may Allah be pleased with him, reported that Allah's Messenger said,
👉A martyr is allowed to intercede for seventy members of his household👈.
This was recorded by Abu Dawud, and there are numerous other Hadiths mentioning the merits of the martyrs.
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@aaronharun1394H
Al-Lah is one, so what, do you es Al-Lah want a medal! 😂 🤣
Satan is one, pagan moon gods are one, are they now Al-Lah's because they're one, is that what is Al-Lah's divinity, the number 1, is your Al-Lah a number with a shin, 2 rights hands, etc, etc!?!.....
Who cares if Al-Lah is one or one trillion Al-Lahs, your Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, your Al-Lah Al-Lah's self affirms this, so everytime you spew your waffle, you're actually rejecting your Al-Lah, Mad-ham-mu, and quran! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
Wrong! And I'll both expose and prove you're lying by repeating my point that YOU'VE always ran from, once you deal with my current point and question, which ironically, you're running from now and desperately trying to change topic, which already proves my counter claim as part of my refutation against you!
Oooo, now you're in a right pickle aren't you, what do you do, do you continue to prove me right by running, or do you try and take on my point, try answer and refute me, which I know you won't and can't!...
And then we'll move onto the definition of being, and the statement you've ran from multiple times which does provide the definition of the word being! 😂 🤣
Either and both ways, you're about to get busted! 😂 🤣
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@billshepherd5090
Peace of Christ be with you and God bless you Brother! 🙏
Ok, now, first off, it's our Scripture not the Muslims, we are the authority not them, even the quran states so in 10:94, so when they ask you a question they've handed the authority to you, and you assert it!....
Now, when we're talking about our Almighty Lord, He was before His incarnation, so when we're talking about Jesus Christ, that means Jesus in all His Glory and His entirety, that means we have the Entire Bible, OT and NT that applies to Him,
Now watch this......
Muslim: where does Jesus say explicitly that He is God (even if they include "Worship me")?
Cartoon Mo!: Genesis 31:13!
If they try to dispute it, then simply hit them with the catch 22....
Revelation 1:1 is Jesus God or the Angel of God Who declared He is God in Genesis 31:13!?!
See how efficient and proficient we can all be!?!....
Muslims focus on only the incarnation and that's what I see and get frustrated over with the brothers and sisters, because it's so easy to answer the question and place the opponent in a catch 22, and because this catch 22 dictates Jesus is God, that's islam busted in its entirety!
The Trinity fallacy, the injil corruption fallacies, they're just as easy, the injil exposes Isa as not being Jesus too, even the name Isa claimed to be Syriac destroys islam, He never spoke that dialect of Aramaic, He spoke Galilean Aramaic!
Hope that's helped you out brother, if you need me to elaborate on anything stated, feel free, if you want to go over the Trinity and our scripture to destroy those fallacies I'll happily share.
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@AlonzoHarris235
Wrong! It's a translation, big difference!....
Go on, prove me wrong, provide the name of the "interprator"!....
And your entire source catalogue is nothing but interpretations!....
Whose interpretation do you recite, Hafs, Warsh, etc!?!
Which out of Hafs and Warsh preserved the quran verbatim in 21:4, did Al-Lah quote mo post statement and that makes mo an Al-Lah alongside Lah, or, did Lah command mo to state the statement, can't claim same meaning, one's a quotation, one's a command, so, which is it!?!
Also, 4:157, who's speaking in this verse, I hear it's Al-Lah, but Qurtubi says you're all guilty of shirk!?!
And still waiting, what/who is "Al-Ra"!?!
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@SamA-xu9gy ntha
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@alonzoharris9049
Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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No Christian would claim your "3 Gods" fallacy as an answer! 😂 🤣
Your fallacy dictates that you now have 100 Al-Lahs, you can't unify one hypostasis!
And the bigger problem you have is, your Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, Al-Lah is the Name of your pagan moon demon (1:1), and nowhere is your Al-Lah mentioned in the entirety of the Bible, neither is your "the praised one" who you Glorify alongside Al-Lah (48:9 (shirk))!
The Quran actually exposes and destroys the contradicting Hadiths regarding pagan Sabians supposed first Revelation inside/outside the Hira cave!
If you believe the Hadiths, then the Quran is in error, if you believe the Quran, then the Hadiths are in error,
And this means that you now have to prove, as claimed in the Quran, that pagan Sabian boy was receiving and preaching Quran/revelations from birth!
Which is it abdool!?!
😂 🤣 🤣
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A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:
When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was commanded to give option to his wives, he started it from me saying: I am going to mention to you a matter which you should not (decide) in haste until you have consulted your parents.👉She said that he already knew that my parents would never allow me to seek separation from him👈 She said: Then he said: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: Prophet, say to thy wives: If you desire this world's life and its adornment, then come, I will give you a provision and allow you to depart a goodly departing; and if you desire Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the Hereafter, then Allah has prepared for the doers of good among you a great reward She is reported to have said: About what should I consult my parents, for I desire Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the Hereafter? She ('A'isha) said: Then all the wives of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) did as I had done.
وَحَدَّثَنِي أَبُو الطَّاهِرِ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ وَهْبٍ، ح وَحَدَّثَنِي حَرْمَلَةُ بْنُ يَحْيَى التُّجِيبِيُّ، - وَاللَّفْظُ لَهُ - أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ وَهْبٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي يُونُسُ بْنُ يَزِيدَ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي أَبُو سَلَمَةَ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ عَوْفٍ، أَنَّ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ لَمَّا أُمِرَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم بِتَخْيِيرِ أَزْوَاجِهِ بَدَأَ بِي فَقَالَ " إِنِّي ذَاكِرٌ لَكِ أَمْرًا فَلاَ عَلَيْكِ أَنْ لاَ تَعْجَلِي حَتَّى تَسْتَأْمِرِي أَبَوَيْكِ " . قَالَتْ قَدْ عَلِمَ أَنَّ أَبَوَىَّ لَمْ يَكُونَا لِيَأْمُرَانِي بِفِرَاقِهِ قَالَتْ ثُمَّ قَالَ " إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ قَالَ { يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُلْ لأَزْوَاجِكَ إِنْ كُنْتُنَّ تُرِدْنَ الْحَيَاةَ الدُّنْيَا وَزِينَتَهَا فَتَعَالَيْنَ أُمَتِّعْكُنَّ وَأُسَرِّحْكُنَّ سَرَاحًا جَمِيلاً * وَإِنْ كُنْتُنَّ تُرِدْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالدَّارَ الآخِرَةَ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ أَعَدَّ لِلْمُحْسِنَاتِ مِنْكُنَّ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا} قَالَتْ فَقُلْتُ فِي أَىِّ هَذَا أَسْتَأْمِرُ أَبَوَىَّ فَإِنِّي أُرِيدُ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالدَّارَ الآخِرَةَ . قَالَتْ ثُمَّ فَعَلَ أَزْوَاجُ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم مِثْلَ مَا فَعَلْتُ .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 1475
In-book reference: Book 18, Hadith 30
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 9, Hadith 3498 (deprecated numbering scheme)
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Actually abdool, Bible doesn't mention anything about doing what your vulgar Al-Lah claims to do via Al-Lah's own personal spirit, and if you're claini g that Al-Lah's spirit is created, the you're claim g Al-Lah is in part, created, it's Al-Lah's spirit, not Jibril, because it proceeds from Al-Lah, so to associate Jibril is shirk, and you all do, oh dear, you're all committing shirk!
Go on, challenge me to show you from Quran! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Who's Quranic Abrahams wife, and how did Abraham become the father of Jacob!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Sahih International
And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all [of them] We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.
I've also exposed the incest in your Quran!
And let's not forget that your Mad-ham-mu was related to khadija, to Aisha, had his way with his daughter in law, your Mad-ham-mu was trying to stick his thing in any and everything he could, related or not,
I wouldn't put it past him to have tried to hump Aminah at 4yrs old when she'd just given birth, which is hilarious! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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@OzunYildir
We’ll all you’ve proven is that chat GPT rejects your sources! Oh, and Chat GPT affirms Jesus is God!….
Point being, you’re reliant on AI rather than one’s own intelligence, that says a lot more about you than I!…
I’m referred to as people of the book, you and your best example are umiys, ergo, we’re the educated, the teachers, the superior, because we know how to read scripture, umiys by definition don’t, and you alongside your best example are commanded to come to us to get your book signed off, to validate your book, and your best example (10:94)! 😂
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@OzunYildir
Haha, you’ve just incriminated yourself by admitting that your chat GPT claim was based on Islamic preference not neutrally, unbiasedly, based on facts and truth!
Now, your accusation against us is dependant on us not going with what your sources claim, but we do, it’s our going with what your sources claim that becomes problematic for you, and because it doesn’t fit the narrative you’ve been spoonfed, you accuse us of being wrong, however, what this proves is that you’re wrong, you don’t accept what your sources state, and the doctrine!
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@marjan.f7441
You're getting desperate as you scrape the bottom of the zam zam Well abdool!😂🤣🤣.....
You've already busted Al-Lah by admitting our God isn't Al-Lah!..
Our God is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the fact you call Jesus solely, hypostatically, our God, exposes and proves you think the Trinity to be Modalism which is contradictory! 😂 🤣
And calling Mary woman wasn't rude, show me where Mary took it in such a way, is she not a woman, did the Lord not identify her correctly! 😂 🤣
And if we're going to talk about rudeness, morals, ethics, how about we take a look at your Mad-ham-mu the child marrying childbride wife beater!.....
He beat Aisha and found it amusing watching Aisha get struck by Abu Bakr, and they only did it to cheer him up because he was down in the dumps!
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Obi busted himself and his cult the second he appealed to Waraqa and the injil!...
If Waraqa was translating the injil in the 7th century, he had to have either the original or a copy of the "Islamic injil",
5:46-47, injil is affirmed as legit/authentic/uncorrupted, and is the entire Bible including Paul!
Hadith affirm the pagan Sabian authenticated the Torah!
So, Obi now has the burden of proof to produce the original/copy Waraqa was translating from, Waraqa's translation, and the Torah the pagan Sabian authenticated!
Furthermore, ibn kathir 3:56 (Arabic), authenticates not only our scripture, but Christianity, and the early Churchfathers up to the 3rd/4th century!
Ibn Taymiyyah authenticates our scripture, as do many more Islamic scholars like al-Razi!
And finally, the original injil is claimed to have been around during the time of Moses (7:155-157), and wherever the injil is, Isa is, so, can Obi prove that Jesus Christ was incarnate, with a written injil, during the time of Moses!?! 😂🤣
Obi, like many Muslims, is/has rejecting/rejected the quran, hadiths, tafsirs, and islamically credited Islamic scholars aka apostasised! 😂🤣
See how the quran, hadiths, tafsirs, and Islamic scholars bust islam for us, it's a catch 22!....
They have to accept their own sources otherwise they're apostates, and if they accept their sources then our scripture is legit/authentic/uncorrupted, and it busts Islam! 😂🤣
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@Muhammed-Dee
So you accept that Al-Lah is the pagan moon god Sin, Sin isn't our God Yahweh, Sin isn't the God of Abraham, our Prophets, the Disciples/Apostles, our Scripture, us!
That's your Al-Lah, Mad-ham-mu, Quran, and cult by default, busted!
And thanks, you brought 6:79, which strengthens my point, the fact, which you're agreeing with!
So, you're all pagans!
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@Muhammed-Dee
Abdool!...You said
"Yeah ok so what's wrong with the verse"
I already showed you, and you've strengthened my point with 6:79,
That Al-Lah is the god of quranic Abraham's people, and quranic Abraham only disputes his people assocuaritng other deities with Al-Lah!....
Abdool!....Al-Lah remains the god of quranic Abraham's people, aswel as quranic Abraham, and the chief deity of historical factual Abraham and his people, was Sin the pagan moon god!
Let me simplify it for you abdool!....
Sin = pagan moon god of Abraham's people, FACT!
Al-Lah = the god of quranic Abraham's people, FACT!
Quranic Abraham and his people both accept Al-Lah as their supreme god, FACT!
quranic Abraham only disputes shirk, NOT Al-Lah the God of quranic Abraham's people, FACT!
So......
Al-Lah is Sin!
Sin is Al-Lah!
NEITHER are God Yahweh!....
FACT!
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@Alam22414
I know exactly what I'm claiming, why I'm claiming it, and which verse states it!....
You think you know, you think you can challenge me, bring it on little boy, which verse am I referring to, go on, refute me, I challenge you to try!....
Either your Quran is in error/lying, or the contradictory Hira cave Hadith narratives are errors/lies, and that means Aisha is a little liar!...
Which is it!?! 😂 🤣
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@johndench628
You want a free Bible study lesson, no problem!.........
Jeremiah 3:31-34
Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD,
👉when I will make a new covenant👈
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
👉It will not be like the covenant
I made with their fathers👈
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of the land of Egypt—
a covenant they broke,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the LORD.
“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD.
👉I will put My law in their minds
and inscribe it on their hearts.👈
And I will be their God,
and they will be My people.
No longer will each man teach his neighbor or his brother,
saying, ‘Know the LORD,’
because they will all know Me,
from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD.
For I will forgive their iniquities
and will remember their sins no more.”
Romans 2:25-29
Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. If a man who is not circumcised keeps the requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? The one who is physically uncircumcised yet keeps the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and 👉circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code👈. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.
Matthew 5:17-18
👉Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them👈.
For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, 👉not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.👈
👉So then, whoever breaks one of the least of 👉these commandments👈 and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but 👉whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.👈
Here's the Commandments:
👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
You have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not murder’ and ‘Anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be subject to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fire of hell.
So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you,
leave your gift there before the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to depart into hell.
It has also been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, brings adultery upon her. And he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor should you swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black. Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘Hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?
👉Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.👈
John 14:6
Jesus answered, 👉“I am the way and the truth and the life.👈
👉No one comes to the Father except through Me.👈
Galatians 2:16
know that a man is 👉not justified by works of the law👈,
👉but by faith in Jesus Christ👈.
👉So we, too, have 👉believed in Christ Jesus👈,
👉that we may be 👉justified by faith in Christ👈
👉and not👈
👉by works of the law👈,
👉because by works of the law no one will be justified.👈
Romans 2:2
And we know that 👉God’s judgment👈 against those who do such things 👉is based on truth.👈
Romans 2:6-8
God “will repay each one according to his deeds.” 👉To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger.👈
Romans 2:14-16
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, 👉do by nature what the law requires👈, they are a law to themselves, 👉even though they do not have the law👈.
👉So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts👈, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them on the day when 👉God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel.👈
James 2:14-26
👉What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions?👈 Can that kind of faith save anyone? Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
So you see, 👉faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless 👉it👈 produces good deeds👈, it is dead and useless.
Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? 👉I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”👈
👉You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?👈
Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 👉You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete.👈 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: 👉“Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God👈. So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 👉Just as the body is dead without breath, so also
👉faith👈 is dead without good works.👈
Is your faith in God or the Law of God!?!
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@alonzoharris6730
Actually, you've just proven you don't even know what the word Esscence means, and you've created a self inflicted devastating paradox!
You've proven that the Esscence is hypostasis, mind, and wills exempt by affirming that there is a distinction between the Esscence and the hypostasis, but you appeal to, and affirm that Al-Lah, like you (Tut! Tut! comparing Al-Lah to human creation), has to be a single hypostasis and the Esscence is irrelevant, so in order for Al-Lah to be one and Divine, Al-Lah has to be a single hypostasis but can have multiple Esscences, and that dictates that your Al-Lah's attributes are independant Esscences, which dictates that you have multiple Al-Lahs, and that we're all Al-Lahs as we're all single hypostasis' and it's irrelevant whether the Esscence is Divine or not! Excellent! Brilliant! You've finally proven and affirmed that you, your fellow abdools, your Al-Lah, and your cult are all polytheistic! 👏 👏 👏 👏
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
Who's running, I've given you full freedom to use any and all, it doesn't make any difference to me,
And actually, there's 2 Torahs in the Quran, so you need to affirm which one Ahmed/Ahmad is meant to be in, so your strawman has backfired, which Torah do YOU accept, you're the one who is trying to prove Ahmed/Ahmad in the Torah not I!
So bring the reference, Where's Ahmed/Ahmad in the Torah, stop trying to run! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
9:29 affirms that Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, isn't the God of Abraham, isn't the God of our Prophets/Apostles, isn't the God of our Scripture, isn't our God, our Yahweh!
Because Al-Lah claims we don't believe in Al-Lah, but we believe in God Almighty, and His Name is Yahweh (يهوه)!
So your fallacious ignorance in regards to our God is nothing more than that, it's pitiful at best! 😂 🤣
Your entire cult from Al-Lah, to mo, to the quran, and all the rest, is exposed and busted! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
You've just admitted that Al-Lah isn't the God of the Bible, so Al-Lah isn't the God of Adam - Abraham - Date, Isa/Esau isn't Jesus Christ, Injil isn't our scripture, Torah/Tanakh aren't books of Al-Lah, Zabur isn't Psalms, Dawud isn't King David of Judah, Musa and Harun aren't Moses and Aaron, this applies to all your Quranic prophets!
And this admission also now proves that your Quran is false, in error, and contradictory, and your Hadiths, Tafsirs, and scholars are all full of nothing more than fabricated Taqiyya & Bid'ah!
Thank you for the admission!
Now show me one single verse in the original post it note scrapbook the post it note scrapbook claims to have been, where your Al-Lah actually speaks Al-Lah's self and states what you claimed Al-Lah stated, because your cult dictates that you only have the word of Jibril and the demon possessed crazy pagan Sabian charlatan soothsayer madhumus!
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@marjan.f7441
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@SamA-xu9gy
You need to pray the Lord's prayer, and we don't have a set dictated put your left toe in, your left toe out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about like you abdools, your asylum escapee has got you fretting over every single move you make, dare put a tie nail in the wrong place your prayers invalid, dare go toilet without stexitlynfolowong his madness, Shaytan will come get ya!
You have to recite ritualistic verses dieting intamcy, you have tonfollownrotuakirltic practices to eat, literally you're all like babies who need your Al-Lah and Mad-ham-mu to help you tie your show laces and put one foot in front of the other!and you all prove that you're immature and cannon reach and act at the level of a child, but hey, when you follow a 50 something year old with the mind of a little child, it's to be expected I suppose! 😂 🤣
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@SamA-xu9gy
Well here's how your fallacious essay falls apart!.....
Where in the Quran does it mention يسوع المسيح (Yasue Al-Masih (Yeshua the Messiah))!?!
Ahmed Deedat - The Choice Vol 1 & 2 - Page 52
Deedat claims Isa is a translation of Esau NOT Yeshua!
Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril
Life Of Isa
Page 1
Prophet Isa's Mentioned is noted in 10 different situations in the Quran. There is even an entire chapter (surah) named after Isa's mother, Maryam alyaha salam, as well as his grandparents Al-Imran alayahum asalam, who were chosen over all mankind. This Surat, Surat Al-Imran also reveals the story of Maryam alyaha salam, it outlines a description of her lineage and upbringing. It also relates the pure conception and birth of Isa alayhe salam.
Where in the Bible is there mention of Esau/Isa the Levite Son of Maryam, nephew of Moses (19:28 & 66:12)!?!....
Where in the Bible does it state Jesus Christ to be known by the name Esau/Isa and to be from the tribe of Levi!?!
How can Isa/Esau be Jesus Christ when Isa/Esau is hanging around with an injil during the time of Moses (7155-157)!?!
Where does ٱللَّهِ refer to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه (Jehovah)!?!
Why does Al-Lah affirm that Jews and Christians don't worship Al-Lah (9:29 & 29:46), which by default exposes and proves Al-Lah isn't anything to do with Jesus Christ, that Christians worship One God that isn't Al-Lah, and that Al-Lah isn't the God of Abraham, the Prophets, our scripture, the Disciples/Apostles, Jews/Christians!?!
You've even affirmed Jesus called Yahweh the Father His Father!
And here's the beauty in the irony, this is Checkmate, a catch 22, 9:29, Al-Lah has to be believed in, 29:46, Al-Lah affirms we believe in One God, so if we believe in One God, and you're commanded to believe what we believe, but Al-Lah says we have to believe in Al-Lah, then Al-Lah can't be the One God we believe in in 29:46, otherwise that's a contradiction which triggers 4:82!
Game over abdool! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@SamA-xu9gy
As predicted, 0 answers, 0 refutations,
So we can all now agree that I've proven to ven your Al-Lah, Musaylimahammad, your Quran, and your cult, are exposed and busted!
No matter what you say, if Al-Lah isn't the Jewish/Christian God, isn't the God of our Scripture, then the Quranic claims are all false/fabricated!
😂 🤣 🤣
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@alpha.7637
Haha, you're right!....
There's the Muhammad in the Quran, then there's the Muhammad of the Hadiths and Tafsirs, their whole Doctrine is Hadith and Tafsir orientated and its all Taqiyya and Bid'ah Doctrine!
They don't have a clue who Muhammad is, who Al-Lah is, they just blindly accept in ignorance what they're told, that's why when we start asking questions and making points, backed up with hard facts and proof, they can't defend against it, and they can't answer you, because they've been taken off of their scripts!
And every single claim they make against Christianity is a logical fallacy, it's in their cult, but they want to impose it on Christianity to try and justify their cult and claim superiority, but it always backfires and fails! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
First of all, you say "your God", that's all I needed as an admission,your Al-Lah is busted, your Al-Lah now can't be anything to do woth Abraham! 😂
And how do you come to the conclusion that my asking in regards to your Quran claiming that a sperm somehow becomes a clot, then a baby, on its own, has anything to do with fertilisation of an egg, there's no egg in my statement or point,
The only reference to an egg in addition, is the fact that an egg isnt a fluid, so your Al-Lah got that human creation all wrong! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
To elaborate.....
God has 3 ways of acting and being God, those 3 ways are as the Father, His Word (His Son), and the Holy Spirit that proceeds from the Father!
The Father can't be absent of His Word or His Holy Spirit as they're in Him and He's in them, they're unified by One Divine Nature and Esscence!
Your own Al-Lah has a spirit proceeding from Al-Lah, co equal with Al-Lah, but isn't what you identify as Al-Lah, you identify Al-Lah's spirit as Jibril!....Al-Lah is dualistic!
You don't even realise you're all committing shirk!
And this isn't a dig, I'm actually trying to help you by pointing out, if you truly believe in your Al-Lah, the quran, you're not following, truly accepting, and believing the declarations and statements of Al-Lah in the quran!
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@alonzoharris6338
Go on, tell me more, is the number of hypostasis what dictates Divinity, is being a single hypostasis what makes Al-Lah "divine", or is it something else!?!...Because if it's being a single hypostasis, then we're all Al-Lahs, so now bow to me, pray 500 times a day to me, kiss my feet, beg me for forgiveness, you're my Abdullah now, your Al-Lah has spoken!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Sam Oulton
Haha, I've been asking for the verse where it states Yasue Al-Masih because Isa is Esau in Arabic, is from Levi not Judah, and a nephew of Musa during the time of Moses (19:28, 66:12 & 7:155-157)!?!
In short, Isa has the wrong name, is from the wrong tribe, and time period, which by default proves the injil can't be, and never was, our scripture, unless the abdools can provide evidence to prove the above claims!.....And we all know they can't, and their Al-Lah, Quran, and their pagan Sabian butt munch are all busted! 😂 🤣
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@michaelknight6732
What has my God having attributes got to do with the Faculty of Knowing, oh that's right, nada, zip!
Now answer my question, do you agree with Jake the fake Taqiyyaphysician, that you believe the Faculty of Knowing is the same as the faculty of doing and acting!?!
Here, I'll help you out, no, they're not one and the same thing!
If I claimed the Faculty of Knowing I can eternally expose your cult, unless I do the physical act of exposing your cult eternally, then I cannot claim to be eternally exposing your cult, but your Al-Lah claims to be eternally creating, which isnt Faculty of Knowing, that's actually doing the act based on the faculty of Knowing!
Get it, see how jake the fake Taqiyyaphysician got himself busted when he tried to step to Bob!
And Bob was correct in his understanding and responses!
Your Fakey Flakey Jakey wouldn't be able to handle me! 😂 🤣
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@michaelknight6732
The Christian Orthodox criteria you're appealing to, and I've provided in detail, exposes and refutes you, and to claim that Divine Nature is meaningless dictates that Al-Lah is meaningless, and Al-Lah can't be a god of any sort, because Al-Lah doesn't have a Divine Nature! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
It's evident you haven't read the response, you're too scared to, because you know when I say you're busted, you are busted!
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Go on, run if you want to little boy, it's evident you can't cope with the spanking! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus
2:97 - Sahih International
Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah, confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers."
2:98 - Sahih International
Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and Gabriel and Michael - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
5:51 - Sahih International
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
3:28 - Sahih International
Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.
A prime example of Taqiyya (whenever there's an orthodox practice of Islam, the claim is that "Islam is peace", and that 5:32 applies to the Muslims)....
5:32 - Sahih International
Because of that, 👉We decreed upon the Children of Israel👈 that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.
Sahih Muslim 2167 a
In-book: Book 39, Hadith 16
USC-MSA web (English): Book 26, Hadith 5389 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.
Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 80
Arabic: Book 65, Hadith 4557
8:60 - Sahih International
And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
9:29
Arabic:
👈قَٰتِلُواْ👉 ٱلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤۡمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَلَا بِٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأٓخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ ٱلۡحَقِّ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ حَتَّىٰ يُعۡطُواْ ٱلۡجِزۡيَةَ عَن يَدٖ وَهُمۡ صَٰغِرُونَ
English Transliteration
👉Qatiloo👈 allatheena layu/minoona billahi wala bilyawmial-akhiri wala yuharrimoona ma harramaAllahu warasooluhu wala yadeenoona deena alhaqqimina allatheena ootoo alkitaba hattayuAAtoo aljizyata AAan yadin wahum saghiroon
Root:
Qaf-Ta-Lam = to kill, put to death, be accused, slay/murder/kill/slaughter, attempt to kill, render person like to one killed, to wage war/combat/battle, to master, contend/fight, deadly, knew a thing thoroughly/well, become acquainted with it.
Sahih International
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
3:56 - Sahih International
And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers."
3:56 - Al-Qurtubi Tafsir
Al-Jami’s Interpretation of the Rulings of the Qur’an / Al-Qurtubi (d. 671 AH) is classified & verified
Al-Lah Almighty says: {As for those who have disbelieved, I torment them severely in the world and in the hereafter} which means killing, crucifixion, exile, and punishment, and in the Hereafter with fire.
تفسير الجامع لاحكام القرآن/ القرطبي (ت 671 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
قوله تعالى: { فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَٱلآخِرَةِ } يعني بالقتل والصلب والسبي والجِزية، وفي الآخرة بالنار.
3:151 - Sahih International
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.
3:152 - Sahih International
And Allah had certainly fulfilled His promise to you when you were killing the enemy by His permission until [the time] when you lost courage and fell to disputing about the order [given by the Prophet] and disobeyed after He had shown you that which you love. Among you are some who desire this world, and among you are some who desire the Hereafter. Then he turned you back from them [defeated] that He might test you. And He has already forgiven you, and Allah is the possessor of bounty for the believers.
Selected Ahadith by Suyuti
2093 - Jihad in the path of Al-Lah is tourism for my Ummah
2754 - "Now, we invade them and they will not invade us"
2778 - "Islam dominates, and is not dominated over"
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@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus
To the Christians:
1 John 4:6
We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. That is how we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deception.
Ephesians 4:25
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one another.
2 Peter 2:1
Now there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
To the abdools:
Revelation 22:15
But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.
Abdool, you don't teach us, we teach you!
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@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus
60:8-9 actually gets you even more busted, Al-Lah doesn't forbid you from dealing justly dictates that you have the option and choice, do it, don't do it, makes no difference, so you're not forbidden, as is the case in 60:9,
60:8 is stating that your choice only applies to those who don't speak out against your cult, let you run amok, remain ignorant, submissive,
60:9 applies to anyone who dares speak up and out in opposition, dares defend themselves when you enforce 9:29!
So 60:8-9 is stating you can be good or evil towards disbelievers who allow you to conquer them and keep silent, but don't show any mercy to those that dare speak out or defend themselves!.....Al-Lah declares disbelievers are enemies of Al-Lah, and Al-Lah declares war on the disbelievers (9:29 (1 example))!
Nice try abdool but you're Taqiyya isn't quick or slick enough to work on me! 😂 🤣
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@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus
I'm not running at all, you are, and in your retreat, you're exposing the hind quarters of your Al-Lah! 😂 🤣 🤣
You've just affirmed that it's all to do with belief/disbelief, which is what I've stated and pointed out,
But also, you claim that it includes any lies told about Al-Lah, well, 4:82 challenges us to find contradictions in your quran, and furthermore, Al-Lah or you, have to prove a lie has been told, which is a bit hard to do when you're running from the claim/point/question!.....
So, how about we put it all through an acid test, how about I make a claim, and you actually try and expose it as a lie!?!
Let's see who runs, let's see who knows your quran and Al-Lah best!
😂 🤣 🤣
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@Servant-Of-Al-Qudus
I'll take that as "you're ready"!....
How can we be fought until we believe in Al-Lah if we're meant to believe and claim Al-Lah to be Isa, and even supposedly claim to be the children of Al-Lah!?!....Also, Al-Lah AND Mad-ham-mu are co equal in making Al-Lah's laws (shirk)! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
5:17 - Sahih International (Modalism NOT Triunity but belief in Al-Lah claimed)
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
5:72 - Sahih International (Modalism NOT Triunity but belief in Al-Lah claimed)
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "
👉Allah is the Messiah👈, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.
5:18 - Sahih International (belief in Al-Lah claimed)
But the Jews and the Christians say, 👉"We are the children of Allah and His beloved.👈" Say, "Then why does He punish you for your sins?" Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination.
9:30 - Sahih International (belief in Al-Lah claimed)
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the 👉Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah👈." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
9:29 - Sahih International (disbelief)
Fight those who 👉do not believe in Allah👈 or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful 👉what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful👈 and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
To avoid the contradiction, 9:29 should've been stated as follows.....
9:29 - Sahih International
Fight those who 👉Al-Lah's Messenger👈 or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what 👉Al-Lah👈 has made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
So, we have a contradiction, in fact 9:29 creates multiple contradictions, and it's an oxymoron, because you cannot both fight people UNTIL they believe and also claim that there's an option NOT to believe if you agree to extortion and humiliation (Jizya)!
4:82 - Sahih International
Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction.
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@quintessence3991
Actually, you came and made the claim that the Bible proves the Bible,
so the burden of proof is upon you, so, come, bring it, Where's your proof!?! 😂
Now, you said you can answer anything if we provide proof, so, just to clarify, are you muslim, would you be able to answer my questions if I can provide proof our scripture is legit, aswel as the early Church fathers, and Christianity in its entirety!?!
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@quintessence3991
Now now, ad hominems are a clear and evident sign one has lost the debate! 😂
You've not actually provided any sort of discrepancy or refutation to my understanding!.....
You admit sarcasm, again, sarcasm is irrelevant!....
You stated what you stated to try and assert a logical fallacy where there's none!....
But you've not stopped to think it through and realise that by doing this, you've made an indirect admission, that you believe that the quran does prove the quran!
And I know you're a muslim, it's obvious and evident by your responses, you reject our scripture, both OT and NT, which by default dictates and necessitates you reject the Torah/Tanakh, but you claim you believe in Jesus, so,
You're not Jewish, not a Christian (Obvs), and you're not an atheist/agnostic.....Because if you were then you'd have no problem stating proudly/confidently you're not a muslim, you're an.....
And the fact you're trying to avoid answering, trying to hide what you are, dictates and necessitates worry and concern that your own sources go against you/Islam, and that I know what you don't!
So, still waiting for your proof/evidence,
And I've offered proof/evidence, just waiting for the answer, are you muslim, don't you want the proof/evidence you're demanding!?! 😂
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@marjan.f7441
Wrong! You've just proven you know nothing about Yahweh! Yahweh is Triune! 😂 🤣
And I'll reply if I so choose, not you, you don't have control or a say in whether I reply or not! 😂
And it's you who worships a dead pagan Sabian man alongside his pagan moon demon sock puppet, who claims to be Nanna/Sin, 3 created angels, and is many moon gods assimilated (tawheed) into a single hypostasis, which means you worship multiple moon gods!
You don't even know where your Legion moon gods are on earth (6:3), and you reject your Legion moon gods claim to being a funny looking 2 right hand, 1 pogo shin foot hop along man in shape/form!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
So what shape/form does your Legion moon Lah Lah have if not a funny looking man as described and claimed, is it an alien, is it E.T.!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
And you've rejected your Quran!
Youve rejected Isa as Jesus Christ, or you're admitting Isa isn't Jesus Christ, because you claim Jesus christ didn't create! 😂 🤣
Your Al-Lah claimed to create inside the universe before the universe itself, your Al-Lah thinks stars can be used for precision strikes on earth!
Your Al-Lah thinks creation exists in a state of death, and then is created and resurrected, lives, dies, then resurrects again, so what are we in our states of death before our creation, where are we, how long have we existed in this state of death, and regardless, this is an oxymoron, you can't create what is supposedly already created!?!!
Science refutes your Al-Lah's ludicrous nonsense! 😂 🤣
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Using the Muslim's logic
Al-Lah states Al-Lah is "the what" in the quran, and the Hadiths state "the how" Al-Lah is Al-Lah,
And Hadiths say Al-Lah created a horse made it run and sweat, so Al-Lah could create Al-Lah from the horse sweat,
So, seen as there's no Hadith explaining the how of this Hadith, it's as simple as, the how is as explained in the Hadith,
Now I ask, how can Al-Lah exist as 1 hypostasis, create a horse, it runs, it sweats, and then create Al-Lah from the sweat!?!
It's the chicken or the egg dilemma (The horse or Al-Lah dilemma).😂🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
Not even you and your repetition of your cowardly, Da'if, fallacious, oxymoron, paradoxical, ignorant, ultracrepidarian script and tactics/strategies can't save ibn fibbin, your proven fake Al-Lah, your crazed pagan Sabian, or your book of errors and contradictions! 😂 🤣 🤣
Quran 1:1, the very first verse in your Quran, gets your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, and the Quran, busted! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@KidsChannel-sv1yk
Do women spend their entire lives in the church, are they under church arrest, does it state they have to cover their heads and shut their mouths on street, in public,
like in your cult where your women have to go full ninja stylee because you're so animalistic and sex depraved that you can't control yourselves, don't even know the meaning of self restraint and control!
You blame your women for that and make them liable!
If the abdool out of his own insecurities, even thinks that the woman is going to disobey him, 4:34 isn't stages, it's all inclusive!
You're commanded and sanctioned to marry children, especially the ones who you take captive, without any minimal age restriction, so new borns are fair game to you!
You even define little orphan girls, and prebusencent 6yr olds as women!
You even have a guidance on how to divorce them!
Even if you divorce a woman, and the she agrees she want sto come back to you, she can't until she's been with another man, and tasted him!
You even make a business out of it!
You have "temporary marriages", and you are even peostituion is sanctioned!
And your women have to let you have your way with them as, when, and how, even if the woman doesn't feel up to it, or want to!
Any grown bearded male visitors, they have to treat them like a hungry baby multiple times!
And you think you can come here talking about protecting women's rights, first you need to have women's rights established, implemented and enforced!
Go on, explain how all the above is protecting women's rights, this I've got to see, read, and hear! 😂 🤣
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@svensvenforkedbeard170
You think tough love means physical violence!
Did I say or even suggest that, no!
Does tough love dictate and necessitate a superiority complex!?!...No!
Did I even say that in my statement!....No!
Does tough Love dictate or necessitate others are not worthy!?!..
No!
Did I say that in my statement!?!...No!
Does tough love dictate and necessitate pride!?!....No!
Is stating that tough love is required over pacifism pride!?!....No!
So, first of all, you've just fallen fowl of defamation, telling lies!
If you're a Christian, then repent, apologise, and retract your slander!
Secondly, your the one now exposed as proud, so proud that you forget to take the beam of pride out of your own eye before trying to remove the beam from mine!
So again, repent, apologise, and retract you slander!
And thirdly, you've proven your ignorance and arrogance, so after this, learn the lesson, if you don't know for sure what another states, you clarify first to ensure understanding, only then can you make an informed factual conclusion, and ensure you understand the definitions of the words you manifest, because it's not what goes in the mouth that defies the soul but what comes out of it!
And if you disagree with what I've stated about Islam, prove me wrong show me one thing I've stated that isn't true! Did the Lord not say to tell the truth, are we not commanded to rebuke and expose all falsehood!
Have you forgetten these words from the Lord' Jesus Christ so easily!
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@gfhyrjkh
Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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To imply there's more than one God regarding the Trinity based on the hypostasis dictates an oxymoron and a paradox!
Your Al-Lah is multiple Al-Lahs ("divine" attributes/natures) unifying into one hypostasis,
And Al-Lah to be Al-Lah and one, Al-Lah is comparing Al-Lah to creation because we are all a single hypostasis, so we're all Al-Lahs, because the "divine" attributes aren't what make Al-Lah one god, its the number of hypostasis, so the qiran is in error and Al-Lah is a hypocrite claiming to not be comparable to creation, especially when we include the fact Al-Lah has male reproductive organs and has to use them like male creation, with a female creation, in order to have a son (21:17), and the fact that Al-Lah has to have a shape/form in order to be in earth (6:3)!
So what shape and form is Al-Lah!?!
Where's Al-Lah right now!?!
Why should we give a hoot about Al-Lah when we're all Al-Lahs as we're all a single hypostasis!?!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@Ap-ko3so
I accept the entirety of John Chapter 17, and you're busted!....
You've affirmed that John 17:3 states only God gives Eternal Life, 17:2 it's Jesus that gives Eternal Life, so Jesus has to be declaring He is God! 😂 🤣.....Now read and see how the entire Chapter busts you and your cult!....
John 17
1 When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come. 👉Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may Glorify You👈.
2 👉For You granted Him authority over all people, so that 👉He may give eternal life👈 to all those You have given Him.
3 👉Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.👈
4 I have Glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do.
5 👉And now, Father, Glorify Me in Your presence with the Glory I had with You before the world
existed.👈
6 👉I have revealed Your Name👈 to those You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours; You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.👈
7 Now they know that everything You have given Me comes from You. 8 For I have given them the words You gave Me, and they have received them. 👉They knew with certainty that I came from You, and they believed that You sent Me.👈
9 I ask on their behalf. I do not ask on behalf of the world, but on behalf of those You have given Me; for they are Yours.
10 👉All I have is Yours, and all You have is Mine👈; and in them 👉I have been Glorified👈.
11 I will no longer be in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to You.
12👉Holy Father, protect them by Your name, the name You gave Me,
so that they may be one as We are one.👈
12While I was with them, I protected and preserved them by Your name, the name You gave Me. Not one of them has been lost, except the son of destruction, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.
13 But now I am coming to You; and I am saying these things while I am in the world, so that they may have My joy fulfilled within them.
14 👉I have given them Your word and the world has hated them; for they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.👈
15 I am not asking that You take them out of the world, but that You keep them from the evil one.
16 They are not of the world, just as 👉I am not of the world.👈
17 Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.
18 As You sent Me into the world, I have also sent them into the world.
19 For them I sanctify Myself, so that they too may be sanctified by the truth.
20 I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message,
21 👉that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You👈. 👉May they also be in Us👈, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
22 👉I have given them the Glory You gave Me👈, 👉so that they may be one as We are one👈—
23 👉I in them and You in Me—that they may be perfectly united,👈
so that the world may know that You sent Me and have loved them just as You have loved Me.
24 Father, I want those You have given Me to be with Me where I am, 👉that they may see the Glory You gave Me because You loved Me before the foundation of
the world.👈
25 👉Righteous Father, although the world has not known You, I know You👈, and they know that You sent Me.
26 👉And I have made Your name known to them👈 and will continue to make it known, so that the love You have for Me may be in them, and I in them.”
Al-Lah isn't Yahweh!
Jesus is the Son of God, Glorified, by the Father!
Jesus comes from the Father!
Jesus is Co equal with the Father!
Jesus Gives Eternal Life so that both the Father and Jesus are known, together, Co Equally!
Jesus has the same Name as the Father!
To now claim Isa and Al-Lah as Jesus Christ and the Father, is to claim a contradictory hypocrite Al-Lah!
You've now got an entire chapter exposing you, not just a verse here and there! 😂 🤣
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@Ap-ko3so
Haha! You've just exposed & proven you don't even understand the incarnation! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
You think the incarnation is Jesus born human and then He was worshipped as God...
WRONG!!!!!....That's not the incarnation in any way shape or form, and it by default exposes your fallacy regarding the Trinity !
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
And regarding John Chapter 17,
I refer you to my refutation that continues to refute your dependancy on one verse for your fallacy that's obliterated by the verse prior to the cherry picked verse, you're only affirming that Jesus Christ declared He's God!
Oh, and by the way......
Your Al-Lah claimed to be 3 creations (15:58-66), and claims to have make reproductive organs (21:17), and claims to be in earth (6:3) which dictates Al-Lah has to have a shape/form, so what shape/form does Al-Lah have if not a man, especially when it's claimed Adam was made in the image of Al-Lah, oh, and what's Al-Lah's location in earth!?!😂 🤣
And you also worship Muhammad (48:9, Tashahud and Durood)! 😂 🤣
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You've just busted your cult!
Deuteronomy 6:4 uses the word Echad which is the root of Ahad, so God is one unified not wahid a single hypostasis!
How do you unify 1 hypostasis!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
Isaiah 48:12, you affected me rm that the First and the Last is God, so Revelation 1:17, Jesus declared He is God! 😂 🤣
Deuteronomy 4 proves there is only one Triune God, so Al-Lah not being Yahweh, Al-Lah is a false god! 😂 🤣
Exodus 9:14 busts your cult, show me the tenth plague in the Quran! 😂 🤣 🤣
Isaiah 43:10-11 you've affirmed only God is out Saviour, so Jesus saving all of mankind is God by default! 😂 🤣
Psalm 89:94 proves that you're whole fallacy is a paradoxical oxymoron, because God isn't like Humans yet you demand that my God in order to be one has to be a single hypostasis, and you apply this same paradoxical oxymoron in your Al-Lah, you say Al-Lah is one hypostasis and has to be one because humans are one hypostasis, but then claim that Al-Lah can't be comparable to humans, even though Al-Lah has male reproductive organs, and even affirms Al-Lah has to have a son like humans (21:17), has to have a shape/form in order to be on earth (6:3), and in 22:24 states an oxymoron stating nothing is to be associated with Al-Lah while associating the kaaba with Al-Lah!
And your Al-Lah claims to be 3 creations in 15:58-66!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Hosea 11:9 Jesus wasn't incarnate at the time of Hosea, so your cherry picked reference proves nothing but your ignorance and desperation to rely on red herrings and strawmen! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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You've exposed and destroyed your fallacy and your Al-Lah with your first point!.....
The Divine Nature and Esscence is what dictates if God is One or not, NOT the number of hypostasis!...
But you've affirmed that Al-Lah is only one based on the comparison of humans, being a single hypostasis, that contains multiple independant "divine" natures and esscences (gods) that are unified into the one hypostasis!
That dictates that we're all Al-Lahs because we're all a single hypostasis, and you still have multiple Al-Lahs! 😂 🤣 🤣
You've already affirmed Jesus called Himself God in Revelation 1:17 by affirming God is the First and the Last, and then there's Revelation 1:1, is Jesus God or the Angel of God that declared He is God in Genesis 31:13!?! 😂 🤣
Your 3rd point is a strawman! 😂 🤣
Hebrews 1:2-3 affirms Jesus is God, the Son of God, and the Creator of all things! 😂 🤣 🤣
1 Timothy 1:16 Jesus again just as in John Chapter 17, is the One who Gives Eternal Life, and you've already affirmed only God gives Eternal Life! 😂 🤣 🤣
And Romans 8:9 affirms that Jesus is God! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
You're busted abdool!....Again!!!😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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You've now affirmed yet again that you have multiple Al-Lahs, we're all Al-Lahs, and Al-Lah is comparable and compared to creation!
Your Al-Lah claims multiple divine natures and esscences, it's the Divine Nature and Esscence number that determines how many gods exist and are, NOT the number of hypostasis, that means your Al-Lah is multiple gods in one hypostasis, Al-Lah being one hypostasis doesn't change the fact that Al-Lah is multiple gods unified in that one hypostasis!......
Whereas the Trinity is one Divine Nature and Esscence unifying 3 Hypostasis, and because its the Divine Nature and Esscence that is identified as God, and the definitions of the words "Tri" & "Unity", dictate we have 1 God, you have many gods! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
John 10:30 busts your first cherry picked verses! 😂 🤣
Matthew 19:17 Jesus is identified as God and He affirms He is Good and that O my God is Good! 😂 🤣
Jesus in John Chapter 17 affirms God is His literal Father, and the fact that God is the Father in the Bible busts Al-Lah because Al-Lah is Father to no one! 😂 🤣 🤣
1 Timothy 6:13-16 affirms again that Jesus is God! 😂 🤣 🤣
1 Corinthians 8:6, again, affirms Jesus is God and Co Equal with the Father!.....What a joke you are, you didn't even read the verse before cherry picking and copy pasting it off of your script! 😂 🤣
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@Ap-ko3so
And you admit that you don't know and reject Al-Lah, and that your Quran doesn't mention Jesus Christ, and ask "so what?"......
Well here's "so what".....
The fact your qiran doesn't mention Jesus Christ, has zero affiliation or connection to Jesus Christ, dictates that your entire cult, your Al-Lah, your pagan Sabian, your cult book, all are fraudulent!.....
Al-Lah now can't be the God of Adam - Abraham - Date!....
The claims regarding the Bible are false!
Your cult is fully detached from us, and therefore we have no reason, need or compulsion to follow Muhammad the fraud!
He's not a seal of any of our prophets, he isn't even mentioned in our scripture!
And who is Isa, who are the Nasara!?!
What are the Torah, Zabur, and Injil, where are they, how many chapters and verses are in them!?!
Who is Al-Lah!?!
Why do you worship something that you reject and not admit not knowing, even though Al-Lah is in the Quran, which affirms that the qiran is on contradiction and error claiming to be clear but you don't have answers regarding its incoherent content!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
And you can't even redute my refutations that have exposed you as copy pasting a cherry picking fallacious ignorant script because you don't know what the Bible states!
You think John Chapter 17 is just one verse!....You're petrified to deal with the entire chapter because it gets you busted, even the verse prior (17:2) to your cherry picked 17:3 gets you and your fallacy instantly busted! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
And your quackran, your pagan Sabian, your Al-Lah, couldn't even understand the Trinity, there isn't a single verse that correctly describes the Trinity in order to dispute it! 😂 🤣
You're finished abdool!
You're exposed and defeated! 😂 🤣
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@Ap-ko3so
Matthew 28:18 affirms that after He Resurrected from the crucifixion He stated that all authority in heaven and on earth belongs to Him, that's Co Equality with the Father,
Matthew 9:6 affirms that Jesus again has all Authority!
You've just destroyed your fallacy! 😂 🤣 🤣
John 10:28, again, it's Jesus who Gives Eternal Life! 😂 🤣
Matthew 21:27 Jesus doesn't state who's authority He did what He did!
Busted, you again didn't even read the verse, just copy pasted it! 😂 🤣
Matthew 12:28, God has Spirit, Al-Lah doesn't, so Al-Lah can't be our God, or a god full stop! 😂 🤣
And the Spirit of God is the one and same Spirit that dwelt in the incarnate Flesh of Jesus Christ, and proceeds from the Father, so Jesus is God in the verse by default, proven by John 14:10! 😂 🤣
Mark 11:27-33 and Luke 20:1-8 are already dealt with via Matthew 21:27!
John 7:29 Jesus affirms He is literally from God! 😂 🤣 🤣
John 8:28 jesus Affirms He is the Co Equal son of God! 😂 🤣 🤣
John 8:40 Abraham knew Jesus (Genesis 18:1) and never tried to kill Him, John 8:49-50 Jesus affirms that God is His literal Father, He is Co Equal with the Father, and it is Jesus Christ who is God giving Eternal Life! 😂 🤣
John 5:19-22 & 5:26-27 again affirm Co Equality and that Jesus was with the Father before the incarnation, and that God and Jesus are literal Father and Son to each other! 😂 🤣 🤣
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Strawman! No Christian has ever claimed Jesus to be the Father, that's an oxymoron and both exposes and proves you don't know what the Trinity is, so your entire approach and argument is fallacious based on ignorant ultracrepidarianism! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
In the Trinity there's no issue with Jesus praying to the Father! 😂 🤣
Jesus has a human nature and Divine Nature, the human Nature was incarnate not the Divine, so naturally, the human nature, as applies to all, was dreading the upcoming death, that doesn't make any difference in regards to the Divine Nature within!
😂 🤣 🤣
Same applies to the Knowing of the hour, Jesus didn't come as the Messiah in order to divulge the time of the hour, that information was known but sutpressed in the Divine Nature which is the Spirit of Christ,
So all Jesus has stated is that the He has no need or use of that information during His incarnation, NOT that He never had access to or knew pre incarnation, or access that information post incarnation, and on the Trinity, that information can be known by any one of the Hypostasis, and that dictates God knows the Hour!
Your Al-Lah claimed the hour was attached to pagan Sabian's life/death, and should've happened shortly after,
So are we in Jannah or hell right now, Where's Al-Lah's pogo shin foot!?! 😂 🤣
John 10:29-30 proves Co Equality still because they are One, in nature and esscence! 😂 🤣 🤣
John 14:15, Jesus is Commands to keep His Commandments as God! 😂 🤣 🤣
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Abdool, every single reference and point you've made have been exposed s fallacious and demolished!
And you've affirmed that your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian madhammed, your joke book Quran, and your cult, are all false!
You've lost the debate!
So don't waste my time trying to keep posting your script, yoyve been exposed not knowing anything about our scripture, or the verses your posting, because verses you're appealing to end up supporting me and going against you! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
And I haven't even got onto the fact that your Al-Lah prays to another, so can't be one single hypostasis and one Al-Lah, and as is established, one Al-Lah hypostasis contains multiple divinities aka gods, so who is Al-Lah praying to, and how many hypostasis is Al-Lah if Al-Lah is praying to another, who is the other!?!
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@Ap-ko3so
Haha! You mean you've run out of script and can't defend said script, or your cult, you can't dispute or refute my refutations, and even ended up admitting that your cult, Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, and quackran are false!
Yep, I'd say you're fully exposed, served, finished, and done! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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No one asked you to prove the Divinity of Jesus Christ, but seen as it's obvious you're dependent on a script and you can't deviate from it because you don't have any knowledge, haven't done any study or research, haven't even read the Bible, I'll expose and destroy this ignorant weak fallacy with the following......
Jesus Christ declared He is God, explicitly, pre incarnation, whilst incarnate, and post incarnation, crucifixion and resurrection!
Revelation 1:1 & Genesis 31:13,
Is Jesus God or the Angel of God that declared He is God in Genesis 31:13 and affirmed to be God in
Judges 6:12-14 & 34, 36, 39 & 40, Jesus has to be One of the Two in Revelation 1:1!?! 😂 🤣
Revelation 1:17 why did Al-Lah steal the titles of Jesus and claim them as Al-Lah's own and these titles as only applicable to being God!?!
John 5:16-18 Jesus declared He is God!
Why can't you provide a single verse where Al-Lah declares Al-Lah is a god, because Al-Lah doesn't speak once in the entire Quran, unless Jibril /Muhammad are Al-Lah!?! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
You can't even prove your Al-Lah's Divinity, or Muhammad's false claim to prophethood, even your cult doctrine proves all Quranic prophets are frauds (22:52 & 39:37), your Quranic prophets don't even receive prophecies, they just have books that they read from, and your pagan Sabian admitted he couldn't read the Quran, so the Quran and the chosen reader were doomed to failure from the start, and your Al-Lah couldn't even say be and it was! 😂 🤣 🤣
You can't even provide a reference in the Bible stating Ahmed/Ahmad!
You can't even prove the claim that madhumus descends from Ishmael, which the claim itself is proven false based on historical and archaeological facts! 😂 🤣 🤣
You've already exposed and proven your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, quirkran, and cult are all false by admitting Jesus isn't anything to do with your cult! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Aww, are you crying now because your fallacy just got destroyed, and you don't have any answers or means to respond to refute me because you're an ignorant ultracrepidarian, and your weak script has failed you! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@Ap-ko3so
Hahaha, you've refuted your own fallacy and rejected islam in its entirety!
All sin is inherited via Adam's original sin, and both Christianity/Bible, and cultlam/cultran and Hadiths claim original sin!
Difference is, our inherited sin Hahaha, you've refuted your own fallacy and rejected islam in its entirety!
All sin is inherited via Adam's original sin, and both Christianity/Bible, and cultlam/cult ran and Hadiths claim original sin!
Difference is, our inherited sin is due to free will, and is affirmed by our God, in our scripture, and our Doctrine,
Whereas in your cult, your Al-Lah is liable and responsible for all sin as a predestinator, so your Al-Lah is proven to be a lunatic hypocrite coward! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Ginates from Adam, and is due to free will, is affirmed by our God, in our scripture, and our Doctrine,
Whereas in your cult, your Al-Lah is liable and responsible for all sin as a predestinator, so your Al-Lah is proven to be a lunatic hypocrite coward! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
So we have logic, you have lunacy!
We can prove the logic, statement, and claim, you can't defend the lunacy! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
And both the trinity and Divinity of christ has already been proven!
Your rejection via ignorance doesn't change the facts! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@djelalhassan7631
Now remember you were so proud that you've personally transliterated and translated 108, well, let's take a further look at 108:1.....
108:1
I - Inna - إِنَّآ
(pending your answer) - aAAtaynaka - أَعۡطَيۡنَٰكَ
Al Kauthar/Kawthar - alkawthar - ٱلۡكَوۡ
Now, what's alkauthar/alkawthar!?!
Who is the "I", and who is the recipient!?!
As this is directed at one specific recipient, the instructions in the surah only apply to the specific individual recipient not all!
Who are the "enemies", and why are they enemies in 108:3!?!
See, literary devices my back foot! 😂🤣
There's nothing special, unique, original, or any sort of message conveyed beyond the individual specific recipient, if mo, then the surah fails to meet your standard/criteria, whereas my surah does!
😂🤣
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@djelalhassan7631
Now remember you were so proud that you've personally transliterated and translated 108, well, let's take a further look at 108:1.....
108:1
I - Inna - إِنَّآ
(pending your answer) - aAAtaynaka - أَعۡطَيۡنَٰكَ
Al Kauthar/Kawthar - alkawthar - ٱلۡكَوۡ
Now, what's alkauthar/alkawthar!?!
Who is the "I", and who is the recipient!?!
As this is directed at one specific recipient, the instructions in the surah only apply to the specific individual recipient not all!
Who are the individuals opposing, and why are they opposition in 108:3!?!
See, literary devices my back foot! 😂🤣
There's nothing special, unique, original, or any sort of message conveyed beyond the individual specific recipient, if mo, then the surah fails to meet your standard/criteria, whereas my surah does!
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@djelalhassan7631
Now you've affirmed/provided proof that all your Hadiths are quran and vice versa, let's have some fun....
Which came first, the horse/s or al-Lah!?!
When Allah wanted to create himself, he created horses and made them run and sweat; then He created himself from that sweat.
Lisan Al-Mizan By ibn Hajar, Volume 3, page 96
Surah Zilzal tafseer
Hadith related by Imam Suyuti which states:
“When God Almighty wanted to create Himself, He created the horse first and let it gallop till it sweated. Then He created Himself from its sweat.
Abu Hurayra narrated:
It was said, “O Messenger of God, from what is our Lord?
He said, “From water not of earth, nor of the heavens. He created a horse and made it run. It sweated, and he created himself from that sweat.”
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@djelalhassan7631
Let's go with your claimed 10 letter surah 108......
108:1
إِ نَّ آ أَ عۡ طَ يۡ نَٰ كَ ٱ لۡ كَ وۡ
So, there's 13 Arabic letters in 108:1, we need to remove the last 3, and that has to be the entire surah according to you!......
إِ نَّ آ أَ عۡ طَ يۡ نَٰ كَ ٱ
I n a a a i t y n k
So, your challenge is that I have to create something better than
"I n a a a i t y n k"
And it has to meet all your standards/requirements!.....
Well you have to now first prove these letters meet your standards and requirements, that my surah doesn't, and that these letters are superior to my surah!
And, because you said that there can be no repetition, there's further omission of letters that is required, which creates the paradox, you have 10 letters, can't have repetition, so have to remove letters from the 10 letters due to repetition in order to uphold the challenge that only 10 letters without repetition have to be used in order to create a surah like it, which has more than 10 letters in both the verse first, and by default all three verses!
And I refer you back to the fact that there's more than 10 Arabic words in the surah!
Oh, and I still haven't even got started on the issues I've found when translating 108, this surah makes your cult look bad!
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@generaljg4373
Abdool! You said Christians sacrifice, what do we sacrifice, God isn't a Christian, God is God, Jesus Christ was THE Christ, He cannot be a Christian as He didn't follow Himself, that's illogical!
You don't even know what the word Christian means! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
And you claim the crucifixion was to do with Jesus Christ sinning, now prove it, show me one verse where Jesus sinned!
22:52 & 39:37 proves all your prophets were sinners, and false, and a contradiction, which triggers 4:82!
Thats your entire cult finished using just 3 verses! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17 - Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30 - Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4 - Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19 - Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38 - Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187 - Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34 - Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63 - Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47 - Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85 - Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42 - Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44 - Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63 - Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116 - Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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And the final one!....
Al-Lah's spirit guides Mad-ham-mu not Jibril:
93:7 - Sahih International
And He found you lost and guided [you],
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
(as regards) Allah's Statement: "Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith." (75.16) When Gabriel revealed the Divine Inspiration 👉in👈Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) , 👉he (Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)) moved his tongue and lips👈, and that state used to be very hard for him, and that movement indicated that revelation was taking place. So Allah revealed in Surat Al-Qiyama which begins: 'I do swear by the Day of Resurrection...' (75) the Verses:-- 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith. It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) in your mind, and give you the ability to recite it by heart. (75.16-17) Ibn `Abbas added: It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) (in your mind), and give you the ability to recite it by heart means, "When We reveal it, listen. Then it is for Us to explain it," means, 'It is for us to explain it through your tongue.' So whenever Gabriel came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ' he would keep quiet (and listen), and when the Angel left, the Prophet (ﷺ) would recite that revelation as Allah promised him.
Sahih Al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 451
Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4929
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That's interesting considering your Al-Lah ended up exhausted trying to figure out if Al-Lah created the earth in 6 or 8 days (10:3 & 41:9-12), had to retire to Al-Lah's throne as Al-Lah couldn't figure it out or what order Al-Lah created(7:54, 13:2, 32:4, 57:4), and even has angels surrounding this throne and has to be carried around on it (39:75, 40:7), so Al-Lah has to rest, and, what is Al-Lah, what does Al-Lah have in order to sit on this throne!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
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No need for you to investigate, here let me educate!.....
4:3
Arabic:
وَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تُقۡسِطُواْ فِي 👈ٱلۡيَتَٰمَىٰ👉 فَٱنكِحُواْ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ مَثۡنَىٰ وَثُلَٰثَ وَرُبَٰعَۖ فَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تَعۡدِلُواْ فَوَٰحِدَةً أَوۡ مَا مَلَكَتۡ أَيۡمَٰنُكُمۡۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَلَّا تَعُولُواْ
English Transliteration
Wa-in khiftum alla tuqsitoo
👉feealyatama👈 fankihoo ma tabalakum mina annisa-i mathna wathulathawarubaAAa fa-in khiftum alla taAAdiloo fawahidatanaw ma malakat aymanukum thalika adnaalla taAAooloo
Ya-Ta-Miim = orphan, fatherless, become isolated or lonely, solitary, weary, jaded, become widow,
👉become without father before puberty/maturity.👈
yatim n.m. (pl. yatama) 2:83, 2:177, 2:215, 2:220, 4:2, 👉4:3👈, 4:6, 4:8, 4:10, 4:36, 4:127, 4:127, 6:152, 8:41, 17:34, 18:82, 59:7, 76:8, 89:17, 90:15, 93:6, 93:9, 107:2
Sahih International
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the 👉orphan girls👈, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Ibn Kathir Tafsir (4:3)
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry (other) women of your choice,
Allah commands, 👉when one of you is the caretaker of a female orphan and he fears that he might not give her a dowry👈 that is suitable for women of her status, he should marry other women, who are plenty as Allah has not restricted him.
Al-Bukhari recorded that Aishah said,
👉"A man was taking care of a female orphan and he
married her👈, although he did not desire to marry her. That girl's money was mixed with his, and he was keeping her portion from her. Afterwards, this Ayah was revealed about his case;
If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly..."
Al-Bukhari recorded that Urwah bin Az-Zubayr said that;
he 👉asked Aishah about the meaning👈 of the statement of Allah,
(If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls).
👉She said, "O my nephew! This is about the orphan girl who lives with her guardian and shares his property. Her wealth and beauty may tempt him to marry her without giving her an adequate dowry👈 which might have been given by another suitor. So, such guardians were forbidden to marry such orphan girls unless they treated them justly and gave them the most suitable dowry; otherwise they were ordered to marry woman besides them."
👉Aishah further said,
"After that verse, the people again asked the Messenger of Allah (about marriage with orphan girls)👈, so Allah revealed the Ayah,
(They ask your instruction concerning the women..)." (4:127)
She said,
"Allah's statement in this Ayah,
(yet whom you desire to marry) (4:127) refers to the guardian who does not desire to marry an orphan girl under his supervision because she is neither wealthy nor beautiful. 👉The guardians were forbidden to marry their orphan girls possessing property and beauty without being just to them👈, as 👉they generally refrain from marrying them (when they are neither beautiful nor wealthy)."👈
The Permission to Marry Four Women
Allah's statement,
two or three, or four,
means, marry as many women as you like, other than the orphan girls, two, three or four.
We should mention that Allah's statement in another Ayah,
(Who made the angels messengers with wings, - two or three or four), (35:1), does not mean that other angels do not have more than four wings, as there are proofs that some angels do have more wings. Yet, men are prohibited from marrying more than four wives, as the Ayah decrees, since the Ayah specifies what men are allowed of wives, as Ibn Abbas and the majority of scholars stated. If it were allowed for them to have more than four wives, the Ayah would have mentioned it.
Imam Ahmad recorded that Salim said that his father said that;
Ghilan bin Salamah Ath-Thaqafi had ten wives when he became Muslim, and the Prophet said to him, "Choose any four of them (and divorce the rest)."
During the reign of Umar, Ghilan divorced his remaining wives and divided his money between his children.
When Umar heard news of this, he said to Ghilan, "I think that the devil has conveyed to your heart the news of your imminent death, from what the devil hears during his eavesdropping. It may as well be that you will not remain alive but for a little longer. By Allah! You will take back your wives and your money, or I will take possession of this all and will order that your grave be stoned as is the case with the grave of Abu Righal (from Thamud, who was saved from their fate because he was in the Sacred Area. But, when he left it, he was tormented like they were)."
Ash-Shafi`i, At-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, Ad-Daraqutni and Al-Bayhaqi collected this Hadith up to the Prophet's statement, "Choose any four of them."
Only Ahmad collected the full version of this Hadith.
Therefore, had it been allowed for men to marry more than four women at the same time, the Prophet would have allowed Ghilan to keep more than four of his wives since they all embraced Islam with him. When the Prophet commanded him to keep just four of them and divorce the rest, this indicated that men are not allowed to keep more than four wives at a time under any circumstances. If this is the case concerning those who already had more than four wives upon embracing Islam, then this ruling applies even more so to marrying more than four.
Marrying Only One Wife When One Fears He Might not Do Justice to His Wives
Allah's statement,
But if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one 👉or what your right hands possess.👈
👉The Ayah commands👈, if you fear that you will not be able to do justice between your wives by marrying more than one, then marry only one wife, or 👉satisfy yourself with only female captives👈,
for 👉it is not obligatory to treat them equally👈, rather it is recommended. So if one does so, that is good, and if not, there is no harm on him.
In another Ayah, Allah said,
You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire. (4:129)
Allah said,
That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu,
meaning, from doing injustice.
Ibn Abi Hatim, Ibn Marduwyah and Abu Hatim Ibn Hibban, in his Sahih, recorded that Aishah said that,
the Prophet said that the Ayah,
(That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu, means, from doing injustice.
However, Ibn Abi Hatim said that his father said that this Hadith to the Prophet is a mistake, for it should be attributed to Aishah not the Prophet.👈
Ibn Abi Hatim reported from Ibn Abbas, Mujahid, Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Abu Malik, Abu Razin, An-Nakhai, Ash-Sha`bi, Ad-Dahhak, Ata Al-Khurasani, Qatadah, As-Suddi and Muqatil bin Hayyan that;
Ta`ulu means to deviate (from justice).
Giving the Dowry is Obligatory
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Hassan became a lollipop 🍭!
"Musnad Ahmad 16245—[Mua’wiya said]: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)"
Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9
مجمع الزوائد لعلي بن أبى بكر الهيثمي
رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن
translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) p***s.”
Al Tabari said :
Al Hasan ben Ali Al Faswi narrated to us about Khaled ben Yazid Al Arni, about Jarir, About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father, that Ibn Abbass RA said:
He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s.
Al Mujam Al Kabir by Al Tabarani vol 3, p 51
Ibn Abi Dunya narrated about his sheikh Isaac ben Ismail about Jarir about Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father:
the prophet used to put Al Husein’s legs apart and kiss his (little) p***s. Ibn Abi Dunyaa, Al iyal vol 1, p 376
Ibn Asaker narrated in Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus):
Abu Al Kasim Ali Ben Ibrahim and Abu Al Hassan Ali ben Ahmed, about Abu mansour ben Zurayq told us, about Abu Bakr Ahmed ben Ali Al Khateeb, about Al Azhari, about Al muaafi ben Zakarya, about Muhamed ben Mazyad ben Abi Al Azhar, about Ali ben Muslim Al Tousi, about Said ben Ameir, About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan, about his father, about his grandfather, about Jabir ben Abd Allah RA.
And he narrated to us Another time (Qabous) about his father, about jabir ben Abd Allah RA said:
I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s and Saying: May Allah curse the one who will kill you.
Ibn Asaker, Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus) vol 14, p 224
Al Bayhaqi narrated in his book Al Sunan Al Kubra:
Abu bakr Al Qadi and Abu Said ben Abi Amrou said, Abu Al Abbas Muhamed ben Yacoub said, muhamed ben Isaac said, Muhamed ben Imraan about his father, about ben Abi Layla about Isa about Abd-alrahman ben Abi Layla said:
We were at the presence of Rasoul Allah, and al Hasan came to him, he kissed his (little) p***s.
Al Bayhaqi, Al Sunan Al Kubra vol 1, p 137
Ibn Asaker in Tarikh Dimashq:
Abu Muhamed Ismail ben Abi Al Qasim, about Abu Hafs Omar ben Ahmed ben Masrour, about Al Hakim Abu Ahmed Muhamed ben muhamed ben Ahmed Al Hafiz, about Abu Yusef Muhamed ben Sufyan Al Safaar in Al Masisa, about Al yaman ben Said, about Al Harith ben Atiya, about Shu’ba, About Al Hakam, about Ibrahim, About Anas RA that he said: I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s.
Ibn Asaker, Tarikh Dimashq, vol 13, p 222.
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Jeremiah 3:1-2
“If a man divorces his wife
and she leaves him to marry another,
can he ever return to her?
Would not such a land be completely defiled?
But you have played the harlot with many lovers—and you would return to Me?”
declares יְהֹוָֽה׃ (Yahweh).
“Lift up your eyes to the barren heights and see. Is there any place where you have not been violated? You sat beside the highways waiting for your lovers, 👉like a כַּעֲרָבִ֖י👈 in the desert. 👉You have defiled the land with your prostitution and wickedness.👈
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
ka·‘ă·rā·ḇî - כַּעֲרָבִ֖י
6163. Arabiy
Arabian
Or marbiy {ar-bee'}; patrial from Arab; an Arabian or inhabitant of Arab (i.e. Arabia) -- Arabian.
Hadiths:
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was asked about a woman whom a man married and then divorced her, and then she married (another) person, and she was divorced before sexual intercourse with her, whether it was lawful for her first husband (to marry her in this state). He (the Holy Prophet) said:
No, until he has tasted her sweetness.
Sahih Muslim 1433 d
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3357 (deprecated)
A'Asha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:
A person divorced his wife by three pronouncements; then another person married her and he also divorced her without having sexual intercourse with her. Then the first husband of her intended to remarry her. It was about such a case that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was asked, whereupon he said: No, until the second one has tasted her sweetness as the first one had tasted.
Sahih Muslim 1433 f
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 134
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3359
(deprecated)
It was narrated from 'Aishah that a man divorced his wife three times and she married another husband who divorced her, before having intercourse with her. The Messenger of Allah was asked:
"Is she permissible for the first (husband to remarry her)?" He said: "No, not until he tastes her sweetness as the first tasted her sweetness."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3412
In-book: Book 27, Hadith 24
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 27, Hadith 3441
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was asked about a man who divorced his wife three times, and she married another who entered upon her, but divorced her before having intercourse with her, whether she was lawful for the former husband. She said: The Prophet (ﷺ) replied: She is not lawful for the first (husband) until she tastes the honey of the other husband and he tastes her honey.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 2309
In-book: Book 13, Hadith 135
English translation: Book 12, Hadith 2302
It was narrated from Ibn 'Umar,:
from the Prophet, concerning a man who had a wife then divorced her, then another man married her but divorced her before consummating the marriage. Could she go back to the first man? He said: "No, not until he tastes her sweetness."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan Ibn Majah
English: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1933
Arabic: Book 9, Hadith 2008
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah was asked about a man who divorced his wife, and she married another man who had a closed meeting with her then divorced her, before having intercourse with her. Is it permissible for her to remarry the first husband? The Messenger of Allah said: 'No, not until the second one tastes her sweetness and she tastes his sweetness.'"
Da'if (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3407
In-book: Book 27, Hadith 19
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 27, Hadith 3436
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Wrong! Actually it's God's nature to create, what God creates is miraculous, is it not miraculous how God created the universe, and everything within, are we not a miraculous creation, can any but God create what God has created,
Go and actually look up the definition of miraculous, you'll see just how wrong you are!
And John doesn't contradict Jesus in Revelation. 1:1, so, you can't hide behind that excuse, so I'll ask again,
In Revelation 1:1, Jesus has to be either God or the Angel of God, which title is in reference to Jesus Christ!?!.....
You say you love and follow John, believe in his words when it suits you, but then reject his words when they don't, that's an abdool Hadith type mindest, next you'll be trying to claim parts of scripture as Sahih, and others as Da'if! 😂 🤣 🤣
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Al-Lah and Isa are 1 person:
5:17
Sahih International
They have certainly disbelieved who say that 👉Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.👈 Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
9:30
Sahih International
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and 👉the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ."👈 That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
Al-Lah has a distinct spirit from Al-Lah:
Sad 38:72
Sahih International
So when I have proportioned him and breathed into him 👉of My [created] soul👈, then fall down to him in prostration."
English - Yusuf Ali
"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him 👉of My spirit👈, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
English - Pickthall
And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him 👉of My Spirit👈, then fall down before him prostrate,
Al-Qadr 97:4
Sahih International
The angels 👉and👈 the Spirit descend therein by permission of their Lord for every matter.
81:19-20 - The Spirit of Al-Lah shares power aka is co equal, and the Quran is also a noble messenger (Pickthall 81:20 affirms prescene with,) !
81:19
Sahih International
[That] indeed, the Qur'an is a word [conveyed by] a noble messenger
81:20
Sahih International
[Who is] possessed of power and 👉with👈 the Owner of the Throne, secure [in position],
Pickthall
Mighty, established 👉in the presence of👈 the Lord of the Throne,
The spirit of Al-Lah again is seperate to angels and standing in a rank! 😂
78:38
Sahih International
The Day that the Spirit 👉and👈 the angels will stand in rows, they will not speak except for one whom the Most Merciful permits, and he will say what is correct.
Al-Lah creates Isa with Al-Lah's spirit, and Isa is both the Word and the Spirit from Al-Lah:
4:171
يَٰٓأَهۡلَ ٱلۡكِتَٰبِ لَا تَغۡلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمۡ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلَّا ٱلۡحَقَّۚ إِنَّمَا ٱلۡمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ 👈وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ👉 أَلۡقَىٰهَآ إِلَىٰ مَرۡيَمَ وَرُوحٞ مِّنۡهُۖ فَـَٔامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦۖ وَلَا تَقُولُواْ ثَلَٰثَةٌۚ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيۡرٗا لَّكُمۡۚ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَٰهٞ وَٰحِدٞۖ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥٓ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٞۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِۗ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلٗا
English Transliteration
Ya ahla alkitabi lataghloo fee deenikum wala taqooloo AAala Allahiilla alhaqqa innama almaseehu AAeesaibnu maryama rasoolu Allahi 👉wakalimatuhu👈 alqahaila maryama waroohun minhu faaminoo billahiwarusulihi wala taqooloo thalathatun intahookhayran lakum innama Allahu ilahun wahidunsubhanahu an yakoona lahu waladun lahu ma fee assamawatiwama fee al-ardi wakafa billahiwakeela
Root:
Kaf-Lam-Miim = 👉To speak, express.👈
👉kalimah n.f. (pl. kalimat, and kalim) - word, command, agreement, common term.👈
2:37, 2:124, 3:39, 3:45, 3:64, 4:46, 👉4:171👈, 5:13, 5:41, 6:34, 6:115, 7:137, 7:158, 8:7, 9:40, 9:40, 9:74, 10:19, 10:33, 10:64, 10:82, 10:96, 11:110, 11:119, 14:24, 14:26, 18:5, 18:27, 18:109, 18:109, 20:129, 23:100, 31:27, 35:10, 37:171, 39:19, 39:71, 40:6, 41:45, 42:14, 42:21, 42:24, 43:28, 48:26, 66:12
Sahih International
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but 👉a messenger of Allah👈
👉and👈👉His word👈 which He directed to Mary and 👉a soul👈 [created at a command] 👉from Him👈. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Yusuf Ali
O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) 👉a messenger of Allah👈,
👉and👈👉His Word👈, which He bestowed on Mary, and 👉a spirit proceeding 👉from Him👈: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
Al-Lah and Isa are 2 persons Co Equal:
9:31
Arabic:
ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابٗا مِّن دُونِ 👈ٱللَّهِ👉
👈وَ👉👈ٱلۡمَسِيحَ👉 ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ وَمَآ أُمِرُوٓاْ إِلَّا لِيَعۡبُدُوٓاْ إِلَٰهٗا وَٰحِدٗاۖ لَّآ إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَۚ سُبۡحَٰنَهُۥ عَمَّا يُشۡرِكُونَ
Al-Lah and/and the Messiah (ٱللَّهِ وَ ٱلۡمَسِيحَ)
English Transliteration
Ittakhathoo ahbarahumwaruhbanahum arbaban min dooni 👉Allahi👈
👉(wa)lmaseeha👈ibna maryama wama omiroo illa liyaAAbudoo ilahanwahidan la ilaha illa huwa subhanahuAAamma yushrikoon
Wa (وَ) -
Conjunction - And, "comma", "semi-colon; a divider of words or clauses, particle of connection or continuation.
Sahih International
They have taken their scholars and monks as lords 👉besides Allah👈, 👉and👈[also]
👉the Messiah, the son of Mary.👈 And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. 👉Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.👈
Yusuf Ali
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords 👉in derogation of Allah👈,
👉and👈 (they take as their Lord)
👉Christ the son of Mary👈; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him:
👉(Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).👈
This is shirk, Al-Lah and the messiah are identified as 2 persons but 1 Al-Lah, this sis dualism, it also contradicts 5:116!.......
Al-Lah should be the only one who knows the Hour, but Isa is the knowledge of the Hour...
Isa is the knowledge of the Hour:
43:61
Sahih International
And indeed, 👉Jesus will be [a sign for] knowledge of the Hour👈, so be not in doubt of it, and follow Me. This is a straight path.
Mufti Taqi Usmani
And 👉he (‘Īsā) is 👉a source of knowledge of the Hour👈 (the Day of Judgment); so do not be in doubt about it, and follow me. This is the straight way.
But only Al-Lah knows the Hour:
7:187
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour👈: when is its arrival? Say, 👉"Its knowledge is only with my Lord👈. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."
31:34
Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour👈 and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
33:63
Sahih International
People ask you 👉concerning the Hour. Say," Knowledge of it is only with Allah👈. And what may make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near."
41:47
Sahih International
👉To Him [alone] is attributed knowledge of the Hour👈. And fruits emerge not from their coverings nor does a female conceive or give birth except with His knowledge. And the Day He will call to them, "Where are My 'partners'?" they will say, "We announce to You that there is [no longer] among us any witness [to that]."
43:85
Sahih International
And blessed 👉is He👈 to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them and 👉with whom is knowledge of the Hour👈 and to whom you will be returned.
79:42
Sahih International
They ask you, [O Muhammad], 👉about the Hour: when is its arrival?👈
79:44
Sahih International
To 👉your Lord👈 is its finality.
Here in 43:63, the wa being conjunctive, this verse can mean that Isa IS Al-Lah and stating to fear Isa as Al-Lah, and to obey Isa as Al-Lah, it can be claimed to be a distinction between the 2, but still, obeying Isa not Al-Lah is the requirement, so follow Isa or Al-Lah!?!
43:63
Sahih International
And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and 👉obey me👈.
Al-Lah, Isa, and Mary are 3 persons/gods:
5:116
Sahih International
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 👉"O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as 👉deities
besides👈 Allah ?'"👈He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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There's no anger or hatred here, not even implied, I'm laughing at the fact that to date not a single abdool has been able to defend your cult, not even you, want to put my statement and claim to the test, I guarantee that if I make one point or ask one question, you'll instantly prove me right and fail to defend your cult and end up leaving it exposed and busted!
You're not playing with a fellow ignorant ultracrepidarian now, no, you're actually now trying to challenge a Christian who knows what he's talking about in regards to our Lord, our God, and our Saviour, our scripture, and Christianity, aswel as your cult, Quran, Al-Lah, and the possessed pagan Sabian you follow blindly!
So by all means, take up the challenge!
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About come here thinking you know our scripture, abdool, you don't know nothing, just like your Rasoul Al-Shaytan knew nothing!....
Luke 23:2
And they began to accuse Him, saying, “We found this man subverting our nation, forbidding payment of taxes to Caesar, and
👉proclaiming Himself to be Christ, a King.”👈
Busted abdool! Now show us where Ahmad is mentioned in the Torah, guess what, it isn't there, anywhere, in the entire Bible let alone specifically the Torah!
Even your Hadiths expose and bust this claim, Hadiths claim Isaiah, but Isaiah isn't the Torah it's the Nevi'im!
You abdools try and claim song of Solomon 5:16, thatsbthe Ketuvim NOT the Torah, and the word even backfires as its used elsewhere in the Bible and goes against your Mad-ham-mu! 😂 🤣
And Deuteronomy completely annihilates Mad-ham-mu because Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, and the prophet to come has to claim prophethood by the Name of Yahweh NOT Lah the pagan moon god! 😂 🤣
Haha, your Rasoul Al-Shaytan just got busted alongside you! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@fahiymmuhammad785
Hold on, you tried to discredit our scripture, and now you want to appeal to it to try and claim Mad-ham-mu as the Holy Spirit,
Fahiym Muhammad @Cartoon Mo!
"Christians Try To Hijack The Torah, But The Only Writings Christian Can Claim Is What's Being Called 'The New Testament' (Hadiyth of the Disciples). The Hadiyth Of The Disciples Are Hearsay, Tales, Writings Of Men, These Are In No Way Scriptures."
Hypocrite!
And don't even try going there, watch how your Taqiyya Bid'ah backfires!...
John 14:16-17
And 👉I will ask the Father👈, and he will give you another Helper,
👉to be with you forever,👈
the Spirit of truth. 👉The world cannot receive Him👈, because it 👉neither sees Him nor knows Him👈. But you do know Him, for
👉He abides with you👈 and
👉will be in you👈.
Was Muhammad with & in the Disciples forever!? 😂 🤣
John 16:7-8
But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go,
👉I will send Him to you.👈
How are both The Father & Jesus sending the Holy Spirit if Jesus isn't Co Equal!?! 🤔
If Mad-ham-mu Glorifies Jesus, either you're claiming Jesus to be Al-Lah, or, it's shirk, which is it!?! 😂 🤣
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You abdools sure do love your strawmen! 😂 🤣
1. Did I mention or dispute the difference between a Disciple and an Apostle! No! Strawman number 1! 😂 🤣
2. Did I claim John the Baptist to be John the Disciple/Apostle, the Son of Zebedee! No! Strawman number 2!
3. Did I mention or even dispute date sof the Gospel of John or the Book of Revelation, is this relevant to the points I've made! No! Strawman number 3! 😂 🤣 🤣
Now, stick to the topic and points I've made, you've tried to discredit our scripture, then same time appeal to our scripture through John and the Book of Revelation,
Your quran, based its claim and your belief, is meant to be the injil, 5:46 affirms that on this claim and basis, the injil is the entire Bible, including Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, AND Paul, this includes, the Gospel of John, and the Book of Revelation!
And this claim was made in the 7th century, so your strawman regarding the dates of the Gospel and the Book of Revelation are irrelevant aka a strawman!
So, you either have to accept the entire Bible, as it is today, as it was in the 7th century, and as your strawman proves, pre date the 7th century when 5:46 was stated, and 5:47 affirms its all authentic, legit, uncorrupted, otherwise, you reject Al-Lah, Mad-ham-mu, and the quran!
This is why you're in a self inflicted catch 22!.....
If you accept our Scripture as authentic, legit, uncorrupted, your cult is busted, reject it, your reject quran based on its claims in 5:46!
Your cult is either busted or you're an apostate, which is it!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
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Pot calling the kettle....!
Your cult, the doctrine, your incoherent contradictory scrapbook, hadiths, tafsirs, are nothing but Taqiyya Bid'ah pick n mix!
You all try to cherry pick verses from the Bible to claim they're true/authentic/valid when you can apply Taqiyya, but any verses that expose and bust your cult and incoherent scrapbook you then claim corruption, even though your incoherent scrapbook, hadiths, tafsirs, mainstream popular accepted credited scholars, all affirm the authenticity of our Scripture, ibn Kathir even affirms Christianity, and the early Churchfathers, which includes their works/publications by default!
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@AlonzoHarris235
Haha, you're struggling and desperately clutching at straws now Alonzo!......
You're claiming that each of the hypostasis are Triune in order to the 3 Hypostasis to be Triune, that's paradoxically oxymoronic!
Furthermore, your Al-Lah doesn't dispute the concept of Triunity, only whether the concept applies to Al-Lah, but who cares, Al-Lah has nothing to do with the Trinity anyway, and if Al-Lah has nothing to do with the Trinity, then your Al-Lah, mo, quran, are busted!
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@AlonzoHarris235
Your question is so flawed it's hilarious!....you're appealing to Modalism like 5:17 & 72, wrong!....
Go on, explain how us saying 3 Hypostasis unified by 1 Divine Nature/Substance/Esscence dictates and necessitates 3 independant Divine Hypostasis being 1 Divine Hypostasis in order to be 1!?!
If there's only 1 Divine hypostasis then regardless of the number of distinct hypostasis claimed in regards to the Divinity, the Divinity always remains as 1 (singular), so it would still be the fact and case that there's one single Divinity (god), Modalists believe in 1 god different modes,
You all believe your god unifies and is one/oneness, so, your logic now goes against you, you cannot claim tawheed/unification/oneness, because that by your logic now dictates and necessitates independant multiplicity, so there's now 99 divinitie attributes and Al-Lah, and your Hadiths affirm these are all independant parts, so, you now have 100 Al-Lahs, oh, but wait, we all have at least one of these divine attributes, so, from Adam to date, every single human hypostasis is another to add to the total number of Al-Lahs,
I'm Al-Lah, your Al-Lah, CP is Al-Lah, David Wood is Al-Lah etc etc!
What a dilemma!
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@FormerKafir
Also, by acknowledging that "The Father" is God, that proves Al-Lah isn't!
7:155-157, Isa and the injil are around during the time of Moses!
Do you seriously believe Jesus Christ was incarnate on earth carrying a book called injil with Disciples, and Christians during the time of Moses!?!
Do you seriously believe that the god of Abraham is the chief god of Abraham's people, the people of Ur, as 6:78 claims and declared by Al-Lah to be Al-Lah!?!
I challenge you right now to go and search who the chief god of Abraham's people was, and that's the name of your god and who your god is, then come back and show me that god in the Bible as "the God/Our God/the God of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, David, Solomon etc etc".
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@FormerKafir
No problem, it states and I quote...
"Al-Lah AND (Arabic wa (conjunctive)) the angels pray".
So, the catch 22, either both are praying to another, or both are co equal, which is it!?!
And if Triunity means plurality, so does tawheed, it's just more problematic for you, because your entire premise depends on the literal hypostatic divinity fallacy instead of the Nature/Substance/Esscence unity that makes the Hypostasis Divine!
Divinity makes God God!
1 Divinity (Nature, Substance, Esscence) unifies 3 Hypostasis, all Hypostasis have 1 same Divinity by default (unification)!
How many Divinities are there!?!
Your Lah,
1 literal "divine" hypostasis!
99 "divine attributes" totalling 100 divinities "unified" into the 1 single "divine" hypostasis!
100 "divinities" in total!.....
Again, Divinity is what makes God God, so, how many gods is your Lah!?!
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@FormerKafir
Also, because our God is Triune (Father, Son, & Holy Spirit) when we pray to one hypostasis we pray to all by default, so that didn't exactly work in your favour now did it!?!
You say the Trinity was made up 400 years after Jesus, well ibn Kathir as just one example refutes you in his 3:56 Arabic Tafsir, henotonky affirms, authenticates, and validates Christianity, but also our Scripture, and the early Churchfathers (their works/publications too by default)!
Even ibn Taymiyyah affirms our Scripture is legit!
So does the quran!
So do your hadiths!
But there's one problem you're still stuck with!......
7:155-157, prove Jesus was in the flesh with a scripture during Moses time!
Prove Jesus worshipped Nanna (6:78 & 36:1)!
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@FormerKafir
Haha, your quran, hadiths, and tafsirs all claim our scripture is legit, your quran claims the injil was with Isa during the time of Moses (7:155-157), prove it!
And because my God is Triune all worship goes to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, if you understood the Trinity you'd have known that, so, seen as you've proven you don't know or understand the Trinity, you're in no position to dictate what the Trinity is or isn't, it's vice versa!
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@AlonzoHarris235
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and here's why.....
The Triune God is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit!
If the Trinity is the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, then Jesus cannot be God alongside the Trinity!
Your logic also dictates that the Father would be Triune as a single Hypostasis and the same would have to apply to the Holy Spirit!
So, your entire premise is based on the claim/logic that triunity means that the Father should be Triune, Jesus should be Triune, and the Holy Spirit should be Triune, in order to claim the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are a Triune God (singular/1)!
That's hilarious! 😂🤣🤣....
So, you've now just claimed and appealed to 3 triune gods unified in order to be one triune god, and your version of a Triune god has now 9 hypostasis, which completely contradicts Triunity in every way, shape, and form!
And this is the premise of your entire claim! 😂🤣
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@AlonzoHarris235
Actually, Triunity proves Jesus can pray to the Father, it's not an issue when God is Triune, like I said, it's problematic for you lot!.....
Are you disputing the Arabic wa being conjunctive, you can check any and all academic sources, did hijab get it wrong when debating David Wood, he said....
"Al-Lah AND the angels pray 'FOR' not 'To'!".
He never disputed the wa, he disputed whether it was "for" or "to" in the Arabic!
Go on, say hijab was wrong, and Mansur, admit they don't know what they're talking about!
And that all dictionaries and lexicons are in error!
Bring all the proof if you're confident in your discrepancy/claim! 😂
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@northstar1690
You don't know Jack diddly squat about plants!....
A male plant flowers in order to release pollen to pollinate female plants!
A female plant flowers in order to be pollinated, because the plant is mature enough to produce offspring (seeds (children))!
The verse/translation states, "passing the flower of her age", this dictates no longer being in her prime, like say at 40 you wouldn't be in your prime like when you were 20,
The fact the "flower" would be referred to as a virgin, meaning untouched by man, this is irrelevant in regards to age/maturity, so the verse is stating that if a mature woman who has remained chaste but is past her prime and a she/a man wish to marry, then there's no sin in doing so!....
So nature has just exposed and busted your fallaciousness, ignorance, and ultracrepidarianism as does 1 Corinthians 7:38 exposes and refutes your fallacy!
Now, 4:3 & 65:4 are explicitly clear, you can marry "orphans", and before you try it, yes, the Arabic uses the word for the prepubescent!
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@AlonzoHarris235
Oh really Alonzo, the evidence proves different!.....
Ask any of my brothers and sisters here if they agree with me that we are more than happy to discuss every single part of our scripture, answer any and all questions, and if we can't, direct/refer someone to where best obtain the answers they seek, because our God, our doctrine, our Scripture Commands and dictates we do so!....
Go on, try and deny we're Commanded to preach, to study our Scripture in order that we can correctly preach, and answer questions!
It's you lot that run from your own book/sources, doctrine, questions, points/claims!....
And now, you and I can put this to the test, I'm the Christian, and I'm right here ready to go, let's see if you're ready, actually can stand your ground!....
Ready!?!
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@northstar1690
So hold on!.....
You're claiming that Deuteronomy 21:10-11 is our God Commanding/Speaking!?!😂🤣🤣.........
"Matthew Henry Commentary
By this law a soldier is allowed to marry his captive if he pleased. For the hardness of their hearts Moses gave them this permission, lest, if they had not had liberty given them to marry such, they should have taken liberty to defile themselves with them, and by such wickedness the camp would have been troubled."
And your response dictates that if a god, or a claimed prophet made/implemented such laws/commands as you described, would be unacceptable today, as much as the 7th century, as much as the time of Moses because you're disputing the law during Moses' time!
Three words for you!.....
Right hand possession!.....
You've just exposed and rejected your own god, leader, cult, doctrine, and book!
Well done, can you say "apostate is me!". 😂🤣
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@northstar1690
That has got absolutely nothing to do with my comment!
Now you say the quran honours all the prophets of Al-Lah, and then claim it clears all the prophets of Al-Lah from what's attributed to them in our Scripture......
Interesting!......
Show me one single Prophet from the Bible that's mentioned in both the quran and Bible as a prophet of Nanna (6:78)!
Show me one single verse in the quran that mentions Jesus Christ/Yahweh!
And 22:52 actually dictates and necessitates that all the prophets of Al-Lah were misguided, and the same verse contradicts 39:37, and that triggers 4:82!
So, your quran not only defeats itself, but also it condemns all its claimed prophets!
Oh, and it doesn't honour all prophets, can you provide the names, provide the scriptures, and which prophet went to which nation in regards to the claimed 124,000, and does the 124,000 include the named prophets in the quran, or are they in addition to the 124,000!?! 🤔
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@coventrypunx1014
Of course, as a Christian, all lives matter irregardless of whether the life is Christian or not, and there is no colour, no race, no ethnicity in Christianity, no heirachy, Christian is Christian, black, white, brown, rich, poor, tall short, thin, large, black hair, blonde hair, grey hair, no hair, handsome, pretty, average, unattractive, the healthy, the sick, all are loved and welcomed by the Lord, after all, He came to save all of us, the many, not just the few!
Our fruits are either ripe and sweet, or bruised and battered! 🙏
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Abdools & Dawahdools need to accept our scripture is authentic, otherwise they're rejecting Al-Lah, Mad-ham-mu, and quran!...
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a "Christian" and used to read the Gospels in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), "What do you see?" When he told him, Waraqa said, "That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly."
Sahih al-Bukhari 3392
In-book: Book 60, Hadith 66
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 605 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Scripture (Jews) used to recite the Torah in Hebrew and they used to explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. On that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Do not believe the people of the Scripture or disbelieve them, but say:-- "We believe in Allah and what is revealed to us." (2:136)
Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 12
Arabic: Book 65, Hadith 4485
2:136 - Sahih International
Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Scripture used to read the Torah in Hebrew and explain it to the Muslims in Arabic. Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Do not believe the people of the Scripture, and do not disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever has been revealed...' (3:84)
Sahih al-Bukhari 7542
In-book: Book 97, Hadith 167
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 93, Hadith 632 (deprecated)
3:84 - Sahih International
Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
5:46 - Sahih International
And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.
5:47 - Sahih International
And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.
5:68 - Sahih International
Say, "O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord." And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people.
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Ibn `Umar:
A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet (ﷺ) asked them. "What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?" They replied, "Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya." `Abdullah bin Salam said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), tell them to bring the Torah." The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, "Lift up your hand." Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah's Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn `Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6819
In-book: Book 86, Hadith 48
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 82, Hadith 809 (deprecated)
'Amir b. Shahr said:
I was with the Negus when his son 👉recited a verse of 👉the Gospel👈. So I laughed👈.
Thereupon he said : 👉Do you laugh at the word of Allah, the Exalted?👈
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud, 4736
In-Book Reference: Book 42, Hadith 141
English Reference: Book 41, Hadith 4718
Chain:
'Amir bin Shhr al-Hmdany
Kuniya is Abu al-Knwd
Lived in cities Hamadan, Kufa
Narrated approximately 2 ahadith
👇
'Amir al-Sha'bi
Kuniya is Abu 'Amr
Born on ~19 AH
Died on ~104 AH
Lived in cities Kufa
Narrated approximately 520 ahadith
👇
Yahya bin Zakaria bin Abi Zaida
Kuniya is Abu Sa'id
Died on 184 AH
Lived in cities Hamadan, al-Kufa
Narrated approximately 104 ahadith
👇
Ibrahim bin Musa al-Razi al-Fara'
Kuniya is Abu Ishaq
Died on after 220 AH
Lived in cities al-Ray'
Narrated approximately 151 ahadith
👇
Isma'il bin 'Umar
Narrated approximately 2 ahadith
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@johndench628
You don't have a clue, let me educate you, again!....
Matthew 5:17-18
👉Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them👈.
For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, 👉not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.👈
👉So then, whoever breaks one of the least of 👉these commandments👈 and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but 👉whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.👈
Here's the Commandments:
👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
You have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not murder’ and ‘Anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be subject to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fire of hell.
So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you,
leave your gift there before the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to depart into hell.
It has also been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, brings adultery upon her. And he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor should you swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black. Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘Hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?
👉Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.👈
John 14:6
Jesus answered, 👉“I am the way and the truth and the life.👈
👉No one comes to the Father except through Me.👈
Galatians 2:16
know that a man is 👉not justified by works of the law👈,
👉but by faith in Jesus Christ👈.
👉So we, too, have 👉believed in Christ Jesus👈,
👉that we may be 👉justified by faith in Christ👈
👉and not👈
👉by works of the law👈,
👉because by works of the law no one will be justified.👈
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@johndench628
See how foolish you're making yourself look, you think you know alot, but you evidently know very little, a wise man talks little and hears alot, an ignoramus waffles ignorance, but hears little! Sadly, you're the latter!.....
"john dench - 6 hours ago
@James D WHEN YOUR DEALING WITH ME YOU BEST BRING VERSES OR YOUR DONE"
See, there's a big difference between confidence and arrogance, again, you're the latter!
YOU need to realise and recognise that you're a small little stickleback in a mighty ocean here, know your place, don't think the title Christian gives you any rights over, or superiotiy amongst the Brothers & Sisters, we will rebuke you and we won't spare the rod in doing so if you don't hear the first time!....
They who shall not hear, shall feel!
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@AlonzoHarris235
Oh really Alonzo, so, you're appealing to hypostatic divinity in order for your claim to stand, as in, you believe that the physical hypostasis is divine in itself, and that applies to Al-Lah by default, so,
Al-Lah has a divine hypostasis, but also divine attributes, so, your Al-Lah is multiple divinities in one divine hypostasis!
That doesn't apply to the Trinity (Trinity (1 Divine Nature/Substance/Esscence that unifies all 3 Hypostasis, and that Divine Nature/Substance/Esscence is what makes all 3 Hypostasis Divine)), I challenge you you to prove your logic and refute the Triune Logic, seen as you've made the claim!
And, 15:51-66 dictates that your Al-Lah is either 3-4,which is it!?! 😂
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@alonzoharris6730
You're busted and you know it!
Isaiah 12:2
Surely 👉God (’êl - אֵ֧ל ) is my
Salvation (yə-šū-‘ā-ṯî - יְשׁוּעָתִ֛י)👈; I will trust and not be afraid.
For 👉the LORD (Yahweh, - יְהוָ֔ה) GOD (Yāh - יָ֣הּ)👈 is my strength and my song, and
👉He also has become my Salvation (lî·šū·‘āh - לִֽישׁוּעָ֑ה).”👈
yə·šu·‘ā·ṯî (יְשׁוּעָתִ֛י)
lî·šū·‘āh (לִֽישׁוּעָ֑ה)
3444. yeshuah
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
deliverance, health, helping, salvation, save, saving health, welfare
Brown-Driver-Briggs
יְשׁוּעָה noun feminine salvation; — ׳יְשׁ
3 salvation by God, primarily from external evils, but often with added spiritual idea.
Now accept, concede, and provide the verse in the Torah where supposedly your pagan Sabian Ahmed/Ahmad is meant to be in the Torah, then we can discuss Job 30:15 no problem!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
To claim the Trinity as "3 Gods" is an oxymoron, you've already proven you think each hypostasis is Triune, which is an oxymoron, and this dictates now that either you concede that your claim is fallacious, or you prove that there's 3 Fathers as One Father, 3 Jesus' as One Jesus, and 3 Holy Spirits as One Holy Spirit!....
Back your claim up, provide the evidence! 😂 🤣
And in addition, you've already agreed with me that Yahweh and Al-Lah aren't the same, 9:29 & 29:46 affirm it, so whether our God is Triune or not is irrelevant when your Al-Lah isn't our God, and is exposed and busted by the Quran by default, oh the irony!! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
You say "the Biblical God", so you admit that the God of the Bible isn't Al-Lah, so Al-Lah is a liar and your Quran along with Al-Lah and the pagan Sabian simpleton are all false!.....Thanks for affirming that fact and agreeing with us!....
Your Al-Lah claims to be Nanna/Sin, and Nanna Sin is a single hypostasis, but your Al-Lah and s multiples too,
Al-Lah has multiple independent "divine" nature's, your Al-Lah prays to another, inherits from another, and alongside others, your Al-Lah is bith wahid and Ahad, so based on the Islamic claim, that the Quran is meant to be the word of Al-Lah, you don't even have one single Al-Lah speaking in the Quran, and don't know which Al-Lah at any one time is speaking!
You don't even know what the names of all the Al-Lah's are, an attribute isn't a name!
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@Theo_Skeptomai
Ooo, I posted a typo, and you seem to think your semantics make any difference to the context! 😂🤣
Aww, I've corrected my typo, there, are you happy now, will you stop crying now, or do you want to spit your dummy and throw your toys out of your pram, climb out, and throw yourself on the floor and have a terrible two's tantrum! Grow up!...
Oh, and the irony, you need to work on your grammar, you don't use exclamation and question marks at the beginning of a statement and sentence!....
So maybe you should focus on your grammar rather than the typos of others!
You've embarrassed yourself! 😂🤣
😂🤣
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@bdbestxyzIII
Matthew 12:50 just got you busted abdool, Jesus, as you've quoted, states that God is His Father "My Father"!
You're so ignorant and a doughnut that you didn't even read the verse you appealed to and quoted, it instantly exposes and refutes your ignorant fallacy! 😂 🤣 🤣
And Elisabeth being called daughter of Aaron, because she's a Levite from the tribe of Levi, is another fallacy, unless Mary now is Elisabeth and vice versa! 😂 🤣
I have a cousin in America, does that make me American now, no, of course it doesn't!....So Mary having a Levite cousin doesn't help your ignorant mistaken Quran!
Show me where Mary is once called a daughter or sister of Aaron, or Levi in the Bible, and prove to me that Mary and Jesus were alive with a written Bible at the time of Moses like your Quran claims about Maryam, Isa, and the injil!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@johndench628
Looks like I'll have to keep posting this until it sinks into that thick skull of yours!.....
Jeremiah 3:31-34
Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD,
👉when I will make a new covenant👈
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
👉It will not be like the covenant
I made with their fathers👈
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of the land of Egypt—
a covenant they broke,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the LORD.
“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD.
👉I will put My law in their minds
and inscribe it on their hearts.👈
And I will be their God,
and they will be My people.
No longer will each man teach his neighbor or his brother,
saying, ‘Know the LORD,’
because they will all know Me,
from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD.
For I will forgive their iniquities
and will remember their sins no more.”
Romans 2:25-29
Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. If a man who is not circumcised keeps the requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? The one who is physically uncircumcised yet keeps the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and 👉circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code👈. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.
Matthew 5:17-18
👉Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them👈.
For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, 👉not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.👈
👉So then, whoever breaks one of the least of 👉these commandments👈 and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but 👉whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.👈
Here's the Commandments:
👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
You have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not murder’ and ‘Anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be subject to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fire of hell.
So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you,
leave your gift there before the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to depart into hell.
It has also been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, brings adultery upon her. And he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor should you swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black. Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘Hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?
👉Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.👈
John 14:6
Jesus answered, 👉“I am the way and the truth and the life.👈
👉No one comes to the Father except through Me.👈
Galatians 2:16
know that a man is 👉not justified by works of the law👈,
👉but by faith in Jesus Christ👈.
👉So we, too, have 👉believed in Christ Jesus👈,
👉that we may be 👉justified by faith in Christ👈
👉and not👈
👉by works of the law👈,
👉because by works of the law no one will be justified.👈
Romans 2:2
And we know that 👉God’s judgment👈 against those who do such things 👉is based on truth.👈
Romans 2:6-8
God “will repay each one according to his deeds.” 👉To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger.👈
Romans 2:14-16
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, 👉do by nature what the law requires👈, they are a law to themselves, 👉even though they do not have the law👈.
👉So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts👈, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them on the day when 👉God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel.👈
James 2:14-26
👉What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions?👈 Can that kind of faith save anyone? Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
So you see, 👉faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless 👉it👈 produces good deeds👈, it is dead and useless.
Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? 👉I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”👈
👉You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?👈
Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 👉You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete.👈 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: 👉“Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God👈. So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 👉Just as the body is dead without breath, so also
👉faith👈 is dead without good works.👈
Is your faith in God or the Law of God!?!
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See how quick your explanation has changed from it was 7th century to the times of Moses and Jesus, however, you forgot about the other verses I've referenced, and they affirm present day 7th century, not as you're trying to claim, so who/what is right, you, or the quran, and also, here's how your Taqiyya has led you to an even worse dilemma!.....
7:155-157 affirms that the injil was from the time of Moses, where the injil is, again, you affirmed it, Isa was, and then there's the fact that there's no mention of Jesus Christ in the entire quran, show me a single verse stating Yasue Al-Masih!
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@SaadI0I
First off, I don't care which or what sect you are, you're Muslim!
Second of all, Google schmoogle!..
Where in the Quran does it mention يسوع المسيح (Yasue Al-Masih (Yeshua the Messiah))!?!....
Ahmed Deedat - The Choice Vol 1 & 2 - Page 52
Deedat claims Isa is a translation of Esau NOT Yeshua!
Where in the Bible is there mention of Esau/Isa the Levite Son of Maryam, nephew of Moses (19:28 & 66:12)!?!....
Where in the Bible does it state Jesus Christ to be known by the name Esau/Isa and to be from the tribe of Levi!?!
How can Isa/Esau be Jesus Christ when Isa/Esau is hanging around with an injil during the time of Moses (7155-157)!?!
Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril
Life Of Isa
Page 1
Prophet Isa's Mentioned is noted in 10 different situations in the Quran. There is even an entire chapter (surah) named after Isa's mother, Maryam alyaha salam, as well as his grandparents Al-Imran alayahum asalam, who were chosen over all mankind. This Surat, Surat Al-Imran also reveals the story of Maryam alyaha salam, it outlines a description of her lineage and upbringing. It also relates the pure conception and birth of Isa alayhe salam.
Isa/Esau can't be Jesus Christ, wrong Name, wrong time, wrong tribe!....
Who is Isa/Esau!?!
And you don't respect us or our religion, you've done nothing but blaspheme against my God and disrespect our scripture with your fallacious Taqiyya!
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@Michael-ec4qb
4:3
وَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تُقۡسِطُواْ فِي 👈ٱلۡيَتَٰمَىٰ👉 فَٱنكِحُواْ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلنِّسَآءِ مَثۡنَىٰ وَثُلَٰثَ وَرُبَٰعَۖ فَإِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ أَلَّا تَعۡدِلُواْ فَوَٰحِدَةً أَوۡ مَا مَلَكَتۡ أَيۡمَٰنُكُمۡۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدۡنَىٰٓ أَلَّا تَعُولُواْ
English Transliteration
Wa-in khiftum alla tuqsitoo
👉feealyatama👈 fankihoo ma tabalakum mina annisa-i mathna wathulathawarubaAAa fa-in khiftum alla taAAdiloo fawahidatanaw ma malakat aymanukum thalika adnaalla taAAooloo
Ya-Ta-Miim = orphan, fatherless, become isolated or lonely, solitary, weary, jaded, become widow, become without father
👉before puberty/maturity.👈
yatim n.m. (pl. yatama) 2:83, 2:177, 2:215, 2:220, 4:2, 👉4:3👈, 4:6, 4:8, 4:10, 4:36, 4:127, 4:127, 6:152, 8:41, 17:34, 18:82, 59:7, 76:8, 89:17, 90:15, 93:6, 93:9, 107:2
Sahih International
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the 👉orphan girls👈, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
Ibn Kathir Tafsir (4:3)
بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْمِ
وَاِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ اَلَّا تُقۡسِطُوۡا فِى الۡيَتٰمٰى فَانْكِحُوۡا مَا طَابَ لَـكُمۡ مِّنَ النِّسَآءِ مَثۡنٰى وَثُلٰثَ وَرُبٰعَ ۚ فَاِنۡ خِفۡتُمۡ اَلَّا تَعۡدِلُوۡا فَوَاحِدَةً اَوۡ مَا مَلَـكَتۡ اَيۡمَانُكُمۡ ؕ ذٰ لِكَ اَدۡنٰٓى اَلَّا تَعُوۡلُوۡا
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلاَّ تُقْسِطُواْ فِي الْيَتَامَى فَانكِحُواْ مَا طَابَ لَكُم مِّنَ النِّسَاء
And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry (other) women of your choice,
Allah commands, when one of you is the caretaker of a female orphan and he fears that he might not give her a dowry that is suitable for women of her status, he should marry other women, who are plenty as Allah has not restricted him.
Al-Bukhari recorded that Aishah said,
"A man was taking care of a female orphan and he married her, although he did not desire to marry her. That girl's money was mixed with his, and he was keeping her portion from her. Afterwards, this Ayah was revealed about his case;
وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلاَّ تُقْسِطُواْ
If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly..."
Al-Bukhari recorded that Urwah bin Az-Zubayr said that;
he asked Aishah about the meaning of the statement of Allah,
وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلاَّ تُقْسِطُواْ فِي الْيَتَامَى
(If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls).
She said, "O my nephew! This is about the orphan girl who lives with her guardian and shares his property. Her wealth and beauty may tempt him to marry her without giving her an adequate dowry which might have been given by another suitor. So, such guardians were forbidden to marry such orphan girls unless they treated them justly and gave them the most suitable dowry; otherwise they were ordered to marry woman besides them."
Aishah further said,
"After that verse, the people again asked the Messenger of Allah (about marriage with orphan girls), so Allah revealed the Ayah,
وَيَسْتَفْتُونَكَ فِي النِّسَاء
(They ask your instruction concerning the women..)." (4:127)
She said,
"Allah's statement in this Ayah,
وَتَرْغَبُونَ أَن تَنكِحُوهُنَّ
(yet whom you desire to marry) (4:127) refers to the guardian who does not desire to marry an orphan girl under his supervision because she is neither wealthy nor beautiful. The guardians were forbidden to marry their orphan girls possessing property and beauty without being just to them, as they generally refrain from marrying them (when they are neither beautiful nor wealthy)."
The Permission to Marry Four Women
Allah's statement,
مَثْنَى
وَثُلَثَ وَرُبَاعَ
two or three, or four,
means, marry as many women as you like, other than the orphan girls, two, three or four.
We should mention that Allah's statement in another Ayah,
جَاعِلِ الْمَلَايِكَةِ رُسُلًا أُولِي أَجْنِحَةٍ مَّثْنَى وَثُلَاثَ وَرُبَاعَ
(Who made the angels messengers with wings, - two or three or four), (35:1), does not mean that other angels do not have more than four wings, as there are proofs that some angels do have more wings. Yet, men are prohibited from marrying more than four wives, as the Ayah decrees, since the Ayah specifies what men are allowed of wives, as Ibn Abbas and the majority of scholars stated. If it were allowed for them to have more than four wives, the Ayah would have mentioned it.
Imam Ahmad recorded that Salim said that his father said that;
Ghilan bin Salamah Ath-Thaqafi had ten wives when he became Muslim, and the Prophet said to him, "Choose any four of them (and divorce the rest)."
During the reign of Umar, Ghilan divorced his remaining wives and divided his money between his children.
When Umar heard news of this, he said to Ghilan, "I think that the devil has conveyed to your heart the news of your imminent death, from what the devil hears during his eavesdropping. It may as well be that you will not remain alive but for a little longer. By Allah! You will take back your wives and your money, or I will take possession of this all and will order that your grave be stoned as is the case with the grave of Abu Righal (from Thamud, who was saved from their fate because he was in the Sacred Area. But, when he left it, he was tormented like they were)."
Ash-Shafi`i, At-Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, Ad-Daraqutni and Al-Bayhaqi collected this Hadith up to the Prophet's statement, "Choose any four of them."
Only Ahmad collected the full version of this Hadith.
Therefore, had it been allowed for men to marry more than four women at the same time, the Prophet would have allowed Ghilan to keep more than four of his wives since they all embraced Islam with him. When the Prophet commanded him to keep just four of them and divorce the rest, this indicated that men are not allowed to keep more than four wives at a time under any circumstances. If this is the case concerning those who already had more than four wives upon embracing Islam, then this ruling applies even more so to marrying more than four.
Marrying Only One Wife When One Fears He Might not Do Justice to His Wives
Allah's statement,
فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلاَّ تَعْدِلُواْ فَوَاحِدَةً أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ
But if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or what your right hands possess.
The Ayah commands, if you fear that you will not be able to do justice between your wives by marrying more than one, then marry only one wife, or satisfy yourself with only female captives, for it is not obligatory to treat them equally, rather it is recommended. So if one does so, that is good, and if not, there is no harm on him.
In another Ayah, Allah said,
وَلَن تَسْتَطِيعُواْ أَن تَعْدِلُواْ بَيْنَ النِّسَأءِ وَلَوْ حَرَصْتُمْ
You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire. (4:129)
Allah said,
ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَلاَّ تَعُولُواْ
That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu,
meaning, from doing injustice.
Ibn Abi Hatim, Ibn Marduwyah and Abu Hatim Ibn Hibban, in his Sahih, recorded that Aishah said that,
the Prophet said that the Ayah,
ذَلِكَ أَدْنَى أَلاَّ تَعُولُواْ
(That is nearer to prevent you from Ta`ulu, means, from doing injustice.
However, Ibn Abi Hatim said that his father said that this Hadith to the Prophet is a mistake, for it should be attributed to Aishah not the Prophet.
Ibn Abi Hatim reported from Ibn Abbas, Mujahid, Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Abu Malik, Abu Razin, An-Nakhai, Ash-Sha`bi, Ad-Dahhak, Ata Al-Khurasani, Qatadah, As-Suddi and Muqatil bin Hayyan that;
Ta`ulu means to deviate (from justice).
Giving the Dowry is Obligatory
Allah says;
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@Michael-ec4qb
Thanks, I'm over the initial symptoms, just shaking off the aftermath!....
And the info proves child marriage is commanded and sanctioned in the Quran,
So, that's the point, and God would never sanction or command such evil!....
Now the question you could ask is if the opponent agrees that child marriage is wrong, approach it like that, because your intent is for the Muslim to realise this is in their Quran, and majority of Muslims you meet, you ask them that, of course they're going to agree it's wrong, evil,
Then you show them the info, and this proves that Aisha too was a little girl, she wasn't mature for her age as they try and claim, because little girls are being defined as adult women!
There's plenty of Muslims that when they realise they've been misled and lied to, and they in themselves can't ever condone such evil, end up apostasising!
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@Michael-ec4qb
I'd say start with the Quran reference and the Arabic root dictionary, that alone proves the point,
The Tafsir supports the point!
So start with 4:3, you show that, then most likely the hiding behind Arabic game will start, so you then shut that down with the dictionary,
And finally the Tafsir affirms the point,
All in all, you prove the point and what the Quran says, that the Arabic and translation are accurate, and the Doctrine in the Tafsir supports and affirms it all!
There's no refuting it, it's right there, so the Muslim has to deal with that as fact, and assuming they're a decent human being, they will be disgusted, and it's for them then to deal with the issue exposed,
Do they want to follow a cult like this, follow a man like Muhammad who married 6yr old Aisha, consummated the marriage at 9, and both Al-Lah and Muhammad are saying go marry prepubescent orphans!
The only other way it can go is the Muslim actually agrees and is pro child marriage, and then that's an admission to being a risk and danger to children, a paedo-phile!
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@Michael-ec4qb
Brother I've had a thought, now because you mentioned approaching Dawah stalls to debate Muslims, I think it would help to maybe first get a feel for, and an experience of debating Muslims in a comments section,
Now what I'm more than happy to do is, if you find a video and a comment you think would be worthy of debating the statement, I'd happily have a debate with the muslim so you can watch and see, get an idea how to debate them, and then when you felt ready, you could start debating them, and that would give you alot of confidence when then approaching them at Dawah stalls, because you'd have a feel for their script, and be able to easily start exposing it and islam!
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As long as I receive a notification I will always reply, I say that only because I'm only on my mobile, and on the odd occasion, usually if there's a long thread, I don't always get the notification!
I'd say if you at anytime didn't get a response in an hour or two, then maybe give me a nudge comment, and I'm in UK, just so if you're in a different time zone, then you know if it's say really late at night, or early hours of the morning, obvs might be asleep,
They're the only reasons as to why I may be delayed or not responded straight back in an hour or two!
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Here's a nice easy one for you to use brother, you'll have some fun with this one!......
Surah Zilzal tafseer
Hadith related by Imam Suyuti which states:
“When God Almighty wanted to create Himself, He created the horse first and let it gallop till it sweated. Then He created Himself from its sweat.
Abu Hurayra narrated:
It was said, “O Messenger of God, from what is our Lord?
He said, “From water not of earth, nor of the heavens. He created a horse and made it run. It sweated, and he created himself from that sweat.”
How did Al-Lah create the horse that sweat to create Al-Lah if Al-Lah is one, what was Al-Lah creating and what was Al-Lah while creating Al-Lah,
How Al-Lah can create Al-Lah Al-Lah's self and be eternal, uncreated! Was Al-Lah the horse and then created Al-Lah from Al-Lah's own sweat, does this sound befitting for a god that's one, alone, uncreated, eternal!?!
Was the horse not eternal too if it was created before Al-Lah in order for Al-Lah to be created from the horse sweat, who created the horse!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
Now they'll outright reject the Hadiths as false, fabrications, and the second they do, then they've just discredited the entire chains of narration claim as untrustworthy, anything and everything becomes suspect, questionable, and that includes the Quran, because the "perfect preservation" claim is dependant on a flawless chains of narration! 😂 🤣
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@you what
Your ignorance is shocking!....
You've just affirmed that the Holy Spirit is co equal and Commanding as Yahweh! You've just busted your own cult for us and proven duality, all we need to now prove is Jesus' co equality and then bingo bango we have Triunity!....
So, Revelation 1:1, is Jesus God or the Angel of God who declared He is God in Genesis 31:13!?!
Guess what, Trinity/Triunity has just been proven, and you assisted in proving it, from our Scripture, which dictates that you've assisted in the exposing and busting of your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, quran, and cult! 😂🤣
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Definitions alone expose and spank you!....
👉If what makes God God is👈....
Being:
The state or quality of having existence: synonym: existence.
The totality of all things that exist.
A person.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1 a: the quality or state of having existence.
b(1): something that is conceivable and hence capable of existing
(2): something that actually exists
(3): the totality of existing things
c: conscious existence: Life
2: the qualities that constitute an existent thing: Essence Personality
3: a living thing sentient beings a mythical being: Person
Merriam Webster
1. The state or quality of having existence: technical advances that have only recently come into being. See Synonyms at existence.
2. The totality of all things that exist: theologians who hold that the mind of God is the source of all being.
3.
a. A person: "The artist after all is a solitary being" (Virginia Woolf).
b. An individual form of life; an organism: "We [humans] are the only beings who are aware that we shall die" (Seyyed Hossein Nasr).
c. An imaginary, conjectural, or supernatural creature: extraterrestrial beings.
4.
a. All the qualities constituting one that exists; the essence: the very being of human nature.
b. One's basic or essential nature: "[My grandfather's] face, words and gestures are a permanent part of my being" (Duane Nitatum).
conj. Chiefly Southern US, Upper Southern US, & New England
Because; since. Often used with as or that.
The Free Dictionary
a person or thing that exists:
The Cambridge Dictionary
Being is the present participle of be1
Collins Dictionary
the fact of existing; existence (as opposed to nonexistence).
conscious, mortal existence; life
substance or nature
something that exists
a living thing
Dictionary. Com
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉Then we first have to establish what is
the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉And how many 👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉There are👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉If it is established that the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
👉Is NOT to be hypostatic, but identified and established as something else, then by default the number of the hypostasis becomes irrelevant, and therefore to claim hypostatic orientation becomes a strawman, as the hypostasis and any number of the hypostasis involved are irrelevant in regards to the👈
Definition of Divine:
Of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God
Merriam Webster
This includes by default......
Definition of Self:
The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual.
The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another; individuality.
One's consciousness of one's own being or identity; the ego.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1a (1): an individual's typical character or behavior
her true self was revealed
(2): an individual's temporary behavior or character
his better self
b: a person in prime condition
feel like my old self today
2: the union of elements (such as body, emotions, thoughts, and sensations) that constitute the individuality and identity of a person
Merriam Webster
the set of someone's characteristics, such as personality and ability, that are not physical and make that person different from other people
Cambridge Dictionary
1. The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual.
2. The essential qualities distinguishing one person from another; individuality.
3. One's consciousness of one's own being or identity; the ego.
4. One's own interests, welfare, or advantage.
5. Immunology That which the immune system identifies as belonging to the body: tissues no longer recognized as self.
The Free Dictionary
noun, plural selves [selvz].
a person or thing referred to with respect to complete individuality: one's own self.
a person's nature, character, etc.
Philosophy:
the ego; that which knows, remembers, desires, suffers, etc., as contrasted with that known, remembered, etc.
the uniting principle, as a soul, underlying all subjective experience.
Definition of consciousness:
The state or condition of being conscious.
A sense of one's personal or collective identity, including the attitudes, beliefs, and sensitivities held by or considered characteristic of an individual or group.
Special awareness or sensitivity.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
1a: the quality or state of being aware especially of something within oneself.
b: the state or fact of being conscious of an external object, state, or fact.
c: AWARENESS
especially : concern for some social or political cause.
The organization aims to raise the political consciousness of teenagers.
2: the state of being characterized by sensation, emotion, volition, and thought : MIND
3: the totality of conscious states of an individual.
4: the normal state of conscious life
regained consciousness.
5: the upper level of mental life of which the person is aware as contrasted with unconscious processes.
Merriam Webster
the state of understanding and realizing something
the state of being awake, thinking, and knowing what is happening around you.
Cambridge Dictionary
the state of being conscious; awareness of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, surroundings, etc.
the thoughts and feelings, collectively, of an individual or of an aggregate of people.
full activity of the mind and senses, as in waking life.
awareness of something for what it is; internal knowledge.
concern, interest, or acute awareness.
the mental activity of which a person is aware as contrasted with unconscious mental processes.
Philosophy. the mind or the mental faculties as characterized by thought, feelings, and volition.
Dictionary. Com
consciousness [kon´shus-nes]
1. the state of being conscious; fully alert, aware, oriented, and responsive to the environment.
2. subjective awareness of the aspects of cognitive processing and the content of the mind.
3. the current totality of experience of which an individual or group is aware at any time.
4. in psychoanalysis, the conscious.
5. in Newman's conceptual model, health as expanding consciousness, the informational capacity of the human system, or its capacity for interacting with the environment; consciousness is considered to be coextensive with the universe, residing in all matter.
Medical Dictionary
Definition of Will:
1. The mental faculty by which one deliberately chooses or decides upon a course of action: championed freedom of will against a doctrine of predetermination.
2.
a. Diligent purposefulness; determination: an athlete with the will to win.
b. Self-control; self-discipline: lacked the will to overcome the addiction.
3. A desire, purpose, or determination, especially of one in authority: It is the sovereign's will that the prisoner be spared.
4. Deliberate intention or wish: Let it be known that I took this course of action against my will.
5. Free discretion; inclination or pleasure: wandered about, guided only by will.
6. Bearing or attitude toward others; disposition: full of good will.
The free dictionary
👉Can a human being be a person, or are they 2, seperate persons!?!....Let's take a look shall we!👈.....
Definition of a human being:
A human.
A person; a large sapient, bipedalprimate, with notably less hair than others of that order, of the species Homo sapiens.
Another, extinct member of the genus Homo
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
Human
Merriam Webster
a member of any of the races of Homo sapiens; person; man, woman, or child
1. any individual of the genus Homo, esp. a member of the species Homo sapiens.
2. a person, esp. as distinguished from other animals or as representing the human species: conditions not fit for human beings.
The Free Dictionary
A person
Cambridge Dictionary
A human being is a human child or adult.
Collins Dictionary
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@michaelwilcox8187
Prove me wrong!.....
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him.
But Jesus answered them,
“To this very day 👉My Father👈 is at His work, and I too am working.”
👉Because of this👈,
👉the Jews tried all the harder to kill
Him👈.
Not only was He breaking the Sabbath,
but
👉He was even calling God His own
Father👈,
👉making Himself equal with
God.👈
John 13:12-14
When Jesus had washed their feet and put on His outer garments, He reclined with them again and asked, “Do you know what I have done for you?
👉You call Me👈 Teacher
👉and Lord (Κύριος)👈,
👉and rightly so, because I am👈.
👉So if I, your Lord (Κύριος)👈 and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet.
Philo was more fluent in Greek than in Hebrew and read the Jewish Scriptures chiefly from the Septuagint,
Philo, consistently uses Κύριος as a designation for God!
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@aaronharun1394H
Let's explore your logic, you appeal to 29:46, that's blatantly clear & evident, you think that Al-Lah & Yahweh are one & the same, & that Jews & Christians always worshipped Al-Lah, & Christians have associated Isa, who you think is Jesus, with Al-Lah, & you're trying to get us to see that we should upgrade from Isa to muhammad and only worship Al-Lah, correct, have I got clarity in regards to your logic & intent, hence why you desperately appeal to the Arabic translation of the Bible to claim it mentions Al-Lah as the word "God", keep trying to connect our scripture and quran together!?!
You can't hide behind defamatory claims I'm being disingenuine or dishonest this time round!
Let's clarify your logic, here's your chance to correct where I'm wrong if anywhere, to ensure clarity regarding exactly what your logic, intent and belief is, you want to do Dawah, here's your chance!
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@aaronharun1394H
That's nice, but irrelevant to my response, you're simply proving to everyone that you don't have any knowledge when it comes to Christianity and the cult of Islam, and all you do to run and hide, is hide behind this pathetic defamatory response!
So, seen as you're proving to everyone that you can't handle even a discussion about your belief and faith, proving the lack of and insecurity by default,
9:29 refutes your entire claim and belief, and also contradicts 29:46, unless you accept 9:29 Al-Lah admits that Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, our God, and our God is 1, but our God isn't Al-Lah, and that's what you're commanded to believe via 29:46!
Game over whether you want to engage with my point or just keep on hiding behind your defamations! 😂
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@aaronharun1394H
9:29 refutes your entire understanding and claim!
Al-Lah says Christians didn't and don't believe in Al-Lah, and Muhammad, so in 29:46, to avoid the contradiction which would be claiming that it means same Al-Lah and belief in Al-Lah, then we don't believe in Al-Lah in 9:29, you have to accept that it means your Al-Lah is one, and our God Yahweh is One,
But this still holds a contradiction, because Al-Lah now can't be Yahweh, the Father, God of Abraham, our Prophets and scripture, the Disciples/Apostles, us,
Isa can't be Jesus Christ, because Jesus is the Son of Yahweh the Father incarnate, from the tribe of Judah, whereas Isa is Arabic for the name Esau, and your Esau is from the tribe of Levi from the time of Moses, and claimed to be nephew to Moses and Aaron!
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@johndench628
You're blinded by your arrogance and pride!.......
Jeremiah 3:31-34
Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD,
👉when I will make a new covenant👈
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
👉It will not be like the covenant
I made with their fathers👈
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of the land of Egypt—
a covenant they broke,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the LORD.
“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD.
👉I will put My law in their minds
and inscribe it on their hearts.👈
And I will be their God,
and they will be My people.
No longer will each man teach his neighbor or his brother,
saying, ‘Know the LORD,’
because they will all know Me,
from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD.
For I will forgive their iniquities
and will remember their sins no more.”
Romans 2:25-29
Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. If a man who is not circumcised keeps the requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? The one who is physically uncircumcised yet keeps the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.
A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and 👉circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code👈. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God.
Matthew 5:17-18
👉Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them👈.
For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, 👉not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.👈
👉So then, whoever breaks one of the least of 👉these commandments👈 and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but 👉whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.👈
Here's the Commandments:
👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇
You have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not murder’ and ‘Anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be subject to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fire of hell.
So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you,
leave your gift there before the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise, he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to depart into hell.
It has also been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, brings adultery upon her. And he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor should you swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black. Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘Hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?
👉Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.👈
John 14:6
Jesus answered, 👉“I am the way and the truth and the life.👈
👉No one comes to the Father except through Me.👈
Galatians 2:16
know that a man is 👉not justified by works of the law👈,
👉but by faith in Jesus Christ👈.
👉So we, too, have 👉believed in Christ Jesus👈,
👉that we may be 👉justified by faith in Christ👈
👉and not👈
👉by works of the law👈,
👉because by works of the law no one will be justified.👈
Romans 2:2
And we know that 👉God’s judgment👈 against those who do such things 👉is based on truth.👈
Romans 2:6-8
God “will repay each one according to his deeds.” 👉To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow wickedness, there will be wrath and anger.👈
Romans 2:14-16
Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, 👉do by nature what the law requires👈, they are a law to themselves, 👉even though they do not have the law👈.
👉So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts👈, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them on the day when 👉God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel.👈
James 2:14-26
👉What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions?👈 Can that kind of faith save anyone? Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
So you see, 👉faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless 👉it👈 produces good deeds👈, it is dead and useless.
Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? 👉I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”👈
👉You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?👈
Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 👉You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete.👈 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: 👉“Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God👈. So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 👉Just as the body is dead without breath, so also
👉faith👈 is dead without good works.👈
Is your faith in God or the Law of God!?!
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@ahmadmuzakkir6792
That's not Jesus, that's Isa/Esau the Levite nephew of Moses (7:155-157, 19:28, Surah 3 (Al-Imran),
Ahmed Deedat - The Choice Vol 1 & 2 - Page 52
Deedat claims Isa is a translation of Esau NOT Yeshua!
Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril
Life Of Isa
Page 1
Prophet Isa's Mentioned is noted in 10 different situations in the Quran. There is even an entire chapter (surah) named after Isa's mother, Maryam alyaha salam, as well as his grandparents Al-Imran alayahum asalam, who were chosen over all mankind. This Surat, Surat Al-Imran also reveals the story of Maryam alyaha salam, it outlines a description of her lineage and upbringing. It also relates the pure conception and birth of Isa alayhe salam.
I said show me Jesus in the quran, Jesus is from the tribe of Judah, and has to be in order to be THE Messiah, and Jesus wasn't once called, or referred to, as Esau, also, Jesus wasn't incarnate at the time of Moses!
Show me where in the quran it mentions يسوع المسيح (Yasue Al-Masih (Yeshua the Messiah))!?!
😂 🤣 🤣
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@marjan.f7441
Oh dear, you want a spanking too I see, I'd hate to disappoint!.....
Matthew affirms Jesus is Immanuel, what does Immanuel mean!?! 😂 🤣
Matthew also affirms Jesus is the Son of God, as do Mark, Luke, and John!
They all affirm the crucifixion!
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John also affirm that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah not Levi, so that's your Al-Lah, Isa, Quran, pagan Sabian, cult, busted! 😂 🤣 🤣
And you've also affirmed that in John, Jesus is identified as Divine aka God, and as you believe in the Quran, you have to accept 2:89, 5:46-47, & 10:29 that affirm our scripture is authentic, the truth, uncorrupted,
So you're now in a catch 22 and your cult is busted! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@SamA-xu9gy
You've just exposed and proven your ignorant ultracrepidarianism, you don't know Jack diddly squat about Jesus Christ, the Crucifixion, Christianity, our scripture!
And you rely on a limited black stone, that's no longer stone but a few pebbledash fragments to absolve your sins!
And you say there's no sin in jannah on the basis that you can sin and there's no resolvement/absolving of sin because it's claimed to become exempt!
So sharia being Al-Lah's law, Al-Lah changes Al-Lah's laws and is fickle!
But also, because the sins in jannah are still sins, the exemption doesn't change that fact, Where's your unlimited to resolve/absolve sin!?!
Remember, with an exemption in place, Al-Lah by default can't forgive sin becUe the sin is exempt, but the sin is still present via your sinful acts in jannah! 😂 🤣
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Narrated `Abdullah bin `Abbas:
Once a solar eclipse occurred during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ).
👉 He offered the eclipse prayer.👈 His companions asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We saw you trying to take something while standing at your place and then we saw you retreating." 👉The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "I was shown Paradise and wanted to have a bunch of fruit from it.👈 Had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 748
In-book reference : Book 10, Hadith 142
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 1, Book 12, Hadith 715 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Sunan Abi Dawud » The Book Of The Prayer For Rain (Kitab al-Istisqa')
Narrated Abd Allah b. 'Abbas:
👉The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) prayed👈👉at the solar eclipse👈 as reported in the tradition narrated by 'Urwah from Aishah from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) that he offered two rak'ahs of prayer bowing twice in each rak'ah.
Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني)حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 1181
In-book reference : Book 3, Hadith 21
English translation : Book 3, Hadith 1177
Sunan Abi Dawud » The Book Of The Prayer For Rain (Kitab al-Istisqa')
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ)
👉prayed at solar eclipse👈; he recited from the Qur'an and then bowed; then he recited from the Qur'an and then bowed; he then recited from the Qur'an and bowed; he then recited from the Qur'an and bowed. Then he prostrated himself and performed the second rak'ah similar to the first.
Grade: Munkar (Al-Albani) منكر (الألباني)حكم :
Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 1183
In-book reference : Book 3, Hadith 23
English translation : Book 3, Hadith 1179
Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Prayers (Salat)
Chapter: whoever offered Salat (prayer) with furnace or fire or any other worshipable thing in front of him but he 👉intended Salat solely for Allah👈
Narrated `Abdullah bin `Abbas:
👉The sun eclipsed👈and Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) 👉offered the eclipse prayer👈 and said, "I have been shown the Hellfire (now) and I never saw a worse and horrible sight than the sight I have seen today."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 431
In-book reference : Book 8, Hadith 81
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 1, Book 8, Hadith 423 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Sahih Muslim » The Book of Prayer - Eclipses
Chapter: The Call For The Eclipse Prayer: "As-Salatu Jami'ah (The Prayer Is Being Assembled)
'Abd al-Rahman b. Samura said:
During the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) I was shooting my arrows in Medina, when an eclipse of the sun took place. I, therefore, threw them away and said, I must see how the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) acts in a solar eclipse today. When I came to him, 👉he had been supplicating with his hands, raised,
👉pronouncing Allah-o-Akbar👈,
👉praising Him, acknowledging that He is One God 👈till the eclipse was over, then he recited two surahs and prayed two rak'ahs.
Reference : Sahih Muslim 913 a
In-book reference : Book 10, Hadith 27
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 4, Hadith 1991 (deprecated numbering scheme)
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@ZeroCelsius777
It's quite simple really "53:19-20"....
Jason asked Where's the Sanaa manuscript in the quran, and then asks what manuscript is used for specific Surahs!
If you have one Quran, then you have 2 problems in the below verse!...
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
1. Mad-ham-mu & Al-Lah are the ones speaking!
2. Al-Lah quotes Mad-ham-mu post statement as a revelation, so it's a Hadith not a revelation, Al-Lah is merely quoting the words of Mad-ham-mu and that's meant to be the revelation, so Al-Lah is quoting Mad-ham-mu to Mad-ham-mu to state what he's already stated!
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@alonzoharris9049
That's a paradoxical strawman! 😂
Your qiraat are based on the diacritical marks that were added to the quran post Uthman, all qurans would only have been the rasm at the time of Uthman and long after, so dialectical differences were verbal not textual, the only preservation you can try and claim is preservation of the rasm, and the fact remains, that by adding the diacritical marks to the quran, creating all the differences, is corruption and Bid'ah, and proves Al-Lah failed to protect the quran as claimed would be done in the quran!
Your claim is that each qiraat is a reading/recitation of one quran, and that all the qiraat include the quran, which dictates that for each qiraat to include the quran, there's differences in the qiraat, which dictates that if there's even the slightest difference in them, in the Arabic, then you have different Arabic qurans and they haven't been perfectly preserved, also, in order for each qiraat to be a reading/recitation of the quran, it has to be a quran in itself, otherwise, what are you reading, Noddy!?!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
Then, if any of the differences do change a word and the meaning of the word and context of the verse, then you have a Theological issue arise like I've provided!
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@alonzoharris9049
Abdool, jokes on you, you've just proven my point perfectly! 😂 🤣 🤣
As I've already pointed out, the dialetical differences could only have been verbal aka oral, NOT textual aka written down, and the fact is, that textually there was only the rasm at the time, no diacritical marks, they were added post uthman aka after uthman died!
That's why, as you agree, that it was oral not written, so your Hadith narrative regarding uthman is exposed and busted!....What was he burning!?! 🤔 😂 🤣 🤣
And as I pointed out, the fact that the diacritical marks were added to the rasm at a later stage, and these are what lead to the different recitations as they dictate what each word is/means from the rasm, you have Bid'ah and corruption, and in addition, as I've proven with 21:4, this has led to Theological problems, and all in all, the Quran is exposed and busted because of the claim that Al-Lah supposedly would protect the quran from all this, Al-Lah failed! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
Also, I'm not claiming the oxymoron you've stated, of course you can read a text or script without oral transmission, if I wrote a book first and then transmitted it orally/verbally, the textual words came before the oral/verbal transmission, and that's what your quran claims, that books were sent down, but quran is only a recitation, you're both affirming that in your Taqiyya defences! 😂 🤣 🤣
Or, I could just distribute the book and through people teaching others how to read, people can read the book without a single orally transmitted word uttered! 😂
Also, the addition of diacritical marks etc to the OT makes no difference to what we state and believe about our scripture, it's all problematic for you and yours! 😂 🤣
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@alonzoharris6730
🚨 Taqiyya! 🚨
I was watching the live streams and saw you with my own eyes challenging Sam shamoun and Bob, Bob even spent part of his livestream imploring you to phone in, have the debate, all you do is make up excuses, one was "I'm with family right now" and Bob pointed out, "well you've got time to comment in the live chat, to challenge, and now suddenly can't fulfil your word!".
And I along with many others were on your case to back your mouth up!
And I've more than exposed and decimated your fallacy, your fallacy dictates that you have 6 Al-Lah's, do you accept that you have 6 Al-Lah's in order to make the 3 God fallacy claim!
Watch how you run when challenged.....
Show me where it states in the Bible, or where a Christian has ever stated 3 Gods!
Provide the proof and evidence that the Mind is the Nature of a human!
You won't do it because you can't do it, and whys that, because you're talking out of your bungholio!
And I'm not talking about debating here, I'm talking about a live debate, let's show everyone who is superior in knowledge, facts, and truth, lets see who silences who,
I've already sweetened the deal for you, you can bring your bf to hold your hand and back you up, makes no difference to me whether I'm debating 1 or 10 of you, I've debated 6 of you at one time, all different topics, all playing your games, and even then, I still dispatched you all like Ip Man and Neo!
I know I'm under your skin, like a splinter in your mind, an itch you just can't scratch, because every single strategy and tactic you've tried to employ to try and play your psy games have come to nought, because I'm a better strategist and tactician!
You can't handle my technique!
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@alonzoharris6730
So you claim, but no proof as usual to back it up, sound familiar, that's your pagan Sabian and scrapbook all over! 😂 🤣
And prove it, debate me, because if you think you can beat Bob and Sam in a debate, then you should have no problem woth taking me on, you should be able to take me down easily, if what you claim is true!
So the question is, why you're so hesitant, so fearful of me!?!
And can you read and understand English, I said that you need to prove that the mind is human nature, it isn't, and you've just proven it!
The mind is consciousness, consciousness is totally different to human nature because human nature is defined as the ways humans behave and act distinctly different to another created living consciousness aka mind aka what distinguishes us from animals! And if this nature is to be distinguished between humans and animals, that dictates that animals have minds and consciousness too,
So, based on your logic, if having a mind is human nature, ipso facto, your logic dictates that every single animal/living thing that has a mind is human, that dictates as I've already stated, you accept that cats, dogs, birds, etc etc, are all human!
😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@bdbestxyzIII
Joke is, Hijab agreed with him, and rightly so, because that's what 33:56 states and means in the Arabic!...
Sad-Lam-Waw = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honour, magnifiy, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
Yusalloona (يصلون) plu. 33:56
Haha, now that's embarrassing when the Christians are having to teach you about your Quran and what it says! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@bdbestxyzIII
Well credit where credits due, at least you admit unbiasedly that it wasn't Hijab's finest hour for you lot,
But the point is serious, think about it, Al-Lah prays......To who!?!
And the irony is, we're going with the Arabic not translations, but even incorporating the translations, the "blessings" translation, based on the Arabic, dictates this is a prayer to Invoke blessings!
It's like Al-Lah invoking another god along with the angels, to bless pagan Sabian!
So who is Al-Lah invoking!?!
And because Muslims claim they pray like Jesus, let me ask you, when Al-Lah was praying, did Al-Lah prostrate!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
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@AlonzoHarris235
Well Alonzo, you actually ended up proving that Al-Lah has nada to do with the Trinity because Al-Lah isn't the Father, and you've acknowledged that the Father and the Son aren't one and the same hypostasis, so 5:17 & 5:72 are both in error twice!
And if Al-Lah has nothing to do with the Trinity, then why should we care whether Al-Lah is one or not, or you care if our God is Triune!?!
Are you seriously appealing to the logic thinking you can dispute the Trinity, so that we apsoatsise, and then somehow are going to accept Al-Lah, and believe Al-Lah is a different god and still believe in our scripture, but believe our scripture is corrupted, while your logic is unfounded in the quran/quranic doctrine, because your god in the quran is trying to claim to be our god, and that our scripture is legit in order to believe the claim, that we should be able to find Ahmad explicitly in our scripture in order to believe the claims mo made as your Al-Lah, that Isa was crucified and resurrected during the time of Moses, as a Levite, and this is meant to be Jesus Christ, who had an injil book that no one has ever seen/read, and had followers called Nasara or Christians, and all Prophets between Moses and Jesus Christ were all around during the time of Moses!?!.....
Come on, seriously, you want me to believe either, any, all of this!?!
Ok, no problem, just one small request.....PROVE IT! 😂
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@Al-CIAda&FBLIE
So who is Esau son of Maryam, show me the Biblical verse mentioning this individual!
Deedat and Naik ask where Jesus said He is God and He's Worshipped, that's their best question ever, ready for the answer........
Genesis 31:13, doubt it, then tell me, is Jesus God or the Angel of God in Revelation 1:1, has to be one of the 2, and that's what you call a catch 22, Checkmate!
Where's your Deedat and Naik now, huh!
I'm using his bones to play my xylophone! 😂 🤣
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@st.paulapostleofchrist6145
He had multiple mental health issues, in addition to his schizophrenia, there's epilepsy, the bell sound can be an auditory hallucination with schizophrenia too, so putting the two together, he probably heard foghorns! 😂 🤣 🤣
The reason I believe he had mental health issues was because Aminah was all but a kid herself when you calculate her claimed date of birth, then the whole cover up that she was doing the temp marriage flex, didn't know who the little fatherless hellspawns father was, and I think he was a problematic complicated birth,
Aminah and the family knew he was a messed up little runt and an embarrassment, shame, and dishonour to them due to the nature of his conception,
And that's why they wanted to pass him off to anyone who'd take the freak!
Makes more sense than a 4yr preganancy! 😂 🤣
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@marjan.f7441
To answer your question (1 singular)...
Yahweh!......
Hadiths claim Adam is made in the image of Lah, so if Adams image is human, what is Lah's shape, form, image!?!
Here, I'll help you out, apart from the number of sighted eyes, Lah and Dajjal are identical, and Dajjal is a man! 😂 🤣
Lah isn't Yahweh, so you've just busted your pagan moon demon! 😂
The fact that Yahweh is the God who sat and ate with Abraham!
Yahweh revealed the Torah, even wrote the tablets Himself!
Yahweh IS the Gospel, Yahweh the Son is called Yasue Al-Masih from Judah in Arabic, so who cares about Isa and the mythical injil, who is Isa the Levite nephew of Musa and Harun!?! 😂 🤣
All of the Jewish Prophets prayed to Yahweh!
Incarnation, as affirmed and declared, in the Bible, by Jesus Himself, dictates Jesus existed before His incarnation! 😂 🤣
If Jesus is God incarnate then we as Christians can't worship a human being, but all abdools worship Mad-ham-mu alongside their pagan moon demon Lah (48:9 (Tashahud and Durood (shirk))), all of you even claim blasphemy if we insult the pagan loon! 😂
The fact you claim that Lah can't eat food, can't go to the toilet, and take issue claiming Lah couldn't be a god if Lah needed to rest dictates an ignorant contradiction that exposes and busts your Lah, because your Lah has a throne to be carried around on by "angels", what does your Lah use to rest on in order to utilise the throne, how can Lah be Almighty if Lah can't eat or use a toilet!?!.....
And before you try claiming "it doesn't befit Lah", what your "doesn't befit" dictates is the befitment of being Almighty, and Lah can't be a god!....
Your words and logic are what dictate the contradictory exposure and bust abdool not mine! 😂 🤣
Now answer the questions I've included in this response!
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@Michael-ec4qb
Was it this one or do you mean Quran 6:3 where Al-Lah is on earth!?!....
Abu Haraira reported:
The people said to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ): Messenger of Allah, shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection? The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the moon on the night when it is full? They said: Messenger of Allah, no. He (the Messenger) further said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the sun, when there is no cloud over it? They said: Messenger of Allah. no. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Verily you would see Him like this (as you see the sun and the moon). God will gather people on the Day of Resurrection and say: Let every people follow what they worshipped. Those who worshipped the sun would follow the sun, and those who worshipped the moon would follow the moon, and those who worshipped the devils would follow the devils. This Ummah (of Islam) alone would be left behind and there would be hypocrites too amongst it. 👉Allah would then come to them in a form other than His own Form, recognisable to them👈, and would say: I am your Lord. They would say: We take refuge with Allah from you. We will stay here till our Lord comes to us. and when our Lord would come we would recognise Him. Subsequently Allah would come to them in His own Form, recognisable to them, and say: I am your Lord. They would say: You are our Lord. And they would follow Him, and a bridge would be set over the Hell; and I (the Holy Prophet) and my Ummah would be the first to pass over it; and none but the messengers would speak on that day, and the prayer of the messengers on that day would be: O Allah! grant safety, grant safety. In Hell, there would be long spits like the thorns of Sa'dan He (the Holy Prophet) said: Have you seen Sa'dan? They replied: Yes, Messenger of Allah. He said: Verily those (hooks) would be like the thorns of Sa'dan, but no one knows their size except Allah. These would seize people for their misdeeds. Some of them would escape for their (good) deeds, and some would be rewarded for their deeds till they get salvation. When Allah would finish judging His bondsmen and because of His mercy decide to take out of Hell such people as He pleases. He would command the angels to bring out those who had not associated anything with Allah; to whom Allah decided to show mercy. those who would say: There is no god but Allah. They (the angels) would recognise them in the Fire by the marks of prostration, for Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt, and the water of life would be poured over them, and they will sprout as seed does In the silt carried by flood. Then Allah would finish judging amongst His bondsmen; but a man who will be the last to enter Paradise will remain facing Hell and will say: O my Lord I turn my face away from Hell, for its air has poisoned me ard its blaze has burnt me. He will then call to Allah as long as Allah would wish that he should call to Him. Then Allah, Blessed and Exalted, would say: If I did that, perhaps you would ask for more than that. He would say: I would not ask You more than this, and he would give his Lord covenants and agreements as Allah wished, and so He would turn his face away from the Fire When he turns towards the Paradise and sees it, he will remain silent as long as Allah wishes him to remain so. He will then say: O my Lord I bring me forward to the gate of the Paradise. Allah would say to him: Did you not give covenants and agreements that you would not ask for anything besides what I had given you. Woe to you! O son of Adam, how treacherous you are! He would say: O my Lord! and would continue calling to Allah till He would say to him: If I grant you that, perhaps you will ask for more. He will reply: No, by Your greatness, and he will give His Lord promises and covenants as Allah had wished. He would then bring him to the gate of the Paradise, and when he would stand at the gate of the Paradise, it would lay open before him. and he would see the bounty and the joy that there is in it. He would remain quiet as long as Allah would desire him to remain silent. He would then say: O my Lord, admit me to Paradise. Allah. Blessed and Exalted, would say: Did you not give covenants and agreements that you would not ask for anything more than what I had granted you? Woe to you! son of Adam, how treacherous you are! And he would say: O my Lord, I do not wish to be the most miserable of Your creatures. He would continue calling upon Allah till Allah, Blessed and Exalted, would laugh. When Allah would laugh at him, He would say: Enter the Paradise. When he would enter, Allah would say: State your wish. He would express his wishes till Allah would remind him (the desire of) such and such (things). When his desires would be exhausted Allah would say: That is for you and, besides it, the like of it also. 'Ata' b. Yazid said: Abu Sa'id al-Khudri was with Abu Huraira and be did not reject anything from the hadith narrated by him, but when Abu Huraira narrated:" Allah said to that man; ind its like along with it," Abu Sa'id said:" Ten like it along with it," O Abu Huraira. Abu Huraira said: I do not remember except the words:" That is for you and a similar one along with it." Abu Sa'id said: I bear witness to the fact that I remembered from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) his words:" That is for you and ten like it." Abu Huraira said: That man was the last of those deserving of Paradise to enter Paradise.
Sahih Muslim 182 a
In-book : Book 1, Hadith 358
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 1, Hadith 349 (deprecated)
Sahih Muslim
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@Michael-ec4qb
6:3
Arabic
وَهُوَ ٱللَّهُ 👈فِي👉 ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ 👈وَفِي👉 ٱلۡأَرۡضِ يَعۡلَمُ سِرَّكُمۡ وَجَهۡرَكُمۡ وَيَعۡلَمُ مَا تَكۡسِبُونَ
English Transliteration
Wahuwa Allahu 👉fee👈
assamawatiwafee👈 al-ardi yaAAlamu sirrakum wajahrakum wayaAAlamu mataksiboon
Fa-Ya / fi = Proposition which points to cause, space or time. In, into, amongst, in company with, during, with, of, for, for the sake of, upon, concerning, after, in comparison, about, among, on account of, respecting, by the side of, on, by, against, according to, in respect of
Sahih International
And He is Allah, [the only deity] 👉in👈 the heavens and 👉the👈 earth. He knows your secret and what you make public, and He knows that which you earn.
Yusuf Ali
And He is Allah 👉in👈 the heavens and
👉on👈 earth. He knoweth what ye hide, and what ye reveal, and He knoweth the (recompense) which ye earn (by your deeds).
Pickthall
He is Allah 👉in👈 the heavens and 👉in👈 the earth. He knoweth both your secret and your utterance, and He knoweth what ye earn.
Abdul Haleem
He is God 👉in👈 the heavens and 👉on👈 earth, He knows your secrets and what you reveal, and He knows what you do;
Mufti Taqi Usmani
He is the true God 👉in👈 the heavens and 👉the👈 earth. He knows what you conceal and what you reveal, and He knows what you earn.
Khan & al-Hilali
And He is Allah (to be worshipped Alone)
👉in👈 the heavens and 👉on👈 the earth, He knows what you conceal and what you reveal, and He knows what you earn (good or bad).
Dr. Mustafa Khattab
He is the Only True God 👉in👈 the heavens and 👉the👈 earth. He knows whatever you conceal and whatever you reveal, and knows whatever you do.
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@Michael-ec4qb
Here's a few for you Brother!
Also, the question arises, who is blessing Al-Lah!?! 🤔 😂
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Allah descends every night to the lowest heaven when one-third of the first part of the night is over and says: I am the Lord; I am the Lord: who is there to supplicate Me so that I answer him? Who is there to beg of Me so that I grant him? Who is there to beg forgiveness from Me so that I forgive him? He continues like this till the day breaks.
Sahih Muslim 758 b
In-book : Book 6, Hadith 202
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1657 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Our Lord, the Blessed, the Superior, comes every night down on the nearest Heaven to us when the last third of the night remains, saying: "Is there anyone to invoke Me, so that I may respond to invocation? Is there anyone to ask Me, so that I may grant him his request? Is there anyone seeking My forgiveness, so that I may forgive him?"
Sahih al-Bukhari 1145
In-book : Book 19, Hadith 26
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 21, Hadith 246 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Every night when it is the last third of the night, our Lord, the Superior, the Blessed, descends to the nearest heaven and says: Is there anyone to invoke Me that I may respond to his invocation? Is there anyone to ask Me so that I may grant him his request? Is there anyone asking My forgiveness so that I may forgive him?. " (See Hadith No. 246,Vol. 2)
Sahih al-Bukhari 7494
In-book : Book 97, Hadith 120
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 9, Book 93, Hadith 586 (deprecated)
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Our Lord, the Blessed and the Exalted, descends every night to the lowest heaven when one-third of the latter part of the night is left, and says: Who supplicates Me so that I may answer him? Who asks Me so that I may give to him? Who asks Me forgiveness so that I may forgive him?
Sahih Muslim 758 a
In-book : Book 6, Hadith 201
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 4, Hadith 1656 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Hurairah:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as saying: Our Lord who is blessed and exalted descends every night to the lowest heaven when the last one-third of the night remains, and says: Who supplicated Me so that I may answer him ? Who asks of Me so that I may give to him ? Who asks My forgiveness so that I may forgive him ?
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 1315
In-book : Book 5, Hadith 66
English translation : Book 5, Hadith 1310
Abu Hurairah reported the Prophet (ﷺ) as saying; Our lord gets down every night to the heaven of this world when a third night remains and says :
(Is there anyone) who prays to Me so that I may accept his prayer? (Is there anyone) who asks of Me so that I may give him? (Is there anyone) who asks for my forgiveness so that I may forgive him?
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4733
In-book : Book 42, Hadith 138
English translation : Book 41, Hadith 4715
Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:
“Our Lord descends every night to the nearest heaven, until the last third of the night remains, so He says: ‘Who is calling upon Me so that I may answer him? Who is asking from Me so that I may give him? And who is seeking forgiveness from Me, so that I may forgive him.’”
Sahih (Darussalam)
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3498
In-book : Book 48, Hadith 129
English translation : Vol. 6, Book 45, Hadith 3498
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Abu Abdullah al-Agharr and from Abu Salama from Abu Hurayra that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, "Our Lord, the Blessed and Exalted, descends every night to the heaven of this world when the last third of the night is still to come and says, 'Who will call on Me so that I may answer him? Who will ask Me so that I may give him? Who will ask forgiveness of Me so that I may forgive him?' "
Muwatta Malik
USC-MSA web (English) : Book 15, Hadith 30
Arabic : Book 15, Hadith 502
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@salehal4291
Well here’s the catch 22, the Quran is claimed to be the word of Al-Lah, which is why you claim the one who brought you Quran to be a prophet, but the Quran is “inspiration”, this dictates/necessitates Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, all whose writings are the NT, are prophets too by default!
Now, your Quran claims Isa, which by default dictates all prophets leading up to Isa, the disciples of Isa, the injil, and Mary, were all present during the time of Moses (7:155-157)!…….Prove it!
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@alonzoharris9049
I've just busted you and Modalists by quoting Jesus, and the proof is there for all to see, you can't apply Modalism to the quotation, but the quotation proves we are the only Christians, the Trinitarians! 😂 🤣
And you've just said that the Nasara in the quran are Modalists, so they can't be us, they're heretics, and even your quran agrees with us on this point!
Furthermore, we've never associated your Al-Lah with Jesus Christ, so that further busts the association of the Nasara with us!
And 7:157 claims the Nasara, injil and Isa were all hanging around the time of Moses! 😂 🤣 🤣
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If you check out Qurtubi Tafsir for the verse, it's not even Al-Lah speaking, they've corrupted the quran, all that applies to Al-Lah is "they say", the whole Crucified not etc etc, is all the words of Jews, Christians, heretics, and claimed Nestorians debating the crucifixion,
Then Al-Lah at the end just say they killed Isa not etc etc,
So we have corruption, Bid'ah, and shirk all in one verse! 😂🤣🤣
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@salehal4291
No! Godlogic pointed out that your chief and commander made the claim about Al-Lah, not Islam, Islam isn’t what/who you worship, it’s the two aforementioned you worship alongside each other!….Now, you asked for proof, let’s deal with the hadith in question shall we!….
Narrated Ubadah ibn as-Samit:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: I have told you so much about the Dajjal (Antichrist) that I am afraid you may not understand. The Antichrist is short, hen-toed, woolly-haired, one-eyed, an eye-sightless, and neither protruding nor deep-seated. 👉If you are confused about him, know that your Lord is not one-eyed.👈
Abu Dawud said: 'Amr bin Al-Aswad was appointed a judge.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud, 4320
In-Book Reference: Book 39, Hadith 30
English Reference: Book 38, Hadith 4306
Narrated `Abdullah:
Ad-Dajjal was mentioned in the presence of the Prophet. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 👉"Allah is not hidden from you; He is not one-eyed," and pointed with his hand towards his eye, adding, "While Al-Masih Ad- Dajjal is blind in the right eye👈 and his eye looks like a protruding grape."
Sahih
Sahih al-Bukhari, 7407
In-Book Reference: Book 97, Hadith 36
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 9, Book 93, Hadith 504 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Narrated Ibn Umar:
“…..Then the Prophet (ﷺ) got up amongst the people, glorifying Allah as He deserves, he mentioned Ad-Dajjal, saying, "I warn you about him (i.e. Ad-Dajjal) and there is no prophet who did not warn his nation about him, and Noah warned his nation about him, but I tell you a statement which no prophet informed his nation of. 👉You should understand that he is a one-eyed man and Allah is not one-eyed."👈
Sahih
Sahih al-Bukhari, 3056, 3057
In-Book Reference: Book 56, Hadith 262
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 4, Book 52, Hadith 290 (deprecated numbering scheme)
So, we have explicit descriptive comparisons between the two!
If both look nothing like each other, then the comparison is defunct, the statement is untrue, if the statement is true, then the only difference is the number of sighted eyes, and reference was made to a human eye when talking about the eyes, there’s explicit affirmation that this is describing and referring to a human man, and Al-Lah can be seen if there’s a description, so, which is it!?!
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@salehal4291
Now, as for your claim I’ve not read the Quran, actually I’ve read it fully, and your Hadiths, and your Tafsirs, and the sirat, and other sources, aswel as the Bible fully, I’ve done historical research, researched the Arabic, used root word dictionaries, so, I know more than you, don’t come here thinking you can appeal to mere claims, operate on assumptions and presumptions, now, deal with the facts, show some respect for your leader’s words!
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@salehal4291
Here’s where your playing ignorant backfires!….
Ok, I’ll go with your claim, why bother mentioning Al-Lah at all if this is to describe only the dajjal, you’re saying there’s no comparison, so mentioning Al-Lah, and how many sighted eyes Al-Lah has is irrelevant, one eye, two eyes, both are completely different, so again, why mention Al-Lah at all!?!….
And pointing out a contradiction between your sources only proves that you have inconsistency in your doctrine!….
Oh, and your book states you have to follow two sunnahs, Al-Lahs, and your leader’s, the fact both contradict each other is your dilemma to deal with, it doesn’t state anywhere that there’s one superseding the other, you have to follow both, regardless of contradiction!
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@salehal4291
You’re stuck in a loop now! I already told you I’ve read more than just the Quran, so you’re not telling me anything I don’t already know regarding the unverified claims!
And, you’re not like me, I’m not like you, so your appealed to statement doesn’t change anything, if one has full sight, another partial sight, they’re not alike on that basis, so, both what the hadith states, and appealing to not being like anything else doesn’t change the validity of the hadith statement!
All you’re proving is that you have conflicting statements based on your logic!
And, yes, it does say the only difference between the two is the number of sighted eyes!…By default that’s rejecting the whole, is the eye not part of the whole, or are you now saying there’s separate independent parts!?!….
And again, if Al-Lah isn’t relevant to the description, isn’t comparable, then there’s no need or point in mentioning Al-Lah, because there’d be no confusion, right!?!….I mean, if you try describing a specific human/person to me, if you describe a man who has two legs, arms, straight hair, one eye, and say that to avoid confusion you have two eyes, no other differences, then neither of you are like each other based on sightedness, but you’re still both identical in every other descriptive aspect, you too have legs, arms, straight hair!
you’ve even affirmed that it states a full description, and states the only difference is the number of sighted eyes, so you’ve acknowledged, affirmed, and concurred without realising!
Finally, you’ve confirmed Al-Lah does have a shape, so, Al-Lah has to be something physically, and you say Al-Lah is one, so, one what, you have to know in order to know what you’re worshipping, and how to identify what you’re worshipping, especially when you’re meant to see Al-Lah one day, if you don’t know, then how can you know and be sure when you see Al-Lah, what you think is Al-Lah might not be Al-Lah!?
And again, supposedly Adam was made in Al-Lah’s image!….So, Al-Lah is comparable, and can fit the whole description, just the difference is sightedness!
You’re just digging deeper now!
Oh, and everyone can see/read that I’ve responded to your statements directly, Godlogic never claimed what you claim he claimed!
Where does it mention the word Islam in the hadith!?!
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@salehal4291
Where does the hadith say Al-Lah is nothing like the one described, where does it say this is the one’s description, but fear not, because Al-Lah looks nothing like the description!?!…
What relevance does mentioning Al-Lah and Al-Lah’s sightedness have to do with describing another, if the whole point is just to describe an individual that according to you can’t be compared!?!….
That’s like me describing a zebra as a whole, describing the number of stripes the zebra has, but know that your horse doesn’t have that number of stripes, and then saying this means there’s no comparison…..
But did I state there’s no comparison because your horse cannot be comprehended, compared, or, did I provide the specific distinct difference, that the only difference between the zebra and your horse is the number of stripes!?!…
You’re appealing to a paradoxical oxymoron, you’re saying the comparison was made but can’t be a comparison because whilst the zebra and horse have been compared the two can’t be compared even though they’ve been compared! 😂
And, I’ve just listened to Godlogic claim again, he explicitly states the comparison is between the one described and Al-Lah, he doesn’t mention Islam once, provide the video and time stamp to back your claim up!
Now, answer the question!….
Why mention Al-Lah at all in the hadith if Al-Lah can’t be compared, how can it be claimed Al-Lah has a specific sightedness based on a differing number of sighted eyes if there’s no comparison!?!
It’s actually you who can’t respond to my points/questions, not I!
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@shaziarazaq3121
Now, let's deal with 5:116....
As mentioned, you've made Isa Al-Lah!.....
The fact I've had to point this out to you is proof/evidence I know your book better than you!
And in 5:17 & 5:72-73 supposedly Al-Lah and Isa are claimed to be the same hypostasis which dictates/necessitates the activation of 4:82!
However, I digress!.....
Now, the bigger issue you're faced with is the fact that Al-Lah, Isa, Maryam have nothing to do with our God!......
Then there's the fact that the verse proves ignorance, lack of understanding, knowledge, education, and wisdom when it comes to the Trinity, because the claim is hypostatic orientated/reliant/dependant.
And let's not forget that Al-Lah affirms Al-Lah is a hypostasis, and compares Al-Lah's self with created human hypostasis!
Finally, 9:31 Al-Lah and Isa are "One" and "Him" singular!
So as a Christian, why would I care if Al-Lah is one hypostasis or more, Al-Lah isn't my God, my God's Name is Yahweh not Al-Lah!?!
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@generaljg4373
You even affirm that we have a Gospel written within 70yrs of the crucifixion and resurrection,
What you got, oh yeah, that's right, no injil, no Quran from the time of Mad-ham-mu, and everything claim din your quran about Isa, if you believe this to be Jesus, is based in claims over 600 years after Christ was Crucified and resurrected,
You've just discredited your own Quran by disputing a Gospel produced/published 7 decades after Christ based on a claim that came 60 decades after Christ!
Abdool, you've got nothing to back the claims in the Quran, not a single verse! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@alonzoharris9049
Based on what, your possessed false prophet's claim!?! 😂 🤣
22:52 - Sahih International
And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.
53:19 - Sahih International
So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?
53:20 - Sahih International
And Manat, the third - the other one?
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
And We did not send before you any messenger rasūl — this is a prophet who has been commanded to deliver a Message — or prophet nabī — one who has not been commanded to deliver anything — but that when he recited the scripture Satan cast into his recitation what is not from the Qur’ān but which those to whom he the prophet had been sent would find pleasing. 👉The Prophet during an assembly of the men of Quraysh after reciting the following verses from sūrat al-Najm Have you considered Lāt and ‘Uzzā? And Manāt the third one? 5319-20 added as a result of Satan casting them onto his tongue without his the Prophet’s being aware of it the following words ‘those are the high-flying cranes al-gharānīq al-‘ulā and indeed their intercession is to be hoped for’👈 and so they the men of Quraysh were thereby delighted. Gabriel however later informed him the Prophet of this that Satan had cast onto his tongue and he was grieved by it; but was subsequently comforted with this following verse that he might be reassured of God’s pleasure thereat God abrogates nullifies whatever Satan had cast then God confirms His revelations. And God is Knower of Satan’s casting of that which has been mentioned Wise in His enabling him Satan to do such things for He does whatever He will.
Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
(Never sent We a messenger or a prophet before thee…) [22:52]. The commentators of the Qur'an said: “When the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, saw that his people were shunning him, he was aggrieved by their rejection of the message he brought them and he secretly wished that Allah, exalted is He, reveals something to him which would bring him and his people closer to each other, keen as he was to see them accept faith. One day, he sat in one of the congregations of Quraysh which attracted a huge number of its members, and he wished that Allah, exalted is He, does not reveal to him on that day anything that might repel them from him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed to him then Surah al-Najm (By the star when it stetteth…) [Surah 53]. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, recited it but 👉when he reached (Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-'Uzza, and Manat, the third, the other) [53:19-20], the devil put on his tongue what he had secretly wished and hoped for and said: 'These are the mighty cranes (gharaniq) and their intercession is hoped for'.👈 When the Quraysh heard this, they were very pleased. The Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, carried on reciting until the end of the Surah and then prostrated👈.
👉All the Muslims followed suit and prostrated👈, and all the idolaters who were present prostrated too. All those who were present, whether Muslim or disbeliever, prostrated except al-Walid ibn al-Mughirah and Abu Uhyahah Sa'id ibn al-'As who were too advanced in age and could not prostrate, but they both grabbed a handful of dust and put their foreheads on it. The Quraysh then dispersed, happy with what they heard.
👉They said: 'Muhammad has mentioned our idols with complimentary terms. We know that Allah gives life and takes it away, He creates and provides sustenance, but these idols of ours will intercede for us with Him. 👉Now that Muhammad has associated them, we are all with him'.👈👈
That evening, Gabriel, peace be upon him, went to the Messenger of Allah, Allah bless him and give him peace, and said: 'What have you done? 👉You recited to people that which I did not bring from Allah, glorified is He, and you said what I did not say to you'.👈
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@generaljg4373
If it saves you from eternal hell, then what else would you call sacrificing yourself to save mankind from being stuck in eternal hell!?!....
But when it comes to your Al-Lah we see that Adam's original sin proves predestination and that Al-Lah is liable as the creator and predestinator of sin!
And because Al-Lah predestines, Al-Lah could've predestined no sin in the first place!
So what is the point, purpose, and relevance of sin, predestination dictates that sin and punishment of sin are unnecessary!
Al-Lah is a sin/ful god who is just playing games with creation, making creation sin in order to punish creation, and creating impossible, inescapable, positions, situations, scenarios, and circumstances where creation can only but sin in order that Al-Lah can punish those Al-Lah chooses to put in such positions, situations, scenarios, and circumstances!
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses argued with each other. Moses said to Adam. 'O Adam! You are our father who disappointed us and turned us out of Paradise.' Then Adam said to him, 'O Moses! Allah favored you with His talk (talked to you directly) and He wrote (the Torah) for you with His Own Hand. Do you blame me for action which Allah had written in my fate forty years before my creation?' So Adam confuted Moses, Adam confuted Moses," the Prophet (ﷺ) added, repeating the Statement three times.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6614
In-book: Book 82, Hadith 20
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 77, Hadith 611 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses argued with each other. Moses said to Adam. 'You are Adam whose mistake expelled you from Paradise.' Adam said to him, 'You are Moses whom Allah selected as His Messenger and as the one to whom He spoke directly; yet you blame me for a thing which had already been written in my fate before my creation?"' Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said twice, "So, Adam overpowered Moses."
Sahih al-Bukhari 3409
In-book: Book 60, Hadith 82
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 621 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses met, and Moses said to Adam "You are the one who made people miserable and turned them out of Paradise." Adam said to him, "You are the one whom Allah selected for His message and whom He selected for Himself and upon whom He revealed the Torah." Moses said, 'Yes.' Adam said, "Did you find that written in my fate before my creation?' Moses said, 'Yes.' So Adam overcame Moses with this argument."
Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 260
Arabic: Book 65, Hadith 4736
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Adam and Moses debated with each other and Moses said, 'You are Adam who turned out your offspring from Paradise.' Adam said, "You are Moses whom Allah chose for His Message and for His direct talk, yet you blame me for a matter which had been ordained for me even before my creation?' Thus Adam overcame Moses."
Sahih al-Bukhari 7515
In-book: Book 97, Hadith 140
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 93, Hadith 606 (deprecated)
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Islam/quran/Muslims demand that a claimant is burdened with the burden of proof!....
Well, it's Al-Lah, Mo, quran, Islam, Muslims making all the claims, so the burden of proof is all theirs,
Remember that when you debate Muslims my brothers and sisters in Christ!.....
They don't get to I terrofatw you, YOU interrogate them, their claims, their fake pagan Sabian they worship alongside their pagan Sabian moon demon, and their incoherent post it note scrapbook!
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@Rizlive
@Rizwan Qadir
Oh, so you want to debate us do you!
I'm here to oblige my little abdool, so you want to dicuss marriage and divorce, no problem!.....
Jeremiah 3:1-2
“If a man divorces his wife
and she leaves him to marry another,
can he ever return to her?
Would not such a land be completely defiled?
But you have played the harlot with many lovers—and you would return to Me?”
declares יְהֹוָֽה׃ (Yahweh).
“Lift up your eyes to the barren heights and see. Is there any place where you have not been violated? You sat beside the highways waiting for your lovers, 👉like a כַּעֲרָבִ֖י👈 in the desert. 👉You have defiled the land with your prostitution and wickedness.👈
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
ka·‘ă·rā·ḇî - כַּעֲרָבִ֖י
6163. Arabiy
Arabian
Or marbiy {ar-bee'}; patrial from Arab; an Arabian or inhabitant of Arab (i.e. Arabia) -- Arabian.
Hadiths:
Narrated `Ikrima:
Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came, `Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" When `AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment, `Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa`a." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa`a unless `Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) saw two boys with `Abdur- Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that `AbdurRahman said, "Yes." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,"
Sahih al-Bukhari 5825
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 42
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 715 (deprecated)
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was asked about a woman whom a man married and then divorced her, and then she married (another) person, and she was divorced before sexual intercourse with her, whether it was lawful for her first husband (to marry her in this state). He (the Holy Prophet) said:
No, until he has tasted her sweetness.
Sahih Muslim 1433 d
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3357 (deprecated)
A'Asha (Allah be pleased with her) reported:
A person divorced his wife by three pronouncements; then another person married her and he also divorced her without having sexual intercourse with her. Then the first husband of her intended to remarry her. It was about such a case that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was asked, whereupon he said: No, until the second one has tasted her sweetness as the first one had tasted.
Sahih Muslim 1433 f
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 134
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3359
(deprecated)
It was narrated from 'Aishah that a man divorced his wife three times and she married another husband who divorced her, before having intercourse with her. The Messenger of Allah was asked:
"Is she permissible for the first (husband to remarry her)?" He said: "No, not until he tastes her sweetness as the first tasted her sweetness."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3412
In-book: Book 27, Hadith 24
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 27, Hadith 3441
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was asked about a man who divorced his wife three times, and she married another who entered upon her, but divorced her before having intercourse with her, whether she was lawful for the former husband. She said: The Prophet (ﷺ) replied: She is not lawful for the first (husband) until she tastes the honey of the other husband and he tastes her honey.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 2309
In-book: Book 13, Hadith 135
English translation: Book 12, Hadith 2302
It was narrated from Ibn 'Umar,:
from the Prophet, concerning a man who had a wife then divorced her, then another man married her but divorced her before consummating the marriage. Could she go back to the first man? He said: "No, not until he tastes her sweetness."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan Ibn Majah
English: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1933
Arabic: Book 9, Hadith 2008
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah was asked about a man who divorced his wife, and she married another man who had a closed meeting with her then divorced her, before having intercourse with her. Is it permissible for her to remarry the first husband? The Messenger of Allah said: 'No, not until the second one tastes her sweetness and she tastes his sweetness.'"
Da'if (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3407
In-book: Book 27, Hadith 19
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 27, Hadith 3436
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@Rizlive
Jabir b. 'Abdullah (Allah be pleased with them) reported:
Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) came and sought permission to see Allah's Messenger (ﷺ). He found people sitting at his door and none amongst them had been granted permission, but it was granted to Abu Bakr and he went in. Then came 'Umar and he sought permission and it was granted to him, and he found Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) sitting sad and silent with his wives around him.
👉He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: I would say something which would make the Prophet (ﷺ) laugh👈,
👉so he said: Messenger of Allah, I wish you had seen (the treatment meted out to) the daughter of Khadija when you asked me some money, and I got up and slapped her on her neck👈. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed and said: They are around me as you see, asking for extra money. 👉Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him) then got up went to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) and slapped her on the neck👈, and 👉'Umar stood up before Hafsa and slapped her👈 saying: You ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) which he does not possess. They said: By Allah, we do not ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) for anything he does not possess. Then he withdrew from them for a month or for twenty-nine days.
Then this verse was revealed to him:
" Prophet: Say to thy wives... for a mighty reward" (33:28). He then went first to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) and said: I want to propound something to you, 'A'isha, but wish no hasty reply before you consult your parents. She said: Messenger of Allah, what is that? He (the Holy Prophet) recited to her the verse, whereupon she said: Is it about you that I should consult my parents, Messenger of Allah? Nay, I choose Allah, His Messenger, and the Last Abode; but I ask you not to tell any of your wives what I have said He replied: Not one of them will ask me without my informing her. God did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He has sent me to teach and make things easy.
Reference: Sahih Muslim 1478
In-book reference: Book 18, Hadith 39
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 9, Hadith 3506 (deprecated numbering scheme)
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@Rizlive
And let's not forget!....
4:34 - Pickthall
Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded.
👉As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, 👉admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them👈. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
This isn't in stages, this is all inclusive, you're commanded to do all the actions in one go!
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@thatbloke4335
Quran 7:155-157 & 19:28 affirm that Isa is a Levite nephew of Moses from the time of Moses, and had the written Injil with him, so are you trying to now tell me that Jesus was incarnate, with a written Gospel in tow, and was from the tribe of Levi not Judah, which would make him a false Messiah as the Messiah is to come from the tribe of Judah, and that Ahmed Deedat was wrong claiming the name Isa is translated to Esau, and the fact that Yasue is Jesus in Arabic, and Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril was in error affirming Isa is from the time of Moses and his nephew, and the fact your Hadiths/sources affirm the error via Aisha and the Najrani Christians, and all your Muhammad did was agree with the Najrani Christians exposure of the error, and rectified it based on what the Najrani Christians stated as the exposure of the error, but forgot that he'd already claimed that Imran is the Father of Musa and Harun, and Maryam, and also an only child!?!.....
Do you have any proof to back this all up, because we've never, and don't, claim any of this, so where's all this coming from!?!
And it's not deceptive of me, it's deceptive of you to try and now deny your affirmation in your initial response that it's only Isa that has the second coming to bring peace, I didn't ask or mention anything about whether peace was brought by any other prophet prior to this specific event, so don't try and erect your strawmen against me, they can't stand up against or challenge me!
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@thatbloke4335
Are you kidding me!....
Mughira got busted in the Hadith, and your Muhammad, after Mughira told him what happened, just agreed with what the Najrani Christians had stated to Mughira which in turn had been stated to your Muhammad when Mughira was questioning the error your Muhammad had made!....
If I came and told you that what you told me was corrected by others and then you agree with the correction, that proves you were in error! 😂 🤣
Aisha called K'ab a liar when he stated the correction, so Aisha has indirectly affirmed the error that Mughira was corrected on by the Najrani Christians! 😂 🤣
Ahmed Deedat - The Choice Vol 1 & 2 - Page 52
Deedat claims Isa is a translation of Esau NOT Yeshua! 😂 🤣
Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril
Life Of Isa
Page 1
Prophet Isa's Mentioned is noted in 10 different situations in the Quran. There is even an entire chapter (surah) named after Isa's mother, Maryam alyaha salam, as well as his grandparents Al-Imran alayahum asalam, who were chosen over all mankind. This Surat, Surat Al-Imran also reveals the story of Maryam alyaha salam, it outlines a description of her lineage and upbringing. It also relates the pure conception and birth of Isa alayhe salam.
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@alonzoharris6730
Yet again you're affirming by distinction that Al-Lah and Yahweh aren't one and the same, that is indirect affirmation that your Al-Lah is a fraud, and that you don't believe in, & therefore reject the Quran! 😂 🤣
You're so ignorant, you don't even realise that your cult, your moon demon, your pagan Sabian, your Quran, all desperately make the claim your moon demon to be god in our scripture,
But you're rejecting it all, indirectly affirming it's all wrong, because our God, Yahweh, the only God affirmed in the Bible, the God of Abraham, isn't Al-Lah!.....
Thanks for proving your cult, your moon demon, your pagan Sabian, and your Quran have nothing to do with the Jews and Christians, or our scripture, and Thank you for exposing the ignorance, Taqiyya, and Bid'ah in your Doctrine, every single claim to Ahmed/Ahmad in our scripture, are now exposed and proven to all be fabricated lies!
Seriously, thank you so much for doing all the work, exposing, and busting your cult for us! 😂 🤣
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@bdbestxyzIII
You can't debunk or refute nada!
Go on, refute me, Maryam is the sister of Aaron, and Isa is the nephew of Musa in the Quran!
Debunk my claim, refute me, back your mouth up! 😂 🤣
Romans 8:17 identifies Jesus as God, because He is Glorified Co Equally with the Father, and the glory we will receive is the Kingdom of God not the Divinity that is God's alone! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
And Isaiah 42:8 decimates your pagan moon demon!....
Isaiah 42:8
I am the (יְהוָ֞ה - Yahweh); that is My name! I will not yield My glory to another or My praise to idols.
Ignoramus, God is saying He will not share His Glory with pagan moon demons, their black stones, or kaabas, or possessed pagan Sabians claiming to be speaking as the pagan moon demon they worship!
Now show me where Al-Lah refers to Al-Lah as Yahweh!
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@ultimatetruth9241
You're corrupting the Quran and proving rejection amd disbelief, which if you do once more, you trigger 4:137! Now show me where it states in 6:84 that Jacob is the son of Isaac, go on, show me in both English and Arabic!
And I'm not avoiding your question, and you've changed your question,
You first asked is Joseph the Son of Jacob, and now it's how can, and one of my Brothers have already answered and refuted your ignorance, but I'll deal with that once we finish this Quranic error! 😂 🤣
Actually, let's expose your fallacy and decimate it so you can't hide behind it!.....
Matthew 1:2
Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers.
Now do you want to explain how Jacob was still alive all the way from the time of Abraham to the 1st Century in order to be the same Jacob who is the Jacob who is the father of Joseph, show me the verses in the Bible where throughout time Jacob is consistently alive and active! 😂 🤣 🤣
Go on, explain the logic in order to validate and justify your claim explain Genesis 49:33, otherwise it's exposed as an ignorant fallacy!
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@thetruthwithproof8802
Haha, says the abdool who's quran claims our scripture is authentic and uncorrupted, without contradiction (5:46-48)!
But your quran is proven corrupted (1:1)!
Your quran is full of contradictions (22:52 & 39:37, 9:29 & 9:30 (just 2 examples)!
Al-Lah isn't Yahweh because Al-Lah IS the name of your pagan moon god (1:1), show me one single verse where Al-Lah refers to Al-Lah as Yahweh!
Isa is a Levite and the injil are from the time of Moses (7:155-157 & 19:28), show us a single verse mentioning Yasue Al-Masih, claim Syriac and you still bust your Lah and Isa because that's the wrong dialect, unless Isa went to the likes of the Assyrians, Syrians instead of the Jews!
And your pagan moon god assimilates other pagan moon gods (Iah, Osiris, Almakkah, Hubal, and many others), and each pagan moon god's name is one of the "beautiful names" Al-Lah refers to and claims to be Al-Lah's additional names, one of which, as declared by your Al-Lah, is Sin (6:78)!
I challenge you to try and refute me, guaranteed you'll either run or expose and prove your ignorance while burying your Lah!
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@youwhat491
The injil is claimed to be the entire Bible, including Paul, Paul is affirmed also to be a messenger of both Isa and Al-Lah (shirk)!
So, by rejecting Paul, you reject the injil, and all the quranic messengers/prophets, including Mad-ham-mu!
Great! You've just apostasised! Well done you! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
And talking about your Mad-ham-mu getting squeezed like ibn fibbin footnotes ketchup bottle, your Hadiths contradict, so I ask you, was Mad-ham-mu inside or outside the cave, where does Jibril introduce Jibril, where does it state in the quran that Mad-ham-mu was squeezed by Jibril!?! 🤔 😂 🤣
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@fab-factor.space.
Haha, sounds about right for your Class A Abdoolus Ignoramus! 😂
I would've bust him on stating the distinction and difference between our Holy Yahweh and his pagan Lah, the second he did that, as many abdools do, he's just exposed and destroyed his Lah, Mad-ham-mu, Post it note scrapbook, and his cult!
😂 🤣
And I've been decimating the attacks on the Bible using 5:46-47 for a good while, it's not a Gospel, it's the entire Bible including Paul!....
And don't even get me started on the contradictions in the post it note scrapbook!
Even appealing to our Lord Jesus Christ as Isa, that falls apart instantly!
Brother Chris is the Iceman, keeps his cool and maintains patience, he spanked the abdool, but I'm more brutish, blunt, assertive, I'd have spanked the abdool raw and sore! 😂
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@nierautomato
You think you're smart, you claim there's evidence against God, against Jesus being God, you demand evidence, and then reject any and all responses as not being sufficient, yet you don't provide any specifics in regards to what you define as evidence, and fail to provide any to back your own claims and rejections up!
So I'll make it simple for you,
I say God exists, prove me wrong, what exists and existed before the universe and everything within existed, where did all existence come from!
What was the cause of the existence of the universe!?!
Come on, if you're to dispute God's existence, this is your starting point, if you can't provide your proof and evidence, then you can't disprove the existence of God!
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@generaljg4373
There's a big difference between Love and Justice!
Our Triune God, our Yahweh, loved mankind so much that He didn't end mankind at the point of Adam's sin, and through the crucifixion, resolved the original sin so that we can all be saved, IF we're willing, under our own free will, to accept this gift, can we receive eternal life,
But if you decide to reject this gift, want to spit in the face of Jesus Christ, then you will be Judged for your choice and decision!
And God is being patient with you all, that's why you're alive right now, so when your judgement comes, you have no excuses!
But you carry on worshipping your pagan sock puppet moon god alingside your fake pagan Sabian lunatic, you will ultimately kneel before the Lord Jesus Christ whether you like it or not, and He will judge you, and yes, you're on the track and path to hell!
Can't say we didn't warn and inform you!
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@salehal4291
Now we’ll look at what Ibn Kathir actually stated, and nothing you’ve claimed was stated by Ibn Kathir!….
36:1 Ibn Kathir tafsir
Speech may be presented on the cut letters at the beginning of Surat Al-Baqarah. 👉It was narrated from Ibn Abbas👈, may God be pleased with both of them, Akrama, Al-Dhahak, Al-Hassan, and Sufyan bin Ayina, that he means, O human, and Saeed bin Jubeir said that he is 👉the same in the language of Abyssinia👈, and Malik said about Zaid bin Aslam 👉that it is one of the names of the names of Al-Lah👈 Almighty. And by the Qur'an, the Wise [i.e., the judge to which falsehood does not come from between his hands or from behind him]. Indeed, you (i.e., O Muhammad), of the messengers on a straight path [i.e., on a strong method and religion, and a straight law], the revelation of the Almighty, the Most Merciful [i.e., this path, the method and the religion that you have brought is a revelation from the Lord of Glory, the Merciful, to His faithful servants, as the Almighty said], and indeed you will be guided to a straight path, the path of Allah, to whom there is nothing in the heavens and what is in the earth, but to Allah things will happen [Al-Shura 52 53. And the Almighty said: {To warn a people of what I have warned their fathers, for they are heedless} [meaning the Arabs, because no warner came to them before him, and their mention alone does not deny others, and the mention of some individuals does not deny the generals, and the mention of frequent verses and hadiths has been made in the generality of his mission, may God's peace and blessings be upon him, when the Almighty said: “Say, O people, I am the Messenger of God to all of you} Al-A'raf 158. And the Almighty said: {The word has been true for most of them} Ibn Jarir said, "The punishment has been obligatory for most of them that Al-Lah Almighty has made it imperative for them in the mother of the Book that they do not believe], so they do not believe [God, nor do they believe in His messengers].
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@salehal4291
I want to know why you fabricated statements and attributed them to Ibn Kathir, because I’ve provided the Arabic tafsir, the English one simply refers back to 2:1, doesn’t mention anything about Ibn Abbas, you made it up!?!
Your claim has also dug a deeper hole now, because this would dictate 2:1, and all verses referred to as “mysterious letters”, are all words, and they’re names of Al-Lah, so, Al-Ra is another name for Al-Lah, everyone knows Ra is an Egyptian god, so, you now have another god alongside, but you all claim Tawheed, and Tawheed is claimed to be unification, so, Al-Lah is a unification of multiple gods, or better termed assimilated gods, there’s one individual referred to in the Bible that’s identified with this sort of trait….”Legion”!
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@salehal4291
Oh dear!…See how quick you’ve tried to change the subject now you’ve been found wanting!
You just stated that Jesus sent the Torah as the law, and you claim that the injil is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and that Gospel is the word of God, but try and claim that the Torah has been modified, and that there’s no Gospel because there has to be a Gospel called the Gospel of Jesus, not Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John….
Well, you’ve just affirmed Jesus to be God by claiming He sent the Torah!
And Mark 1:1 proves you wrong!….And claiming it’s the Gospel of Jesus Christ, not the gospel of Al-Lah dictates again that Jesus is God!
Furthermore, 5:43-47 claims both the Torah and injil were legit, authentic, preserved, in the 7th century, and the injil includes the Torah, so has to be the entire Bible, not just a single gospel, 62:5 again confirms the Torah is legit, 54:43 claims the zabur is more than just the Psalms, it’s a detailed sacred scripture including Jewish history, so includes Chronicles and Kings!
Your favourite, Ibn Kathir, confirms in 3:56 that not only our Scripture, but Christianity, the early church fathers, and their writings by default are all legit!
Finally, 7:155-157 claims that the injil was around during the time of Moses, so, if the injil was there, so too were Isa and maryam, but also, all the prophets, disciples/apostles, Christians!……
Now, would you like to try and prove what 7:155-157 claims, prove it, and I’ll take shahada!
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@salehal4291
I already provided Ibn Abbas and Ibn Kathir, Abbas affirms it’s Syriac, Ibn Kathir affirms Ibn Abbas claiming it’s a name of Al-Lah, And nowhere does Ibn Kathir dispute Ibn Abbas’ tafsir, you claimed he did, gave a statement on his behalf as a quotation, I told you, Ibn Kathir Arabic is concurring with Ibn Abbas, English only refers back to 2:1, and again, no disputing Ibn Abbas!
You’re making up your own Tafsirs!
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@salehal4291
It’s evident you’re stating this, unless Ibn Kathir was referring to himself in the third person! 😂
What you’re appealing to is the English that simply refers you back to 2:1, which concurs with Jalalayn!
Now, I’ll repost what Ibn Kathir stated!…..
Ibn Kathir
It was narrated from Ibn Abbas, may God be pleased with both of them, Akrama, Al-Dhahak, Al-Hassan, and Sufyan bin Ayina, that he means, O human, and Saeed bin Jubeir said that he is the same in the language of Abyssinia, and Malik said about Zaid bin Aslam that it is one of the names of the names of God Almighty.
وروي عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما وعكرمة والضحاك والحسن وسفيان بن عيينة أن يس بمعنى يا إنسان وقال سعيد بن جبير هو كذلك في لغة الحبشة، وقال مالك عن
زيد بن أسلم هو اسم من أسماء الله تعالى.
Ibn Abbas
And from his narration on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas that he said upon the interpretation of the saying of the Creator, glorified is His mention, (Ya Sin.): '(Ya Sin.) He says: Ya Sin, O human being, in the Syriac language.
Jalalayn
Yā sīn Al-Lah knows best what He means by these letters.
So, Ibn Kathir confirms and concurs with Ibn Abbas that Ya Sin means o human being, and that this is one of Al-Lah’s names, Ibn Abbas concurs as the concurred, and elaborates it’s from Syriac, which Ibn Kathir doesn’t dispute once!
Jalalayn states these are letters not words and only Al-Lah knows what they mean!
So, Ibn Kathir and Ibn Abbas claim 36:1 means o human being and that’s a name of Al-Lah, Jalalayn disagrees completely but has no answer, only that Al-Lah can know, all can’t be right!…..
And the hadith now concurs with Ibn Kathir and Ibn Abbas, that Al-Lah can be compared to an individual if the individual looks human, and the other hadith claiming Adam was made in Al-Lah’s image, the Tafsirs actually take it a step further though, because now the Tafsirs are clearly claiming Al-Lah is a human being, but even if you don’t like that fact, the fact is, Al-Lah is called a human being, we’re all human beings, so, we’re all Al-Lah, or, we’re all Al-Lahs, we’re all divine!
Also, the Syriac doesn’t translate to human being, “Ya” is the title “god”, what follows is the name of the god referred to!…
I know you don’t know about Aramaic, so you’re not in a position to dispute!
Now, show me where it states Al-Lah looks nothing like the one described in the hadith!
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@salehal4291
It’s evident you’re stating this, unless Ibn Kathir was referring to himself in the third person! 😂
What you’re appealing to is the English that simply refers you back to 2:1, which concurs with Jalalayn!
Now, I’ll repost what Ibn Kathir stated!…..
Ibn Kathir
It was narrated from Ibn Abbas, may God be pleased with both of them, Akrama, Al-Dhahak, Al-Hassan, and Sufyan bin Ayina, that he means, O human, and Saeed bin Jubeir said that he is the same in the language of Abyssinia, and Malik said about Zaid bin Aslam that it is one of the names of the names of God Almighty.
Ibn Abbas
And from his narration on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas that he said upon the interpretation of the saying of the Creator, glorified is His mention, (YaSin.): '(YaSin.) He says: YaSin, O human being, in the Syriac language.
Jalalayn
Yāsīn Al-Lah knows best what He means by these letters.
So, Ibn Kathir confirms and concurs with Ibn Abbas regarding o human being, and that 36:1 is one of Al-Lah’s names, Ibn Abbas concurs as the concurred, and elaborates it’s from Syriac, which Ibn Kathir doesn’t dispute once! Now, look at what Ibn Abbas states, he states YaSin as the name, and then states o human being after, so, the claim is “YaSin o human being”, not that YaSin means human being!
Jalalayn states only Al-Lah knows what the letters that make up the words mean.
And the hadith now concurs with Ibn Kathir and Ibn Abbas, that Al-Lah can be compared to an individual if the individual looks human, and the other hadith claiming Adam was made in Al-Lah’s image, the Tafsirs actually take it a step further though, because now the Tafsirs are clearly claiming Al-Lah is a human being, but even if you don’t like that fact, the fact is, Al-Lah is called a human being, we’re all human beings, so, we’re all Al-Lah, or, we’re all Al-Lahs, we’re all divine!
Also, the Syriac doesn’t translate to human being, “Ya” is the title “god”, what follows is the name of the god referred to!…
I know you don’t know about Aramaic, so you’re not in a position to dispute!
Now, show me where it states Al-Lah looks nothing like the one described in the hadith!
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@salehal4291
You’ve just stated that only Al-Lah knows, but that your leader knows in order to be able to explain, and appeal to Ibn Kathir as knowing too, how can Ibn Kathir and your leader explain if only Al-Lah knows!?!….
You’re now appealing to another paradoxical oxymoron!
And Ibn Kathir only confirms that Ibn Abbas confirmed o human being is in addition to the word in 36:1, only one word is stated, but Ibn Abbas states 36:1 is the Syriac name for Al-Lah!
So, if you claim this is referring to your leader, that makes your leader Al-Lah, if it’s just a name of Al-Lah, Al-Lah is one of us, a human!
In Syriac 36:1 doesn’t translate to o human being!
And, 6:78, the declared identity concurs that 36:1 is the name as claimed!
Simply put, 6:78 = identity, 36:1 = the name of the identity!
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@salehal4291
In a nutshell here’s what has just happened,….
Because I knew based on your responses that you refuse to commit, I’ve lulled you into committing yourself to a position, and now you’ve committed yourself, you’re stuck with either o human being been the name of Al-Lah, or, your leader being Al-Lah, but also, 6:78 and 36:1 prove neither have anything to do with Abraham, the Prophets, Jesus, our Scripture, or us!…
That’s checkmate my dear fellow!
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65:4
Arabic:
وَٱلَّٰٓـِٔي يَئِسۡنَ مِنَ ٱلۡمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآئِكُمۡ إِنِ ٱرۡتَبۡتُمۡ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلَٰثَةُ أَشۡهُرٖ 👈وَ👉ٱلَّٰٓـِٔي لَمۡ👉يَحِضۡنَۚ وَأُوْلَٰتُ ٱلۡأَحۡمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعۡنَ حَمۡلَهُنَّۚ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجۡعَل لَّهُۥ مِنۡ أَمۡرِهِۦ يُسۡرٗا
English Transliteration
Walla-ee ya-isna mina almaheedimin nisa-ikum ini irtabtum faAAiddatuhunna thalathatuashhurin 👉walla-ee lam👈 yahidna waolatual-ahmali ajaluhunna an yadaAAna hamlahunnawaman yattaqi Allaha yajAAal lahu min amrihi yusra
Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, 👉and [also for]👈 those who have 👉not👈 menstruated👈. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Khan & al-Hilali
And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months,
👉and👈 for those who have no courses
👉[(i.e. they are still immature)👈 their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens), and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him.
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65:4 Tafsirs:
Ibn Kathir
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, 👉and [also for] those who have not menstruated👈. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause,
Those in menopause among your women, for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who have no courses.
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in Surah Al-Baqarah. (2:228)
👉The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation.👈 Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His saying;
(and for those who have no courses...).
As for His saying;
(if you have doubt...) There are two opinions:
- First, is the saying of a group of the Salaf, like Mujahid, Az-Zuhri and Ibn Zayd. That is, if they see blood and there is doubt if it was menstrual blood or not.
- The second, is that if you do not know the ruling in this case, then know that their `Iddah is three months.
This has been reported from Sa`id bin Jubayr and it is the view preferred by Ibn Jarir.
And this is the more obvious meaning. Supporting this view is what is reported from Ubay bin Ka`b that he said,
"O Allah's Messenger! Some women were not mentioned in the Qur'an, 👉the young👈, the old and the pregnant."
Allah the Exalted and Most Honored sent down this Ayah,
Those in menopause among your women, for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; 👉and for those who have no courses👈. And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay down their burden.
Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a simpler narration than this one from Ubay bin Ka`b who said,
"O Allah's Messenger! When the Ayah in Surah Al-Baqarah was revealed prescribing the `Iddah of divorce, some people in Al-Madinah said,
`There are still some women whose `Iddah has not been mentioned in the Qur'an. 👉There are the young👈, the old whose menstruation is discontinued, and the pregnant.'
Later on, this Ayah was revealed,
Those in menopause among your women, for them the `Iddah, if you have doubt, is three months; and for those who have no courses."
`Iddah of Pregnant Women
Allah's statement,
And for those who are pregnant, their `Iddah is until they lay down their burden;
Allah says: the pregnant woman's `Iddah ends when she gives birth, whether in the case of divorce or death of the husband, according to the agreement of the majority of scholars of the Salaf and later generations.
This is based upon this honorable Ayah and what is mentioned in the Prophetic Sunnah.
Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Salamah said,
"A man came to Ibn Abbas while Abu Hurayrah was sitting with him and said, `Give me your verdict regarding a lady who delivered a baby forty days after the death of her husband.'
Ibn `Abbas said,` Her `Iddah period lasts until the end of the longest among the two prescribed periods.'
I recited,
(For those who are pregnant, their prescribed period is until they deliver their burdens);
Abu Hurayrah said, `I agree with my cousin (Abu Salamah).'
Then Ibn `Abbas sent his slave Kurayb to Umm Salamah to ask her. She replied,
`The husband of Subay`ah Al-Aslamiyyah was killed while she was pregnant, and she delivered a baby forty days after his death. Then she received a marriage proposal and Allah's Messenger married her to somebody. Abu As-Sanabil was one of those who proposed to her."
Al-Bukhari collected this short form of the Hadith, which Muslim and other scholars of Hadith collected using its longer form.
Imam Ahmad recorded that Al-Miswar bin Makhramah said,
"Subay`ah Al-Aslamiyyah gave birth to a child a few days after the death of her husband. When she finished the post delivery term, she was proposed to. So she sought the permission of Allah's Messenger for the marriage, and he permitted her to marry, so she got married."
Al-Bukhari collected this narration, as did Muslim, Abu Dawud, An-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah with a different chain of narration from the Hadith of Subay`ah.
Muslim bin Al-Hajjaj recorded that;
Ubaydullah bin Abdullah bin Utbah said that his father wrote to Umar bin Abdullah bin Al-Arqam Az-Zuhri, requesting that he go to Subay`ah bint Al-Harith Al-Aslamiyyah to ask her about the matter in question, and about what Allah's Messenger said to her when she sought his verdict.
Umar bin Abdullah wrote to Ubaydullah bin Abdullah bin Utbah informing him that
Subay`ah told him that she had been married to Sa`d bin Khawlah, and he was one of those who participated in the battle of Badr. He died during the Farewell Pilgrimage, while she was pregnant. Soon after his death, she gave birth. When she passed the postnatal term, she beautified herself for those who might propose to her.
Abu As-Sanabil bin Ba`kak came to her and said, `Why do I see you have beautified yourself? Do you wish to remarry? By Allah, you cannot marry unless four months and ten days have passed."
Subay`ah said, "When he said that, I dressed myself in the evening and went to Allah's Messenger and asked him about his verdict.
He gave me a religious verdict that I was allowed to marry after I had given birth to my child, saying I could marry if I wish."
This is the narration that Muslim collected.
Al-Bukhari collected this Hadith in a shorter form.
Allah's statement,
and whosoever has Taqwa of Allah, He will make his matter easy for him.
means, Allah will make his matters lenient for him and will soon bring forth relief and a quick way out,
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! 👉What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?”👈 (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
And as for those of your women who read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances no longer expect to menstruate if you have any doubts about their waiting period their prescribed waiting period shall be three months 👉and also for those who have not yet menstruated because of their young age👈 their period shall also be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these latter their period is prescribed in the verse they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten days Q. 2234. And those who are pregnant their term the conclusion of their prescribed waiting period if divorced or if their spouses be dead shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God He will make matters ease for him in this world and in the Hereafter.
Asbab Al-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate 👉and the woman who has not menstruated yet?👈 And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.
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Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
In-book: Book 67, Hadith 69
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 64 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
In-book: Book 67, Hadith 70
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 65 (deprecated)
Narrated 'Urwa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) wrote the (marriage contract) with `Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5158
In-book: Book 67, Hadith 93
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 88 (deprecated)
Narrated 'A'isha :
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old, and he (the Holy Prophet) took her to his house when she was nine, and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old
Sahih Muslim 1422 d
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 84
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3311 (deprecated)
It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine.
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3255
In-book: Book 26, Hadith 60
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3257
It was narrated from 'Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was nine and he died when she was eighteen years old.
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3258
In-book: Book 26, Hadith 63
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3260
Dolls:
A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
Sahih Muslim 1422 c
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 83
USC-MSA web (English): Book 8, Hadith 3311 (deprecated)
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3378
In-book: Book 26, Hadith 183
English translation: Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3380
Narrated `Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for `Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fath-ul-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
Sahih al-Bukhari 6130
In-book: Book 78, Hadith 157
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 73, Hadith 151 (deprecated)
A'isha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), whereas Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent them to her.
Sahih Muslim 2440 a
In-book: Book 44, Hadith 117
USC-MSA web (English): Book 31, Hadith 5981 (deprecated)
"A'ishah said :
I used to play with dolls. Sometimes the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) entered upon me when the girls were with me. When he came in, they went out, and when he went out, they came in.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4931
In-book: Book 43, Hadith 159
English translation: Book 42, Hadith 4913
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"I used to play with dolls when I was with the Messenger of Allah, and he used to bring my friends to me to play with me."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan Ibn Majah
English: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1982
Arabic: Book 9, Hadith 2058
A'isha said, "I used to play with dolls in the presence of the Prophet (ﷺ) and my friends would play with me. When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) entered, they would hide from him and he would call them to join me and they would play with me."
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 368
In-book: Book 19, Hadith 7
English translation: Book 19, Hadith 368
A'isha reported that the Prophet (ﷺ) used to call her companions to her who were playing with dolls."
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Al-Adab Al-Mufrad
English: Book 55, Hadith 1299
Arabic: Book 1, Hadith 1299
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"I used to play with dolls when I was with the Messenger of Allah, and he used to bring my friends to me to play with me."
Sahih (Darussalam)
Sunan Ibn Majah
English: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1982
Arabic: Book 9, Hadith 2058
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.
He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth.
Sahih (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4932
In-book: Book 43, Hadith 160
English translation: Book 42, Hadith 4914
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Hassan became a lollipop 🍭!
"Musnad Ahmad 16245—[Mua’wiya said]: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)"
Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9
مجمع الزوائد لعلي بن أبى بكر الهيثمي
رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن
translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) p***s.”
Al Tabari said :
Al Hasan ben Ali Al Faswi narrated to us about Khaled ben Yazid Al Arni, about Jarir, About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father, that Ibn Abbass RA said:
He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s.
Al Mujam Al Kabir by Al Tabarani vol 3, p 51
Ibn Abi Dunya narrated about his sheikh Isaac ben Ismail about Jarir about Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father:
the prophet used to put Al Husein’s legs apart and kiss his (little) p***s. Ibn Abi Dunyaa, Al iyal vol 1, p 376
Ibn Asaker narrated in Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus):
Abu Al Kasim Ali Ben Ibrahim and Abu Al Hassan Ali ben Ahmed, about Abu mansour ben Zurayq told us, about Abu Bakr Ahmed ben Ali Al Khateeb, about Al Azhari, about Al muaafi ben Zakarya, about Muhamed ben Mazyad ben Abi Al Azhar, about Ali ben Muslim Al Tousi, about Said ben Ameir, About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan, about his father, about his grandfather, about Jabir ben Abd Allah RA.
And he narrated to us Another time (Qabous) about his father, about jabir ben Abd Allah RA said:
I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s and Saying: May Allah curse the one who will kill you.
Ibn Asaker, Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus) vol 14, p 224
Al Bayhaqi narrated in his book Al Sunan Al Kubra:
Abu bakr Al Qadi and Abu Said ben Abi Amrou said, Abu Al Abbas Muhamed ben Yacoub said, muhamed ben Isaac said, Muhamed ben Imraan about his father, about ben Abi Layla about Isa about Abd-alrahman ben Abi Layla said:
We were at the presence of Rasoul Allah, and al Hasan came to him, he kissed his (little) p***s.
Al Bayhaqi, Al Sunan Al Kubra vol 1, p 137
Ibn Asaker in Tarikh Dimashq:
Abu Muhamed Ismail ben Abi Al Qasim, about Abu Hafs Omar ben Ahmed ben Masrour, about Al Hakim Abu Ahmed Muhamed ben muhamed ben Ahmed Al Hafiz, about Abu Yusef Muhamed ben Sufyan Al Safaar in Al Masisa, about Al yaman ben Said, about Al Harith ben Atiya, about Shu’ba, About Al Hakam, about Ibrahim, About Anas RA that he said: I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his (little) p***s.
Ibn Asaker, Tarikh Dimashq, vol 13, p 222.
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This WASN'T normal culturally at that time!.....
Narrated `Aisha:
A bedouin came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said, "You (people) kiss the boys! We don't kiss them." The Prophet said, "I cannot put mercy in your heart after Allah has taken it away from it."
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ ـ رضى الله عنها ـ قَالَتْجَاءَ أَعْرَابِيٌّ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ تُقَبِّلُونَ الصِّبْيَانَ فَمَا نُقَبِّلُهُمْ. فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلىالله عليه وسلم " أَوَ أَمْلِكُ لَكَ أَنْ نَزَعَ اللَّهُ مِنْ قَلْبِكَ الرَّحْمَةَ ".
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 5998
In-book reference: Book 78, Hadith 29
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 8, Book 73, Hadith 27
(deprecated numbering scheme)
It was narrated that Aisha, said:
"Some Bedouin people came to the Prophet(ﷺ) and said: 'Do you kiss your children?' He said: 'Yes'. He said: 'But we, by Allah, never kiss (our children)'. The Prophet(ﷺ) said: 'What can I do if Allah has taken away mercy from you?'"
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو أُسَامَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ قَدِمَنَاسٌ مِنَ الأَعْرَابِ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالُوا أَتُقَبِّلُونَ صِبْيَانَكُمْ قَالُوا نَعَمْ . فَقَالُوالَكِنَّا وَاللَّهِ مَا نُقَبِّلُ . فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ " وَأَمْلِكُ أَنْ كَانَ اللَّهُ قَدْ نَزَعَ مِنْكُمُ الرَّحْمَةَ " .
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference: Sunan Ibn Majah 3665
In-book reference: Book 33, Hadith 9
English translation: Vol. 5, Book 33, Hadith 3665
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@tahahagar7664
Oh dear, you've just rejected your Quran and accused your own Al-Lah as a deceiver,
Because it's your Al-Lah that is the best of deceivers, and even will come in a shape that you somehow will recognise as not Al-Lah, don't know how when none of you have a clue what Al-Lah is or looks like, and then Al-Lah will shapeshift into a form you recognise as Al-Lah, again, how, you don't know what Al-Lah is or looks like! 😂 🤣
And 5:46-47 claims the injil is the entire Bible, including Paul, to dispute this, you'd have to prove the Torah to be in the NT, or one of the Gospels at least, want to show me Genesis - Deuteronomy in the NT or a Gospel! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
So, now you've just rejected Paul, who is affirmed as being a messenger of both Esau whoever that is, and Al-Lah, so we have shirk,
Then you reject all including your Mad-ham-mu!
Can you say apostate for me!
😂 🤣 🤣
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@moosa86
Oh really, you think you can educate me, go on, explain the literary motifs behind "Jesus is the Saviour of the body" and what the word σωτὴρ means!
And here's another one for you, Revelation 1:1, tell me, is Jesus God or the Angel of God, He has to be One of the 2 in the verse, oh, but wait, you think you can educate me, so let's see you exegete Revelation 1:1!
It's your ignorance, arrogance, and pride that's about to expose you and get you busted!
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@jxcess3891
Deffo a candidate, however, we do have to appreciate that he could be regurgitating yafurs like Ali Dimwit who i believe this individual is, he claimed ownership of the chair pulled from under Hatun, was laughing it up with his fellow bilal he was hanging around with at the corner, and when he's triggered, he lets his mask slip and uses the same phrases as he does when being his natural deplorable self!
Also, because of his distinct voice, that's why he won't debate any of us live, the second he opens his mouth, everyone would know it's him!
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@generaljg4373
And we expose Islam, its your Quran that desperately tries to appeal to our Jesus Christ, our Prophets and Apostles, our Scripture, your Quran and cult would be nothing without appealing to them, but your Quran and cult exposes itself when we see that it gets everything wrong from start to finish, it busts itself!
None of you can even handle or answer simple basic questions that expose and dispute the validity of the claims, and every single fallacious statement you all make against Christianity, are nothing more than fallacious hypocrisy because we find that it's always the case that what you accuse others of, is what is in your Quran and cult, and a whole lot worse! 😂🤣🤣
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@thetruthwithproof8802
You appeal to 1 John Chapter 5, watch how you've just exposed and busted yourself and your pagan moon god! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
1 John Chapter 5:9-11
Even if we accept human testimony, the testimony of God is greater. For this is 👉the testimony that God has given about His Son👈. 👉Whoever believes in the Son of God👈 has this testimony within him; whoever does not believe God has made Him out to be a liar, because he has not believed in 👉the testimony that God has given about His Son👈.
And this is that testimony: 👉God has given us eternal life👈,
👉and this life is in His Son. 👈
John 10:28-30
👉I give them eternal life👈, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.
👉My Father who has given them to Me👈 is greater than all. No one can snatch them out of
👉My Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”👈
John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, the wrath of God remains on him.”
John 6:27
Do not work for food that perishes, but for food that endures to
👉eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on Him God the Father has placed His seal of approval.”👈
John 17:3
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
Now answer, Who gives Eternal life as God!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@aaronharun1394H
You've admitted that there were Angels that visited Abraham, but out of the 3, only 1 is identified by Abraham as Yahweh, your Quran claims all 3 are Al-Lah, so you now either accept Al-Lah is 3 created disconnected hypostasis, potentially there's a 4th of Al-Lah is another Al-Lah that is absent, bit Genesis is quite clear and explicit, there's only 1 Yahweh (the Angel of God), and 2 angels!
Genesis says 1 Yahweh, your Quran says 3-4 Al-Lah's, now which do you agree with!?! 😂 🤣
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Safraz Hussain
Also, there's no Yasue Al-Masih in the entire Quran, so who is Isa/Esau the Levite son of Maryam, nephew of Moses and Aaron during the time of Moses and Aaron!?!...
Can't be Jesus Christ!...Wrong Name, Tribe, and Time!....
So show me a single verse in the entire qiran referring to Jesus Christ by Name, and show me a single verse from entire Bible mentioning this individual called Esau the Levite son of Maryam, nephew of Moses and Aaron, from the time of Moses and Aaron, otherwise your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, and your Quran, are all busted!
And how about I expose and bust the claim to the first "revelation" inside/outside (contradicting Hadiths) the hira cave!?!....
Its so easy to expose and decimate your cult, and your ignorant Da'if Deedat/Naik script, none of you abdools have a clue about your cult, let alone Jesus Christ, the Bible, and Christianity, you're as clueless as your Al-Lah pagan Sabian shirk possession assimilation and their joke book!
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@Michael-ec4qb
Well if you're going to approach dawahgandists handing out Qurans, this would be a good point and question to raise....
Either Muhammad is Al-Lah, or they have different Arabic Qurans, because one Al-Lah is commanding, the other it's Muhammad who spoke, so which is it, can't claim same meaning, that would be shirk!?!
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
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@Michael-ec4qb
You can also ask the 5 questions Muslims can't answer!..
1 - Where does ٱللَّهِ refer to ٱللَّهِ as يهوه (Jehovah)!?!
Exodus 3:15 - Arabic translation!.....
وقال الله ايضا لموسى هكذا تقول لبني اسرائيل
👈يهوه👉 اله آبائكم اله ابراهيم واله اسحق واله يعقوب ارسلني اليكم. هذا اسمي الى الابد وهذا ذكري الى دور فدور.
2 - Where in the Quran does it mention يسوع المسيح (Yasue Al-Masih (Yeshua the Messiah))!?!
3 - Where in the Bible is there mention of Esau/Isa the Levite Son of Maryam, nephew of Moses (19:28 & 66:12)!?!....
4 - Where in the Bible does it state Jesus Christ to be known by the name Esau/Isa and to be from the tribe of Levi and nephew to Moses!?!
5 - How can Isa/Esau be Jesus Christ when Isa/Esau is hanging around with an injil during the time of Moses (7155-157)!?!
Ahmed Deedat - The Choice Vol 1 & 2 - Page 52
Deedat claims Isa is a translation of Esau NOT Yeshua!
Sheikh Ahmed Musa Jibril
Life Of Isa
Page 1
Prophet Isa's Mentioned is noted in 10 different situations in the Quran. There is even an entire chapter (surah) named after Isa's mother, Maryam alyaha salam, as well as his grandparents Al-Imran alayahum asalam, who were chosen over all mankind. This Surat, Surat Al-Imran also reveals the story of Maryam alyaha salam, it outlines a description of her lineage and upbringing. It also relates the pure conception and birth of Isa alayhe salam.
The Hadiths prove Muhammad was busted and merely agrees with the correction of his error, but that proves the error was made, which in the Tafsir Aisha affirms the error was what was stated by Muhammad and what he had told all Muslims!...
Mughira b. Shu'ba reported:
When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read" O sister of Harun" (i.e. Hadrat Maryam) in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them.
Sahih Muslim 2135
In-book: Book 38, Hadith 13
USC-MSA web (English): Book 25, Hadith 5326 (deprecated)
Tirmidhi
Narrated Al-Mughirah bin Shu'bah:
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) sent me to Najran. They said to me: 'Do you people not recite: O sister of Harun (19:28) - while between Musa and 'Eisa there is such (gap) as there is?' I did not know how to respond to them. So when I returned to the Prophet (ﷺ), I told him about that, and he said: 'Why didn't you tell them that they were named after their Prophets and righteous people before them.'"
Sahih (Darussalam)
English: Vol. 5, Book 44, Hadith 3155
Arabic: Book 47, Hadith 3449
Tafsir Ibn Kathir (non-abridged) on 19:28
It was narrated from Ibn Jarir, narrated from Yaqub, narrated from Ibn U’laya, narrated from Sa’id Ibn Abi Sadaqa, narrated from Muhammad Ibn Sireen who stated that he was told that Ka’b said the verse that reads, "O sister of Harun (Aaron)!" (of Sura 19:28) does not refer to Aaron the brother of Moses. Aisha replied to Ka’b, "You have lied." Ka’b responded, "O Mother of the believers! If the prophet, may Allah’s prayers be upon him, has said it, and he is more knowledgeable, then this is what he related. Besides, I find the difference in time between them (Jesus and Moses) to be 600 years." He said that she remained silent.
وَقَالَ اِبْن جَرِير حَدَّثَنِي يَعْقُوب حَدَّثَنَا اِبْن عُلَيَّة عَنْ سَعِيد بْن أَبِي صَدَقَة عَنْ مُحَمَّد بْن سِيرِينَ قَالَ أُنْبِئْت أَنَّ كَعْبًا قَالَ إِنَّ قَوْله : " يَا أُخْت هَارُون " لَيْسَ بِهَارُون أَخِي مُوسَى قَالَ فَقَالَتْ لَهُ عَائِشَة كَذَبْت قَالَ يَا أُمّ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ إِنْ كَانَ النَّبِيّ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَهُ فَهُوَ أَعْلَم وَأَخْبَر وَإِلَّا فَإِنِّي أَجِد بَيْنهمَا سِتّمِائَةِ سَنَة قَالَ فَسَكَتَتْ وَفِي هَذَا التَّارِيخ نَظَر
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@fahiymmuhammad785
You're so desperate!
Isaiah 7:14-15, Luke 1:80, Luke 24:41-42
You've only proven that Jesus as was the custom, would have ate honey and curdled milk as a child, so eating meat additionally is irrelevant!
And that He would know between Good and Evil!
Isaiah 7:16 King Herod, Even your following cherry picking of Matthew 23:1-3 & Matthew 22:21 expose your fallaciousness, point exposed and refuted! 😂 🤣
And I don't know how old that camelade is that you've been supping on, but nothing you've stated regarding John 16:7 and Matthew 15:23-24 is referenced, implied, or stated in any of the cherry picked verses, epic fail! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@adnancoovadia4282
Abdool! First of all, Al-Lah isn't Yahweh, and your Al-Lah affirms this in 29:46 & 9:29!
Yahweh is the only God mentioned in the Bible in regards to being the only true Living God, so that's your Al-Lah instantly busted! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣
And let me educate you abdool, watch how you run from our scripture!.....
John 10:18
👉No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord👈.
👉I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again👈.
This charge I have received from
👉My Father👈.”
ABDOOL!
Who did Jesus state can take His life!?!
Did Jesus state it was of His own accord if His life was laid down!?!
Did He state that He has the authority to lay His life down and pick it up again aka resurrection!?!
Hebrews 1:3
👉The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature👈, upholding all things by His powerful word. After
👉He had provided purification for sins👈,
👉He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high👈.
ABDOOL!
Who's Nature does Jesus have!?!
John 8:23
Then He told them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
John 3:31
The One who comes from above is above all. The one who is from the earth belongs to the earth and speaks as one from the earth.
👉The One who comes from heaven is above all.👈
ABDOOL!
Where does Jesus state He comes from!?!
Who is Jesus above!?!
John 17:1
When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, 👉“Father, the hour has come. 👉Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may Glorify You.👈
John 17:5
And now, Father, 👉Glorify Me👈 in Your presence with 👉the Glory I had with You before the world existed.👈
ABDOOL!
Who is Glorifying Jesus!?!
From when, and Who With, does Jesus say He Has and Has always Had Glory!?!
17:11
I will no longer be in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to You.
Holy Father, protect them by 👉Your name, the name You gave Me👈, so that they may be one as We are one.
ABDOOL!
What Name does Jesus state and declare He has!?!
John 17:22
I have given them the Glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as 👉We are one👈—
John 10:30
👉I and the Father are one.👈”
ABDOOL! Who does Jesus claim to be united with!?!
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him. But Jesus answered them, “To this very day My Father is at His work, and I too am working.”
Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him. Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but
👉He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God👈.
ABDOOL!
Why did the Jews want to end Jesus' life!?!
Who does Jesus Equate Himself with!?!
Revelation 1:1
This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which 👉God👈 gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by
👉sending His angel👈 to His servant John
Genesis 31:11
In that dream
👉the Angel of God said to me👈, ‘Jacob!’
Genesis 31:13
👉I am the God👈 of Bethel, where you anointed the pillar and 👉made a solemn vow to Me👈. Now get up and leave this land at once, and return to your native land.’ ”
ABDOOL!
is Jesus God or the Angel of God that declared He is God!?!
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@youwhat491
So what your stating, is that you believe an injil existed at the time of Moses, and that 5:46-47 as just two of many Quranic verses, aswel as numerous Hadiths, are all in error, and that you all just lie when making claims! 😂 🤣
Abdool! Our scripture wasn't around at the time of Moses, never was, Jesus wasn't incarnate at that time! 😂 🤣
And seen as you say our scripture is meant to be corrupt, go on, show us what exactly it is that is meant to be corrupted to change the message abdoolam was meant to clear up, also, what was it Isa made lawful that was unlawful!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
And would you like me to post a load of evidence proving your quran is nothing more than a butchered corrupted mess!?! 😂 🤣
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@adnancoovadia4282
Hahaha! Abdool, point proven, you've just rejected Mad-ham-mu,
And you've proven I know your cult & scrapbook better than you! 😂 🤣 🤣......
61:6
Arabic:
وَإِذۡ قَالَ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ يَٰبَنِيٓ إِسۡرَٰٓءِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ إِلَيۡكُم مُّصَدِّقٗا لِّمَا بَيۡنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ ٱلتَّوۡرَىٰةِ وَمُبَشِّرَۢا بِرَسُولٖ يَأۡتِي مِنۢ بَعۡدِي ٱسۡمُهُۥٓ 👈أَحۡمَدُۖ👉 فَلَمَّا جَآءَهُم بِٱلۡبَيِّنَٰتِ قَالُواْ هَٰذَا سِحۡرٞ مُّبِينٞ
English Transliteration
Wa-ith qala AAeesa ibnumaryama ya banee isra-eela innee rasoolu Allahiilaykum musaddiqan lima bayna yadayya mina attawratiwamubashshiran birasoolin ya/tee min baAAdee ismuhu
👉ahmadufalamma👈 jaahum bilbayyinati qaloohatha sihrun mubeen
Root:
Ha-Miim-Dal = To praise or eulogize or commend someone, speak well of someone, mention someone with approbation, approve of a thing, recompense/pay someone his due, to be praiseworthy or commendable. Verb form 8: said of heat: to burn or burn fiercely, to be vehement.
👉ahmad n. 61:6👈
👉muhammad👈 n. 3:144, 33:40, 47:2, 48:29
Sahih International
And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is
👉Ahmad👈." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."
Yusuf Ali
And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be 👉Ahmad👈." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"
Pickthall
And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is
👉the Praised One👈. Yet when he hath come unto them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic.
Khan & al-Hilali
And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you confirming the Taurat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad. But when he 👉(Ahmad i.e. Muhammad SAW)👈came to them with clear proofs, they said: "This is plain magic."
Mufti Taqi Usmani
(Remember) when ‘Īsā, son of Maryam, said, “O children of Isrā’īl, I am a messenger of Allah sent towards you, confirming the Torah that is (sent down) before me, and giving you the good news of a messenger who will come after me, whose name will be 👉AHmad👈.” But when he came to them with manifest signs, they said, “This is a clear magic.”
Abdul Haleem
Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘Children of Israel, I am sent to you by God, confirming the Torah that came before me and bringing good news of a messenger to follow me whose name will be 👉Ahmad👈.’ Yet when he came to them with clear signs, they said, ‘This is obviously sorcery.’
Dr. Mustafa Khattab
And ˹remember˺ when Jesus, son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel! I am truly Allah’s messenger to you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and giving good news of a messenger after me whose name will be 👉Aḥmad👈.” Yet when the Prophet came to them with clear proofs, they said, “This is pure magic.”
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@adnancoovadia4282
Now what happens when you reject just one single quranic prophet in Islam, let's take a peek shall we!....
Tafsir Ibn Kathir - 69:10
Everyone of them denied the Messengers, so My threat took effect.)
👉So whoever denies a Messenger, then verily, he denies all of the Messengers. This is as Allah says,👈
(The people of Nuh belied the Messengers)
(`Ad belied the Messengers.)
(Thamud belied the Messengers.)
👉However, only one Messenger came to every nation. Thus, Allah says here,👈
(And they disobeyed their Lord’s Messenger, so He seized them with a punishment that was Rabiyah.) Rabiyah means, great, severe and painful. Mujahid said, “Rabiyah means severe.” As-Suddi said, “It means destructive.”
So now the question on everyone's lips.....
How can Abraham and Ishmael be prophets who built the kaaba and Madhammad be too a prophet all in Mecca and Arabia?
That's a contradiction! 😂 🤣 🤣
You now have to pick or choose between the 3 to resolve the problem! And if you do Al-Lah says by rejecting a messenger then you reject ALL including Madhammad!
Oh, but wait, you've already done that! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@SamA-xu9gy ntha
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@aaronharun1394H
How can your Al-Lah share Al-Lah's "divine" attributes with all of creation, and not be guilty of shirk (associating creation with Al-Lah),
Al-Lah has just made all creation co equal with Al-Lah in "divinity", we're all a bit Al-Lah-ish, because you all claim the attribute of mercy is part of Al-Lah, your Al-Lah created Al-Lah's mercy, and shares Al-Lah's mercy as an attribute of creation (shirk)!.....Your Al-Lah has created attributes!
Abu Huraira reported:
I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Allah created mercy in one hundred parts and He retained with Him ninety-nine parts, and He has sent down upon the earth one part, and it is because of this one part that there is mutual love among the creation so much so that the animal lifts up its hoof from its young one, fearing that it might harm it.
حَدَّثَنَا حَرْمَلَةُ بْنُ يَحْيَى التُّجِيبِيُّ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ وَهْبٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي يُونُسُ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، أَنَّ سَعِيدَ بْنَ الْمُسَيَّبِ، أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ سَمِعْتُرَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " جَعَلَ اللَّهُ الرَّحْمَةَ مِائَةَ جُزْءٍ فَأَمْسَكَ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعَةً وَتِسْعِينَ وَأَنْزَلَ فِي الأَرْضِ جُزْءًا وَاحِدًا فَمِنْ ذَلِكَ الْجُزْءِتَتَرَاحَمُ الْخَلاَئِقُ حَتَّى تَرْفَعَ الدَّابَّةُ حَافِرَهَا عَنْ وَلَدِهَا خَشْيَةَ أَنْ تُصِيبَهُ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2752 a
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 20
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6629 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Allah created one hundred (parts of mercy) and He distributed one amongst His creation and kept this one hundred excepting one with Himself (for the Day of Resurrection).
حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ أَيُّوبَ، وَقُتَيْبَةُ، وَابْنُ، حُجْرٍ قَالُوا حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ، - يَعْنُونَ ابْنَ جَعْفَرٍ - عَنِ الْعَلاَءِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِصلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " خَلَقَ اللَّهُ مِائَةَ رَحْمَةٍ فَوَضَعَ وَاحِدَةً بَيْنَ خَلْقِهِ وَخَبَأَ عِنْدَهُ مِائَةً إِلاَّ وَاحِدَةً " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2752 b
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 21
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6630 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
There are one hundred (parts of) mercy for Allah and He has sent down out of these one part of mercy upon the jinn and human beings and animals and the insects, and it is because of this (one part) that they love one another, show kindness to one another and even the beast treats its young one with affection, and Allah has reserved ninety nine parts of mercy with which He would treat His servants on the Day of Resurrection.
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ نُمَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْمَلِكِ، عَنْ عَطَاءٍ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مِائَةَرَحْمَةٍ أَنْزَلَ مِنْهَا رَحْمَةً وَاحِدَةً بَيْنَ الْجِنِّ وَالإِنْسِ وَالْبَهَائِمِ وَالْهَوَامِّ فَبِهَا يَتَعَاطَفُونَ وَبِهَا يَتَرَاحَمُونَ وَبِهَا تَعْطِفُ الْوَحْشُ عَلَى وَلَدِهَا وَأَخَّرَ اللَّهُ تِسْعًاوَتِسْعِينَ رَحْمَةً يَرْحَمُ بِهَا عِبَادَهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2752 c
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 22
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6631 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Salman Farisi reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Verily, there are one hundred (parts of) mercy for Allah, and it is one part of this mercy by virtue of which there is mutual love between the people and ninety-nine reserved for the Day of Resurrection.
حَدَّثَنِي الْحَكَمُ بْنُ مُوسَى، حَدَّثَنَا مُعَاذُ بْنُ مُعَاذٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ التَّيْمِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عُثْمَانَ النَّهْدِيُّ عَنْ سَلْمَانَ الْفَارِسِيِّ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِصلى الله عليه وسلم " إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مِائَةَ رَحْمَةٍ فَمِنْهَا رَحْمَةٌ بِهَا يَتَرَاحَمُ الْخَلْقُ بَيْنَهُمْ وَتِسْعَةٌ وَتِسْعُونَ لِيَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2753 a
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 23
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 6632 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Salman reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said:
Verily, Allah created, on the same very day when He created the heavens and the earth, one hundred parts of mercy. Every part of mercy is coextensive with the space between the heavens. and the earth and He out of this mercy endowed one part to the earth and it is because of this that the mother shows affection to her child and even the beasts and birds show kindness to one another and when there would be the Day of Resurrection, Allah would make full (use of Mercy).
حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ نُمَيْرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ أَبِي هِنْدٍ، عَنْ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ، عَنْ سَلْمَانَ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَلَقَيَوْمَ خَلَقَ السَّمَوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ مِائَةَ رَحْمَةٍ كُلُّ رَحْمَةٍ طِبَاقَ مَا بَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ وَالأَرْضِ فَجَعَلَ مِنْهَا فِي الأَرْضِ رَحْمَةً فَبِهَا تَعْطِفُ الْوَالِدَةُ عَلَى وَلَدِهَاوَالْوَحْشُ وَالطَّيْرُ بَعْضُهَا عَلَى بَعْضٍ فَإِذَا كَانَ يَوْمُ الْقِيَامَةِ أَكْمَلَهَا بِهَذِهِ الرَّحْمَةِ " .
Reference: Sahih Muslim 2753 c
In-book reference: Book 50, Hadith 25
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 37, Hadith 663
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@alonzoharris6338
And finally, I've got you busted....
You admit that all humans have one and the same human nature,
So, if there's only One Divine Nature, the number of hypostasis is irrelevant in regards to the Divinity, which is what is identified and defined as making God God,
You've just exposed and decimated your fallacies! 😂 🤣 🤣
God can be Triune and is One as long as there's only One Divine Nature regardless of the number of Hypostasis!
Now we can prove this in scripture, can you prove The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit having different independant Divine Natures!?!...
Come on, either back your mouth and prove it, or concede and accept you've exposed and busted yourself! 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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@generaljg4373
Haha, you said Jesus in Islam has reddish skin, what Jesus, you don't have any reference to Jesus of Judah, just some unknown called Esau the Levite!
Abdool! Mr ex Christian, you should know that THE Messiah has to come from the tribe of Judah NOT Levi!
So show us Mr Ex Christian,
Where in the Bible does it state Esau is THE Messiah!
Where does it state that THE Messiah should come from Levi!
And abdool, show us in your qiran the genealogy of your Isa!
Show us how Isa/Esau translates from Arabic to Greek and Hebrew, if you try Eastern Syriac "Isho" then you're busted, Galilean Aramaic is the dialect Jesus spoke, and in both Galilean Aramaic and Hebrew the Name is the same.....Yeshua!
Show us where it states Yasue Al-Masih!
Watch how you fail miserably, that's if you dare try to take up the challenge, but as all abdools do, you'll run like the cowardly hyenas you all are, just like your Mad-ham-mu, running away is evidently part of the sunnah! 😂 🤣 🤣
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@ZeroCelsius777
Wrong! Let me expose and bust your strawman, and then educate you!.....
First of all there's only mention of the Nasara in reference to ALL Christians!.....Show me one verse that mentions any Christian denominations!.....
Now, either you can prove we're all from Nazareth, even all the Christians in 7th century Arabia, Italy, Africa, etc.....
Or you can appeal to the Nasara heretic cult that rejected the Gospels and Jesus as the Son of God, which would instantly bust the quran!
Prove your claim! 😂 🤣
Now, let ibn Kathir educate and bust you, and islam, while proving not only that the injil is the entire Bible, but Christianity and the early Churchfathers are also authentic! 😂 🤣
3:56 (Ibn Kathir Arabic)
Tafseer of the Great Qur’an / Ibn Katheer (d. 774 AH) is classified and verified
👉Al-Lah recounted their articles in the Qur’an, and he responded to each group, so they continued to do so close to
👉three hundred years👈,
then a king of the Greek kings called Constantine emerged for them, he entered the religion of Christianity, a trick was said to corrupt him, because he was a philosopher, and it was said that he was ignorant. He changed the religion of Christ for them and perverted it, added to it and decreased it, and laid down laws for him, and the loyal secretariat which is a low (vile) betrayal, and pork was permissible in his time, and they prayed for him to the east, and they drew for him churches, temples and hermatiges, and increased their fasting ten days for a sin they claim he committed. And the religion of Christ became the religion of Constantine, except that he built for them more than twelve thousand temples, churches, hermitages, and courtyards, and he built the city attributed to him, and the royal sect of them followed him,
تفسير تفسير القرآن العظيم/ ابن كثير (ت 774 هـ) مصنف و مدقق
وقد حكى الله مقالاتهم في القرآن، ورد على كل فريق، فاستمروا على ذلك قريباً من ثلثمائة سنة، ثم نبغ لهم ملك من ملوك اليونان يقال له قسطنطين، فدخل في دين النصرانية، قيل حيلة ليفسده، فإنه كان فيلسوفاً، وقيل جهلاً منه، إلا أنه بدل لهم دين المسيح وحرفه، وزاد فيه ونقص منه، ووضعت له القوانين، والأمانة الكبرى التي هي الخيانة الحقيرة، وأحل في زمانه لحم الخنزير، وصلوا له إلى المشرق، وصوروا له الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع، وزادوا في صيامهم عشرة أيام من أجل ذنب ارتكبه فيما يزعمون، وصار دين المسيح دين قسطنطين إلا أنه بنى لهم من الكنائس والمعابد والصوامع والديارات ما يزيد على اثني عشر ألف معبد، وبنى المدينة المنسوبة إليه، واتبعه الطائفة الملكية منهم،
You're officially.....BUSTED! 😂🤣🤣
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@ZeroCelsius777
Well if that were so you'd refute me instead of yapping!....
Now, let me turn up the heat and pile on the pressure.....
Prove Jesus Christ was incarnate with an injil book in tow in the time of Moses which is BC aka Before Christ (7:155-157)!
Silly ignorant presumptious abdool, who said I'm protestant, or Catholic, or Eastern Orthodox, or Greek Orthodox etc etc!?!....
See, you don't even know your opponent! 😂🤣
And I don't care whether you accept your Tafsirs and Hadiths, your cult does! 😂🤣
Oh, and I'm not reliant on Hadiths and Tafsirs, I prefer quran only, so much easier to expose and bust your pagan Osiris/Almakkah/Sin moon gods assimilated into one! 😂🤣
Now answer and refute me, you try to talk the talk, but you fail to walk the walk! 😂🤣
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@ZeroCelsius777
See!....You couldn't refute your own Hadiths and Tafsirs, and you can't refute the quran, therefore you can't refute me, because I'm simply going by what they state and claim,
So, your only option now to prove your quran true is to prove Jesus Christ was incarnate during the time of Moses, and that the injil was in tow, as a book, Before Christ!.....
I'm assuming and crediting you with enough intelligence to realise that this creates a sort of paradoxical catch 22,
Because even if you could prove the injil to be from the time of Moses, that dictates the injil and Isa can't be, and never were, Jesus Christ and a written Gospel,
Or you concede and accept the injil is claimed to be authentic, and whilst that busts Islam, Lah, momo, and your quran, STILL, the quran, Lah, and momo are in error because Isa can't be Jesus Christ with a written Gospel in tow Before Christ's time on earth!
Checkmate! Game over! 😂🤣
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@TheAdminStillBlockMyComments
Coward! You're not blocked, if so, I wouldn't be able to respond would I! 😂🤣
What you mean is you can't refute me/us, and now look at your boy, I exposed and busted him instantly!
Go bring me one of your big boys, bring me one of your Dawah dodos from speakers corner, or a shakey sheikh, tufti Mufti, or one of your Taqiyya lip balm Imams!
Hamza is still recovering after I demolished him in debate on twitter,
By all means, tell him I'm waiting if he wants round 2! 😂
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@ZeroCelsius777
Haha, you say those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,
Well it's you abdools who delete comments, block, and censor us,
Hamza has deleted my comments before when he realised he was losing the debate and felt embarrassed, that it threatened his ability to beg and scrounge from nancial support from the ignorants that follow him! 😂🤣
It's you Muslims that either run from our points/questions, or try and end up being exposed as following Bid'ah doctrines of a Taqiyya Bid'ah Cult!.....You run from your own embarrassing quran, hadiths, tafsirs,
You're all embarrassed and ashamed of your pagan Sabian "best example". 😂🤣
We don't run, we stand by our Lord, our God, our Saviour, our Yahweh, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, we stand by our Scripture, we're NOT ashamed or embarrassed, we Love our God!
You wouldn't even be able to answer a simple question regarding the Bible if I asked you, do you dare take up the challenge!?!
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@fahiymmuhammad785
Abdool! You go back and check, come back, and quote me word for word where I mentioned anything in regards to a claim that Jesus is incarnate on earth now!
And the fact you can't provide any reference to your Al-Lah referring to Al-Lah as Yahweh, we can all conclude now that your Al-Lah is busted, non existent, made up!
By not answering questions, failing to refute points, inability to provide evidence and proof, don't and won't change the fact that the questions, points, remain active and awaiting answers, no evidence and proof leaves your statements claims, and conclusions as nothing more than ignorant figmented conclusions with zero substance beyond being an opinion, and if we're going to start using just opinions as our basis and bar that we're to base what is established as fact and truth, then there's no facts or truths, because proof and evidence becomes defunct and irrelevant,
So, I can now say your Mad-ham-mu was a snake with wings, that's my opinion, oh wow, there we have it, it's fact, everyone, everyone, look at what I've proven! 😂 🤣 🤣
See how foolish your logic is when laid out!....
Now bring the quote or you're exposed and busted trying to hide behind a strawman holding a red herring,
And either bring the evidence and proof to validate your Al-Lah otherwise your Al-Lah is busted!
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As I've stated in your other comment...Either you have different Arabic Qurans, because if you have one Quran, then you have 2 problems in the below verse!...
Quran 21:4
Hafs and Warsh differences....
قَالَ
👉He [the Prophet] said👈, "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
قُل
👉Say👈 [O Muhammad], "My Lord knows whatever is said throughout the heaven and earth, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing."
1. Mad-ham-mu & Al-Lah are the ones speaking!
2. Al-Lah quotes Mad-ham-mu post statement as a revelation, so it's a Hadith not a revelation, Al-Lah is merely quoting the words of Mad-ham-mu and that's meant to be the revelation, so Al-Lah is quoting Mad-ham-mu to Mad-ham-mu to state what he's already stated!
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@Rizlive
Well, you haven't responded to my comment on your video in order to arrange the discussion, so we'll have it here!
I see you're question statement asks why Christians believe in human or Divine sacrifice like pagans, and claim in Islam, you, Muslims, reject it!
Well, your question is fallacious, and I've caught you out trying to practice Taqiyya, and you're about to be exposed and busted!......
First of all, in order to claim human "OR" Divine sacrifice is to suggest and imply that there's one or the other!
That contradicts the Incarnation of Christ, you're appealing to Nestorianism!
Collosians 2:9
For in Him all the fullness of the Deity dwells bodily.
Second of all, Jesus Has two Natures as One Hypostasis - Human and Divine, the Divinity doesn't, and has never been claimed to be sacrificed, only the Incarnate Flesh, additionally, you're imposing your single cell hypostatic divinity of Al-Lah onto our Triune God, your Al-Lah's hypostatic divinity backfires and dictates by default that we're all Al-Lahs as we're all one single hypostasis, and for your fallacy to stand, the Father and Holy Spirit would too have to have been sacrificed, good luck proving that one!
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.
👉He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit👈,
Romans 8:3
For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful
man, as an offering for sin. 👉He thus condemned sin
👉in the flesh👈,
So, if Jesus sacrifices His own incarnate Flesh, He is a Martyr unto Himself, and the Father doesn't die, the Holy Spirit doesn't die, and the Holy Spirit.....
John 15:26
When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—
👉the Spirit👈 of truth who
👉proceeds from the Father👈—He will testify about Me.
Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if
👉the Spirit of God👈 lives in you. And if anyone does not have the
👉Spirit of Christ👈, he does not belong to Christ👈.
(The Father's Spirit Proceeds from the Father & Son, that's unification, as proven below!)
Hebrews 9:14
how much more will the blood of
👉Christ👈, who 👉through the eternal Spirit👈 offered Himself unblemished to God, purify our consciences from works of death, so that we may serve the living God!
Romans 8:2
For 👉in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life👈 set you free from the law of sin and death.
The Divinity didn't and couldn't die!
The flesh was Crucified as a result of Jesus being persecuted for declaring Co Equality with the Father aka blasphemy NOT for Christian or Judaic religious ritual, God fulfilled His own Law, He allowed it to happen of His own accord, He therefore was a Martyr not a Christian or Judaic human sacrifice which is a paradox, and He Resurrected, don't forget that important Fact!....
Now, you've created a bit of a dilemma for yourself with this fallacy, because you now have to deal with the fact that 4:157 is full of errors, the fact that even your Isa is crucified, and you all attribute the speech of Al-Lah with that of Jews, Christians, and supposedly Nestorians/heretics who didn't even exist at the time of Jesus, and they're supposedly debating the crucifixion, and Al-Lah affirms in 3:55 that Isa was crucified in 4:157, died, and resurrected, so Isa is also claimed to be a martyr!
Which creates the dilemma.....
4:69 - Sahih International
And whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger - 👉those will be with the ones upon whom Allah has bestowed favor of the prophets👈, the steadfast affirmers of truth,
👉the martyrs👈 and the righteous. And excellent are those as companions.
57:19 - Sahih International
And those who have believed in Allah and His messengers - 👉those are [in the ranks of] the supporters of truth and 👉the martyrs👈,
👉with their Lord👈. For them is their reward and their light. But those who have disbelieved and denied Our verses - those are the companions of Hellfire.
Your fallacy dictates that these martyrs are now human sacrifices!
And not forgetting, that you do have human sacrifices sanctioned in your cult regardless!..
There's 6:137, your Al-Lah allows the human sacrifices to continue, just turns a blind eye!
18:74-81, the sanction to sacrifice an innocent human life!.....And then there's the dilemma you've created for yourself!.....
9:111 - Sahih International
Indeed, 👉Allah has purchased from the believers their lives👈 and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, 👉so they kill and are killed👈. 👉[It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an👈. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? 👉So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.👈
Thirdly, in order for human sacrifice to be made, that would dictate that the one sacrificed is sacrificed by the sacrificer as part of a religious ritual/practice/act, the Romans didn't Crucify Jesus for a religious ritual/practice, they weren't Christians or Jews, and the Jews didn't sacrifice Jesus as a Judaic sin offering as per the Law!
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him. But Jesus answered them, “To this very day My Father is at His work, and I too am working.”
Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him. Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but
👉He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God👈.
Fourth, the Bible, the NT, is explicit regarding pagan sacrificial rituals!....
1 Corinthians 10:20
No, but the 👉sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons👈, 👉not to God👈. And I do not want you to be participants with demons.
And finally, Jesus Himself even refutes such a fallacious claim/statement!
John 10:18
👉No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord👈.
👉I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again👈.
This charge I have received from
👉My Father👈.”
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@Rizlive
Now, you imply you want to know Jesus Christ, well, here, let's see if you really want to know Christ and can answer the simple questions regarding the below references (including some already mentioned), lets see how genuine you really are!....
Hebrews 7:14
For it is clear that 👉our Lord descended from Judah👈, a tribe as to which Moses said nothing about priests.
Which tribe does THE Messiah descend from!?!
Hebrews 1:3
👉The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature👈, upholding all things by His powerful word. After
👉He had provided purification for sins👈,
👉He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high👈.
Who's Nature does Jesus have!?!
John 15:26
When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father—He will testify about Me.
Who proceeds from the Father!?!
Romans 8:9
You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if 👉the Spirit of God lives in you👈. 👉And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ👈, he does not belong to Christ.
John 8:23
Then He told them,
👉“You are from below👈;
👉I am from above👈.
👉You are of this world👈;
👉I am not of this world👈.
John 3:31
The One who comes from above is above all. The one who is from the earth belongs to the earth and speaks as one from the earth.
👉The One who comes from heaven is above all.👈
Where does Jesus state He comes from!?!
Who is Jesus above!?!
Is Jesus of this world!?!
John 17:1
When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, 👉“Father, the hour has come. 👉Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may Glorify You.👈
John 17:5
And now, Father, 👉Glorify Me👈 in Your presence with 👉the Glory I had with You before the world existed.👈
Who is Glorifying Jesus!?!
From when, and Who With, does Jesus say He Has, and Has always Had, Glory!?!
17:11
I will no longer be in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to You.
Holy Father, protect them by 👉Your Name👈,
👉the Name You gave Me👈, so that they may be one
👉as We are one👈.
What Name does Jesus state and declare He has!?!
John 17:22
I have given them the Glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as 👉We are one👈—
John 10:30
👉I and the Father are One.👈”
Who does Jesus claim to be United with!?!
John 5:16-18
Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jews began to persecute Him. But Jesus answered them, “To this very day My Father is at His work, and I too am working.”
Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him. Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but
👉He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God👈.
Why did the Jews want to end Jesus' life!?!
Who does Jesus Equate Himself with!?!
Revelation 1:1
This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which 👉God👈 gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by
👉sending His angel👈 to His servant John
Genesis 31:11
In that dream
👉the Angel of God said to me👈, ‘Jacob!’
Genesis 31:13
👉I am the God👈 of Bethel, where you anointed the pillar and 👉made a solemn vow to Me👈. Now get up and leave this land at once, and return to your native land.’ ”
is Jesus God or the Angel of God that declared He is God!?!
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@farreidachmatt4149
You're an ignoramus!
How about 1,400+ years of Jews, their women, children, being slaughtered because of the source of the ideology Hamas, ISIS, etc etc all follow and believe in!?!
What about Khaibar, come on, tell us all about Khaibar, seen as you think you're so knowledgeable!....
Or how about.....
2:97 - Sahih International
Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah, confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers."
2:98 - Sahih International
Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and Gabriel and Michael - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
5:51 - Sahih International
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
3:28 - Sahih International
Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.
A prime example of Taqiyya (whenever there's an orthodox practice of Islam, the claim is that "Islam is peace", and that 5:32 applies to the Muslims)....
5:32 - Sahih International
Because of that, 👉We decreed upon the Children of Israel👈 that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
Are Muslims now Jews/Jewish!?!
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:
Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.
Sahih Muslim 2167 a
In-book: Book 39, Hadith 16
USC-MSA web (English): Book 26, Hadith 5389 (deprecated)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.
Sahih al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 80
Arabic: Book 65, Hadith 4557
8:60 - Sahih International
And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
9:29 - Sahih International
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
3:56 - Sahih International
And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers."
3:56 - Al-Qurtubi Tafsir
Al-Jami’s Interpretation of the Rulings of the Qur’an / Al-Qurtubi (d. 671 AH) is classified & verified
Al-Lah Almighty says: {As for those who have disbelieved, I torment them severely in the world and in the hereafter} which means killing, crucifixion, exile, and punishment, and in the Hereafter with fire.
Selected Ahadith by Suyuti
2093 - Jihad in the path of Al-Lah is tourism for my Ummah
2754 - "Now, we invade them and they will not invade us"
2778 - "Islam dominates, and is not dominated over"
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@Islamandpeacedawah
Well you first need to prove that all the Prophets, Jesus, Mary, the injil, the disciples/Apostles, including Paul, were all around during the time of Moses (7:155-157)!
And, 5:43-48 affirms the injil and Torah were authentic, preserved, in the 7th century, 54:43 even claims the Zabur was sacred scripture!
And we’re the people of the book, and you’re commanded alongside your leader to come to us to get your Quran signed off, because as people of the book, we’re not umiys like all of you and your leader, umiy means one is capable of reading and writing, but simply don’t understand Scripture!….
Your best example, your Lah, your book, all depend on our sign off!
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Shamsi lacks the intelligence, intellect, and education to debate us let alone teach anyone about anything but how to be a comical ignorant ultracrepidarian!
When he goes on about our God's incarnate Human Nature being born, well duh!....We're in the image of our God, so our God became incarnate in His Own Image, and the incarnation being His Human Nature, well for His incarnate Human Nature to be, His Human Nature like all humans, was born!....
And shamsi has issue with women's private parts, he refers to birth as unclean, well what does that say about him and his mother, or more so, his fake pagan Sabian born of a Arabian local pagan M to the U to the Tah bicycle (Aminah) who didn't even know who the father of her hell spawn was!?!and the number of times he's said "Your God!" when talking to Christians, just like every other abdool who says the same, they instantly reject quran, their pagan moon god, and their fake pagan Sabian soothsayer! 😂
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@commandersafeguard10
Oh the fallacious desperation to defend the Taqiyya!....
1. The hypocrisy, it's your fellow Muslims who have persecuted Christians and Jews and even assisted the Nazis in World War 2!
2. Desecrating graves ISN'T the same as a film or documentary being accessible to view at a cinema, and to dare to try and claim condemnation on the grounds and basis of incitement of persecution/violence is to condemn your own quran and cult as they dictate, command, and incite anti semitism, Christophobia, hatred, violence, and supremacy, including gender and racial supremacy, it's Muslims who are slaughtering our brothers and sisters around the world in the name and cause of Islam, it's our bibles that are descreated, our churches destroyed, our women being violated!......
In the name and cause of your cult, it's our lands that were invaded and our children that were kidnapped, forced to convert and sent back against their own people and parents (Janisaries)!
3. You all cry blasphemy over images of the pagan Sabian messenger of Al-Lah, well that's shirk!.....And this extends to his "children" too, look at what happened over the lady of heaven film!
4. Nowhere in your quran does it mention anything about can't draw images of your pagan Sabian!
5. Quran 9:29 commands you to fight to kill Jews & Nasara who aren't and never were Christians until they believe in Al-Lah, your pagan Sabian and judgement day, otherwise they pay the jizya extortion to not take the shahada which dictates an oxymoron, and with the jizya we're to be humiliated!
6. 9:29 contradicts 9:30 because it claims Nasara believe in Al-Lah, so fight them until they believe but they believe.....That contradiction triggers 4:82!
7. Al-Lah isn't our (the Christians) God!.....Our God, the God of Abraham is Yahweh!....
I challenge you, provide a single Quranic verse where Al-Lah refers to Al-Lah as Yahweh!
8. Isa ISN'T Jesus, Isa is claimed to be the Levite nephew of Moses and Aaron, the Son of Miriam their sister (7:155-157 & 19:28).
9. 7:155-157 also proves that the injil never was our scripture, but even if you want to keep lying and claiming so, then 5:46-47 affirms the injil is the entire Bible including Paul and is authentic, trustworthy, in the 7th century, your Hadiths further affirm your pagan Sabian swore an oath on the Torah, and Waraqa was translating the injil, all 7th century, our scripture pre dates 7th century!
Ibn Kathir 3:56 in Arabic affirms the authenticity of our scripture, Christianity, and even our early Church fathers, he ignorantly death dnt realise this, and the fact he exposes Islam for what it is, a Taqiyya Bid'ah Cult & doctrine!
To prove me wrong on this, YOU have the burden of proof as it's YOUR Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, quran that make the claims, so, Where's this mythical injil, Where's the copy Waraqa was translating from, or Waraqa's translation of the injil!?!
10. Isa is claimed to have spoken Syriac in order to claim Isa is Arabic for Syriac Isho, but this dictates Isa can't be Jesus because quran claims each prophet speaks the language of his people and is only sent to his people, bit the Jews spoke Galilean dialect of Aramaic NOT Syriac, and in Galilean Aramaic "Yeshua" (Hebrew) is still Yeshua in Galilean Aramaic dialect, and in Arabic Yeshua aka Jesus the Messiah translates to Yasue Al-Masih NOT Isa!.....Who is Isa, Ahmed Deedat claimed it means Esau!
11. Nowhere in your quran does it mention the word Christian in Arabic once, it refers to the Nasara who can't be Christians because either every single Christian would have to be from Nazareth, or, the Nasara heretics who rejected Jesus as the Son of God, and rejected the Gospels, which would contradict us and what your quran claims!
12. There's also 37+ different arabic qurans, and these aren't dialectical differences, the are different Arabic words, I can bring you a Hafs and Warsh difference that is seriously problematic (shirk (Al-Lah & the pagan Sabian)!
13. Nowhere in the entire Bible, let alone just the Torah, does it mention a pagan Sabian prophet called "Ahmad", not in Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, or even Arabic!
14. And ALL Muslims use Taqiyya when referring to 5:32 in order to claim "Islam is peace", well unless all Muslims are the children of Israel aka Jews, then 5:32 applies to them not Muslims!
Show me where the same statement is made in the qiran as a command to and for Muslims!
Now, I think that's more than enough for you to have to deal with, but by all means, I've got plenty more issues I can provide that expose the cult called islam....
And I think it's clear to all, and for all to see, that I've actually done my research into this, so please, for your sake, don't be arrogant/ignorant and think you can respond with the worn out repetition of "the script" you're all fed, we Christians have heard it thousands of times, we've exposed and destroyed "the script"!
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@alonzoharris6730
Ignoramus! It's a Qatal verb with a
future reference indicated not by its declension but by its context! 😂 🤣
Can a woman claim she bore a son when she's to bear a son!?! 😂 🤣 🤣
Isaiah 9:6 (yul·laḏ - יֻלַּד־)
3205. yalad (יָלַד - 497)
Brown-Driver-Briggs
verb bear, bring forth, beget
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
bear, beget, birthday, born, make to bring forth children, young, bring up, calve,
A primitive root; to bear young; causatively, to beget; medically, to act as midwife; specifically, to show lineage -- bear, beget, birth((-day)), born, (make to) bring forth (children, young), bring up, calve, child, come, be delivered (of a child), time of delivery, gender, hatch, labour, (do the office of a) midwife, declare pedigrees, be the son of, (woman in, woman that) travail(-eth, -ing woman).
You're fully exposed and busted abdool! 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Nuri B Shah
Abdulina, after all that, I can refute you by just pointing out you've just fully rejected your Al-Lah, pagan Sabian, Quran, and entire cult, Injil is claimed to be the entire Bible, including Paul!
So based on the claims of your cult moon god, your pagan Sabian, and your cult book you've just rejected the injil, and Paul as a messenger of Al-Lah, and if you reject a single messenger, you reject all including your pagan Sabian! 😂 🤣
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@TasnimAlqublani
Oh really, well that's interesting seen as 17:44 states and dictates your Lah and Mad-ham-mu are defunct as is your cult!
Your Lah pre destinies everything supposedly so everything I do is Al-Lah's pre destined will, so if I do wrong it's Al-Lah's fault, so Al-Lah should go to hell in my place, your Al-Lah is the Father, originator, and liable for all sin!
Your Mad-ham-mu claimed that judgement day was attached to his life/death and would occur upon his death, so we should right now be in either jannah or hellfire, go on, tell us which we're in, where are your 72 skeleton brides, where are your thousands of non bleeding bacha bazi pretty boys for you to abuse!?!
Your Al-Lah is claimed to declare Al-Lah to be Sin the pagan moon god (6:78)!
Your Al-Lah isn't Yahweh!
So, all in all, your cult, your fake pagan moon, god, your fake pagan Sabian wannabe prophet along with your incoherent contradictory post it note scrapbook, whichever of the 37+ Different ones you recite, are all false, fake, fraudulent!
So happy new year, because you've started 2024 finding out that your in a fake cult following a fake man, a fake book, and in a back to front inside out upside down cult!
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@Ste_Brit
You're being very naive and ignorant!
You think the abdools that go to Speakers Corner actually go there to have a civil discourse, want to learn, know the truth,
Thats not their intent, their intent is to discredit and attack Christianity, and try to deceive as many as possible into their cult!
You go down there, try your pacifist approach on them and see where it gets you!
Go watch Christian Prince, see if he's a pacifist, considering he's brought more souls to the Lord Jesus christ than any pacifist you can bring to the table!
And, I challenge you, there's an abdool troll called Alonzo Harris, prove your approach works, let's see you put your money where your mouth is!
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@SamA-xu9gy ntha
10:94 - Sahih International
So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters.
29:46 - Sahih International
And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked `Ali "Do you have anything Divine literature besides what is in the Qur'an?" Or, as Uyaina once said, "Apart from what the people have?" `Ali said, "By Him Who made the grain split (germinate) and created the soul, we have nothing except what is in the Qur'an and the ability (gift) of understanding Allah's Book which He may endow a man, with and what is written in this sheet of paper." I asked, "What is on this paper?" He replied, "The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives, and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever).
Sahih al-Bukhari 6915
In-book: Book 87, Hadith 53
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 9, Book 83, Hadith 50 (deprecated)
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
In-book: Book 77, Hadith 132
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 7, Book 72, Hadith 799 (deprecated)
Narrated `Amra bint `Abdur-Rahman:
A Jewess came to ask `Aisha (the wife of the Prophet) about something. She said to her, "May Allah give you refuge from the punishment of the grave." So `Aisha ' asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) "Would the people be punished in their graves?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) after seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave (and thus replied in the affirmative). Then one day, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) rode to go to some place but the sun eclipsed. He returned in the forenoon and passed through the rear of the dwellings (of his wives) and stood for the (eclipse) prayer, and the people stood behind him. He stood up for a long period and then performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first bowing. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up (for the second rak`a) for a long while but the standing was shorter than that of the first rak`a. Then he performed a prolonged bowing which was shorter than the first one. Then he raised his head and prostrated. Then he stood up for a long time but shorter than the first. Then he performed a prolonged bowing but shorter than the first. Then he raised his head and prostrated and finished the prayer and (then delivered the sermon and) said as much as Allah wished. And then he ordered the people to seek refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1049, 1050
In-book: Book 16, Hadith 10
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 2, Book 18, Hadith 159 (deprecated)
Narrated `Aisha:
Two old ladies from among the Jewish ladies entered upon me and said' "The dead are punished in their graves," but I thought they were telling a lie and did not believe them in the beginning. When they went away and the Prophet (ﷺ) entered upon me, I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Two old ladies.." and told him the whole story. He said, "They told the truth; the dead are really punished, to the extent that all the animals hear (the sound resulting from) their punishment." Since then I always saw him seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave in his prayers.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6366
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 63
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 377 (deprecated)
Narrated Um Khalid bint Khalid:
I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) seeking refuge with Allah from the punishment of the grave.
Sahih al-Bukhari 6364
In-book: Book 80, Hadith 61
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 8, Book 75, Hadith 375 (deprecated)
6:25 - Sahih International
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
8:31 - Sahih International
And when Our verses are recited to them, they say, "We have heard. If we willed, we could say [something] like this. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
16:24 - Sahih International
And when it is said to them, "What has your Lord sent down?" They say, "Legends of the former peoples,"
23:83 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before; this is not but legends of the former peoples."
25:5 - Sahih International
And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon."
27:68 - Sahih International
We have been promised this, we and our forefathers, before. This is not but legends of the former peoples."
46:17 - Sahih International
But one who says to his parents, "Uff to you; do you promise me that I will be brought forth [from the earth] when generations before me have already passed on [into oblivion]?" while they call to Allah for help [and to their son], "Woe to you! Believe! Indeed, the promise of Allah is truth." But he says, "This is not but legends of the former people" -
68:15 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
83:13 - Sahih International
When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples."
15:6 - Sahih International
And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.
44:14 - Sahih International
Then they turned away from him and said, "[He was] taught [and is] a madman."
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@generaljg4373
Islam incorporates, promotes, and sanctioned slavery from the start, and it's abdools who invaded Africa, Egypt etc etc etc, and it's never stopped, today its still going on!
So to condemn any other nation for something that's historical and abolished, while your cult is still by the command of your pagan moon demon, continuing the practice that you condemn, then you condemn your own Al-Lah, cult, pagan Sabian, and Quran! 😂 🤣
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Abdool, go read my post, 4:3 & 65:4 expose and bust your cult!....
And your Hadiths affirm this WASN'T normal culturally at that time!.....
Narrated `Aisha:
A bedouin came to the Prophet (ﷺ) and said, "You (people) kiss the boys! We don't kiss them." The Prophet said, "I cannot put mercy in your heart after Allah has taken it away from it."
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ ـ رضى الله عنها ـ قَالَتْجَاءَ أَعْرَابِيٌّ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ تُقَبِّلُونَ الصِّبْيَانَ فَمَا نُقَبِّلُهُمْ. فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلىالله عليه وسلم " أَوَ أَمْلِكُ لَكَ أَنْ نَزَعَ اللَّهُ مِنْ قَلْبِكَ الرَّحْمَةَ ".
Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 5998
In-book reference: Book 78, Hadith 29
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 8, Book 73, Hadith 27
(deprecated numbering scheme)
It was narrated that Aisha, said:
"Some Bedouin people came to the Prophet(ﷺ) and said: 'Do you kiss your children?' He said: 'Yes'. He said: 'But we, by Allah, never kiss (our children)'. The Prophet(ﷺ) said: 'What can I do if Allah has taken away mercy from you?'"
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو أُسَامَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ قَدِمَنَاسٌ مِنَ الأَعْرَابِ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ فَقَالُوا أَتُقَبِّلُونَ صِبْيَانَكُمْ قَالُوا نَعَمْ . فَقَالُوالَكِنَّا وَاللَّهِ مَا نُقَبِّلُ . فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ " وَأَمْلِكُ أَنْ كَانَ اللَّهُ قَدْ نَزَعَ مِنْكُمُ الرَّحْمَةَ " .
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference: Sunan Ibn Majah 3665
In-book reference: Book 33, Hadith 9
English translation: Vol. 5, Book 33, Hadith 3665
Stop lying abdool! 😂 🤣 🤣
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Mad-ham-mu was demonically posessed by "Jibril"! 😂 🤣
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
(as regards) Allah's Statement: "Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith." (75.16) When Gabriel revealed the Divine Inspiration 👉in👈Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) , 👉he (Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)) moved his tongue and lips👈, and that state used to be very hard for him, and that movement indicated that revelation was taking place. So Allah revealed in Surat Al-Qiyama which begins: 'I do swear by the Day of Resurrection...' (75) the Verses:-- 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith. It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) in your mind, and give you the ability to recite it by heart. (75.16-17) Ibn `Abbas added: It is for Us to collect it (Qur'an) (in your mind), and give you the ability to recite it by heart means, "When We reveal it, listen. Then it is for Us to explain it," means, 'It is for us to explain it through your tongue.' So whenever Gabriel came to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ' he would keep quiet (and listen), and when the Angel left, the Prophet (ﷺ) would recite that revelation as Allah promised him.
Sahih Al-Bukhari
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 451
Arabic reference: Book 65, Hadith 4929
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