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  5.  @ziggy6060  Do you know how it didn't go over my head?😏 Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom request protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate (1800s). King Kamehameha III wanted to make Hawai'i a U.S. protectorate (1851) and later requested annexation by the U.S. (1854). King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate (1881). Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did Native Hawaiians wanted Statehood? Yes, Native Hawaiian activists lobbied hard for Statehood. In 1919, Prince Kūhio even wrote the first Statehood Bill. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, the U.S. didn't 'steal' Hawai'i.😉
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  6.  @Tyso808  The U.S./Republic of Hawaii/Provisional Government didn't ban the Hawaiian language. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian 1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian The U.S. didn't ban hula. Hula was banned by Queen Ka'ahumanu in 1830 (because nudity was frowned upon by Christians), but most people didn't listen. Hula was still practiced privately and even publicly practiced, but with clothes. It was a loose 'ban'. In 1874, King Kalākau welcomed hula officially back into the palace. Land was always a problem. Before the Hawaiian Kingdom existed, the ali'i classes owned and controlled all the land. The maka'āinana were just feudal serfs. During the Hawaiian Kingdom, the ali'i and wealthy people still owned most of the land. The Great Māhele was a land policy failure. Now, the same problems exist. The U.S. didn't create a land problem... BUT they can definitely make things better.
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  11.  @Erin-Thor  No, he didn't have a point - The Marquesians were the first aboriginal settlers of the Hawaiian Archipelago, but were conquered and overthrown by later Tahitians who became the 'new' Hawaiians. - The ali'i enslaved the maka'ainana in a feudal caste system and oppressed them with harsh kapu for almost 1,000 years. - The kanaka held the kauwā as slaves who were treated very poorly and used for human sacrifice. The mo'i had heaiu built for sacrifice rituals and the kauwā (and other enemies) were unfortunate victims. - The cheifdoms were warring constantly for 100 hundred years before Captain Cook even visited the islands in 1778. They were all fighting over land, power and wealth. - Kamehameha was an island warlord and imperialist who waged almost twenty years of war to conquer all the chiefdoms. He stole all the land, power and wealth for his kingdom. - The Hawaiian Kingdom conducted the Great Mahele, which was an epic failure of land policy since only 1% of the maka'ainana got land. - The Hawaiian Kingdom had a massive labor shortage and needed to import asian, migrant workers to support their agricultural industry. - The Hawaiian Kingdom leased/sold land for agricultural development and the the government became very wealthy from the leases, sales and taxes. The government, plantation owners, mills, canneries, etc all made a great deal of money. - The Hawaiian Kingdom condoned, supported and regulated the penal contract labor system where many Japanese had to work in slave-like conditions. - The United States ended the penal contract labor system, after annexation, with the Organic Act of 1900. The asian migrant workers were overjoyed. How exactly did the United States enslave Native Hawaiians??? If Hawaiians wanted to remain independent, then they could've voted to maintain Territory status. There was nothing slave-like with Hawaii's relationship with the U.S. Most Hawaiians voted to become a State because of the additional benefits (representation, federal money, more business, better quality of life, etc).
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  12.  @Eveablewastaken  It's not that deep? And it's reality? Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  18. I agree, there was a great deal of historical information that was intentionally omitted and withheld to push a slanted, personal narrative. It's insane. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  47.  @shangerdanger  Hawai'i wasn't 'occupied' or 'illegally' annexed. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  51.  @atyanthdutt6632  Brah, you skirted around the question. How was the U.S.S. Boston used for 'gunboat diplomacy'? The ship didn't take any aggressive actions against the Hawaiian Kingdom, the U.S. never submitted any diplomatic demands to Queen Lili'uokalani and the U.S. soldiers weren't physically active in the Revolution of 1893. The Queen, her royalists, Committee of Safety, the rebels and the American soldiers all testified that the U.S. forces were not involved in the revolution. Even better, historical accounts show that the U.S. soldiers marched past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen, lowered their flags as a sign of international neutrality, retired to their barracks and did absolutely nothing. No fighting. No demands. Where's your 'gunboat diplomacy'? Lol I didn't say that Cleveland successfully reinstated the Queen. He TRIED to reinstate her, but failed. He made demands and he even sent American warships with British and Japanese warships to Hawai'i to threaten the rebels, but they didn't budge. Later, President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S. involvement in the Revolution of 1893. The U.S. Senate on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report, which exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. Cleveland then withdrew his support to reinstate the former queen, re-established diplomatic relations and negotiated treaties with the Republic of Hawaii. All of the Hawaiian Kingdom's allies and treaty holders (all 19 of them!) provided written and formal recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Territory of Hawaii. The international community accepted and legitimized every step of the process. The Harrison administration was pro-annexation. Cleveland was anti-annexation. And McKinley was pro-annexation. However, that doesn't mean the U.S. employed gunboat diplomacy. You haven't even explained how the U.S. illegally annexed the islands. Queen Lili'uokalani attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab, which blew up in her face and instigated her own overthrow by her own countrymen. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter. Do you want to try again?😌
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  53.  @The.Hawaiian.Kingdom  The United Nations doesn't support and share the same OPINION as de Zayas. They've made no official statement that they believe Hawai'i is 'occupied'. De Zayas was an independent expert who just had an OPINION that there was a "strange form of occupation". Do you know what an opinion is? However, the United Nations distanced themselves from his OPINION and stated he should never have released his OPINION on U.N. letterhead. Aloha, you have seen this article multiple times: Hawaii politician stops voting, claiming islands are 'occupied sovereign country', The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/29/hawaii-politician-jennifer-ruggles-sovereign-country A spokesman said De Zayas’ memo did not represent the opinion of the Office of the Commissioner for Human Rights. He said: “They are his own views and as such they should not have been sent out using our letterhead.” If the United Nations supported and shared de Zayas' opinion, then they would've surely released an OFFICIAL statement that Hawai'i is actually under 'occupation'. But that never happened. Tough cookies. Now, can you please provide everyone with REAL EVIDENCE that the United Nations shares your crazy conspiracy theories??? A FunkyImg of someone's independent opinion doesn't count for much. Otherwise, quit lying. P.S. Based on the timestamp of your previous comment, you don't even live in Hawai'i. Cheaper to move to the mainland, yes? I'm not harassing anyone. I'm just challenging your poorly constructed and weakly supported arguments. And you just don't like it when people expose your LIES.🤭
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  58.  @puidemare2337  Did you think this video was objective and fair? Not even close. Why did President Clinton issue an 'apology'? Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter. President Harrison, Cleveland, McKinley, ..., Clinton, etc all had different opinions on the annexation of Hawai'i. What matters the most is what actually happened? The people who cry foul play and claim that the Big Bad U.S. 'stole' Hawai'i are grossly distorting the truth to fit their own political narrative and agenda. There's plenty of primary sources from that historical period that prove otherwise. Things were far more complicated than they want to admit. Queen Lili'uokalani played a HUGE role in instigating her overthrow by her own countrymen.
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  59. Just a public service announcement for all my ohana. For everyone who don't know what they don't know. Annexation. After 128 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision that has declared that Hawai'i was 'occupied' or annexed 'illegally'. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  67.  @The.Hawaiian.Kingdom  Finally, you acknowledge, admit and agree that the United Nations doesn't share the same opinion/position as de Zayas. We found common ground.🎉 The U.N. doesn't support the Hawaiian independence movement. They don't believe that Hawai'i is an occupied territory or that it was illegally annexed. The United Nations hasn't passed any resolution to condemn or challenge United States ownership of Hawai'i, nor have they submitted any case of territorial dispute to the International Court of Justice. The United Nations hasn't contested this issue... because there's no legitimate case. De Zayas released his independent opinion on official UN letterhead (which was a mistake) and the U.N. quickly declared that they don't share his position. The de Zayas opinion letter didn't make any major waves in local news and wasn't even noticable in international news. It was a nothing burger... but, please, enjoy clutching to those funkyimg's. Yikes.😖 The National Lawyers Guild is a progressive public interest association. The statement was made by the Hawaiian Kingdom SUBCOMMITTEE of the National Lawyers Guild, which is co-chaired by... wait for it.. Dr. David Keanu Sai (who is also the self-declared Regent Pro-Tem of the 'Hawaiian Kingdom' who pushes conspiracy theories about 'military occupation', 'war crimes', 'genocide', and 'illegal annexation'). There's nothing sensational, revolutionary or groundbreaking about the NLG's statement. The International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL) is another organization of left-wing and progressive jurists' associations. Dr. Sai also worked with the IADL to craft their paper thin resolution. Please let me know when the American Bar Association endorses the independence movement or the International Court of Justice rules in favor of Dr. Sai's flim flam legal arguments and hollow propaganda. Nothing what he says rings true. One more thing. Have the NLG, IADL, Dr. Sai or others submitted and won any cases in U.S. or International Court? Nope. Nada. Zilch. But I thought their legal arguments were legitimate? Sorry, they're not. Too bad, so sad.😌 P.S. You don't live in Hawai'i. You may have family here and probably grew up local, in Maui, but you don't live in Hawai'i anymore. You make many posts at 2, 3 and 4am, which is insane, especially for a middle-aged woman with kids (being a mother is a full-time job of it's own, big ups to you). How do you stay up so very late with three companies and a family? Lol. Covid-19 doesn't make regular, work-at-home people do strange graveyard shifts. That's just a weak cover story. Are you a vampire, too? Lol. Nah, you abandoned your kuleana. Can't blame you. Hawai'i is very expensive. How's life on the mainland? It's cheaper, yea? Makes sense. You got receipts? More like bad credit. You have nothing but conspiracy theories, propaganda and crazy, secessionist dreams. You probably dream of moving the fam back to the rock after 'liberation'. Keep Hawaiian Kingdom dreamin'.🤭💭 Blessings to you and yours. Aloha.
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  68.  @AdviceFromAHipoCrite  Supremacist narrative? Wut?! Lol. Did you think this silly and short propaganda video represents real history with all of it's slickly edited mistruths and historical inaccuracies? How did the U.S. use its military to overthrow the monarchy? The U.S.S. Boston landed 162 marines and sailors who were given strict orders of neutrality as peacekeepers to protect American lives and property (in case there was a bloody rebellion). The U.S. troops marched past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen and lowered their flag as a sign of international neutrality. They didn't actively participate in the revolution. Captain Wiltse of the U.S.S. Boston gave these instructions to Commander Swinburne of the American troops: You will take command of the battalion and land in Honolulu for the purpose of protecting our legation, consulate, and the lives and property of American citizens, and to assist in preserving public order. Great prudence must be exercised by both officers and men, and no action taken that is not fully warranted by the condition of affairs and by the conduct of those who may be inimical to the treaty rights of American citizens. Both sides (rebels and royalists) provided no statements or evidence that the Americans assisted the rebels. There's no testimony that the American soldiers patrolled the streets, surrounded government buildings, raided offices, engaged in any fire fights, or did anything to actively overthrow the hawaiian queen. By all accounts, they were chilling in their barracks... doing nothing. Meanwhile, the Committee of Safety had 1,100 - 1,600 Honolulu Rifle militiamen who were actively rebelling against a queen who attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Queen Lili'uokalani: I told them it was my intention to promulgate a new constitution... At 12pm, I prorogued the legislature... Early in January I mentioned to Captain Nowlein of the household guards, and Mr. Wilson the marshall, my intentions to promulgate a new constitution, and to prepare themselves to quell any riot or outbreak from the opposition. They assured me they would be ready; and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy... HOW exactly did the U.S. military overthrow the monarchy? Are you confusing 162 American marines and sailors who did absolutely nothing with a local Hawaiian militia consisting of 1,100 - 1,600 militiamen who were angry that their Queen attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab? Did you actually think she was overthrown for no reason?🤔
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  70.  @zachcomposto535  This dumb video didn't show any genocide or ethnic cleansing by the United States in Hawai'i. Where did you see that? 👀 Lol. You claimed there was 'borderline ethnic cleansing' in Hawai'i, but there was no deliberate killing of kanaka maoli. There was no genocide. The Hawaiian culture was affected by Western social, religious, political, economic and military ideas, but that's not G-E-N-O-C-I-D-E. Lol. Kamehameha fought a long war for over a decade to force his enemies to submit to his rule. He conquered the island chiefdoms and stole their land. During the Battle of Nu'uanu, Kamehameha and his na ali'i koa forced his enemies off the Pali where they fell to their deaths. The bodies were decapitated and their heads were buried hundreds of feet away from their corpses. In 1898, people found 800 skulls of the Oahu warriors that were killed. Is that not an atrocity? Kamehameh stole the āina and mana of other kanaka. Is that not a war crime? Should the international community intervene to restore the eight islands back to their chiefdom glory? Kamehameha was an imperialist who took from others with force and built the Hawaiian Kingdom on sand soaked in kanaka blood. People often selectively choose what parts of history they acknowledge. They're willfully ignorant of the unpleasant parts. King Kamehameha II banned the harsh, oppressive kapu religious legal system and old ancestral religion. He forbade those practices. Did a Hawaiian King erase part of their culture? Yes. The kapu system was a terrible system and the kanaka are better off without it. Kamehameha conquered the islands with 12,000 men and 1,000 war canoes over a ten year bloody war campaign. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles took the islands with 1,100-1,600 militiamen in a single day without killing anyone (without any help from the 162 neutral U.S. marines and sailors). Who was closer to being 'genocidal'? Kemehameha conquered. There was no U.S. genocide in Hawai'i. If you want more answers, look at the bottom of the cliffs, braddah. The dead still speak. If you disagree, then can you give me a specific example of U.S. 'ethnic cleansing' in Hawai'i? Don't worry, I'll wait. Lol ⌚
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  71.  @zachcomposto535  Westerners legally purchased and leased land from the Hawaiian Kingdom. How exactly did westerners force kanaka off their land? Lol. Do you know Hawaiian history? The Great Māhele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the āina for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. These land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the ahupua'a for generations. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Māhele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. ethnic cleansing - the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society. So, again, how did the United States commit 'borderline ethnic cleansing'? Feel free to watch this silly video one more time. Lol
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  74. Rose, did you think this video was objective? This video was full of historical inaccuracies, half truths and propaganda. Always independently research, verify and confirm what you read, see and hear. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  76.  @pakelika100  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the constitution and unilaterally created his own constitution, and increased the monarchy's power, which was illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.  Kamehameha V was also the first to impose property, income and literacy tests for voting. He ended universal suffrage in 1864, well before the 1887 Constitution. King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. They didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. The Queen and Hui Kālaiʻāina opposed the 1887 Constitution. They wanted to amend it and regain power. They organized a petition for a new constitution. Lili'uokalani claimed that "out of a possible 9500 registered voters, 6500, or two-thirds, had signed these petitions" and she couldn't ignore their request and be "deaf to the voice of the people, which tradition tells us is the voice of God." Unfortunately, the petitions have been lost to history, only a small, incomplete part remains. Queen Lili'uokalani repeatedly tried to ammend the 1887 Constitution, but all her efforts failed. So she tried a very risky and illegal move. She wanted to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogate the legislature, unilaterally make her own, promulgate it via (magical) royal proclamation and defend her revolution with the military. This was very illegal and unconstitutional. And it backfired on her - very badly. She instigated her own overthrow. She used the 'will of the people' as a pretense for a power grab.
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  82.  @ConradLihilihi  This video is full of many historical lies, half truths and propaganda. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  84.  @The.Hawaiian.Kingdom  Auwe, you're spitting so much nonsense! Smh. The Great Māhele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'āinana claimed land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Māhele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian The NLG is a progressive public interest association. The statement was made by the Hawaiian Kingdom SUBCOMMITTEE of the National Lawyers Guild, which is co-chaired by... wait for it.. Dr. David Keanu Sai. There's nothing sensational, revolutionary or groundbreaking about their statement. Please let me know when the American Bar Association endorses hawaiian independence.
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  85.  @ConradLihilihi  'Colonizer' history books? What are you talking about? Hawai'i was never colonized by the U.S. Lol. Real talk. Queen Lili'uokalani admitted in her OWN BOOK, _Hawaii's Story, and in her official, written testimony to Commissioner Blount that she attempted to overthrow the existing government. Go and read her official book. She failed to legally and peacefully amend the existing constitution... so she desperately tried a power grab... that backfired horribly in her face. She wanted to overthrow the government just like King Kamehameha V overthrew the government when he refused to take the oath to the 1852 Constitution, abrogated the constitution, unilaterally created his OWN constitution, strengthened his autocratic powers (because he didn't want Hawai'i to become a Republic, because, hey, he wanted the King to be the most powerful branch of the Constitutional Monarchy) and he proclaimed the Constitution of 1864... which instituted income, property and literacy tests for voting rights. He made a brazen power play and got away with it. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to rip a page outta his playbook, but it didn't work. Her opposition knocked her clean on her 'okole, she surrendered, abdicated the throne, pledged allegiance to the Republic of Hawai'i... And the rest is history. Thems the breaks, brah. Don't believe. Go ahead, compare the 1852 and 1864 Constitutions. It's all there. While you're at it, go and read the Queen's Abdication Letter and her Oath Pledge. Please learn more about the real Hawaiian history, not youtube conspiracy theories, propaganda and wishful thinking. Let's talk story, not fairytales.
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  94.  @kanakaoiwi1609  Polynesians are just an ethnic group. Marquesians, Tahitians, Samoa, Hawai'i, etc are all Polynesians. If the Tahitians migrate to Hawai'i, which were originally inhabited by the Marquesians, then it's not okay because it's Polynesian-on-Polynesian aggression. Kapu was religious law, just like the Ten Commandments in Christianity. However, the Hawaiian Kings could create kapu for whatever they wish. Kamehameha was gifted cattle, which was a very valuable source of meat and sign of wealth. He didn't want anyone to touch his free-ranging cattle. So what did he do? He placed a kapu on it. It anyone hunted his cattle, then they would be punished with death. The old, ancestral religion didn't just disappear overnight. It's common knowledge that the missionaries arrived in 1820, several months after King Kamehameha II abolished the old ancestral religion and ended kapu in 1819. Before the missionaries arrived, the ancestral religion and kapu were under siege. First, the maka'āinana were growing resentful of the oppressive, harsh kapu religious laws. Women especially hated kapu and the restrictions that prevented them from getting power and being seen more as equals. Queen Ka'ahumanu was very influential, powerful and she HATED kapu. There were prophecies that kapu and the feudal/caste system would fall. Westerners visited the islands, broke kapu, and the gods didn't punish them with calamity. This undermined the religion and kapu. Kanaka women would swim/paddle out to greet and interact with haole men and these violations also continued on land, which broke kapu, but had little godly consequences. Slowly, the power of kapu and the native religion weakened. Furthermore, foreign diseases also ravaged the local population, which challenged the spiritual world view of native hawaiians. The spiritual consciousness of Hawai'i was in great flux, which made it easier for the missionaries in the 1820s to arrive and begin conversion. King Kamehameha II (Kamehameha I's son) was partially converted, but the guy did have 4-5 favorite wives and liked to drink rum. He wasn't a full convert. Lol. The missionaries helped convert kanaka, but they weren't the primary cause of religious change. Kapu sucked. Good riddance.
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  96. Completely factual? Ha ha. This video is full of historical inaccuracies, half truths and propaganda. The United States didn't 'steal' Hawai'i. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  104.  @puidemare2337  Brah, Johnny Harris also didn't live through the Revolution of 1893 or the Annexation of 1898. Neither did you or I, but guess who did? Queen Lili'uokalani. She admitted to Commissioner Blount and in her OWN book, Hawaii's Story, that she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. I think she's a good source of information. Queen Lili'uokalani: I told them it was my intention to promulgate a new constitution... At 12pm, I prorogued the legislature... Early in January I mentioned to Captain Nowlein of the household guards, and Mr. Wilson the marshall, my intentions to promulgate a new constitution, and to prepare themselves to quell any riot or outbreak from the opposition. They assured me they would be ready; and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy... There's no primary sources or historical evidence that the U.S. military had any active involvement in the Revolution of 1893. How did the U.S. use its military to overthrow the monarchy? The U.S.S. Boston landed 162 marines and sailors who were given strict orders of neutrality as peacekeepers to protect American lives and property (in case there was a bloody rebellion). The U.S. troops marched past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen and lowered their flag as a sign of international neutrality. They didn't actively participate in the revolution. Captain Wiltse of the U.S.S. Boston gave these instructions to Commander Swinburne of the American troops: You will take command of the battalion and land in Honolulu for the purpose of protecting our legation, consulate, and the lives and property of American citizens, and to assist in preserving public order. Great prudence must be exercised by both officers and men, and no action taken that is not fully warranted by the condition of affairs and by the conduct of those who may be inimical to the treaty rights of American citizens. Both sides (rebels and royalists) provided no statements or evidence that the Americans assisted the rebels. There's no testimony that the American soldiers patrolled the streets, surrounded government buildings, raided offices, engaged in any fire fights, or did anything to actively overthrow the hawaiian queen. By all accounts, they were chilling in their barracks... doing nothing. Meanwhile, the Committee of Safety had 1,100 - 1,600 Honolulu Rifle militiamen who were actively rebelling against a queen who attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. I have researched a great deal of primary sources and historical documents. There is no evidence of a hostile U.S. military overthrow. What research have you done? History may be written by the victors, but it may also be rewritten by the losers. It goes both ways. That's why people have to examine the actual evidence (writing, speeches, newspapers, reports, etc) of the time period for all parties involved. Just because the Clinton Administration issued a dinky, five-page 'apology' resolution, that doesn't mean it's 'true'. The Apology Resolution has no legal effect on the purity of the United States' title and claim to Hawai'i. Queen Lili'uokalani was overthrown by her countrymen in 1893 and, in 1898, they requested annexation by the United States. The Hawaiian Legislature unanimously approved the annexation and the U.S. Congress approved it with a two thirds majority by both the Senate and House of Representatives. Johnny Harris doesn't address any of these details. He only (mis)speaks about history in a way that promotes his propaganda. Then he moves on to the next hi$$$story topic, for clicks and money. Lol
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  109. Just a public service announcement for all my ohana. Annexation. After 128 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision that has declared that Hawai'i was 'occupied' or annexed 'illegally'. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  116.  @pakelika100  Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  122. Arlenn, you don't know anything about Hawaiian history. Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  126.  @seanco1372  No problem. The story of Hawai'i isn't this lopsided victory where the U.S. steamrolled the islands. In 1893, the U.S. wasn't a super-power but, in 1959, it was. The Hawaiian Kingdom was torn apart by social, political, cultural and economic forces (internal and external). There were classic power struggles (migrants vs natives, ali'i vs maka'āinana, monarchy vs businessmen, royalists vs republicans, technology vs tradition, etc). Mother Nature surely didn't do kanaka any favors with the waves of epidemics that ravaged the population. The 'Big Bad' USA story doesn't fit very well. If anything, the history is much more complicated. There isn't a clear 'good guy' and 'bad guy'. Everyone had a hand in the success and downfall (whether direct or indirect). The U.S./Republic of Hawaii/Provisional Government didn't ban the Hawaiian language. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian 1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian The U.S. didn't ban hula. Hula was banned by Queen Ka'ahumanu in 1830 (because nudity was frowned upon by Christians), but most people didn't listen. Hula was still practiced privately and even publicly practiced, but with clothes. It was a loose 'ban'. In 1874, King Kalākau welcomed hula officially back into the palace. The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter
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  142.  The Four Horsemen  It's all historically accurate. I suggest you perform your own, independent research to verify and confirm. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  143.  @Wanderer628  My friend, don't brag so soon. Lol. Do you even know mo'olelo hawai'i? It certainly isn't as simple, cut-and-dry, black-and-white as you claim. Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  144.  @Wanderer628  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  145.  @Wanderer628  Kamehameha conquered and unified Hawai'i with great help from westerners (weapons, supplies, tactics, counsel, training and combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. Kamehameha rewarded Young and Davis (who were instrumental to his victories) with ali'i status, great wealth, governorships, and some even married into his royal family. The kanaka and haole were ohana. Queen Emma is the granddaughter of Young. Davis acted as mo'i when Kamehameha was away on travel. The kanaka and haole built the country together - from start to finish. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a multiethnic, multinational and multicultural society. By 1893, demographically, the Kingdom was roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerner and 1/3rd asian. Some wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted to replace it with a republic and some wanted annexation. And the rest is history. Unfortunately, the Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother.
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  146.  @Wanderer628  Try again, buddy. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report. You don't know Hawaiian history ;)
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  148. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  149. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  160.  @victorledezma6652  Do you think the video fairly and objectively discussed the history of Hawai'i? It left many inconvenient details out. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  163. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  170. They're not that good. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  173.  @LY-bi6sv   The United States didn't force it's culture upon Native Hawaiians (kanaka maoli). Kamehameha wouldn't have been able to conquer all the island chiefdoms and unify Hawai'i without great western help (weapons, supplies, counsel, training, tactics and combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with Native Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka, westerners and asians built the Hawaiian Kingdom from start to finish. They're all ohana and kama'āina. How did the U.S. 'force' Native Hawaiians to give up their culture? That never happened. It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian 1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian The Hawaiian Kingdom was a multiethnic, multinational and multicultural society. There are many different reasons as to why 'olelo hawai'i went extinct (assimilation, lack of use, shame, modernization, etc). However, the biggest thing that impacted Hawaiian culture was foreign disease. Over 90% of kanaka died because of disease (similar to Native Americans). All of that is obviously going to have a huge impact on the practice and decline of native languages.
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  175.  @larryharris7541  The U.S. didn't colonize Hawai'i. Lol. Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, it's not a colony. There, I educated you ;)
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  176.  @larryharris7541  Larry, you live next to a large local Hawaiian population? Probably some people who abandoned their kuleana and left the Rock for the mainland, yea? Lulz. And you watched some documentaries, too? Lol. That's your 'ike loa? Second and third hand knowledge? I doubt you know any real mo'olelo hawai'i. I have studied far more history and went deeper into our culture and primary sources than you ever have. Don't even try to flex. You might pull a muscle. The United States didn't 'steal' Hawai'i. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  180. King Kamehameha V was the first to limit voting rights with his constitution. The Hawaiian Kingdom Constitution of 1864 had income requirements, property requirements and a voter test. It disenfranchised voting rights for many denizens, especially the asian penal contract workers. Article 62: Every male subject of the Kingdom, who shall have paid his taxes, who shall have attained the age of twenty years, and shall have been domiciled in the Kingdom for one year immediately preceding the election; and shall be possessed of Real Property in this Kingdom, to the value over and above all incumbrances of One Hundred and Fifty Dollars of a Lease-hold property on which the rent is Twenty-five Dollars per year --or of an income of not less than Seventy-five Dollars per year , derived from any property or some lawful employment , and shall know how to read and write , if born since the year 1840... Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance
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  185. Hawai'i wasn't stolen, my friend. Most people don't know much about mo'olelo hawai'i. Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes.
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  192. There's many unmentioned topics.😉 Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost.
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  193. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  194. Nah, this vid is full of misinformation, historical inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda. But the editing and presentation is slick! The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  199.  @nasserineD  I'm glad you agree.😃 Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  200.  @richardramfire3971  Hawai'i isn't one of those 'horrible' things. The U.S. has also done many great things for the world. Every nation is beautiful and ugly. All you have to do is open up a history book. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  201.  @richardramfire3971  Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections.
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  203.  @HiperKich  The kanaka caused many island birds to go extinct due to human predation, habitat destruction and invasive plant and animal species. There's a great deal of archaeological, paleoenvironmental and anthropogenic evidence that the kupuna had a causal, destructive impact. The kanaka developed population centers in the flat lowlands. They used fire to burn and clear dry areas for agriculture to encourage pili grass for thatching. This converted lowland from dry-mesic forests to taiga grasslands. The fire-clearing, deforestation and cultivation was so heavy and extensive that James Cook, James King and George Vancouver recorded and discussed it in their voyage journals. This destroyed a great deal of habitat for birds, especially the ground-nesting ones. Next, the kanaka introduced invasive animals, such as dogs, chickens, pigs and the infamous pacific rat. The dogs would prey on ground birds, pigs would disrupt habitats, chickens would compete for food and the pacific rat caused all sorts of trouble (such as stealing all the seeds). Lastly, there were many large flightless birds. It was easy for the kanaka (and other animals) to catch them. There are archaelogical firepits with charred bird bones. The kanaka are responsible for the extinction of an estimated half of the the endemic bird species. The polynesians and their invasive, alien species inflicted massive damage to the native flora and fauna for a thousand years before any westerners visited the shores. They weren't great stewards of the land (like everyone else). Sorry, the harmonious indigenous people are a romantic myth. It's shallow, ethnic marketing and pseudo-cultural pride.
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  207.  @pakelika100  Let's take a look at the Larsen v Hawaiian Kingdom case that went to the Permanent Court of Arbitration. The Tribunal didn't award a decision in favor of the hawaiian sovereignty movement. Legally, the Court awarded nothing meaningful in the judgement. A rule for Larsen or Hawaiian Kingdom would've been a symbolic win. They got zilch. No win - for anyone. Larsen and 'Hawaiian Kingdom' both lost. The Tribunal clearly stated that the arbitration rules (that Larsen and Sai filed and agreed to) only dealt with international trade. INTERNATIONAL TRADE 😞 (Take a moment to let that sink in) and not territorial/boundary disputes. NOT TERRITORY BOUNDARY DISPUTES. The Tribunal was perplexed as to why both parties acted like friends👬, who presented the SAME evidence and showed no sign of disagreement (weird!). Larsen didn't even seek damages (weirder!). The Triubunal sat through this charade because both parties completed all the appropriate paperwork and paid for the adjudication. And how did the PCA adjudicate? They dismissed the case under the grounds that "there is no dispute between the parties capable of submission to arbitration" AND, even if it were, the sovereign state that owns the territory, the U.S., wasn't party to the proceedings. The U.S. would never join a flim flam arbitration case about "international trade".  Check out the arbitration award. The stated that they couldn't make a decision on whether the "Hawaiian Kingdom" existed in perpetuity: "the Tribunal can neither decide that Hawaii is not part of the USA, nor proceed on the assumption that it is not. To take either course would be to disregard a principle which goes to heart of the arbitral function in international law." David Sai staged a nice publicity stunt and created some sensational propaganda. And people gobbled it up. He came back empty-handed and made zero progress for his cause, but he still spiked the football and strutted around like a rooster🐓 who just laid an egg (unreal!). Why would the U.S. join this ridiculous arbitration case?
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  211.  @pakelika100  Larsen and Sai filed the arbitration case under the United Nations Commission on International Trade (UNCITRAL) arbitration rules, which doesn't apply to territory or boundary disputes. Even the Tribunal noted that "that neither the UNCITRAL Rules nor, for that matter, the UNCITRAL Model Law of International Commercial Arbitration (the Model Law) has any effect as such in international law." Larsen v Hawaiian Kingdom was file with the PCA as an international trade dispute. Furthermore, UNCITRAL doesn't require that parties be a state. UNCITRAL has been used to resolve a variety of arbitration disputes, such as those between private commercial parties where no arbitral institution is involved, investor-State disputes, State-to-State disputes and commercial disputes administered by arbitral institutions. Why did the Permanent Court of Arbitration hear Larsen v Hawaiian Kingdom? Great question!😆 Because both the claimant (Lance Larsen) and the respondent (Dr. David Keanu Sai) paid to have the court case adjudicated. They filled out all the necessary paperwork and listed 'Hawaiian Kingdom' as respondent. They could've listed 'Santa's Village', 'Narnia', 'Asgard' or 'The Lost City of Atlantis'. It doesn't matter. The Tribunal has to refer to what's filed on the paperwork. And what did they conclude? They declared that they CANNOT determine whether or not the 'Hawaiian Kingdom' does or does not exist today AND they only referred to that country in the PAST tense. The Tribunal reviewed the bogus case, quickly dismissed it and awarded no judgement for anyone. That's a goose egg, my friend. Go and read the arbitration award. The PCA didn't conclude that the 'Hawaiian Kingdom' still exists in perpetuity. Dr. David Keanu Sai desperately tries to con people into thinking that it does because he filed paperwork. Auwe, my friend, it takes more than filing paperwork to prove within court that a sovereign country still exists. Furthermore, anyone with basic common sense knows that you can't use international trade arbitration rules to settle boundary or territory disputes. It's a scam.
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  214.  @pakelika100  Do you even know Lance Larsen's complaint? Larsen received several fines for driving his car without a driver's license or a license plate. He received multiple fines for breaking Hawai'i State law. He refused to comply with the law and didn't pay the penalty fines so he was jailed for 30 days. Larsen accused Sai (self-proclaimed Regent Pro-Tem of the 'Hawaiin Kingdom') of failing to protect his rights as a 'Hawaiian Kingdom' citizen. Larsen and Sai were friends who conspired together to get a flim flam case (involving motor vehicle fines) submitted to the PCA. The Tribunal saw through their charade and dismissed the case. presumption - an idea that is taken to be true, and often used as the basis for other ideas, although it is not known for certain. Yes, Dr. David Keanu Sai has made the presumption that the Hawaiian Kingdom still exists in perpetuity. However, the Tribunal clearly stated that it doesn't share this presumption and, legally, cannot make such a declaration... because it's an arbitration case about international trade... and motor vehicles fines. Smh. Kamehameha V abrogated the 1852 Constitution and replaced it with HIS Constitution of 1864 (which was illegal and unconstitutional). The Hawaiian League abrogated the 1864 Constitution  and replaced it with THEIR Constitution of 1887 (which was illegal and unconstitutional). Queen Lili'uokalani tried to abrogate the 1887 Constitution and replace it with HER Constitution of 1893 (which was illegal and unconstitutional). Do you see the pattern? However, she failed miserably. Her political opponents led a successful counter-revolution to overthrow her. All revolutions are inherently illegal. Queen Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. The Kū'ē Petitions showed that a majority of kanaka opposed annexation, not a majority of hawaiians. The Hawaiian Kingdom was built by kanaka, westerners and asians. They were kama'āina and ohana. The Kingdom was a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society. Some wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted to replace it with a republic and others wanted annexation. The Kū'ē petitions don't matter because the royalists didn't have control of the government. In 1895, Robert Wilcox led a counter-revolution to reinstate the former queen, but the royalists were defeated in several battles. The new government defended its power and cemented its control over the country. There were some Hawaiians, Texans and Californians who opposed the annexation of their countries, but only the government's vote mattered. The Republic of Hawaii voted unanimously for annexation. China could try to annex the United States, but they'd have to fight us for it. The winner would  decide. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation. The U.S. accepted the offer and memorialized it with a joint resolution. Both countries formed a mutual, bilateral agreement that they accepted, approved and acted accordingly. The U.S. didn't just 'grab' Hawai'i. There was no United States or International Law of 1898 that stated only a treaty (and only a treaty) must be used for annexation of foreign land. Similarly, there were no laws of 1898 that said a joint resolution couldn't be used to memorialize an annexation agreement. Go ahead and name the law of 1898? No can? Racism? Brah, there was racism between kanaka and haole during the Kingdom and there is still racism between kanaka and haole today. Racism goes both ways. There are many beautiful (and ugly) parts to each culture and civilization. The kanaka and haole are no different. All you have to do is open up their history books. One man's hero is another's villain.
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  215.  @pakelika100  All of the Hawaiian Kingdom's international allies and treaty holders (all nineteen of them!) provide de facto, written and formal recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every transition of Hawai'i from Kingdom to U.S. Territory. Robert Wilcox led a counter-revolution in 1895 to reinstate Queen Lili'uokalani, but the royalists lost the battles. The new government defended its power and cemented its control over the country. After the Morgan report was released, President Cleveland withdrew his support to reinstate the former queen, reestablished diplomatic relations with the Republic and negotiated treaties with them. Queen Lili'uokalani TRIED to transfer her sovereign power to the United States, but the U.S. never accepted it. There was no meeting of the minds between Lili'uokalani and Cleveland where they both signed an agreement to transfer and accept power. The U.S. Congress never ratified any such agreement and the U.S. never held temporary sovereign power on behalf of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Cleveland only offered to help mediate a solution to the rebellion in Hawai'i. There was never a formal, binding agreement to do so. Hawai'i followed a path similar to Texas. Both failed annexation attempts using treaty, but were later annexed by joint resolution with one huge difference. The Newlands Resolution was passed by a TWO THIRDS majority by both the Senate and the House of Representatives, which exceeds the approval criteria of even a treaty. The House passsd the resolution with a vote of 209 to 91 (69%) on June 15, 1898. The Senate passed the resolution on July 6, 1898 with a tally of 42 to 21 (66%). President McKinley signed it on July 7, 1898. Ironically, if they chose to ratify another treaty, then it would've passed Congress. Regardless, the Newlands Resolution had 2/3rds support from both houses, which beats the ratification requirements of a treaty. The U.S. Constitution doesn't define the process and powers for annexation of foreign land. Article 6 doesn't cover it. President Jefferson ran into this problem when he wanted to acquire the Louisiana Territory. He wanted to make an amendment to fix this problem, but the Senate blocked him and thought a treaty was good enough. This same loophole allows a joint resolution to be used for annexation. There is no violation of the Constitution because the constitution is silent on this issue. There have been many instances in U.S. history where acts and joint resolutions have been used instead of treaties. The annexation of Texas and Hawai'i and end of World War I was achieved with joint resolution. And Texas is 41 times BIGGER than tiny Hawai'i. There are many more examples in this journal: "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" James W. Garner https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 A petition only matters if the government heeds the will of the people. Some people wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. The royalists were defeated. The rebels had firm control of the government from 1893 to 1898. That's five years of full control over the government apparatus. Did the Republic of Hawaii listen to the Kū'ē Petition? No. Does a petition have any legal and binding weight. No. Did the American colonists hold a public vote to secede from the British Empire? No, only the colonial governments voted, not the people. Did the Californians or Texans hold a public referendum for annexation? No, only the vote of their republican governments mattered. Did Kamehameha hold a plebiscite to unify Hawai'i? No, he used an axe, spear, knife, musket and cannon for his consensus building. There were always those who disagree with annexation. However, the most important thing is whether you are on the winning side of the revolution. Surrender is never a good 'survival' strategy. Again, if Russia tried to annex the U.S. with simple legislation, then the U.S. and Russia would most likely have to fight a war. The U.S. and Republic of Hawai'i never fought a war. The Republic of Hawaii offered an annexation deal, the U.S. accepted and it was memorialized with the Newlands Resolution, which was ratified with a TWO THIRDS majority by BOTH the Senate and House of Representatives. Clearly, you don't understand the Larsen v Hawaiian Kingdom case or the arbitration award. Effectively, Larsen and Sai were buddies who filled out all the necessary palapala to get a flim flam case about DMV fines into the PCA with international trade arbitration rules, but the Tribunal quickly dismissed the case because it had no merit and was outside their jurisdiction. Sai's presumption was null and void and his propaganda stunt was dead on arrival. That failed case did nothing to advance the independence movement. His Excellency has failed excellently for thirty years.
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  220.  @narutoamvs2878  The U.S. government provides certain benefits to kanaka maoli that are based on race. Serious Question. How are you going to administer social benefits based on RACE without blood quantum? Do you know how pissed off people would be if a person with 1% native hawaiian blood got $1/99yr Hawaiian Homelands and someone with 100% koko hawai'i did not? How would you administer race-based benefits? It ain't simple. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  222.  @pakelika100  Pat, you don't know mo'olelo hawai'i? This is grade school stuff. There's a lot of archaeological and anthropological evidence showing Marquesians as the first settlers of Hawai'i. They found many adzes, fishhooks, and pendants at early settlement sites that were similar. Both languages show linguistic evidence that the Hawaiian alelo has Marquesian roots. Computer simulations show that the Marquesians had over an 80 percent chance of reaching Hawai'i, based on their tradition of ‘imi fenua. The first wave of colonization by the Marquesians occurred between the third and fifth centuries. Even the 'legend' of the menehune support Marquesian early settlement. Everyone knows that multiple waves of polynesians migrated to Hawai'i. Everyone also agrees that 'magic elves' (the legend of little menehune) don't exist. Anthropology studies the characteristics of human societies and their evolution. Folklore is very important to social anthropology. The magical, elfish menehune (who were skilled craftspeople that built magnificent heiau, loko iʻa and other structures overnight) is most likely a modern folk tale (created after post-western contact). However, from an anthropological view, the menehune are very interesting. The Tahitian word for commoner is manahune. The manahune were the royal subjects and property of the ruling ari'i class. When theTahitians were conquered by people from Raiatea (who weren't very kind), 'manahune' took on the negative connotation ('lowly class'). If anyone resisted ar'i rule, then they were banished and lost all hereditary rights and social status. Here's one Tahitian mele that talks about how people were exiled to the mountains and sea: Go down to the depths of Toareva, Thy bones shall be scattered over the long road of exile; Forever shall thy face be covered with clouds of darkness; Thine eyes shall nevermore look upon the light of day; For you have tainted the blood of the gods. Go! We know you no more. The mountains and the sea are now your legacy. Modern people confused low social status with shortness in height. Thus, magic elves ;) The Marquesans don't have the word 'manahune' in their vocabulary. Their word for commoner is maka'āinana, which also became the accepted hawaiian word for commoners who tended the ahupua'a. The Tahitian manahune and the Marquesian/Hawaiian maka'āinana were royal subjects and commoners. When the Tahitians migrated to Hawai'i, they brought along with them a feudal caste structure and kapu. They took control of the islands and may have labeled the previous settlers as manahune, which later became menehune. Hawai'i has a long oral tradition and things change over time. Now, here's where it gets even more interesting. The 1820 Census of Kaua'i reported more than 2,000 people where 65 were reported as 'menehune'. This was a 'careful census' (conducted by Kaumuali'i) that officially reported the existence of menehune in government documents. Who were the menehune? They were descendants of the Marquesians who had arrived earlier.
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  231. Hawai'i wasn't colonized. Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). He wouldn't have been able to conquer all the island chiefdoms without great western help (weapons, supplies, tactics, training, counsel and combat support). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Many migrated to Hawai'i, built their lives and had children in Hawai'i. They were kama'āina. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. In 1851, King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate, but the Japanese emperor declined. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S. involvement in the Hawaiian Revolution of 1893. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. Cleveland withdrew his support to reinstate the former queen, reestablished diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Do Hawaiians share the same rights as everyone else? Yes, the Organic Act of 1900 gave U.S. citizenship to the Territory of Hawai'i and the State Admission Act of 1959 gave them full representation and voting rights in federal government. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  233. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  237. @Billy Mays The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  242. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  253.  @Unknown-ht5re  The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles, a local, Hawaiian militia force of 1,100 - 1,600, overthrew Lili'uokalani. They were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom (not U.S. forces). They were pissed that Lili'uokalani attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Queen Lili'uokalani, the royalists, the rebels and the American soldiers all testified that the U.S. soldiers DID NOT actively participate in the Revolution of 1893. Afterwards, the U.S., Britain and Japan sent warships to visibly prepare for an invasion, but the rebels didn't yield to their intimidation tactics. If the U.S. overthrew Hawai'i, then why didn't the rebels listen to the President (especially with the threat of invasion)??? President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate the alleged U.S. involvement. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. Cleveland then withdrew all his support to reinstate the former queen, re-established diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawai'i and even negotiated treaties with them. In 1898 (five years after the revolution), the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation and the U.S. accepted. All of the Hawaiian Kingdom's allies (all 19 of them!) provided de facto, written and formal recognition of Hawaii's transition from country to Provisional Government, to Republic of Hawaii, to Territory, to State. The international community legitimized every step of the process. That doesn't look at all like a hostile overthrow/annexation/conquest.
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  254.  @bobobsen  Nuanced view? Lol. Did you want me to provide wishy-washy support of your personal, uninformed bias that the United States 'stole' Hawai'i. If you read several of my comments, then you must've not learned much. You clearly don't know Hawaiian history. Please don't misinform yourself using a cheesy, short YouTube propaganda video. Put the actual work into it, my guy. History isn't simple, cut-and-dry, black-and-white. Educate yourself. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society. By 1893, the population was roughly equal parts kanaka, westerner and asian. Did you think that Hawai'i was only populated by kanaka maoli? Lol. They were all kama'āina, denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Did you think that Hawai'i had monolithic politics, with no internal conflict? The Hawaiian Kingdom was gradually torn apart by social, economic and political unrest. Hawai'i wanted to obtain protectorate status on many different occasions (with Great Britain, United States and Japan). They even made several requests for U.S. annexation. There is zero historical evidence that the United States actively used it's military to overthrow the monarchy. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Even Queen Lili'uokalani and the royalists testified to Commissioner Blount that the American soldiers showed no physical aggression. However, the Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles were a different story. They were very alarmed and pissed that THEIR Queen made an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. How was that stupid power play supposed to end? She instigated her own overthrow. Aloha 'Oe. Where do you see nuance? It's hard to play the sad victim card under those circumstances.
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  260. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  264.  @alapakeheanu4776  Real Hawaiian? Did kanaka build the Hawaiian Kingdom by themselves? Nope. The kanaka and haole built the Hawaiian Kingdom together - from start to finish. Kamehameha wouldn't have been able to CONQUER and 'unify' the islands without great help from westerners (weapons, supplies, training, tactics, counsel and combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. In 1893, demographically, Hawai'i was roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerner and 1/3rd asian. The Hawaiian Kingdom was multiethnic, multicultural and multinational. Real 'Hawaiians'??? Most 'Hawaiians' today are hapa, mixed with koko hawai'i, westerners and asians. There's only 4,000-8,000 pure 💯 kanaka maoli in Hawai'i. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  266.  @kanakaoiwi1609  True, the Hawaiian Kingdoms aligned itself with many different countries before Kamehameha unified all the islands (through war, conquest and intimidation). Unfortunately, the Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. The Hawaiian Kingdom did have friendly, but not perfect relations with Japan. The Hawaiian Kingdom condoned, managed and supported the penal contract labor system where many Japanese had to work in slave-like conditions on plantations. In 1881, Kalākaua proposed to the Japanese Emperor that they form a confederacy and make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate. He also wanted to arrange a marriage between his niece, Princess Ka’iulani, and Japan’s Prince Yamashina. The Emperor declined because he didn't want to upset the United State. During the 1887 Revolution, King Kalākaua asked his international allies for assistance, but they refused and advised him to accept the demands and reforms of the Hawaiian League. They weren't very eager to help. During the 1893 Revolution, British Minister Wodehouse requested support from Great Britain, but they declined. Japan wasn't eager to aid Hawai'i. In 1893, Japanese intellectuals viewed native hawaiians as dojin, a derogatory term for 'land people'. The Japanese considered native hawaiians as mentally, physically and culturally inferior. They thought westerners were more advanced and were disgusted with how the hawaiians didn't fight to protect their country (during the revolution). By that time, Japan was entering its period of modernization, imperialism and colonialism. They felt that the Pacific Islanders needed to be guided by a more advanced people. Hawai'i was an invaluable, strategic location for economic, political and military power in the Pacific. King Kamehameha wanted Hawai'i to be a British Protectorate. The ka hae hawai'i has the British Union Jack and design patterns of the United States flag. He wanted to endear himself to Britain and the U.S. Clearly, the Hawaiian Kingdom had close ties and an affinity for western countries and lifestyles. The United States had exclusive naval rights to Pearl Harbor due to the Treaty of Reciprocity of 1887, six years before the Revolution of 1893. There were many American politicians and businessmen who opposed the annexation. There was already significant American sugar production from Louisiana, Texas and Cuba. Hawaiian sugar was seen as an undesirable competitor. Of course, after Hawai'i was annexed, it became a territory where it entered a phase of absorption and integration into the U.S. The Treaty of Reciprocity 1875 made BOTH the Hawaiian Kingdom and sugar/fruit industries a lot of money. In 1874, Hawai'i generated $1.8M in exports. By 1890, it was $13.3M (an increase of over 700%). Then it went downhill. The U.S. Tariff Act of 1890 caused an economic depression in Hawai'i. Hawai'i had strong ties to the United States. U.S. Minister Stevens bragged that Hawaiian ports had much more U.S. flags than any other nations. British Minister Wodehouse complained to Britain that the U.S. had far too much influence. The United States didn't pursue the annexation of Hawai'i, but it eventually happened in a natural way. The Revolution of 1893 was the final tipping point.
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  267.  @Bthefilmer  Not that hard. The U.S. didn't cause the Revolution of 1887. Of course Kalākaua capitulated under duress and threat of overthrow. They were angry with his governance and controversies. However, King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action, he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. If the American colonists lost the Revolutionary War, then Great Britain would have punished, imprisoned and executed many of them - because what they did was also ILLEGAL. Kamehameha V was the first to overthrew the Hawaiian government in 1864 (also controversial during that time period). He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne. The Apology Resolution (Public Law 103-150) addressed the Revolution of 1893 and alleged U.S. involvement. It doesn't involve the Revolution of 1887 ('Bayonet Constitution'). Also, the Apology Resolution was an OPINION statement, based on the huge number of whereas clauses. It didn't have any legal and actionable effect. And it certainly did nothing to invalidate the Morgan Report. The Morgan Report was the last official conclusion on the matter, and it exonerated the U.S. military and its agents. To this day, nothing has overturned or superceded it.
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  271. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  273.  @kurtbrandso2087  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost.
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  274.  @kurtbrandso2087  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  277.  @zoda5898  There is no significant difference. The Marquesians migrated to Hawai'i first. They were the FIRST aboriginal settlers. Then the Tahitians showed up and took control of the islands. Power shift. After that, the chiefdoms fought amongst themselves stealing the land back and forth until... Kamehameha steamrolled all the chiefdoms with western help (weapons, supplies, counsel, training, tactics and combat support). Until then, it was impossible to conquer and maintain control of all of the islands. It's called Hawai'i because the Big Island conquered all of the other islands to create the Kingdom of Hawai'i. Please spare me the "Who had it first" argument. It doesn't matter who had it first, but who has it now. Hawai'i is part of the United States. We're not ruled by the mo'i, ali'i, konohiki or queen. We live in a diverse society with people from all over the world. If every defeated people pissed and moaned about the land they lost, then this world would be stuck in endless struggle, conflict and warfare. Do you think the Marquesians, Tahitians, Chiefdoms, Mo'i, and Monarchy were happy when they lost? Do you think the islands liked being conquered by Kamehameha? Nope. The United States never fought any battles or wars with the Hawaiian Kingdom. Queen Lili'uokalani attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab, which led to the Revolution of 1893. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles (1,100 - 1,600 militiamen) took control of the country. They were all denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation and the U.S. granted it.
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  281. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  286. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter.
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  291. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  303. Hawai'i wasn't colonized. Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, Hawai'i wasn't a colony.
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  309. Half-assed summary ;) The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  310.  @alapakeheanu4776  Japan and England weren't ready and willing to go to war against the United States over Hawai'i. In 1881, Kalākaua proposed to the Japanese Emperor that they form a confederacy and make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate. He also wanted to arrange a marriage between his niece, Princess Ka’iulani, and Japan’s Prince Yamashina. The Emperor declined because he didn't want to upset the United State. Japan would never have gone to war against the U.S. in 1893. If Japan did propose war, then this would've made huge internatioal news and bolstered the argument (and fear) that Japan wanted to acquire Hawai'i. During the 1887 Revolution, King Kalākaua asked his international allies for assistance, but they refused and advised him to accept the demands and reforms of the Hawaiian League. They weren't very eager to help. During the 1893 Revolution, British Minister Wodehouse requested support from Great Britain, but they declined. Great Britain and Japan weren't eager to fight the U.S. over Hawai'i. You're sadly mistaken or confused. Great Britain and Japan were willing to JOIN the United States, who had threatened military action against the Provisional Government to resinstate the deposed Queen. If the U.S. actually invaded and overthrew the monarchy, then it would be very easy to reinstate Lili'uokalani. But it wasn't. Queen Lili'uokalani was overthrown by a good ol' fashioned homegrown coup who were also citizens, denizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i. They were kama'āina and also a few kanaka. They basically told the U.S. to pound sand. President Cleveland sent two American warships to Hawai'i. The warships aimed their guns at the capital and visibly prepared for an amphibious assault and invasion. Great Britain and Japan wanted to join and help the United States with the invasion. They wanted to intimidate the Provisional Government, but it didn't work. Eight days later, American Minister Wodehouse admitted to President Dole that the invasion threat was just a heavy handed negotiation tactic. In 1893, Japanese intellectuals viewed native hawaiians as dojin, a derogatory term for 'land people'. The Japanese considered native hawaiians as mentally, physically and culturally inferior. By that time, Japan was entering its period of modernization, imperialism and colonialism. They felt that the Pacific Islanders needed to be guided by a more advanced people. Hawai'i was an invaluable, strategic location for economic, political and military power in the Pacific.
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  314. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. King Kalākaua tried to arrange a marriage with the Emperor of Japan between a Hawaiian Princess and a Japanese Prince and he wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate... BUT the Emperor politely declined because the Prince was already promised to marry someone else AND he didn't want to upset/amtagonize the United States.
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  315. Some kanaka are salty like the Pacific Ocean. They ignore all of the injustices committed by the mo'i, ali'i and konohiki, but they want to cry bloody murder at how the greedy queen and her royalists were defeated by 'haole' (who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom). The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball.
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  317.  @michaelvalmo  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  319.  @guzman-do  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  321.  @guzman-do  Try again, chief.😄 Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged American involvement in the hawaiian revolution. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. That was the final nail in the coffin. Cleveland withdrew his support for the reinstatement of the deposed queen. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance. Haole means 'foreigner'. Go ahead, try and claim differently. You don't know mo'olelo hawai'i.😁👌
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  322.  @guzman-do  Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  325.  @ProfessorEGadd  Hawai'i is strategically located in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, which makes it invaluable for economic, political and military power. It lacks the minerals and resources to sustain an advanced, modern society (such as mineral ore and fossil fuels). It's remote location makes imports and exports very expensive, due to shipping cost and transit time. 90% of Hawaii's energy is imported. Agriculture is dead because it can't compete with mainland America or Asia. Economically, the two largest industries are Tourism ($16B) and Military ($16B). A free and independent Hawai'i has very little economic and military power. The Hawaiian Kingdom often depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i needs the protection of a Big Brother.
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  327.  @pakelika100  So Pat, you're also unable to state the specific United States or International Law of 1898 that requires that a treaty (and only a treaty) be used for annexation of foreign land. Oh boy, you activists are caught in hard rub. You can't take today's laws and use them to adjudicate historical events that happened before those laws even existed. Time machine, maybe? The law doesn't work that way. If it did, then do you know how many countries would be in trouble??? Every one of them - even the Hawaiian Kingdom. Kamehameha committed many human rights violations when he stole all the land for his Kingdom (cough, empire, cough!). He was a warlord and imperialist that committed many war crimes, atrocities and human rights violations. Prior to modern international law, customary international law was based on natural law, was non-binding, lacked jurisdiction and was almost impossible to enforce between states. It was a loose patchwork of customs, norms and legal ideas that was informal. Customary international laws weren't coalesced, formalized, codified and, most importantly, accepted until the early 20th century, AFTER the annexation. The applicable, formal, established multi-lateral laws of the Hague, Geneva Convention, International Court, etc didn't exist back in 1898. Customary international law had no teeth back then. Chew on that!😄 The United States has acquired foreign territory through many different ways. The Republic of Texas requested annexation by the United States and the U.S. accepted it with a joint resolution in 1845. This set a legal precedent, which allowed the U.S. to annex foreign land with joint resolution. The Republic of Hawai'i REQUESTED annexation by the United States and the U.S. ACCEPTED the offer in 1898, which memorialized the bilateral, mutual agreement. The Newlands Resolution was ratified by BOTH the Senate and the House of Representatives with a TWO THIRDS MAJORITY, which exceeds the approval criteria of a Treaty. Both Houses! Two Thirds Majority! You get the point. Both parties (the Republic of Hawaii and the U.S.) agreed to, adhered to and acted in accordance with the terms of the agreement. The Republic of Hawaii didn't resist or oppose annexation. In fact, they initiated the annexation process. They sent out the invitation. Unfortunately, the (former) royalists were not happy (obviously). But it's not abnormal to have dissenters (sour grapes). When Texas was annexed, there were also some citizens who objected. And that's normal. However, only the government's voice matters. The Republic of Hawaii CHOSE annexation (just like the Republic of Texas). Not only did the Republic of Hawaii propose annexation, its Legislature unanimously APPROVED it. That is CONSENT.👫💝 Again, I will ask you to specify the U.S. or International Law of 1898 that prescribes that a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for the annexation of foreign land. No can? Oppenheim published his International Law Volumes I and II in 1905 and 1906, respectively (which is also well after the 1898 overthrow and also just academic books). Was the United States a member party to any international organizations or agreements that required it, by law, to use a treaty (and only a treaty) for annexation of foreign land? No. The Hawaiian independence activists want to use laws and agreements that were created AFTER the annexation of 1898 to somehow de-legitimize the annexation... with laws and agreements that didn't even exist during that time period. Again, do you have a time machine? The U.S. Constitution doesn't define how to annex foreign land, which is still true, even today. The Constitution is silent on the issue. Article VI doesn't state that a Treaty must be used for annexation of foreign land (but nice try😉). President Thomas Jefferson, Architect of the Constitution (and strict constitutionalist), ran into this same exact problem when he tried to aquire the Lousiana Territory. He quickly observed that the Constitution didn't define the process or enumerate the powers to annex foreign land. He argued that the Constitution has no provisions to take on foreign territores: "The General Government has no powers but such as the Constitution gives it… it has not given it power of holding foreign territory, and still less of incorporating it into the Union. An amendment of the Constitution seems necessary for this.” He drafted an Amendment to the Constitution to define the processs and powers. However, the Senate disregarded his draft, blocked him, preferred to loosely interpret the constitution, and thought a treaty was 'good enough'. Since the constitution was never ammended, the same loose interpretation allows a treaty, joint resolution or any other agreement mechanism to be used to annex foreign land. The Newlands Resolution was a satisfactory mechanism to memorialize the mutual, bilateral agreement to cede the Hawaiian territory to the United States. Now, the activists continue to stamp and shout, "Show me the Treaty!😠", but, when you ask them to "Show me the Law that Requires Me to Show You a Treaty😏", they got bumpkiss and whimper off. Lol. A treaty isn't the only mechanism for establishing international agreements. The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 Furthermore, in the modern era, Presidential executive orders have also served the same function as a treaty. Acts, Joint Resolutions and Executive orders can take the place of treaties. But... But... But I thought treaties are the ONLY way to establish international agreements! Nope. The Department of Justice issued a memorandum opinion in 1988. Opinions change over time, administration-to-administration. But opinions aren't fact or law. When the Hawaiian Annexation question was being debated, many people looked at its constitutionality. Congress decided that a joint resolution was perfectly adequate to memorialize an annexation agreement. That's how the debate ended. That's a Fact.😉
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  328.  @pakelika100  Pat, the U.S. ended World War I with the Knox-Porter joint resolution. That's not very 'municipal'. Lol. Texas was annexed via joint resolution H.J. Res. 46 and it's forty-one (41) times bigger than the Aloha State. That set the legal precedent for annexation of foreign territory via joint resolution. My condolences. Hawai'i was annexed with the Newlands Resolution, which was ratified by both the Senate and House of Representatives with a two thirds majority. A treaty requires only two thirds majority from just the Senate. In 1898, the U.S. wasn't bound by any international law, agreement or member organization that required a treaty (and only a treaty). Thems the breaks. What U.S. law of 1898 states that a joint resolution cannot be used for the annexation of foreign land? There is none. There's more than one way to skin a cat.😉 Strawman? That's Dr. David Keanu Sai's 'aumakua and genealogical line of ressoning. His fallacies run deep. All he can do is gaze at an upside down flag and make upside down arguments about a long dead Kingdom. Lol I'll say it again (so the back row can hear). You can't apply today's laws to historical events that occurred before the laws were even created. Dr. David Keanu Lie almost exclusively applies today's international laws, frameworks and institutions (such as the Hague and Geneva Conventions) to a historical period where the applicable laws and systems didn't even exist. That braddah needs to trade in his Yota for the Doc's DeLorean, cuz he needs to either go Back to the Future or Back to the Drawing Board. Armed conflict? Military occupation? You running a fever? Can you name a battle or war between the U.S. and Hawaiian Kingdom? Nope. What was the combat death toll? Zero, because there was no combat. How many U.S. soldiers landed during the Revolution of 1893? 162 marines and sailors (SAILORS!). Did they fight? No. Did they actively participate in the revolution? No. Did they return back to the U.S.S. Boston?  Yes.     Wow! Your 'American military occupation' argument is totally unsupported. It sounds more like political histrionics. No doubt, the British Empire viewed the American Rebels (such as George Washington) as secessionists, terrorists and traitors. Queen Lili'uokalani felt the same about the Hawaiian Rebels who overthrew her monarchy. The losers always paint themselves as 'victims'.  Do you know what's silly (and irresponsible)? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to prorogue the legislature, abrogate the constitution, unilaterally create her own constitution, strengthen her autocratic powers and use the military to defend her revolution. Nobody forced the Queen to Act Stupid. She gave her political enemies ample rope to hang her with... and they hung her out to dry. That's on her crownless head.
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  331. Why did President Clinton issue an 'apology'? Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter. President Harrison, Cleveland, McKinley, ..., Clinton, etc all had different opinions on the annexation of Hawai'i. What matters the most is what actually happened? The people who cry foul play and claim that the Big Bad U.S. 'stole' Hawai'i are grossly distorting the truth to fit their own political narrative and agenda. There's plenty of primary sources from that historical period that prove otherwise. Things were far more complicated than they want to admit. Queen Lili'uokalani played a HUGE role in instigating her overthrow by her own countrymen.
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  337. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  342. No we didn't steal Hawai'i. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  347. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  352.  @midimusicforever  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  353.  @mariobeanes4430  Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  355. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter.
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  358.  @zin.nesis1  Do you even know Hawaiian history? Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Queen Lili'uokalani, the royalists, rebels and American soldiers all formally testified that the U.S. military played no active role in the Revolution of 1893. Huge Difference.
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  371. Not in Hawai'i. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  378. It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  386.  @lovemoviesful2  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  390. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  391. Hawai'i is nothing like Kuwait. Lol. Iraq launched a real military invasion and conquered Kuwait with violent, military FORCE . The United States fought the Persian Gulf War to liberate Kuwait. The U.S. never fought any major battles or wars with the Hawaiian Kingdom. It didn't invade or conquer Hawai'i. The American troops didn't actively participate in the Revolution of 1893. The Committee of Safey and Honolulu Rifles (an armed force of 1,100 - 1,600 militiamen) overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she tried an illegal and unconstitutional power grab to strengthen her autocratic powers. The monarchy was overthrown by a local rebellion that established a new Provisional Government, then the Republic of Hawaii and later requested and received annexation by the United States. Nobody fought a war with the Republic of Hawaii to 'liberate' Hawai'i. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any alleged wrongdoing. President Cleveland withdrew his support to reinstate the deposed queen, reestablished diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. All of the Hawaiian Kingdom's allies and treaty partners (all nineteen of them) provided de facto and formal, written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The International Community legitimized every transition from Hawaiian Kingdom to U.S. Territory. Hawai'i and Kuwait are not the same.
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  392.  @hawaiianhistory1012  The U.S.S. Boston deployed 162 marines and sailors as a peacekeeping force under commands of neutrality to protect American life and property. They didn't fight with the insurgents, raid any buildings or provide any material support. The Blount and Morgan reports didn't document any physicsl aggression by the U.S. soldiers. That's hardly a military invasion force. The Honolulu Rifles (who were very well trained) had a militia force of about 1,100 - 1,600 men (who were well supplied and had raided a local armory). That, on the other hand, is a LARGE armed insurgency. No, Queen Lili'uokalani wouldn't have been able to "easily put down" the rebellion. The royalists had about 950 men, with about a dozen artillery pieces and a gatling gun. Queen Liliuokalani could've TRIED to defend her government from the revolution. It would've been a bloody battle, for sure. After realizing this, she got cold feet and surrendered. She thought (hoped) President Harrison or her good friend Grover Cleveland (president-elect who would take office in six weeks) would restore her government. Wishful thinking. That was a grave miscalculation. She thought the U.S. would fight her battle. However, it was her responsibility to defend her government, but she didn't. After annexation, all people (who lived in Hawai'i) became U.S. citizens after the Organic Act of 1900 and all people born in Hawai'i (including the children of immigrants) became U.S. citizens with the right to vote due to the 14th Amendment. Asian immigrants who arrived AFTER the Organic Act didn't have the right to vote. In 1920, women got the right to vote (which had never happened in Hawai'i). Native Hawaiians were a majority of the voters all the way through the 1930s; native hawaiian activists even lobbied hard for statehood (Prince Kūhio even authored the first Hawai'i Statehood bill in 1819). Congress allowed Chinese immigrants to become citizens in 1943 and later Japanese and other Asian immigrants got the right in 1952. In 1959, everyone got the right to vote for U.S. representatives, senators and the president after they became a State. That's the full picture of voting rights in Hawai'i :) Racism? Sure, there was some racism by the Hawaiian Kingdom and United States against Asians and vice versa. For example, the Hawaiian Kingdom promoted, supported and maintained the asian penal contract labor system, which (thankfully) ended after U.S. Annexation with the Organic Act of 1900.
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  393.  @hawaiianhistory1012  It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that transitioned rom Native Hawaiian medium schools to English-only immersion schools. Many people don't know about (or blatantly ignore) the English initiatives of the King and Legislature. In 1882, the Board of Education implemented a policy where all academic subjects were to be taught only in English and all other languages were discouraged (Kanaka, Japanese, Portuguese, Filipino, etc). They believed that total immersion would lead to quicker English language proficiency. Between 1834-1948, there were over 100 different Hawaiian language newspapers. Furthermore, some Hawaiian newspapers actively opposed the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and the Annexation. There wasn't a public-wide ban of the 'olelo. The 'olelo was not used for formal school instruction (based on Hawaiian Kingdom long-term policy trends), but the Hawaiian Language was still available as an elective course at the high school level. More importantly, the language wasn't 'banned' in private and other public spaces. If the ohana didn't pass on the 'olelo hawai'i to their keike, then that's on them. Culture and language always starts at home. The Japanese penal contract laborers endured truly harsh social, economic and political conditions and disadvantages. However, they were able to maintain their native language with community support and secondary language schools. Meanwhile, the kanaka voluntarily allowed their language to dwindle for various reasons (more advantageous and beneficial, Hawaiian Kingdom policy, perceived shame of speaking native tongue, embracing Western ideals, etc). There was no law that abolished the language. There are some who perpetuate a 'ban' as propaganda, but they don't have history to back them up.
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  394.  @hawaiianhistory1012  It's no secret that John Stevens was pro-annexation. Before and after the revolution of 1893, he promoted the annexation, often in official U.S. correspondence. However, that doesn't mean that he or the United States overthrew the Monarchy. Queen Lili'uokalani was trying to make an illegal power grab. She wanted to prorogate the legislature, abrogate the existing constitution, unilaterally create her own constitution, strengthen her autocratic power and use the military to defend her revolution (which was highly illegal and unconstitutional). Nobody forced her to do that. Her political opponents found out, organized, mobilized, and led a successful counter-revolution to overthrow her. They asked the United States for help. Stevens offered political support to the rebels, just like other nations provided American colonists political support during their War for Independence. He told them that if they could take control of the government buildings, such as the police station, then the U.S. would recognize their provisional government. Did the U.S. soldiers actively participate in the revolution? No.The U.S. soldiers were given strict commands to protect American life and property. They didn't patrol any streets, surround any buildings, raid an office buildings or provide any material aid to the rebels. The soldiers marched past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen and lowered their flag, which is the international sign of neutrality. There is no 'smoking gun' because the U.S. didn't fire a single shot. The United States politically helped the Hawaiian Kingdom many times, such as during the French Crisis, Paulet Annexation Crisis and Kalākaua Election Riots. There's no problem with Stevens providing political support against the Queen's illegal plans to overthrow the government and defend her position with military force. The Blount Report and Morgan Report agreed that the U.S. Military acted honorably, successfully carried out their mission and remained neutral. Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. The Queen and Hui Kālaiʻāina opposed the 1887 Constitution. They wanted to amend it and regain power. They organized a petition for a new constitution. Lili'uokalani claimed that "out of a possible 9500 registered voters, 6500, or two-thirds, had signed these petitions" and she couldn't ignore their request and be "deaf to the voice of the people, which tradition tells us is the voice of God." Unfortunately, the petitions have been lost to history, only a small, incomplete part remains. Queen Lili'uokalani repeatedly tried to ammend the 1887 Constitution, but all her efforts failed. So she tried a very risky and illegal move. She wanted to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogate the legislature, unilaterally make her own, promulgate it via (magical) royal proclamation and defend her revolution with the military. This was very illegal and unconstitutional. And it backfired on her - very badly. She instigated her own overthrow. She used the 'will of the people' as a pretense for a power grab.
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  395.  @hawaiianhistory1012  The Hawaiian Kingdom Constitution of 1864 had income requirements, property requirements and a voter test. It disenfranchised voting rights for many people, especially poor kanaka and asians Article 62: Every male subject of the Kingdom, who shall have paid his taxes, who shall have attained the age of twenty years, and shall have been domiciled in the Kingdom for one year immediately preceding the election; and shall be possessed of Real Property in this Kingdom, to the value over and above all incumbrances of One Hundred and Fifty Dollars of a Lease-hold property on which the rent is Twenty-five Dollars per year --or of an income of not less than Seventy-five Dollars per year , derived from any property or some lawful employment , and shall know how to read and write , if born since the year 1840... There were some people on both sides of this debate who used racist arguments to support/oppose annexation. Blount and Morgan both had checkered, racist pasts. However, the Morgan report was considered to be the more thorough and objective report because witness interviews happened in public under sworn oath and with cross examination and he interviewed participants from all sides, which had not happened in the Blount investigation. Many people criticized the integrity of Blount's investigation. The Morgan Report is still the official, final word on the Revolution of 1893. Commissioner Blount was the only person who investigated and wrote the Blount Report. President Cleveland secretely appointed one (1) person to act on his behalf, delegated him a high level of authority and power, didn't receive Senate confirmation and he didn't even notify the Senate of his appointment. Cleveland gave one man paramount power and secret instructions to investigate the revolution and provisional government. And how did Blount conduct his investigation? He had private and informal conversations with royalists and annexationists. However, he only requested that royalists meet with him to give formal statements, which weren't under oath, and they were recorded by a stenographer to be later memorialized in the Blount Report. After only ONE WEEK in office, President Cleveland empowered ONE MAN to secretly conduct an investigation that was lopsided and lacked integrity. Cleveland was trying to reinstate his friend Liliuokalani as soon as possible. Blount falsely claimed that the United States military and agents overthrew the government. The U.S. President (Cleveland) was a Democrat and the Democrats had majority control of the Senate. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations consisted of nine (9) members - five (5) Democrats and four (4) Republicans. The Blount Report involved one person while the Morgan Report involved a Committee of nine, non-partisan committee members of the Senate. The Committee on Foreign Relations required  that 1) witnesses from both sides (royalist and annexationist) undergo formal interview, 2) interviews occurred in open, public hearings, 3) witnesses were sworn under oath to tell the truth and 4) witnesses could be cross-examined. In contrast, Blount held formal interviews with only royalists, held secret, private meetings, didn't require testimony under oath and there was no cross-examination. The Morgan Report repudiated the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations conducted a more objective, non-biased, transparent and procedural investigation than Blount. Even the dissenting monority opinion agreed that U.S. soldiers remained neutral during the overthrow. The Morgan Report is still, to this day, the official, last word and final government report on U.S. military involvement in the Hawaiian overthrow.
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  396.  @hawaiianhistory1012  The Treaty of Reciprocity 1875 made BOTH the Hawaiian Kingdom and sugar/fruit industries a lot of money. In 1874, Hawai'i generated $1.8M in exports. By 1890, it was $13.3M (an increase of over 700%). Then it went downhill. The U.S. Tariff Act of 1890 caused an economic depression in Hawai'i. Sanford B. Dole was a lawyer and later became President of the Republic of Hawaii. James Dole was his cousin and he migrated to Hawai'i in 1899 (six years AFTER the overthrow). Sanford Dole wasn't a 'fruit oligarch'. There were many American politicians and businesses who opposed annexation of Hawai'i because of it's undesired competition to local industries. For example, the U.S. already had significant sugar production from Louisiana, Texas and Cuba. Many wanted Hawaiian sugar out of the American marketplace. Saddam Hussein was a brutal Iraqi dictator who invaded and conquered Kuwait with military force. It was a war. There were 420 Kuwaitis killed and 12,000 captured. Since when did Saddam Hussein become an expert on mo'olelo hawai'i? Lol. He clearly used Hawai'i as propaganda to justify and defend his military conquest. Does the hawaiian independence movement really want to rely on SADDAM HUSSEIN for expert testimony? I think not. Let's take a look at the Larsen v Hawaiian Kingdom case that went to the Permanent Court of Arbitration. The Tribunal didn't award a decision in favor of the hawaiian sovereignty movement. Legally, the Court awarded nothing meaningful in the judgement. A rule for Larsen or Hawaiian Kingdom would've been a symbolic win. They got zilch. No win - for anyone. Larsen and 'Hawaiian Kingdom' both lost. The Tribunal clearly stated that the arbitration rules (that Larsen and Sai filed and agreed to) only dealt with international trade. INTERNATIONAL TRADE 😞 (Take a moment to let that sink in) and not territorial/boundary disputes. NOT TERRITORY BOUNDARY DISPUTES. The Tribunal was perplexed as to why both parties acted like friends👬, who presented the SAME evidence and showed no sign of disagreement (weird!). Larsen didn't even seek damages (weirder!). The Triubunal sat through this charade because both parties completed all the appropriate paperwork and paid for the adjudication. And how did the PCA adjudicate? They dismissed the case under the grounds that "there is no dispute between the parties capable of submission to arbitration" AND, even if it were, the sovereign state that owns the territory, the U.S., wasn't party to the proceedings. The U.S. would never join a flim flam arbitration case about "international trade".  Check out the arbitration award. The stated that they couldn't make a decision on whether the "Hawaiian Kingdom" existed in perpetuity: "the Tribunal can neither decide that Hawaii is not part of the USA, nor proceed on the assumption that it is not. To take either course would be to disregard a principle which goes to heart of the arbitral function in international law." David Sai staged a nice publicity stunt and created some sensational propaganda. And people gobbled it up. He came back empty-handed and made zero progress for his cause, but he still spiked the football and strutted around like a rooster🐓 who just laid an egg (unreal!). Dr. David Keanu Sai is a revisionist historian who tries to retroactively apply today's laws to historical events that happened before the laws were created, which obviously can't be done.
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  397.  @hawaiianhistory1012  In the Hawaiian Kingdom, the kanaka midde class and (especially) upper class elites were bilingual. They went to the best schools and many, such as Queen Lili'uokalani, were sent abroad to western countries for education. Furthermore, the Hawaiian Kingdom implemented an education policy where most medium schools transitioned to full immersion, english-only schools. By 1892 (one year before the revolution), 95% of all schools were english-only. Many kanaka (leaders, academics, etc) knew both 'olelo hawai'i and english. Remember, Hawai'i had an excellent literacy rate! Between 1834-1948, there were over 100 different Hawaiian language newspapers. There were no sedition acts that prevented freedom of speech. Native hawaiians were able to share their voice and it was recorded in history. So it's pretty laughable when you claim that kanaka voices were not represented in history books. Independence activists pretend that there's an entire treasure trove of 'secret' information that has just been discovered - over 100 years after the Revolution of 1893. That's not true. It's always been there, in plain view of everyone and readily accessible. Did Queen Lili'uokalani and the royalists not have access to this 'hidden' knowledge? Lol. If there was some kind of never-before-seen, 'brand new', smoking gun historical evidence, then activists would be parading it around... but, no, they got nuthin'. That's a hard rub, cousin. Please don't try and compare Hawai'i to Poland in World War II. Did the Committee of Safety launch an air and ground blitzkrieg to pound the Kingdom into submission? No. Did the Honolulu Rifles construct concentration, work and death camps to exterminate undesirable kanaka? No. There's no comparison. The Revolution of 1893 was a peaceful and bloodless coup that overthrew a queen who was attempting an unconstitutional and illegal power grab. She surrendered after one day. At least the Poles fought to defend their country against a much superior and powerful military force. Meanwhile, the hawaiian rebels rolled the royalists like a coconut into the ocean. The NEA is a progressive, liberal labor union. Education history textbooks, in general, do not cover history in depth. I wouldn't be surprised if some independence activist propaganda made it into some classrooms. Dr. David Keanu Sai is a revisionist historian who wants to retroactively apply today's laws to historocal events that occurred before the laws were even created, which obviously can't be done. Sai has even written some sketchy articles for the NEA; they're full of historical inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda. He openly talks about controlling the narrative. No doubt, he is a biased and non-objective source of information. Ken Conklin? Who's he? Another hawaiian independence activist? Brah, are you telling me that only people, who fluently speak the 'olelo, can talk about Hawaii's history? No can. You're trying to silence a lot of kanaka, hapa and haole (who don't know the native language). That's messed up! Hewa. Everyone can talk about hawaiian history and issues. Hawai'i Nei is a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society (just like it was during the Kingdom). Everyone's voice has mana. Everyone can talk story. Be better, do better.
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  405. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  409. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  414. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  418. Brah, this wasn't even close. This video was full of historical inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda.  The U.S. didn't 'conquer' or 'steal' Hawai'i with force. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  421.  @harsha2993  Are you sure? Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together and became one ohana, blended by aloha. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Mahalo.
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  434.  @xBrabus76  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  439.  @bishopduperret9158  Try again, brah. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  440.  @bishopduperret9158  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  443.  @HaunaniPao  Here's one example. The United States didn't 'steal' Hawai'i. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  444.  @HaunaniPao  President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S. involvement. The Senate Committee of Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. Why? Because there was no evidence from either side (rebels or royalists) that the American soldiers actively participated in the revolution. There were 162 peaceful U.S. marines and SAILORS versus 1,100-1,600 Honolulu Rifles of local hawaiians who raided the armory, patrolled the streets, surrounded government building, raided offices, engaged in small skirmishes and overthrew the monarchy. Meanwhile, the U.S. soldiers, by every account, took no hostile actions. Furthermore, Queen Lili'uokalani even ADMITTED in her written, formal testimony to Commissioner Blount (and later in her OWN book, Hawaii's Story, Appendix B) that she tried to prorogate the legislature, abrogate the existing constitution, unilaterally create and proclaim her OWN constitution, strengthen her autocratic powers and defend her revolution with military force (which was highly illegal and unconstitutional). After reviewing the Morgan Report, President Cleveland then withdrew all of his support to reinstate the deposed queen, re-established diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii, and negotiated treaties with them. The Queen instigated her own overthrow. This is what Queen Lili'uokalani wrote in her own book: Queen Lili'uokalani: I told them it was my intention to promulgate a new constitution... At 12pm, I prorogued the legislature... Early in January I mentioned to Captain Nowlein of the household guards, and Mr. Wilson the marshall, my intentions to promulgate a new constitution, and to prepare themselves to quell any riot or outbreak from the opposition. They assured me they would be ready; and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy... Queen Lili'uokalani was overthrown by the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles, who were her own countrymen and royal subjects. She was overthrown by a local Hawaiian militia force that consisted of 1,100 - 1,600 men. The Americans only landed a neutral peacekeeping force of 162 soldiers (marines and SAILORS). Queen Lili'uokalani, the royalists, the insurgents and the American soldiers all testified that the U.S. military didn't actively participate in the Revolution of 1893.
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  445.  @HaunaniPao  I think Hawai'i would've eventually become a protectorate, then bq territory and, finally, incorporated into the United States. The U.S. had strong ties with Hawai'i, throughout its history. American presence and influence was so strong that U.S. ships greatly outnumbered all other countries and British Minister Wodehouse worried that American-U.S. ties were inevitable. Unfortunately, the Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, the Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested protectorate status by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. Later, in 1854, Kamehameha III entered into negotiation for annexation by the U.S., but negotiations ended after he died and the next Mo'i withdrew. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. It's very hard for a remote island, stuck in the middle of the Pacific Ocean to achieve social, economic and political stability in a modern world of ocean-faring super-powers. Eventually, Kūhio or someone else would make the deal.
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  447.  @HaunaniPao  I don't know if the United States would've treated kanaka any better or worse. The ali'i didn't exactly do a great job of taking care of kanaka maoli. The Great Māhele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the āina for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. These land policies greatly hurt the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the ahupua'a for generations. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. Kanaka, Westerners and Asians built the Hawaiian Kingdom, from start to finish, and became ohana. They blended cultures and helped create something new and beautiful. Greedy rich native hawaiians are no different than greedy rich haole... because greed is greed. Do you think the ruling ali'i class could've done a better job of guiding Hawai'i through modernization and helping its people?
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  448.  @HaunaniPao  Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter. Who's peace did the U.S. keep? Well, Hawai'i didn't erupt into a Civil War. The Queen tried to lead a revolution, which caused a national crisis. By definition, her actions were illegal and unconstitutional. She did try to make a power grab. Did you expect the U.S. to defend her and the monarchy?
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  455. It's nothing like that. Lol. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  459.  @tieyiklunmliu  Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Do native hawaiians have the same rights as U.S. citizens? Yes, the Organic Act of 1900 gave everyone U.S. citizenship and the Statehood act allowed them to have congressional representations and to vote in federal elections. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  460.  @tieyiklunmliu  It wasn't a colony. Clearly, you don't know what a colony is ;) And, no, the United States didn't conquer Hawai'i. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  461.  @tieyiklunmliu  Dp you know why there was a large wealth gap between kanaka maoli and westerners in Hawai'i? Because of the legacy of its feudal caste system. The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball.
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  463. Did you think this video was accurate? The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  466. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  470. Not quite. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  471. The British and American traders already worked with Native Hawaiians for 30 years before any missionaries arrived to Hawai'i. In 1819, King Kamehameha II abolished the old, ancestral religion, commanded all heiau to be destroyed and terminated the harsh, oppressive kapu religious law six months before the arrival of missionaries. The missionaries taught kanaka maoli how to read and write, gave them a written language (invaluable!), and educated them. Missionaries do a lot of other things, besides preach. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  474. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  477. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  482. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  483.  @matalimanaito6341  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  484.  @matalimanaito6341  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the constitution and unilaterally created his own constitution, and increased the monarchy's power, which was illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.  Kamehameha V was also the first to impose property, income and literacy tests for voting. He ended universal suffrage in 1864, well before the 1887 Constitution. King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. They didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. The Queen and Hui Kālaiʻāina opposed the 1887 Constitution. They wanted to amend it and regain power. They organized a petition for a new constitution. Lili'uokalani claimed that "out of a possible 9500 registered voters, 6500, or two-thirds, had signed these petitions" and she couldn't ignore their request and be "deaf to the voice of the people, which tradition tells us is the voice of God." Unfortunately, the petitions have been lost to history, only a small, incomplete part remains. Queen Lili'uokalani repeatedly tried to ammend the 1887 Constitution, but all her efforts failed. So she tried a very risky and illegal move. She wanted to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogate the legislature, unilaterally make her own, promulgate it via (magical) royal proclamation and defend her revolution with the military. This was very illegal and unconstitutional. And it backfired on her - very badly. She instigated her own overthrow. She used the 'will of the people' as a pretense for a power grab.
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  490. Brah, you don't even know Hawaiian history. Western traders were interacting with kanaka maoli for about 30 years before the first missionaries arrived. You watched one slick propaganda video and thought you learned somethin'. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  493.  @AceXINFAMY  No, that's not what I said. Lol. Please don't try and put words in my mouth. Maybe you should re-read my original post? Everyone supports equality. The problem with woke politics (just like every other political ideology) is extremism, lack of critical thinking, misinformation, confirmation bias, echo chambers, mob mentality, uncivil discourse, propaganda, etc. History is often misrepresented, historically revised, and replaced with political lies. That doesn't help promote an honest and objective conversation with fair and effective solutions. One of the most controversial aspects of woke activism is the concept of 'social equity'. Social equity 'recognizes that each person has different circumstances and allocates the exact resources and opportunities needed to reach an equal outcome.' Some people oppose the idea of social equity because they believe that social equality is sufficient for a fair and just society. If you were playing a videogame and one player was given extra life, resources, etc (that they didn't earn), then would you think the game is 'fair'. Everyone should be able to work hard, accomplish greatness and be recognized for their achievements. Others believe that special groups need to be given a social handicap where they get special treatment and extra resources, often at the expense/detriment of other groups. There's no problem with creating social initiatives to promote other groups, but it can be debated how much is too much/little and where does it cross the line and become unfair/unjust for all citizens. Social equity is extremely controversial. Almost every American is an immigrant or descendant of immigrants from other countries who left their homelands, where they suffered hardships or injustice, and they immigrated to the United States. They hoped to work hard to better themselves, their families and communities. Many Americans support equality, but not some of the radical ideas of woke politics.
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  494.  @Cataquack823  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔ There was no genocide in Hawai'i.
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  497.  @dddddd-mm5nu  Not at all. Lol.. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  498.  @dddddd-mm5nu  Yeah, sure dude, history is never that simple, cut-and-dry, black-and-white. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani even admitted in her OWN book, Hawaii's History, that she tried to overthrow the government. She even included a copy of her her formal, written testimony to Commissioner Blount in Appendix B: Early in January I mentioned to Captain Nowlein of the household guards, and Mr. Wilson the marshall, my intentions to promulgate a new constitution, and to  prepare themselves to quell any riot or outbreak from the opposition. They assured me they would be ready; and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy... As you can clearly see, the Queen instigated her own overthrow. She even admitted it in her own testimony and book. The Hawaiian Kingdom was built (from start to finish) by kanaka, westerners and asians. They were kama'āina. Her political opponents found out about her secret plot. Then they organized, mobilized and led a successful counter-revolution to overthrow her. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Kingdom. There were 1,100 - 1,600 armed rebels who took control of the government (not the U.S).  The Queen was definitely concerned about the large, local (hawaiian) insurgent force that assembled to challenge her government. And what happened? She got cold feet, surrendered and yielded control to the rebels (who formed a new government). The U.S. didn't 'invade' Hawai'i. It landed 162 marines and SAILORS (Sailors! Lol) as a peacekeeping force who were given strict orders of neutrality. They didn't actively participate in the revolution. They just chilled in their barracks. That's not an 'invasion' force. Can you name a major battle or war between the U.S. and Hawai'i? Nope.  Captain Wiltse of the U.S.S. Boston gave these instructions to Commander Swinburne of the American troops: You will take command of the battalion and land in Honolulu for the purpose of protecting our legation, consulate, and the lives and property of American citizens, and to assist in preserving public order. Great prudence must be exercised by both officers and men, and no action taken that is not fully warranted by the condition of affairs and by the conduct of those who may be inimical to the treaty rights of American citizens. That's not an invasion plan. Did the American soldiers help the insurgents or engage in any firefights? No, there was no violence against American life or property. There was no civil war requiring their intervention. They maintained their neutrality during a crisis and were successful with their peacekeeping mission. Maybe you should try researching more before believing a cute youtube vid full of historical inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda.😄👌
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  517. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  521. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  522. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  523.  @hawaiianhistory1012  Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report. The NEA is a very liberal and progressive organization. I have read their three part series (articles) on Hawai'i and it's full of misinformation, half-truths and propaganda. Do you know why? Because it was written by Dr. David Keanu Sai (guest writer). That's already a HUGE warning sign. A PhD thesis paper is NOT irrefutable (especially in the field of political science). Malama pono.😁
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  525. Are you sure? The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  528.  @112313  The Americans didn't 'invade' Hawai'i. Lol. Can you name any major battles or wars between the United States and Hawaiian Kingdom? Nope. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  532.  @charleshong5610  No, that's not factual. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. The Chinese military, on the other hand, invaded and conquered Tibet with a large military campaign where many Tibetans were killed, injured and captured.
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  538. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  540.  @lux7264  Let's see if they actually were colonized... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. See, they weren't colonized.
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  545. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  546.  @ceruleanprince7139  Queen Lili'uokalani didn't have the constitutional power to declare a new constitution (on her own). Based on the constitution, she had to work with the Legislature to ammend the existing constitution. She tried to do it without them, which is a unilateral move. Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. The Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance. The U.S.S. Boston deployed 162 marines and sailors as a peacekeeping force under commands of neutrality to protect American life and property. They didn't fight with the insurgents, raid any buildings or provide any material support. The Blount and Morgan reports didn't document any physicsl aggression by the U.S. soldiers. That's hardly a military invasion force. The Honolulu Rifles had a militia force of about 1,100 - 1,600 men. That, on the other hand, is a LARGE armed insurgency. The royalists had about 950 men, with about a dozen artillery pieces and a gatling gun. Queen Liliuokalani could've TRIED to defend her government from the revolution, but it would've been bloody. However, she got cold feet and chose to surrender because she thought (hoped) her friend Grover Cleveland would restore her government when he became President six weeks later. That was a grave miscalculation. She thought the U.S. would fight her battle. That was her responsibility to defend the homeland and she didn't.
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  550. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli.
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  554.  @zihanzheng7569  The U.S. didn't just show up and take Hawai'i. The U.S. didn't fight any battles or wars with the Hawaiian Kingdom. Queen Lili'uokalani, the royalists, rebels and American soldiers all testified that the U.S. military didn't play an active part in the Revolution of 1893. The U.S. soldiers didn't surround any government buildings, raid any offices, patrol any streets, provide any material aid to the rebels or engage in any combat. The American soldiers marched past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen, lowered their flag as a sign of international neutrality, retired to their barracks, chilled there and did nothing. The U.S. soldiers were sent from the U.S.S. Boston on a peacekeeping mission to protect American lives and property with strict orders of neutrality (in case there was civil war). There were only 162 soldiers (marines and SAILORS - Lol). Only 162! With sailors!!! Queen Lili'uokalani was more worried about the 1,100 - 1,600 Honolulu Rifles, a local Hawaiian militia, that was angry that the Queen attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. She instigated her own overthrow. Meanwhile, China conquered Tibet, which had been autonomous and independent for ~40 years. China sent the People's Liberation Army with 40,000 troops to conquer Tibet. During the Battle of Chamdo, over 3,000 Tibetans were killed, captured or wounded. The U.S. didn't kill any native hawaiians or engage in any war with the Hawaiian Kingdom. In 1893, the Provisional Government of Hawai'i requested annexation, but the U.S. declined. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation and, this time, the U.S. accepted the offer (five years after the revolution). How exactly did the U.S. 'steal' Hawai'i??? Lol
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  560.  @Anytbing_lol  The Revolution of 1893 involved 1,100- 1,600 rebels who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The kanaka, westerners and asians built the Hawaiian Kingdom from start to finish. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the island chiefdoms without great western help (weapons, materials, tactics, counsel, training and combat support). Kamehameha rewarded Young and Davis with ali'i status, governorships, wealth and some even married into his family. The kanaka and haole are ohana and kama'āina. Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. Demographically, in 1893, Hawai'i was roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerner and 1/3rd asian. They were all kama'āina and subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to overthrow the government, prorogate the legislature, abrogate the existing constitution, unilaterally create her own constitution, strengthen her autocratic powers and defend her revolution with military force (all highly unconstitutional and illegal). Her political opponents found out about her scheme, led a successful counter-revolution and overthrew the Queen head over heels. She was charged with treason, arrested, imprisoned and forced to abdicate the throne. Aloha 'Oe. Some people wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted to create a republic and some wanted annexation. Everyone didn't have to agree to annexation. When the American colonists wanted to rebel against the British Empire, there were some who wanted to remain loyal to the crown. When Kamehameha conquered the islands, there were many kanaka who didn't want to be conquered (obviously). When Texas and California were annexed by the United States, there were some Californians and Texans objected. The same applies to Hawai'i. The only thing that matters is who has majority control. The rebels were able to overthrow the monarchy, establish a provisional government and create a republic. The new government was able to defeat the royalists when they attempted a violent counter-revolution in 1895. The rest is history.
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  566. Do you even know hawaiian history? The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  570. Not really. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  574.  @eddted2876  Are you sure? Do you want to talk about Hawaiian history? The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  576.  @mikeaskme3530  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Mahalo.
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  580. The U.S. didn't steal Hawai'i. Lol. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  582. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  586. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  587.  @johncher  Wake up! The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  591.  @geraldarnoult  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  597.  @merlumili  Blindly? Study some Hawaiian history and not a YouTube video. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  602.  @kekukunairvine6627  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  603.  @kekukunairvine6627  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  604.  @kekukunairvine6627  Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report. And, NO, the United Nations HAS NOT made a determination that the 'Hawaiian Kingdom' still exists.
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  605.  @kekukunairvine6627  The United Nations never declared that Hawaii was under military occupation. De Zayas reported in a memo that Hawaii was under a "strange form of occupation" by the U.S. However, he doesn't officially represent the U.N. He's a volunteer who had a short term as a United Nations Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order. A spokesperson distanced the U.N. from the memo and said that "They are his own views and as such they should not have been sent out using our letterhead.” The United Nations made no officual statement in support of de Zayas. Later, de Zayas admitted that Hawaii is "formally part of the US". Dr. David Keanu Sai's website "hawaiiankingdom.org" omits all this material and pertinent information. No one has been able to prove in domestic or international courts that the Annexation of Hawaii was illegal for 126+ years. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S involvement in Hawaii's Revolution of 1893. The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerates the U.S. military and agents of any involvement. After the report was delivered, Cleveland withdrew all of his support to reinstate the deposed queen, reestablished diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. There's no U.S. or International Law of 1898 that states that a treaty (and only a treaty) must be used for annexation of foreign land. There's no U.S. or international law of 1898 that states a joint resolution can't be used for annexation. The Newlands Resolution was ratified with a two thirds majority by BOTH the Senate and House of Representatives, which exceeds the approval criteria of a treaty. Texas was annexed via joint resolution, set a legal precedent and it's 41 times bigger than Hawai'i. Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost.
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  606.  @kekukunairvine6627  There was no executive agreement between Queen Likiuokalani and President Cleveland to transfer sovereign control to the United States. There was no meeting where Cleveland formally accepted Liiuokalani's executive powers AND he never formally obligated the United States to reinstate her monarchy. The Queen tried to transfer her powers, but the U.S. never formally accepted them. Cleveland was a friend of Liliuokalani and he agreed to help mediate a solution to reinstate her. That all fell apart after the Queen refused to pardon the insurgents and demanded their execution (beheading). Furthermore, the insurgents were unwilling to reinstate the monarchy. Historically, executive agreements were considered politically binding to distinguish them from treaties which are legally binding. In the modern era, U.S. executive agreements are binding internationally if they are 1) negotiated and entered into under the president's authority in foreign policy, 2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, or from 3) a prior act of Congress. So far, so good right? Wait! It's too good to be true. President Cleveland didn't draft, review and sign one formal executive agreement document that clearly and concisely explained the what the agreement was (similar to proposing legislation, resolution or treaty) and gain Liliuokalani's approval signature. They just had a series of correspondence letters. They had a dicussion of how they could mutually tackle problems, but this falls short of a legal and binding agreement that imposes an enforceable obligation. FURTHERMORE, the modern power of executive agreement didn't exist until the Supreme Court decision of United States v. Pink (1942)._ Since the 1940s , the vast majority of international agreements have been completed by presidents as executive agreements rather than as treaties. This major policy evolution occurred without changes to the Constitution, though Supreme Court decisions and practice by the political branches have validated the change. Furthermore, the criteria for executive agreements was documented in the Department of State's Foreign Affairs Manual, which was published in 1980 per the Foreign Services Act. Independence activists frequently tries to take laws, processes and other legal ideas that existed AFTER 1898 to make a counterfeit argument. There were some people on both sides of this debate who used racist arguments to support/oppose annexation. Blount and Morgan both had checkered, racist pasts. However, the Morgan report was considered to be the more thorough and objective report because witness interviews happened in public under sworn oath and with cross examination and he interviewed participants from all sides, which had not happened in the Blount investigation. Many people criticized the integrity of Blount's investigation.
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  607.  @kekukunairvine6627  The Morgan Report is still the official, final word on the Revolution of 1893. Commissioner Blount was the only person who investigated and wrote the Blount Report. President Cleveland secretely appointed one (1) person to act on his behalf, delegated him a high level of authority and power, didn't receive Senate confirmation and he didn't even notify the Senate of his appointment. Cleveland gave one man paramount power and secret instructions to investigate the revolution and provisional government. And how did Blount conduct his investigation? He had private and informal conversations with royalists and annexationists. However, he only requested that royalists meet with him to give formal statements, which weren't under oath, and they were recorded by a stenographer to be later memorialized in the Blount Report. After only ONE WEEK in office, President Cleveland empowered ONE MAN to secretly conduct an investigation that was lopsided and lacked integrity. Cleveland was trying to reinstate his friend Liliuokalani as soon as possible. Blount falsely claimed that the United States military and agents overthrew the government. The U.S. President (Cleveland) was a Democrat and the Democrats had majority control of the Senate. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations consisted of nine (9) members - five (5) Democrats and four (4) Republicans. The Blount Report involved one person while the Morgan Report involved a Committee of nine, non-partisan committee members of the Senate. The Committee on Foreign Relations required  that 1) witnesses from both sides (royalist and annexationist) undergo formal interview, 2) interviews occurred in open, public hearings, 3) witnesses were sworn under oath to tell the truth and 4) witnesses could be cross-examined. In contrast, Blount held formal interviews with only royalists, held secret, private meetings, didn't require testimony under oath and there was no cross-examination. The Morgan Report repudiated the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations conducted a more objective, non-biased, transparent and procedural investigation than Blount. Even the dissenting monority opinion agreed that U.S. soldiers remained neutral during the overthrow. The Morgan Report is still, to this day, the official, last word and final government report on U.S. military involvement in the Hawaiian overthrow. Now, we get to international law. You can't take today's laws and use them to adjudicate historical events that happened before those laws even existed. Time machine, maybe? The law doesn't work that way. If it did, then do you know how many countries would be in trouble??? Everyone of them - even the Hawaiian Kingdom. Kamehameha committed many human rights violations when he stole all the land for his Kingdom (cough, empire, cough!). He was a warlord and imperialist that committed many war crimes, atrocities and human rights violations. Prior to modern international law, customary international law was based on natural law, was non-binding, lacked jurisdiction and was almost impossible to enforce between states. It was a loose patchwork of customs, norms and legal ideas that was informal. Customary international laws weren't coalesced, formalized, codified and, most importantly, accepted until the early 20th century, after the annexation. The applicable, formal, established multi-lateral laws of the Hague, Geneva Convention, International Court, etc didn't exist back in 1898. Customary international law had no teeth back then.
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  608. Early on, in the Hawaiian Kingdom, most schools were taught in the Native Hawaiian language with great help from missionaries, who recorded their language, taught them how to read and write and helped run the medium schools. Later, the Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian
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  611.  @mito88  Hey, people claim that the U.S. 'stole' Hawai'i. The American soldiers did nothing during the Revolution of 1893. Compare that to Kamehameha's 20 year war campaign and conquest. Now, let's take a look at the Revolution of 1893... The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  613.  @firm1z  Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). He wouldn't have been able to conquer all the island chiefdoms without great western help (weapons, supplies, tactics, training, counsel and combat support). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Many migrated to Hawai'i, built their lives and had children in Hawai'i. They were kama'āina. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. In 1851, King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate, but the Japanese emperor declined. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S. involvement in the Hawaiian Revolution of 1893. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. Cleveland withdrew his support to reinstate the former queen, reestablished diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Do Hawaiians share the same rights as everyone else? Yes, the Organic Act of 1900 gave U.S. citizenship to the Territory of Hawai'i and the State Admission Act of 1959 gave them full representation and voting rights in federal government. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  628.  @dtoxicks  James Dole migrated to Hawai'i to start his fruit company in 1899, which was six years after the overthrow and one year after annexation. Lol. (This video was very stupid) The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  630. Hawai'i is nothing like Uyghur or Tibet. It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian
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  631. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  638.  @freejack1  You still dodged all the questions. Hawai'i had a feudal caste system where the mo'i (king) and ali'i (nobility chiefs) declared that they were the descendants of Akua (god) and had a divine right to rule. The maka'āinana (commoners) were subjugated and oppressed by harsh kapu (religious law) for generations. They were bound to their ahupua'a (parcels of land) and were property of the mo'i, ali'i and konohiki (landlords). There was very limited social mobility. Status was determined by your genealogy and what social level you had in society. At the bottom wrong, the Native Hawaiians even had the kauwā (slaves), who were treated as untouchables and used for human sacrifice during religious ceremonies. Before western contact, the kanaka maoli (native hawaiians) were engaged in over a hundred years of continuous, episodic warfare. They were supporting and fielding MASSIVE armies. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina (land), mana (power) and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole (foreigners) have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. Captain Cook discovered Hawai'i in 1778. Westerners were interacting with kanaka for 40 years BEFORE missionaries even arrived. In 1819, King Kamehameha II abolished the old, ancestral religion, commanded all the heiau to be destroyed and terminated the harsh, oppressive kapu religious legal system. The missionaries arrived six months later. If you're going to talk about mo'olelo hawai'i (hawaiian history), then you need to cover it fairly. There's 'violence' in relgion because there's violence in humans.
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  646. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  650.  @mikeaskme3530  If were going to remember the past, then we need to remember all parts. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Lili'uokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  652.  @gary.420  Do you think that the mo'i, ali'i and konohiki were innocent? Do you think Kings, Queens and Nobleman are generally good and charitable to their subjects? The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball.
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  656.  @KomainuKennels  Try again, brah.😁 The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  661. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  668. Make sure the movie contains all the details. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  669.  @dub6pimp  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  670. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  672.  Max Smith  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  673.  @abnernakihei  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that says that a joint resolution cannot be used for annexation. Conversely, there's no U.S. or International Law of 1898 that says that a treaty (and only a treaty) must be used for annexation of foreign land. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation and their legislature unanimously passed THEIR own treaty of annexation. The Newlands Resolution contains identical language to the first proposed treaty and it was ratified by two thirds of both Houses of Congress (which is stronger than the approval criteria of even a treaty). Hawai'i was annexed under a mutual, bilateral agreement between the Republic of Hawaii and the United States. Both parties accepted, followed, executed and behaved accordingly within the terms of the agreement. The Newlands Resolution menorialized the agreement, which makes the annexation legal and binding. Hawai'i followed a path similar to Texas (which set legal precedent for joint resolution as a valid mechanism). Both failed annexation attempts using treaty, but were later annexed by joint resolution with one huge difference. Again, the Newlands Resolution was passed by a TWO THIRDS majority by both the Senate and the House of Representatives, which exceeds the approval criteria of even a treaty. The House passsd the resolution with a vote of 209 to 91 (69%) on June 15, 1898. The Senate passed the resolution on July 6, 1898 with a tally of 42 to 21 (66%). President McKinley signed it on July 7, 1898. Ironically, if they chose to ratify another treaty, then it would've passed Congress. Regardless, the Newlands Resolution had 2/3rds support from both houses, which beats the ratification requirements of a treaty. The U.S. Constitution doesn't define the process and powers for annexation of foreign land. Article 6 doesn't cover it. President Jefferson ran into this problem when he wanted to acquire the Louisiana Territory. He wanted to make an amendment to fix this problem, but the Senate blocked him and thought a treaty was good enough. This same loophole allows a joint resolution to be used for annexation. There is no violation of the Constitution because the constitution is silent on this issue. There have been many instances in U.S. history where acts and joint resolutions have been used instead of treaties. The annexation of Texas and Hawai'i and end of World War I was achieved via joint resolution. There are many more examples in this journal: "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" James W. Garner https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 The Kū'ē Petitions only prove that many kanaka opposed annexation. By 1893, demographically, Hawai'i was roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerner and 1/3rd asians. They were all denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom, which became the Republic of Hawai'i. After the revolution, the monarchy was overthrown and the royalists no longer had control of the government. There are no international laws of 1898 that require a public referendum or plebiscite for annexation. Sure, some people opposed annexation and others supported it. Unfortunately, the opposition didn't control the government apparatus. Vermont, the Republic of Texas and the Republic of California were also sovereign, independent countries with their own governments and international diplomatic relations. However, their citizens were also not required to have a public vote on the annexation question. There were many people who opposed annexation, but only the government's vote mattered. The Legislature of the Republic of Hawaii unanimously voted in favor of annexation. After 126+ years, there hasn't been a single U.S. or International Court ruling that has declared that Hawai'i is 'occupied' or the annexation was 'illegal'.
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  681.  @alapakeheanu4776  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  695. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  698.  @zazarays  The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. The Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  711.  @sammyk702  Proof? The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The United Stated never fought any wars with the Hawaiian Kingdom or the kanaka maoli. The Great Māhele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'āinana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. They exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Māhele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. That's 'brown' on 'brown'. Brah, where's your proof?
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  714. Are you sure it's REAL history? The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  717. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  723. The United States didn't colonize, steal or destroy Hawai'i. You're as salty as the Pacific Ocean. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  725. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  728.  @Ambigious  Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  730. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  733. The U.S. didn't unilaterally annex Hawai'i, without its permission. The Provisional Government had requested annexation in 1893 and later the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation. The Hawaiian Legislature unanimously agreed and the both the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives ratified it with a two thirds majority. That's a mutual, bilateral agreement. Furthermore, this wasn't the only time that Hawai'i sought annexation or protectorate status. In 1851, King Kamehameha III requested protectorate status (which the U.S. declinee) and later, in 1854, he entered into negotiations for annexation by the U.S. (but the deal fell apart after he died and the next Mo'i backed out). King Kamehameha even sought protectorate status from Great Britain and King Kalākaua sought protectorate status from Japan. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter.
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  736. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  747.  @wiktorjachyra1869  The U.S. didn't steal Hawaii's independence. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  751.  @marcuslittle4428  Try again, boss. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  752.  @marcuslittle4428  The kanaka and haole built the Hawaiian Kingdom together - from start to finish. Kamehameha wouldn't have been able to CONQUER and 'unify' the islands without great help from westerners (weapons, supplies, training, tactics, counsel and combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. In 1893, demographically, Hawai'i was roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerner and 1/3rd asian. The Hawaiian Kingdom was multiethnic, multicultural and multinational. Real 'Hawaiians'??? Most 'Hawaiians' today are hapa, mixed with koko hawai'i, westerners and asians. There's only 4,000-8,000 pure 💯 kanaka maoli in Hawai'i. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  753.  @marcuslittle4428  You clearly don't know Hawaiian history. Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  754.  @marcuslittle4428  Brah, feel free to research any individual point. Verify and confirm everything you read, see and hear. I have studied mo'olelo hawai'i for a long time and have dived deep into the actual history and primary documents. Queen Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged American involvement in the hawaiian revolution. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. That was the final nail in the coffin. Cleveland withdrew his support for the reinstatement of the deposed queen. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. The Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift (her wings were clipped). Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  758. The TMT isn't being constructed on any sacred land. They performed an exhaustive survey of the build site and confirmed that no heiau, ahu, petroglyphs, kanu iwi, kanu piko or places of pule/mele will be impacted. The TMT doesn't obstruct any religious, cultural, environmental or recreational practices. Its one mile away from the holy summit. Maunakea has 12 levels of sacredness from the sea floor to the summit. However, the kanaka often used the mauna for pragmatic reasons, with destructive consequences.The kupuna created the largest prehistoric adze quarry in the world, which covers 7 miles, is heavily concentrated around 1.5 square miles and extends up to 13,000 ft on the mauna. The kupuna scarred huge swaths of āina as they quarried basalt rock to make stone tools and weapons. They created an industrial complex with heiau, ahu, rock shelters, craft areas, signs and they left huge rock litters of destruction. That was all on the 'sacred' mauna, yea? Aloha āina? Nope. Fast forward to today. The Hawaiian Volcanic Observatory is built on the outer rim of the Kilauea Caldera, which is another sacred mauna and the physical manifestation of Pele. The 'protectors' aren't protecting that 'sacred' volcano. Why? Because they don't want to die from an eruption, fiery lava or noxious gases. The kia'i sure know how to compromise. Lulz. That's a major contradiction. The protesters can't claim that the mauna is sacred and nothing has been built there when the ancestors built a huge quarry on Maunakea and, today, a volcanic observatory exists on Kilauea. Mauna Kea connects Mother Earth with Father Sky just like a telescope bridges the āina with the lewa lani. It's the same form, fit and function - a natural fit. Spiritual practitioners can practice ancient astronomy while modern people can practice modern astronomy. The summit of Maunakea was restricted to high chiefs and priests (exclusively males). Then astronomers had the Mauna Kea Access Road constructed to support astronomy. Now, anybody can go up to the summit and enjoy that magical and beautiful place. Times change - for the better. Kanaka can even drive their 4x4, diesel trucks up the access road... and complain about astronomy... using their smartphones... created by science... to say dumb things... about astronomy. Irony, yea? The protesters don't support science. In the contested case hearing for the TMT conservation district use application, the protesters stated, on the public record, that they want ALL TELESCOPES REMOVED from the mauna. Brah, they don't love science. Protesters oppose astronomy, geothermal energy, wind farms and spaceports in Hawai'i Nei. It looks like they hate a whole lotta science. Not very akamai. Knowledge is power. You shame, you starve ;)
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  769. Welcome to Hawai'i. It's full of hate, racism and propaganda. Did you think the person on the loudspeaker was telling the truth? Not even close. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Always independently research, verify and confirm everything that you read, see and hear.
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  770. History is always more complicated. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  773. Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch.
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  774. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Hawai'i isn't the same as Tibet.
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  775. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  776. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  779. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  781.  @ponokealii  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report. After the Morgan Report was released, President Cleveland withdrew all support for the the reinstatement of Lili'uokalani, continued diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. The Republic of Hawaii had firm control of the Hawaiian government and nation. Robert Wilcox led the Revolution of 1895, which tried to forcefully reinstate Lili'uokalani, but they failed. The new government defended its powers and cemented its control over the country for FIVE YEARS after the overthrow. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, 1887, and 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother.
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  792. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  798.  @richardramfire3971  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  802.  @unluckySomeone  The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. The United States didn't steal Hawai'i.
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  809.  @Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section  It's propaganda, not fighting words.😌 Did you actually believe those cheap, biased videos? Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  817. Share this with them, too! The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  822. And it's also probably inaccurate. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  840. Anita, you're still wrong ;) The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  841. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  846.  @winterlilikoi1899  It wasn't at gunpoint. Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  847.  @winterlilikoi1899  Queen Lili'uokalani and the Hui Kālaiʻāina opposed the 1887 Constitution. They wanted to amend it and regain power. They organized a petition for a new constitution. Lili'uokalani claimed that "out of a possible 9500 registered voters, 6500, or two-thirds, had signed these petitions" and she couldn't ignore their request and be "deaf to the voice of the people, which tradition tells us is the voice of God." Unfortunately, the petitions have been lost to history, only a small, incomplete part remains. Queen Lili'uokalani repeatedly tried to amend the 1887 Constitution, but all her efforts failed. So she tried a very risky and illegal move. She wanted to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogate the legislature, unilaterally make her own, promulgate it via (magical) royal proclamation and defend her revolution with the military. This was very illegal and unconstitutional. And it backfired on her - very badly. She instigated her own overthrow. She used the 'will of the people' as a pretense for a power grab. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance. Too bad, so sad.
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  852.  @davidstevens3371  By definition, force implies violence. Obviously. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. But, meh, she didn't care about the constitution. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S. involvement in the Revolution of 1893. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which refuted the previous Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents. Cleveland then withdrew all support for the deposed Queen, continued diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties between the two countries. The United States didn't 'steal' Hawai'i. Queen Lili'uokalani was reckless and arrogant. She caused her own downfall. Yessah Blessah!😆
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  854.  @davidstevens3371  In short, many islanders were upset because the monarchy was overthrown and they lost, which is hard to accept. Some people like to claim that they were 'forced' by the U.S. to be 'American', which plays into the victim mentality. In reality, the rebels defeated the royalists in one day with a surrender that was pretty embarrassing (no major fighting or bloodshed). That's why some people will say that the Queen gave up because 'she loved her people and was afraid of genocide'. Then there are the people who say the Queen was tricked. It's easier to say you were 'tricked' or 'cheated' because it hides how the Queen was too scared to fight. She knew that her plan to suddenly proclaim a new constitution (which was illegal) would potentially cause civil unrest or riots. She definitely remembered what happened to Kalākaua and the Revolution of 1887. So she instructed her military to suppress any opposition, if needed. However, when she saw 1,100 - 1,600 militiamen surround and raid the government buildings, she knew she bit off more than she could chew. She got cold feet and surrendered. King Kamehameha would've fought like a lion and gone down swinging, but she went out like a lamb. Even worse, she provoked the counter-revolution and cost the country its independence. That's why some people say the Queen's defeat was 'forced', an 'act of love' or a 'trick'. Some people can't hold an L. Even worse, what happened 127 years ago doesn't really matter for today. Those shirts are propaganda... and salty alternative facts.
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  860.  @clightning9703  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Technically, the U.S. did 'save' Hawai'i from a potential Civil War between the rebels and royalists. They stabilized the region.
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  867. Nah, cousin, Hawai'i wasn't 'stolen'. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  870.  @latenyts6480  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  873. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  874.  @neozeon2567  Hawai'i was never colonized. Let me clarify... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave hawaiians U.S. citizencitizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in fededal elections. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  875.  @myopicthunder  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  878.  @pakelika100  Slow down, Pat, you can't dismiss the Morgan Report that easily (but I know you want to😉). There were some people on both sides of this debate who used racist arguments to support/oppose annexation. Blount and Morgan both had checkered, racist pasts. However, the Morgan report was considered to be the more thorough and objective report because witness interviews happened in public under sworn oath and with cross examination and he interviewed participants from all sides, which had not happened in the Blount investigation. Many people criticized the integrity of Blount's investigation. Commissioner Blount was the only person who investigated and wrote the Blount Report. President Cleveland secretely appointed one (1) person to act on his behalf, delegated him a high level of authority and power, didn't receive Senate confirmation and he didn't even notify the Senate of his appointment. Cleveland gave one man paramount power and secret instructions to investigate the revolution and provisional government. And how did Blount conduct his investigation? He had private and informal conversations with royalists and annexationists. However, he only requested that royalists meet with him to give formal statements, which weren't under oath, and they were recorded by a stenographer to be later memorialized in the Blount Report. After only ONE WEEK in office, President Cleveland empowered ONE MAN to secretly conduct an investigation that was lopsided and lacked integrity. Cleveland was trying to reinstate his friend Liliuokalani as soon as possible. Blount falsely claimed that the United States military and agents overthrew the government. Cleveland declared that the revolution was improper due to alleged U.S. involvement. He asked Congress to quickly investigate the matter and resolve the issue, i.e. reinstate Lili'uokalani (former Queen) to her throne. The Senate Committee of Foreign Relations then commissioned an investigation, which led to the Morgan Report, the repudiation of the Blount Report and the exoneration of the U.S. military and agents. The U.S. President (Cleveland) was a Democrat and the Democrats had majority control of the Senate. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations consisted of nine (9) members - five (5) Democrats and four (4) Republicans. The Blount Report involved one person while the Morgan Report involved a Committee of nine, non-partisan committee members of the Senate. The Committee on Foreign Relations required  that 1) witnesses from both sides (royalist and annexationist) undergo formal interview, 2) interviews occurred in open, public hearings, 3) witnesses were sworn under oath to tell the truth and 4) witnesses could be cross-examined. In contrast, Blount held formal interviews with only royalists, held secret, private meetings, didn't require testimony under oath and there was no cross-examination. The Morgan Report repudiated the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations conducted a more objective, non-biased, transparent and procedural investigation than Blount. Even the dissenting monority opinion agreed that U.S. soldiers remained neutral during the overthrow. The Morgan Report is still, to this day, the official, last word and final government report on U.S. military involvement in the Hawaiian overthrow. President Cleveland accepted the conclusions of the Morgan Report, withdrew his support for the reinstatement of Liliuokalani, engaged in diplomatic relations with the Provisional Government, provided formal recognition of the Republic of Hawaii and established diplomatic ties and treaties with the new country. All of the Hawaiian Kingdom's allies (all nineteen!) and treaty partners provided de facto and formal recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Territory of Hawaii. The international community legitimized every step of Hawaii's transition from Hawaiian Kingdom, to Provisional Government, to Republic of Hawaii and to Territory of the United States.
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  894.  @ULHIS  The United States didn't 'steal' Hawai'i. Lol. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the island chiefdoms without great western help (weapons, supplies, counsel, training, tactics and combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religion, economics, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. Kanaka, westerners and asians worked to build the Hawaiian Kingdom from start to finish. They're kama'āina and ohana. That being said, the Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. Hawai'i is a small archipelago in the middle of the remote Pacific Ocean, middle of nowhere. After the annexation, Hawai'i became much more stable and prosperous. Native Hawaiian activists lobbied hard for statehood. In 1919, Prince Kūhio even wrote the first statehood bill. In 1959, 93% of Hawaiians voted overwhelmingly in favor of Statehood. What cost? Hawai'i is happy to be part of the U.S.A.😄👍
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  895.  @mastersonogashira1796  Colonization? Let me make it easier for you to understand... Captain Cook discovered Hawai'i in 1778. They were not politically unified. Far from it. There were several separate kingdoms and over a hundred years of continuous, episodic warfare. You know, Aloha!😵💀😵💀 Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). He used an army of 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chidfdoms with great western help (weapons, supplies, tactics, training, counsel and combat support). There would never even be a Kingdom of Hawai'i without western involvement. The ISLANDS were far too difficult to capture and HOLD... because they were ISLANDS.😉 Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  899.  @nabielw  Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together and became one ohana, blended by aloha. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  903. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  905. Kamehameha was a definitely a 'bully'. He waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The U.S. didn't 'bully' the Hawaiian Kingdom. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. President Cleveland did send several warships to Hawai'i to visibly prepare for an amphibious invasion to intimidate the insurgents to give into demands for them to reinstate former Queen Lili'uokalani. Now that's a form of bullying.
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  907.  @SugerSprinkledFun  James Dole grew up in Massachusetts and he was only 16 when the Revolution of 1893 occured.. How exactly did James take advantage of anything? In Hawai'i, it had always been easy for people to purchase/lease land for agricultural development. By 1890, Hawaiian exports had increased over 700% from 1874, which generated lots of tax revenue for the Hawaiian government. It wasn't hard to get farmland. James Dole had to save $16,240 before he could move to Honolulu in 1899 and buy his 64-acre homestead. How did he take advantage of anyone? He wasn't even in Hawai'i when the Revolution or Annexation happened and he had to work hard for his dreams. The overthrow of the monarchy happened 128 years ago. Nobody is alive to remember anything that happened during that historical event. There are no living memories. Furthermore, the U.S. Congress never sanctioned by Congress (and 1893 isn't exactly a 'modern' Congress). Queen Lili'uokalani, her royalists, the rebels and the American soldiers testified that the U.S. military did not play an active role in the Revolution of 1893. They didn't surround the capitol, patrol any streets, raid any offices, engage in any combat or provide any material aid to the insurgents. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S. involvement. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which exonerated the U.S. military of any wrongdoing. Cleveland then withdrew all his support to reinstate the former queen, re-established diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawai'i and negotiated treaties with them. Queen Lili'uokalani made an illegal and unconstitutional power grab, which instigated her own overthrow.
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  908.  @stevieb9585  The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  913.  @km6832  Patriot? Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Do some better research, Patriot.
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  917. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  918.  @rafael2105  The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  925. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  926.  @Kaleookamahina  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that says that a joint resolution cannot be used for annexation. Conversely, there's no U.S. or International Law of 1898 that says that a treaty (and only a treaty) must be used for annexation of foreign land. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation and their legislature unanimously passed THEIR own treaty of annexation. The Newlands Resolution contains identical language to the first proposed treaty and it was ratified by two thirds of both Houses of Congress (which is stronger than the approval criteria of even a treaty). Hawai'i was annexed under a mutual, bilateral agreement between the Republic of Hawaii and the United States. Both parties accepted, followed, executed and behaved accordingly within the terms of the agreement. The Newlands Resolution menorialized the agreement, which makes the annexation legal and binding. Hawai'i followed a path similar to Texas (which set legal precedent for joint resolution as a valid mechanism). Both failed annexation attempts using treaty, but were later annexed by joint resolution with one huge difference. Again, the Newlands Resolution was passed by a TWO THIRDS majority by both the Senate and the House of Representatives, which exceeds the approval criteria of even a treaty. The House passsd the resolution with a vote of 209 to 91 (69%) on June 15, 1898. The Senate passed the resolution on July 6, 1898 with a tally of 42 to 21 (66%). President McKinley signed it on July 7, 1898. Ironically, if they chose to ratify another treaty, then it would've passed Congress. Regardless, the Newlands Resolution had 2/3rds support from both houses, which beats the ratification requirements of a treaty. The U.S. Constitution doesn't define the process and powers for annexation of foreign land. Article 6 doesn't cover it. President Jefferson ran into this problem when he wanted to acquire the Louisiana Territory. He wanted to make an amendment to fix this problem, but the Senate blocked him and thought a treaty was good enough. This same loophole allows a joint resolution to be used for annexation. There is no violation of the Constitution because the constitution is silent on this issue. There have been many instances in U.S. history where acts and joint resolutions have been used instead of treaties. The annexation of Texas and Hawai'i and end of World War I was achieved via joint resolution. There are many more examples in this journal: "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" James W. Garner https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 The Kū'ē Petitions only prove that many kanaka opposed annexation. By 1893, demographically, Hawai'i was roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerner and 1/3rd asians. They were all denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom, which became the Republic of Hawai'i. After the revolution, the monarchy was overthrown and the royalists no longer had control of the government. There are no international laws of 1898 that require a public referendum or plebiscite for annexation. Sure, some people opposed annexation and others supported it. Unfortunately, the opposition didn't control the government apparatus. Vermont, the Republic of Texas and the Republic of California were also sovereign, independent countries with their own governments and international diplomatic relations. However, their citizens were also not required to have a public vote on the annexation question. There were many people who opposed annexation, but only the government's vote mattered. The Legislature of the Republic of Hawaii unanimously voted in favor of annexation. After 126+ years, there hasn't been a single U.S. or International Court ruling that has declared that Hawai'i is 'occupied' or the annexation was 'illegal'.
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  939. Do you even know Hawaiian history? The United States didn't 'steal' Hawai'i. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  941.  @joeypaller4854  The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The United States has never fought any battles or wars with the Hawaiian Kingdom. Queen Lili'uokalani attempted to prorogate the legislature, abrogate the existing constitution, unilaterally create her own constitution, strengthen her autocratic powers and defend her revolution with military force (which was highly illegal and unconstitutional)... but her political opponents found out about her secret plan, organized, mobilized and led a successful counter-revolution. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles (1,100-1,600 armed militiamen), who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom, overthrew her. She tried to make a power grab, but it backfired on her badly. The U.S. landed 162 marines and sailors (SAILORS!) who were given strict orders of neutrality as peacekeepers to protect American lives and property who played no active part in the revolution. How exactly did the U.S. 'steal' or 'conquer' Hawai'i? Lol
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  948. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  949. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  950. The United Nations never declared that Hawaii was under military occupation. De Zayas reported in a memo that Hawaii was under a "strange form of occupation" by the U.S. However, he doesn't officially represent the U.N. He's a volunteer who had a short term as a United Nations Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order. A spokesperson distanced the U.N. from the memo and said that "They are his own views and as such they should not have been sent out using our letterhead.” The United Nations made no officual statement in support of de Zayas. Later, de Zayas admitted that Hawaii is "formally part of the US". Dr. David Keanu Sai's website "hawaiiankingdom.org" omits all this material and pertinent information. No one has been able to prove in domestic or international courts that the Annexation of Hawaii was illegal for 126+ years. Here's one MORE example of Dr. David Keanu Sai's bogus claims. Let's take a look at the Larsen v Hawaiian Kingdom case that went to the Permanent Court of Arbitration. The Tribunal didn't award a decision in favor of the hawaiian sovereignty movement. Legally, the Court awarded nothing meaningful in the judgement. A rule for Larsen or Hawaiian Kingdom would've been a symbolic win. They got zilch. No win - for anyone. Larsen and 'Hawaiian Kingdom' both lost. The Tribunal clearly stated that the arbitration rules (that Larsen and Sai filed and agreed to) only dealt with international trade. INTERNATIONAL TRADE 😞 (Take a moment to let that sink in) and not territorial/boundary disputes. NOT TERRITORY BOUNDARY DISPUTES. The Tribunal was perplexed as to why both parties acted like friends👬, who presented the SAME evidence and showed no sign of disagreement (weird!). Larsen didn't even seek damages (weirder!). The Triubunal sat through this charade because both parties completed all the appropriate paperwork and paid for the adjudication. And how did the PCA adjudicate? They dismissed the case under the grounds that "there is no dispute between the parties capable of submission to arbitration" AND, even if it were, the sovereign state that owns the territory, the U.S., wasn't party to the proceedings. The U.S. would never join a flim flam arbitration case about DMV🚗 drivers license and license plate fines and "international trade".  Check out the arbitration award. They stated that they couldn't make a decision on whether the "Hawaiian Kingdom" existed in perpetuity: "the Tribunal can neither decide that Hawaii is not part of the USA, nor proceed on the assumption that it is not. To take either course would be to disregard a principle which goes to heart of the arbitral function in international law." David Sai staged a nice publicity stunt and created some sensational propaganda. And people gobbled it up. He came back empty-handed and made zero progress for his cause, but he still spiked the football and strutted around like a rooster🐓 who just laid an egg (unreal!). The NLG is a progressive public interest association. The statement was made by the Hawaiian Kingdom SUBCOMMITTEE of the National Lawyers Guild, which is co-chaired by... wait for it.. Dr. David Keanu Sai. There's nothing sensational, revolutionary or groundbreaking about their statement. Please let me know when the American Bar Association endorses hawaiian independence.
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  958. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  960. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. Who had the land?
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  961. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  962. Auwe, you're very confused, kid. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  966.  @liltree8382  This isn't even close to the complete hawaiian history. This vid was full of misinformation, half truths and propaganda. Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  968. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  971. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  978. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  985. After 128 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision that has declared that Hawai'i was 'occupied' or annexed 'illegally'. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  988. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball.
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  992.  @athleticdemon8519  Interesting. Okay, now it's my turn.😌 The U.S. didn't 'conquer' or 'steal' Hawai'i with force. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  993.  @athleticdemon8519  Interesting. I love big sentences. Did you know that Hawai'i was legally annexed? After 128 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision that has declared that Hawai'i was 'occupied' or annexed 'illegally'. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  998. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1000.  @HAL_-sg1up  Hypocrites? Lol. Did you actually believe Johnny Harris? This video is full of historical inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda. The U.S. didn't 'conquer' or 'steal' Hawai'i with force. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. How is Hawai'i like Taiwan? They're not.😄
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  1008.  @johnniebrown2132  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1011. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1015.  @thealohamu808  Larson v Hawaiian Kingdom didn't prove that the Hawaiian Kingdom still exists. Let's take a look at the Larsen v Hawaiian Kingdom case that went to the Permanent Court of Arbitration. The Tribunal didn't award a decision in favor of the hawaiian sovereignty movement. Legally, the Court awarded nothing meaningful in the judgement. A rule for Larsen or Hawaiian Kingdom would've been a symbolic win. They got zilch. No win - for anyone. Larsen and 'Hawaiian Kingdom' both lost. The Tribunal clearly stated that the arbitration rules (that Larsen and Sai filed and agreed to) only dealt with international trade. INTERNATIONAL TRADE 😞 (Take a moment to let that sink in) and not territorial/boundary disputes. NOT TERRITORY BOUNDARY DISPUTES. The Tribunal was perplexed as to why both parties acted like friends👬, who presented the SAME evidence and showed no sign of disagreement (weird!). Larsen didn't even seek damages (weirder!). The Tribunal sat through this charade because both parties completed all the appropriate paperwork and paid for the adjudication. And how did the PCA adjudicate? They dismissed the case under the grounds that "there is no dispute between the parties capable of submission to arbitration" AND, even if it were, the sovereign state that owns the territory, the U.S., wasn't party to the proceedings. The U.S. would never join a flim flam arbitration case about "international trade". Check out the arbitration award. The stated that they couldn't make a decision on whether the "Hawaiian Kingdom" existed in perpetuity: "the Tribunal can neither decide that Hawaii is not part of the USA, nor proceed on the assumption that it is not. To take either course would be to disregard a principle which goes to heart of the arbitral function in international law." David Sai staged a nice publicity stunt and created some sensational propaganda. And people gobbled it up. He came back empty-handed and made zero progress for his cause, but he still spiked the football and strutted around like a rooster🐓 who just laid an egg (unreal!). Dr. David Keanu Sai is a revisionist historian who tries to retroactively apply today's laws to historical events that happened before the laws were created, which obviously can't be done.
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  1017.  @thealohamu808  Again, not true. Why did the Permanent Court of Arbitration hear Larson v Hawaiian Kingdom? Great question! Because both the claimant (Lance Larson) and the respondent (Dr. David Keanu Sai) paid to have the court case adjudicated. They filled out all the necessary paperwork, paid the filing fee and listed 'Hawaiian Kingdom' as respondent. They could've listed 'Santa's Village', 'Narnia', 'Asgard' or 'The Lost City of Atlantis'. It doesn't matter. The Tribunal has to refer to what's filed on the paperwork. And what did they conclude? They declared that they CANNOT determine whether or not the 'Hawaiian Kingdom' does or does not exist today AND they only referred to that country in the PAST tense. Lance Larson and Keanu Sai conspired to file a court case with the Permanent Court of Arbitration under UNCITRAL Arbitration Rules 1976. UNCITRAL is the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law. This wasn't even a court that could settle territorial boundary disputes or war crimes. Larson and Sai made a plan where Larsen would drive without a Hawaiian license plate and driver's license. He didn't pay any of his fines and spent 30 days in jail as a penalty. They both then submitted the SAME set of evidence, which AGREED with one another. Larson even refused to seek any kind of damage award. All of those facts are extremely suspicious. Sai claimed he was acting Regent Pro Tem for the Kingdom of Hawaii. Larson sued the Kingdom (Sai) for failing to protect him from the State of Hawaii. The Tribunal of Arbiters had to hear the case because the Claimant filed suit against the Hawaiian Kingdom and (once upon a time) the country did actually exist. The Tribunal dismissed the case because they couldn't rule on the legality of anyone's actions because the United States would have to be a party of the case since they annexed and owned Hawaii. Larson v. Hawaiian Kingdom proved absolutely nothing about the former country's existence and the legality of Hawaii's annexation. The case was dismissed. If either Larson or 'Hawaiian Kingdom' won, then it would've proven the continued existence of the former country. David Sai made a false victory proclamation despite winning nothing other than a public relations stunt. Have you ever read the arbitration award from start to finish? They filed paperwork and were quickly dismissed. The Tribunal even said that they cannot rule on any of the wild accusations that Larson and Sai had claimed. It was very embarrassing for them.
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  1019.  @reynaldoparedez5543  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1023.  @danielchangvargas79  Try again. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1025.  @fisnikramadani5962  Try again!😆 The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔
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  1027.  @anothergermanmapper7754  Hawai'i was never a U.S. colony. Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did Native Hawaiians want Statehood? Yes, after annexation, Native Hawaiians lobbied hard for Statehood. In 1919, Prince Kūhio even wrote the first Statehood Bill. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  1030. Brah, did you actually think this video was real?😁 It's full of historical inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda. The U.S. didn't 'conquer' or 'steal' Hawai'i with force. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1031. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a western-styled, constitutional monarchy. Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1032. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1038. The U.S. didn't 'pillage' or 'steal' Hawai'i. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the United States and it accepted the offer. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The United Stated never fought any wars or battles with the Hawaiian Kingdom or the kanaka maoli.
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  1039. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1040.  @Dracsh  His points are very weak. They don't hold up to simple scrutiny. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1041.  @LegendNinja41  Educational? This video was full of historical inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1042. Insightful? Many historical events were omitted. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1051. That video was choke stupid. There were too many historical inaccuracies, falsehoods and propaganda. That guy is talkin out da side of his mouth. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1069. This video was extremely biased. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1070. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1071.  @ikaikaxkeahi  Try again, cousin. History ain't that simple ;) Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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  1072.  @ikaikaxkeahi  It's not just your history, it's everyone's history. Kamehameha V peacefully overthrew the government in 1864. If Kamehameha V was making minor, benign improvements to the 1852 Constitution, then he would've never refused to take oath and declare a surprise, unexpected constitutional convention. He would've just followed the ammendment process. Instead, he ignored procedure. The 1852 Constitution doesn't contain any sovereign prerogative that gives the King such power (without working with the Legislature). King Kamehameha IV approved the 1852 Constitution, which required all subsequent kings (including V) to take the oath to "maintain the Constitution of the Kingdom whole and inviolate, and to govern in conformity with that and and the laws." All subsequent sovereigns had to comply with the constitution ("SHALL take the following oath"). In 1852, there was nothing to support the assertion that future kings could repeal the constitution whenever they wanted - on a King's whim. That would be a very flimsy and unstable government, which it wasn't. That power was never enumerated and granted. The 1852 Constitution enumerated the powers and processes to amend the it AND this would be the place where such extraordinary (kingly) powers would have been defined. But they don't exist. Article 105 (Mode of Amending the Constitution) stated that ammendments could be proposed in either branch of the legislature and had to be ratified with a two thirds majority by both houses. The King didn't have the constitutional power to scrap the constitution and replace it with his own. People criticized and opposed Kamehameha V's radical and subversive plan. It sparked a firestorm. When he proclaimed a convention and his own constitution, there were fierce public debates. The King flagrantly assumed powers that he obviously didn't have. The delegates even opposed him during the convention (where some even resigned) and the process became deadlocked. Kamehameha V still abrogated the constitution, disbanded the convention, drafted his own constitution and promulgated it without ratification by the Legislature. All of that was unconstitutional and illegal. He staged a coup to roll back many of the previous reforms to expand his autocratic powers and strengthen the monarchy. Did you actually think the Mo'i could abrogate an existing constitution and declare a new one whenever he/she felt like it? Press X to doubt. That's a very naive and foolish presumption. The 1852 Constitution didn't give the King such broad, sweeping powers. Go ahead, please cite the specific law in the 1852 Constitution that enumerated this fictitious process and power. It doesn't exist. Your Kumu are wrong. Are you sure they objectively and fairly studied 'olelo Hawai'i???
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  1079. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  1082.  @akken2112  You don't need to belong to the KKK or Nazi party to be a 'white supremacist' or be someone who believes in 'white supremacy'. Lol. Here's the definition for white supremacy: white supremacy - the belief that white people constitute a superior race and should therefore dominate society, typically to the exclusion or detriment of other racial and ethnic groups, in particular black or Jewish people. Now, let's adapt the definition for Native Hawaiian Supremacy: native hawaiian supremacy - the belief that native hawaiian people constitute a superior race and should therefore dominate Hawaiian society, typically to the exclusion or detriment of other racial and ethnic groups, in particular caucasian and asian people. There are Native Hawaiians who hate white people, the Japanese, Chinese, etc. Do you even live in Hawai'i, brah? I doubt it, which explains why you have such little knowledge, experience, and understanding of our culture. There are kanaka maoli (Native Hawaiians) who believe that they are the SUPERIOR race in Hawai'i who are the BEST people who can lead the lāhui (community) and control the āina (land) and strongly believe that haole (caucasian, asian and other non-hawaiians) should have little to no influence. There are native hawaiians who openly advocate that they should have exclusive or majority control based on their race and ethnicity. They will and do commit violence against haoles. IF you park in the wrong parking spot, go to the wrong section of beach, ride on the wrong waves, etc and you're a haole, THEN you are taking a risk for a potentially violent encounter. Hawai'i even has 'Kill Haole Day' which is an end of the school year 'tradition' where native hawaiian kids beat up haole kids in school. There are native hawaiian gangs that enforce native hawaiian exclusivity. Those meat heads and mokes won't think twice before cracking your skull for the color of your skin or lack of respect, while they act like the CHOSEN PEOPLE of these islands. Come visit, brah! Just don't bring the wife and kids. Lol. We also have the Aloha Āina Party, whose members openly advocate for more control based on ethnicity. And we got the crazy native hawaiian secessionist who talk about independence and rebellion. Did you think 'white supremacy' is the only supremacy? You need to diversify your thinking ;) P.S. Africa is a large CONTINENT and had many kinds of slavery: debt slavery, enslavement of war prisoners, military slavery, slavery for prostitution, enslavement of criminals and chattel slavery. Did you actually think Africa didn't have chattel slavery? There's a long history of chattel slavery in the Nile River valley, most of the Sahel and North Africa. Many anthropologists believe that it was practiced throughout Africa at one point or another. Did you actually think Africans never owned slaves as property? You need to do better research. Mahalo nuis!😃
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  1085.  @dub6pimp  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1087.  A.C. A.  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1090.  @glass2517  What murder? What conquest? Do you even know hawaiian history? The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1094.  @Cobraman8447  Simple truth? Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1096. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1101.  @kelly7376  Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did Native Hawaiians want Statehood? Yes, Native Hawaiian activists lobbied hard for Statehood. In 1919, Prince Kūhio even wrote the first Statehood Bill. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. Sarcasm gets your argument nowhere. You're welcome.😄
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  1103.  @anothergermanmapper7754  You read ALL that and called BS? Lol. Do you even have a counterargument? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create her OWN constitution, strengthen her autocratic powers and defend her revolution with military force (which was all highly illegal and unconstitutional). Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother.
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  1106.  @VoidSurfer9  Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together - from start to finish. The kanaka, westerners and asians were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a very western style country. The Royal (mo'i) and Nobility (ali'i) classes embraced the modern world. The missionaries helped create a written language, which was invaluable for knowledge collection, study and sharing. Unfortunately, the Hawaiian Kingdom consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i always needed the protection of a Big Brother. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1107.  @VoidSurfer9  Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  1109. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1119.  @LeeSkJohn-sv8wi  China invaded, conquered and annexed Tibet with a large military force. There were over 3,000 dead, injured and captured. During the Great Leap Forward, another 200,000 - 1,000,000 Tibetans died from the worst famine in human history. The United States never engaged in any battles or wars with the Hawaiian Kingdom. The U.S. soldiers (162 marines and sailors) did not work with the Hawaiian rebels to patrol any streets, surround any buildings, raid any offices, provide any material support or engage in any firefights. There's a huge world of difference between U.S. and Hawai'i when compared to China and Taiwan. If you studied mo'olelo hawai'i, then you would know that the Hawaiian Kingdom was created with great help from kanaka, westerners and asians. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer and unify the islands without great western help (weapons, supplies, counsel, training, tactics and combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole worked together to build the nation. The kanaka, westerners and asians were denizens, citizens and royal subjects. They were kama'āina and ohana. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society. The native hawaiian culture wasn't destroyed. It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian
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  1122. @Srinaath Anbudurai The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1125.  @AlessWorld  Hawai'i was never 'colonized'. Most people don't even know what 'colonization' means. It's just a buzz word to them. Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  1126. Are you sure? Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together and became one ohana, blended by aloha. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1128.  @xtscarfacem8255  The United States didn't commit 'genocide' in Hawai'i. That's an absolute s-t-r-e-t-c-h of a wild imagination. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1130. Sorry, braddah, the revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1132. Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together and became one ohana, blended by aloha. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1133. The U.S. didn't 'conquer' or 'steal' Hawai'i with force. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1134. Annexation. After 128 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision that has declared that Hawai'i was 'occupied' or annexed 'illegally'. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  1139. It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1153. @Jordan Fuifui Bruh, I've been hitting you over the head with facts. Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1156.  @aleisterj.r8848  I understood the joke... it just wasn't funny (or historically accurate). Hawai'i wasn't 'colonized'. Let me make it easier for you to understand... Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  1159. British and American traders worked with Native Hawaiians for 30 years before the first missionaries arrived. King Kamehameha II abolished the old, ancestral religion, commanded all the heiau to be destroyed and terminated the harsh, oppressive kapu religious law six months before the arrival of missionaries. The missionaries didn't force anyone to convert. Kamehameha II didn't convert because he liked his rum and five wives ;) The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1162. Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together - from start to finish. The kanaka, westerners and asians were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The Hawaiian Kingdom was a very western style country. The Royal (mo'i) and Nobility (ali'i) classes embraced the modern world. The missionaries helped create a written language, which was invaluable for knowledge collection, study and sharing. Unfortunately, the Hawaiian Kingdom consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i always needed the protection of a Big Brother.
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  1163.  @alapakeheanu4776  There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1165. That's because it's fully of inaccuracies, half-truths and propaganda. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1166. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter.
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  1172. The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1174. This video was full of misinformation, historical inaccuracies, half truths and propaganda. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1178.  @alapakeheanu4776  Japan and England weren't ready and willing to go to war against the United States over Hawai'i. In 1881, Kalākaua proposed to the Japanese Emperor that they form a confederacy and make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate. He also wanted to arrange a marriage between his niece, Princess Ka’iulani, and Japan’s Prince Yamashina. The Emperor declined because he didn't want to upset the United State. Japan would never have gone to war against the U.S. in 1893. If Japan did propose war, then this would've made huge internatioal news and bolstered the argument (and fear) that Japan wanted to acquire Hawai'i. During the 1887 Revolution, King Kalākaua asked his international allies for assistance, but they refused and advised him to accept the demands and reforms of the Hawaiian League. They weren't very eager to help. During the 1893 Revolution, British Minister Wodehouse requested support from Great Britain, but they declined. Great Britain and Japan weren't eager to fight the U.S. over Hawai'i. You're sadly mistaken or confused. Great Britain and Japan were willing to JOIN the United States, who had threatened military action against the Provisional Government to resinstate the deposed Queen. If the U.S. actually invaded and overthrew the monarchy, then it would be very easy to reinstate Lili'uokalani. But it wasn't. Queen Lili'uokalani was overthrown by a good ol' fashioned homegrown coup who were also citizens, denizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i. They were kama'āina and also a few kanaka. They basically told the U.S. to pound sand. President Cleveland sent two American warships to Hawai'i. The warships aimed their guns at the capital and visibly prepared for an amphibious assault and invasion. Great Britain and Japan wanted to join and help the United States with the invasion. They wanted to intimidate the Provisional Government, but it didn't work. Eight days later, American Minister Wodehouse admitted to President Dole that the invasion threat was just a heavy handed negotiation tactic. Brah, in 1893, Japanese intellectuals viewed native hawaiians as dojin, a derogatory term for 'land people'. The Japanese considered native hawaiians as mentally, physically and culturally inferior. By that time, Japan was entering its period of modernization, imperialism and colonialism. They felt that the Pacific Islanders needed to be guided by a more advanced people. Hawai'i was an invaluable, strategic location for economic, political and military power in the Pacific.
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  1184.  @tsardzhek9166  Ah, but it's far more complicated and not that straightforward. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1186.  @eboygaming8249  I'm from Hawai'i, but why does it matter. The U.S. didn't steal Hawai'i. The Hawaiian Kingdom consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, 1887, and 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1188. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1190.  @richegarcia4531  I did. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1191.  @richegarcia4531  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne.   King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action,  he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  1194.  @richegarcia4531  Queen Lili'uokalani planned to replace the existing constitution with her own was illegal and unconstitutional from the perspective of the Hawaiian Kingdom Constitution. She instigated her own overthrow. Everyone didn't know about Queen Lili'uokalani's plan to unilaterally create and impose a new constitution. Her plan was a secret. She informed her guards and marshall of her plan, commanded them to prepare to quell any riots or rebellion, and swore them to secrecy. Queen Lili'uokalani: Early in January I mentioned to Captain Nowlein of the household guards, and Mr. Wilson the marshall, my intentions to promulgate a new constitution, and to  prepare themselves to quell any riot or outbreak from the opposition. They assured me they would be ready; and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy... The Queen wrote this in her formal, written testimony to Commission Blount and included a copy of her testimony in her book, Hawaii's History. There were many reasons why the rebels overthrew the monarchy. The Hawaiian Kingdom had experienced a great deal of social, economic and political unrest. There was a lot of political fighting. The Treaty of Reciprocity 1875 made plantation owners and the Hawaiian Kingdom both a lot of money. In 1874, Hawai'i generated $1.8M in exports. By 1890, it was $13.3M (an increase of over 700%). Then it went downhill. The U.S. Tariff Act of 1890 caused an economic depression in Hawai'i. The Kalākaua reign was considered corrupt and fiscally irresponsible. He had a new palace built. 'Iolani Palace was originally budgeted for $50K, but it ballooned to almost $350K (because the King wanted more opulence). In 1883, his coronation ceremony exceeded $50K. In 1886, his birthday jubilee was $75K. Kalākaua was a royal playboy who burned through money. Kalākaua was accused of taking large bribes for opium trade licences. Politically, he tried to create a Polynesian Confederacy and even make Hawai'i a Japanese Protectorate. This was all very controversial. The Hawaiian League intimidated Kalākaua and forced him to accept a new constitution. Then Queen Lili'uokalani made her attempt at a power grab to claw back power for the monarchy. And then she was overthrown in a counter-revolution. There's a lot of Hawaiian history to talk about and I barely scratched the surface. In short, the Hawaiian Kingdom was torn apart by many forces (not just sugar).
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  1199.  @richegarcia4531  The Hawaiian League and the Honolulu Rifles were still denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Kingdom. Many were kama'āina. Are you trying to say that they weren't subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom because they were 'white', hapa, descendants of missionaries, or also were U.S. nationals??? The political opponents of Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani's were Hawaiian Kingdom subjects, not the United States of America. Furthermore, did you think the kupuna built the Kingdom by themselves? Nope. Kamehameha couldn't conquer all the islands without western help (weapons, supplies, tactics, training, counsel and even some combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together. We didn't just wake-up to a western style country. Lol. Everyone likes to pretend that the Hawaiian League, Committee of Safety and haole (in general) weren't 'hawaiian', but, from a national perspective, they were. The country wouldn't exist without them. As a result, many of our internal conflicts were mostly a 'hawaiian' problem. The Big Bad U.S.ofA didn't just march across the ocean and 'steal' us. There was a lot of infighting and problems. In 1851, during the French Crisis, Kamehameha III (Kauikeaouli) even requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) Secretary of State Daniel Webster declined. We had lots of problems. Internal (domestic) problems and external (international) problems. Of course I mean Lot Kapuāiwa. Is there any other Kamehameha V in the dynasty? Lol Did Kamehameha V overthrow the 1852 constitution and, effectively, change the government? Yes, he didn't use the constitutional ammendment process to change it. He just made it happen. And he strengthened the executive branch (the King). That's a power grab. It was illegal and unconstitutional. It was a big controversy, but no one was willing to fight a war over it. They just accepted it. Peaceful. Did the Hawaiian League overthrow the government? Yes, but Kalākaua didn't have a bayonet or gun to his throat. Lol. That's a fairy tale. His reign was full of corruption and controversy. The Hawaiian League intimidated him and threatened to overthrow him. Kālakaua didn't want to fight them, couldn't get help from his allies and he folded. The Hawaiian League stripped the monarchy of a lot of power. The pendulum swings. The new constitution was also illegal. Did Queen Lili'uokalani attempt to overthrow the government? Yes. First she tried to ammend the constitution, but she was blocked. So she wanted to just declare a new constitution. Magic. Poof! New constitution. Of course that's illegal and unconstitutional and she pissed (the wrong) people off. Then we get the Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles. Did the U.S. soldiers actively overthrow the monarchy? No, they didn't surround any buildings, raid any offices, patrol any streets or engage in any fire fights. They did nothing but chill in their barracks. They were given commands of neutrality to protect American lives and property. The Blount Report and Morgan Report both agreed that the soldiers took no physical action. Did Minister Stevens provide political support to the insurgents? Yes, he told the rebels that he'd recognize their provisional government if they overthew the queen. The U.S. Minister may have politically backed the coup, but the U.S. soldiers didn't actively help with the revolution. Huge difference. If the U.S. soldiers fought with the rebels, then you would have real dirty business. But that didn't happen. Queen Lili'uokalani thought she could just declare a new constitution and people would complain, maybe there'd be some riots and she could suppress them with her local forces. Well, she didn't expect 1,100 - 1,600 armed militiamen (her royal subjects) to come and surround and take her government. The royalists were ready to fight, but she got cold feet and surrendered. Now, how exactly did the U.S. steal Hawai'i?
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  1204. Did the Tahitians respect the Marquesians? The Marquesians were the first aboriginal colonizers of the Hawaiian archipelago. THEN the Tahitians showed up a few hundred years later to take control of all the islands, create a feudal caste system, impose a new religion, enforce harsh kapu religious law and oppress the maka'āinana for centuries. Did the other chiefdoms like it when Kamehameha killed them and stole all their āina, mana and wealth? Did the British like it when the American colonists seceded from the Empire? No, the British considered them as traitors, secessionist and terrorists just like Queen Lili'uokalani considered the Committee of Safety and insurgents. Ironically, Queen Lili'uokalani was also a traitor because she took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution. Instead of trying to solve problems with political solutions, she tried to take a shortcut with armed revolution and a power play that backfired on her. Play stupid games, when stupid prizes. Lastly, what does it mean to 'respect' the people of the land? Does that mean we need to have preferential treatment? Perks? No can. Hawai'i is a multiethnic, multinational and multicultural society. We are all equal. No one ethnic group has more rights than another. If you grew up in Hawai'i, then you would know this. Everyone is Hawai'i (kanaka, westerners and asians) have been blended with the spirit of aloha. We're all ohana and kama'āina. There are only 4,000 - 8,000 kanaka with 💯 koko hawai'i. The rest, who claim to be 'Native Hawaiian' are really hapa. And that's okay. We're all human beings.
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  1206. Hawai'i doesn't belong to one religious, ethnic group. Everyone (whether polynesian, westerner, asian, etc) is welcome. Kamehameha couldn't conquer all the island chiefdoms without great help from westerners (weapons, supplies, counsel, training, tactics and combat support). Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religion, economic, political and military) with native hawaiian traditions. The Hawaiian Kingdom was built by kanaka, westerners and asians, from start to finish. Kamehameha even invited haole into his royal family, granted them ali'i status, gave them governorships and so on. They're all kama'āina and ohana. The islands are blended with aloha, many generations deep. Real talk. The Marquesians migrated to Hawai'i first. They were the FIRST aboriginal settlers. Then the Tahitians showed up and took control of the islands. Power shift. After that, the chiefdoms fought amongst themselves stealing the land back and forth until... Kamehameha steamrolled all the chiefdoms with western weapons and help. It's called Hawai'i because the Big Island conquered all of the other islands to create the Kingdom of Hawai'i. Please spare me the "We had it first" argument. It doesn't matter who had it first, but who has it now. Hawai'i is part of the United States. We're not ruled by the mo'i, ali'i, konohiki or queen. We live in a diverse society with people from all over the world. If every defeated people pissed and moaned about the land they lost, then this world would be stuck in endless struggle, conflict and warfare. Do you think the Marquesians, Tahitians, Chiefdoms, Mo'i, and Monarchy were happy when they lost? Do you think the islands liked being conquered by Kamehameha? Now, he's a hero. Lol Oh, my dear, you want to talk about land? The Great Māhele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the āina for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. These land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the ahupua'a for generations. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Māhele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball.
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  1208. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1209.  @anelabenson  Auwe, have you done any research? After 128 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision that has declared that Hawai'i was 'occupied' or annexed 'illegally'. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  1211.  @anshulkrishnadasbhagwat962  The United States didn't 'steal' Hawai'i. Lol. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1212.  @anshulkrishnadasbhagwat962  The U.S. didn't colonize Hawai'i. Let me make it easier for you to understand. Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1778 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes. Did the hawaiians receive all the same rights as Americans? Yes. The Organic Act of 1900 gave Hawaiians U.S. citizenship and the Statehood Act of 1959 gave them representation in Congress and the right to vote in federal elections. See, it's not a colony ;)
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  1221. Many U.S. politicians and businesses opposed Hawaiian annexation because of competition with American intetests. The U.S. already had significant sugar production from Louisiana, Texas and Cuba. The British and American traders already worked with Native Hawaiians for 30 years before any missionaries arrived to Hawai'i. In 1819, King Kamehameha II abolished the old, ancestral religion, commanded all heiau to be destroyed and terminated the harsh, oppressive kapu religious law six months before the arrival of missionaries. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1222. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  1224.  @MrShirial  Brah, you need to learn more mo'olelo hawai'i 1. What are you rambling about? Lol 2. Queen Lili'uokalani attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. She wanted to have a revolution and use her royal forces to defend her arrogant, dumb power grab. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. She instigated her own overthrow. Did you think her political opponents were just going to sit back, say nothing and let her just overthrow the government like Kamehameha V did in 1864? She took a major gamble, got cold feet and surrendered in ONE DAY. Aloha 'Oe. It is what it is. 3. Queen Lili'uokalani, the royalists, the rebels and the American soldiers all agreed in their testimony that the U.S. soldiers did not actively participate in the Revolution of 1893. They just chilled in their barracks and did nothing. Queen Lili'uokalani was more worried about the 1,100 - 1,600 angry, armed Honolulu Rifles (denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom) who were patrolling the streets, surrounding government buildings, raiding offices and trying to overthrow her. Duh! The insurgents had full control of the government apparatus. Queen Liliuokalani abdicated the throne and released a statement pledging her loyalty to the Provisional Government. Check out her abdication letter and oath pledge. In 1894, the Provisional Government became the Republic of Hawaii. President Cleveland was good friends with Queen Lili'uokalani and he tried to mediate a solution to reinstate her to the throne. The Americans, British and Japanese sent warships to visibly prepare for an invasion of Hawai'i, but the rebels wouldn't yield to their intimidation tactics. They politely told Cleveland to pound sand. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate the alleged U.S. involvement in the Revolution of 1893. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. Cleveland then withdrew his support to reinstate the deposed queen, re-established diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. In 1895, Robert Wilcox and the royalists led a counter-revolution and they were defeated. The new government defended itself and cemented its power over the country. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. and the U.S. accepted. The Republic of Hawaii unanimously approved the annexation and the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives both approved with a two thirds majority. All of the Hawaiian Kingdom's allies and treaty holders (all 19 of them!) provide de facto and written formal recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Territory of Hawaii. The international community legitimized the annexation. The annexation was legal. Deal With It.
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  1230.  @rebeccaanderson5626  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne. King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action, he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. The Queen and Hui Kālaiʻāina opposed the 1887 Constitution. They wanted to amend it and regain power. They organized a petition for a new constitution. Lili'uokalani claimed that "out of a possible 9500 registered voters, 6500, or two-thirds, had signed these petitions" and she couldn't ignore their request and be "deaf to the voice of the people, which tradition tells us is the voice of God." Unfortunately, the petitions have been lost to history, only a small, incomplete part remains. Queen Lili'uokalani repeatedly tried to ammend the 1887 Constitution, but all her efforts failed. So she tried a very risky and illegal move. She wanted to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogate the legislature, unilaterally make her own, promulgate it via (magical) royal proclamation and defend her revolution with the military. This was very illegal and unconstitutional. And it backfired on her - very badly. She instigated her own overthrow. She used the 'will of the people' as a pretense for a power grab.
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  1231.  @TheSolarWolf  Brah, your whole argument can be summarized as "Nuh uh". All of those points flew so far over your head that you would need an astronaut suit just to catch up. The Hawaiian Kingdom wasn't a monolithic culture. It was a pluralistic society consisting of native hawaiians, westerners and asians. That matters greatly. Did you actually think one ethnic group had magical superiority over all others? Does your country have one magical ethnic group that's superior to all others? Nope. Now, I could dismantle every one of your 'Nuh Uh' rebuttals, but you would just continue to say 'Nuh Uh'. The Hawaiian Kingdom failed due to many social, economic and political reasons. The Monarchy was overthrown by a successful Revolution. Someone is always overthrown in a successful Revolution. Queen Lili'uokalani attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab that backfired in her face. Nobody forced her to try to overthrow the existing government. She gave her political enemies all the rope they needed to hang her... and she got hung out to dry. She admitted in formal written testimony to Commissioner Blount and admitted again in her own book, Hawaii's Story, that she tried to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogue the legislature, unilaterally create her own constitution, strengthen her autocratic powers and defend her revolution with military force... but she got cold feet. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles rolled her like a coconut downhill and into the ocean. Furthermore, the Queen, her royalists, the rebels and American soldiers all testified that the U.S. soldiers played no active part in the Revolution of 1893. The United States, Great Britain and Japan even sent warships to Hawai'i to visibly prepare for an invasion to reinstate the Queen, but the insurgents called their bluff and would'nt yield. Cleveland demanded that the rebels reinstate the former queen, but President Dole told the U.S. to pound sand. Johnny Harris didn't cover any of this history because it deflates his lazy narrative. This video painstakingly revealed that it's historical 'research' is bottom tier and more focused on propaganda than genuine historical analysis.
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  1232.  @rebeccaanderson5626  Did you actually ignore Kamehameha V's overthrow of the 1852 Constitution in 1864? He even introduced the first income, property and literacy tests that disenfranchised voters and ended universal suffrage. That was before the Revolution of 1887. Kamehameha V's actions were illegal (1864), just like the Hawaiian League's actions were illegal (1887), just like the Committee of Safety's actions were illegal (1893). By definition, all revolutions are illegal (obviously). Queen Lili'uokalani didn't amend or reform the Constitution via legal methods. She tried to lead a revolution and she failed miserably. She tried to make the same political power grab as Kamehameha V did in 1864, but, this time, people opposed her. She created a political crisis and it didn't end well for her. King Kalākaua peacefully yielded to the Hawaiian League's demands. No fighting, no resistance, no civil war. He surrendered without a fight. There are no accounts of the Hawaiian League putting a gun or knife to his throat or physically and violently overthrowing his government. He actually kept his job ;) Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If they want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the alleged role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were naturalized citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom.The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report, which is still the last word and final government report on the matter.
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  1233.  @rebeccaanderson5626  Auwe, Rebecca, are you actually going to try and copy-and-paste Dr. Sai's weak arguments and Hawaiian Kingdom website propaganda? No can. Lol. The Morgan Report refuted the conclusions of the Blount Report and it's the official, final word on the matter. It's considered to be the more thorough and objective report because witness interviews happened in public under sworn oath and with cross examination and he interviewed participants from all sides, which had not happened in the Blount investigation. Many people criticized the integrity of Blount's investigation. Commissioner Blount was the only person who investigated and wrote the Blount Report. President Cleveland secretely appointed one (1) person to act on his behalf, delegated him a high level of authority and power, didn't receive Senate confirmation and he didn't even notify the Senate of his appointment. Cleveland gave one man paramount power and secret instructions to investigate the revolution and provisional government. And how did Blount conduct his investigation? He had private and informal conversations with royalists and annexationists. However, he only requested that royalists meet with him to give formal statements, which weren't under oath, and they were recorded by a stenographer to be later memorialized in the Blount Report. After only ONE WEEK in office, President Cleveland empowered ONE MAN to secretly conduct an investigation that was lopsided and lacked integrity. Cleveland was trying to reinstate his friend Lili'uokalani as soon as possible. Blount falsely claimed that the United States military and agents overthrew the government. Cleveland declared that the revolution was improper due to alleged U.S. involvement. He asked Congress to quickly investigate the matter and resolve the issue, i.e. reinstate Lili'uokalani (former Queen) to her throne. The Senate Committee of Foreign Relations then commissioned an investigation, which led to the Morgan Report, the repudiation of the Blount Report and the exoneration of the U.S. military and agents. The U.S. President (Cleveland) was a Democrat and the Democrats had majority control of the Senate. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations consisted of nine (9) members - five (5) Democrats and four (4) Republicans. The Blount Report involved one person while the Morgan Report involved a Committee of nine, non-partisan committee members of the Senate. The Committee on Foreign Relations required that 1) witnesses from both sides (royalist and annexationist) undergo formal interview, 2) interviews occurred in open, public hearings, 3) witnesses were sworn under oath to tell the truth and 4) witnesses could be cross-examined. In contrast, Blount held formal interviews with only royalists, held secret, private meetings, didn't require testimony under oath and there was no cross-examination. The Morgan Report repudiated the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations conducted a more objective, non-biased, transparent and procedural investigation than Blount. Even the dissenting monority opinion agreed that U.S. soldiers remained neutral during the overthrow. The Morgan Report is still, to this day, the official, last word and final government report on U.S. military involvement in the Hawaiian overthrow. President Cleveland accepted the conclusions of the Morgan Report, withdrew his support for the reinstatement of Liliuokalani, engaged in diplomatic relations with the Provisional Government, provided formal recognition of the Republic of Hawaii and established diplomatic ties and treaties with the new country. All of the Hawaiian Kingdom's allies (all nineteen!) and treaty partners provided de facto and formal recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Territory of Hawaii. The international community legitimized every step of Hawaii's transition from Hawaiian Kingdom, to Provisional Government, to Republic of Hawaii and to Territory of the United States. Dr. David Keanu Sai is pushin' cheap history like one janitor with a dusty broom. He hasn't proven that the annexation was unlawful. If you're gonna step to me, then you better come correct, titah.😉 Even Queen Lili'uokalani and her royalists testified to Commissioner Blount that the American soldiers didn't actively participate in the Revolution of 1893.
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  1234.  @rebeccaanderson5626  Accepting defeat? Lol😂 Unfortunately, Rebecca, you're wrong again. Do you even know Hawaiian History? It doesn't look like it. - I already thoroughly explained how and why the Morgan Report is the final last word on the matter and how it refuted the Blount Report. You're just in denial. President Cleveland tried to mediate a solution to reinstate the former queen. After the Morgan Report was released, Cleveland withdrew all his support, re-established diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. The Apology Resolution (U.S. Public Law 103-150, 107 Stat. 1510) is only a five page opinion statement full of whereas clauses that does nothing to refute the Morgan Report. Were you impressed by five pages of opinion statement and whereas clauses? Lol. The Morgan Report was led by the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. It was a large-scale, methodical investigation and a ONE THOUSAND, ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX page report while the Apology Resolution was an anemic FIVE PAGE opinion statement. Lol - Military support? Queen Lili'uokalani and the royalists testified that the American soldiers didn't play any active role in the Revolution of 1893. The U.S. soldiers didn't surround any buildings, patrol any streets, raid any offices, engage in any combat or provide any material support to the rebels. The U.S. didn't fight any wars or battles with the Hawaiian Kingdom. The U.S. soldiers marches past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen, lowered their flags as a sign of international neutrality and retired to their barracks... to do absolutely nothing. There's nothing in the historical records to show ANY American aggression in Hawai'i. There were only 162 U.S. marines and sailors (Sailors! Lol), which is nothing, especially when compared to the 1,100 - 1,600 Honolulu Rifles who raided the local armory, surrounded government buildings, sacked the offices and actually overthrew the monarchy. You desperately want to blame U.S. soldiers, but you're struggling to find any real evidence of American 'aggression'. The Honolulu Rifles militia force was much larger than the small American landing force. Did you actually think the U.S. invaded Hawai'i? If you want a REAL U.S. invasion and war, then take a look at Haiti in 1915 - 1934. That was a REAL military occupation, not an imaginary like Dr. Sai's. - Military support? Queen Lili'uokalani and the royalists testified that the American soldiers didn't play any active role in the Revolution of 1893. The U.S. soldiers didn't surround any buildings, patrol any streets, raid any offices, engage in any combat or provide any material support to the rebels. The U.S. didn't fight any wars or battles with the Hawaiian Kingdom. The U.S. soldiers marches past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen, lowered their flags as a sign of international neutrality and retired to their barracks... to do absolutely nothing. There's nothing in the historical records to show ANY American aggression in Hawai'i. There were only 162 U.S. marines and sailors (Sailors! Lol), which is nothing, especially when compared to the 1,100 - 1,600 Honolulu Rifles who raided the local armory, surrounded government buildings, sacked the offices and actually overthrew the monarchy. You desperately want to blame U.S. soldiers, but you're struggling to find any real evidence of American 'aggression'. The Honolulu Rifles militia force was much larger than the small American landing force. Did you actually think the U.S. invaded Hawai'i? If you want a REAL U.S. invasion and war, then take a look at Haiti in 1915 - 1934. That was a REAL military occupation, not an imaginary like Dr. Sai's.
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  1235.  @rebeccaanderson5626  - Why would the United States send U.S. soldiers to Hawai'i? Thank you for asking!😄 The Hawaiian Kingdom was a weak country that consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without British and American help. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. Even President Cleveland, great friend of Lili'uokalani, referred to Hawai'i as 'feeble'. After Queen Lili'uokalani attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab (with the threat of military force), her political opponents requested help from Minister Stevens. Minister Stevens told them that he could provide them political support, but he couldn't give them military support. He told them that the U.S. would recognize their government if they could take over the government. Guess what? The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles easily overthrew the monarchy (without any U.S. military help). - Foreigners? The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles were local Hawaiian residents who lived, raised families, paid taxes and built their lives in Hawai'i. The rebels who overthrew the monarchy were all denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Hawaiian Kingdom was built by native hawaiians, westerners and asians, from start to finish. Did you think that only the native hawaiians built the Hawaiian Kingdom? Nope. Kamehameha couldn't conquer the islands and couldn't build the Hawaiian Kingdom without westerners and later asian help. Hawaiian Kings intentionally blended western systems (education, religious, economic, political and military) with polynesian traditions. How were they 'foreigners'? They weren't. They were ohana, kama'āina and helped build the country. Did you think one ethnic group was important and superior the rest of the country? Nope, that's racism. Demographically, by 1893, the Hawaiian Kingdom was one third kanaka, one third westerner and one third asian. It was a multiethnic, multinational and multicultural society. They weren't foreigners... more like countrymen. But, hey, if all see you see is skin color, then it's easy to stupidly see them as 'foreigners'. Lol
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  1236.  @rebeccaanderson5626  Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance. - You can't even explain how the U.S. soldiers 'butressed' the rebellion. Did the U.S. soldiers surround any buildings, patrol any streets, raid any buildings, engage is combat or provide any material support to the rebels? Nope. Then how exactly, did the U.S. soldiers 'buttress' the rebellion? They didn't. Lol. By the way, mahalo for acknowledging that the Revolution of 1893 was a rebellion. The Queen attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab and she planned to use her military to defend her revolution and suppress any opposition. She instigated her own overthrow by her own countrymen who led a successful counter-revolution. - Did you actually think that 10 minute Weird History video proves that the United States 'destroyed' Hawaiian culture?🤭 That video was just as biased and poorly researched as this Johnny Harris video. No doubt, there will always be culture change and transformation when two civilizations meet and interact, especially when a primitive civilization encounters a more advanced one. That's very obvious. The Weird History video didn't talk about how, in 1819, King Kamehameha II abolished the old, ancestral religion, terminated the harsh kapu religious legal system, commanded all heiau to be destroyed and fought a war (against other kanaka) to defend and enforce his policy. It didn't talk about how the maka'āinana was oppressed by kapu for generations in an awful feudal caste system. It didn't talk about how the missionaries arrived SIX MONTHS AFTER the old religion was abolished or how the kanaka maoli hated kapu and ali'i abuses. Your silly video also didn't talk about how the Mo'i (Hawaiian Kings) intentionally enacted an education policy that transformed Native Hawaiian medium schools to English-only, immersion schools. Have you even read His Majesty's Speeches on education policy? Nope. The 'olelo Hawai'i wasn't banned. English became the main language for schools and government. However, kanaka were still free to speak the 'olelo at home, in private, with family and friends, in business and other public places. There are many reasons why the native hawaiian language dwindled and almost became extinct. Meanwhile, in Hawai'i, the Japanese migrant workers maintained their language and their culture because they actively sent their children to secondary education schools and kept their culture alive. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that transitioned rom Native Hawaiian medium schools to English-only immersion schools. Many people don't know about (or blatantly ignore) the English initiatives of the King and Legislature. In 1882, the Board of Education implemented a policy where all academic subjects were to be taught only in English and all other languages were discouraged (Kanaka, Japanese, Portuguese, Filipino, etc). They believed that total immersion would lead to quicker English language proficiency. Between 1834-1948, there were over 100 different Hawaiian language newspapers. Furthermore, some Hawaiian newspapers actively opposed the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and the Annexation. There wasn't a public-wide ban of the 'olelo. The 'olelo was not used for formal school instruction (based on Hawaiian Kingdom long-term policy trends), but the Hawaiian Language was still available as an elective course at the high school level. More importantly, the language wasn't 'banned' in private and other public spaces. If the ohana didn't pass on the 'olelo hawai'i to their keike, then that's on them. Culture and language always starts at home. The Japanese penal contract laborers endured truly harsh social, economic and political conditions and disadvantages. However, they were able to maintain their native language with community support and secondary language schools. Meanwhile, the kanaka voluntarily allowed their language to dwindle for various reasons (more advantageous and beneficial, Hawaiian Kingdom policy, perceived shame of speaking native tongue, embracing Western ideals, etc). There was no law that abolished the language. There are some who perpetuate a 'ban' as propaganda, but they don't have history to back them up.
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  1249.  @mrterryseow3909  The United States didn't assassinate any royal family members. That's conspiracy theory. Like I said, there is no comparison between Hawai'i and Tibet. The People's Republic China conducted a REAL military invasion of Tibet and killed, injured and captured many Tibetans. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. The Hawaiian Kingdom consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother.
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  1254. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. How exactly did the United States 'steal' the Hawaiian Islands and destroy its culture?
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  1260.  @nickrnmaui  No problem, brah. But consider this, cousin. The Kingdom consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. It couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Paulet's annexation for Britain, the Kalākua election riot, Revolution of 1864, 1887 and 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined, too. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. We weren't always on the path of independence and we got our lickins. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. We could've been gobbled up any time, and we even offered to share our kuleana with others. Hawai'i always needed the protection of a Big Brother. Civil War? A'ole pilikia. What are we gonna do? Paddle out and throw our slippahs at an aircraft carrier. The kanaka, hapa and haole are all ohana and kama'āina. Yea, yea, Hawai'i loves those who loves Hawai'i💝 and we love the U.S.of A. Every family has their ups and downs. Hawai'i needs to take care of itself better and stop blaming Uncle Sam. We need to be Uncle Do Bettah. Malama pono.
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  1270. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1272.  @ckaybit  So you can't answer the simple question?😄 It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian  1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian
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  1279. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1285.  @spicymangooo  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1286.  @spicymangooo  Did Kamehameha conquer and unify the islands on his own? No, he needed great help from westerners (British and Americans). Did the United States or Great Britain declare or claim Hawai'i as a colony? No. Did kanaka, westerners and asians build the country together? Yes, every step of the way. Were the westerners and asians denizens, citizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i? Yes. Did the westerners and asians live, work, pay taxes and support the Hawaiian Kingdom? Yes, the haole had a long history with Hawai'i from 1777 through 1893. Was the Hawaiian Kingdom a multiethnic, multicultural and multinational society? Yes. Did the Hawaiian Kingdom requested protectorate status or annexation from other countries? Yes. King Kamehameha wanted to make Hawai'i a British protectorate. King Kamehameha III requested annexation by the United States. King Kalākaua wanted to become a Japanese protectorate. Did the United States 'steal' Hawai'i? No, the U.S. declined an annexation request in 1851 and 1893. The Republic of Hawaii requested annexation in 1898 (five years after the monarchy's overthrow) and the U.S. accepted. If the U.S. were greedy, landgrabbing colonialists, then why didn't they grab Hawai'i sooner? They weren't. Did the United States overthrow the Monarchy? No, the Morgan Report exonerated the U.S. soldiers and agents of any involvement in the Revolution of 1893. I suggest you look at the Committee of Safety and the Honolulu Rifles. There were 1,100 - 1,600 angry hawaiians who overthrew Queen Lili'uokalani after she attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. Some Hawaiians wanted to maintain the monarchy, some wanted a republic and some wanted annexation. Was Hawai'i an American colony? No, it was a country that got annexed by the U.S. after the Revolution of 1893 led to the creation of a provisional government and later the Republic of Hawaii. The rebels had control of the government and requested annexation. Did some colonists object to secession from the British Empire? Yes. Did some Texans object to annexation? Yes. Did some Californians object annexation? Yes. Did some kanaka object to Kamehameha's conquest of Hawai'i? Yes. Does it matter? No, the government decides what happens with the territory. There's no requirement for public referendum or plebiscite. Did 93% of Hawaiian voters choose statehood? Yes.
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  1295. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1300. The United States didn't steal Hawai'i. Lol. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1301. British and American traders were working with Hawai'i for thirty years before the missionaries arrived. In 1819, King Kamehameha II abolished the old religion, commanded all heiau to be destroyed and ended the harsh, oppressive kapu religious law SIX MONTHS before any missionaries arrived. This video's a joke. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1309. Nah, he hit his thumb, not the nail. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1311.  @ThaEzioAuditore  Illegal occupation? Lol. Not a chance. Annexation. After 128 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision that has declared that Hawai'i was 'occupied' or annexed 'illegally'. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424?seq=1 ✔✔✔
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  1314.  @deontaer  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1317.  @saikauwe3601  Sorry, but your grandparents are full of shish (just on this subject). If people were being 'publicly beaten in the streets', then it would be super easy to find evidence... but their isn't widespread evidence of a 'ban'. The Japanese-Americans didn't lose their language because they 1) cared, 2) sent their kids to secondary school and 3) used their language. We almost lost the 'olelo for several different reasons. Some parents wanted their kids to use english to be more successful. Some were ashamed to speak Hawaiian. Some naturally abandoned it as part of Americanization. And so on. It's the same story as people who immigrated to the U.S., excepted kanaka didn't immigrate. Hawai'i was annexed and incorporated into the U.S. Many kanaka are protesting the TMT on Mauna a Wākea because they want to complain about past historical grievances (Hawaiian Kingdom) and several of them think that it will be the magic bullet that will solve their problems. They took hostage a peaceful, benign, altruistic telescope for their silly independence politics. The kia'i (cough, protesters, cough) are an embarrassment to the lāhui. They're villainizing a telescope - a tool of learning. There's no comparison between a telescope and an oil pipeline, coal strip mine, military training area, factory, megafarm, hotel resort, etc. Telescopes have very small environmental footprints by design. The TMT is designed to be a very environmentally friendly, zero-waste facility, but the protesters don't care. The protesters even spread lies that the TMT was nuclear powered and was going to poison the aquifer system. Lol
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  1325.  @Bthefilmer  You claimed that the United States was responsible for the Revolution of 1887, which is wrong. You claimed that the Apology Resolution was based on the Revolution of 1897, which is wrong. You haven't researched whether the Apology Resolution is legal or actionable. You create a strawman argument that my argument is based on 'Wikipedia'. So far, you haven't provided any compelling evidence to back up your claims. For mine, you can easily verify everything. The Supreme Court ruled in the Supreme Court vs Office of Hawaiian Affairs that the Apology Resolution has zero legal impact on territorial claims because it's an opinion statement. After 130 years, there hasn't been a single United States or International Court decision to declare it was illegal. There hasn't been a single federal report to refute the Morgan Report (and, yes, activists have tried to convince the government with no success); it is always being challenged by activists, but their arguments hold no water and go nowhere. Dr. David Keanu Sai hasn't won a single significant victory for his independence movie after his ~30 years of activism. If you conduct any kind of documentary, I HOPE that you are able to actually investigate the validity and integrity of all sides of this debate. Each one of Dr. Sai's silly claims can easily be refuted. I have researched his work and tried to verify his claims. I hope you have great research skills! Why? Obviously, a Hawaiian independence activist is going to lie through their teeth to paint a very rosey picture. Why? Because they have an extremely biased and personal desire for it to be 'true'. Dr. Sai even states in his speeches that he wants to 'control the narrative'. Thank you for your time.😃 Do you have an SPECIFIC questions about his arguments? He takes a revisionist view of history and tries to retroactively apply today's laws that were created AFTER historical events. Obviously, you can't take today's laws and apply them to situations that existed before the laws were ever created and enforced. Dr. Sai is a con man.
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  1326.  @Bthefilmer  Fact. The U.S. aquired four sovereign, independent states: Hawai'i, Texas, California and Vermont. Hawai'i and Texas were both annexed with joint resolution, Vermont was through a legislative act of Congress, and California was via a treaty. Texas and California both involved wars and Hawai'i and Vermont joined the union peacefully. In all those cases, there were people who didn't want to join the U.S. There were many different ways that foreign land was acquired. Fact. The United Nations never declared that Hawaii was under military occupation. De Zayas reported in a memo that Hawaii was under a "strange form of occupation" by the U.S. However, he doesn't officially represent the U.N. He's a volunteer who had a short term as a United Nations Independent Expert on the Promotion of a Democratic and Equitable International Order. A spokesperson distanced the U.N. from the memo and said that "They are his own views and as such they should not have been sent out using our letterhead.” The United Nations made no officual statement in support of de Zayas. Later, de Zayas admitted that Hawaii is "formally part of the US". Dr. David Keanu Sai's website "hawaiiankingdom.org" omits all this material and pertinent information. Fact. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S involvement in Hawaii's Revolution of 1893. The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerates the U.S. military and agents of any involvement. After the report was delivered, Cleveland withdrew all of his support to reinstate the deposed queen, reestablished diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them
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  1327.  @Bthefilmer  Fact. There was no executive agreement between Queen Likiuokalani and President Cleveland to transfer sovereign control to the United States. There was no meeting where Cleveland formally accepted Liiuokalani's executive powers AND he never formally obligated the United States to reinstate her monarchy. The Queen tried to transfer her powers, but the U.S. never formally accepted them. Cleveland was a friend of Liliuokalani and he agreed to help mediate a solution to reinstate her. That all fell apart after the Queen refused to pardon the insurgents and demanded their execution (beheading). Furthermore, the insurgents were unwilling to reinstate the monarchy. Fact. Larsen v. Hawaiian Kingdom doesn't prove anything about the current existence of the country nor does it make a ruling about the legality of Hawaii's annexation. Lance Larson and Keanu Sai conspired to file a court case with the Permanent Court of Arbitration under UNCITRAL Arbitration Rules 1976. UNCITRAL is the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law. This wasn't even a court that could settle territorial boundary disputes or war crimes. Larsen and Sai made a plan where Larsen would drive without a Hawaiian license plate and driver's license. He didn't pay any of his fines and spent 30 days in jail as a penalty. Sai claimed he was acting Regent Pro Tem for the Kingdom of Hawaii. Larsen sued the Kingdom (Sai) for failing to protect him from the State of Hawaii. The Tribunal of Arbiters had to hear the case because the Claimant filed suit against the Hawaiian Kingdom and (once upon a time) the country did actually exist. The Tribunal dismissed the case because they couldn't rule on the legality of anyone's actions because the United States would have to be a party of the case since they annexed and owned Hawaii. Larsen v. Hawaiian Kingdom proved absolutely nothing about the former country's existence and the legality of Hawaii's annexation. The case was dismissed, with no legal decision or impact. Read the actual arbitration ruling. Keanu Sai made a false victory proclamation despite winning nothing other than a public relations stunt.
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  1330.  @thealohamu808  There was no Executive Agreement between Liliuokalani and Cleveland. Historically, executive agreements were considered politically binding to distinguish them from treaties which are legally binding. In the modern era, U.S. executive agreements are binding internationally if they are 1) negotiated and entered into under the president's authority in foreign policy, 2) as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, or from 3) a prior act of Congress. So far, so good right? Wait! It's too good to be true. President Cleveland didn't draft, review and sign one formal executive agreement document that clearly and concisely explained the what the agreement was (similar to proposing legislation, resolution or treaty) and gain Liliuokalani's approval signature. They just had a series of correspondence letters. They had a discussion of how they could mutually tackle problems, but this falls short of a legal and binding agreement that imposes an enforceable obligation. FURTHERMORE, the modern power of executive agreement didn't exist until the Supreme Court decision of United States v. Pink (1942)._ Since the 1940s*, the vast majority of international agreements have been completed by presidents as executive agreements rather than as treaties. This major policy evolution occurred without changes to the Constitution, though Supreme Court decisions and practice by the political branches have validated the change. Furthermore, the criteria for executive agreements was documented in the Department of State's Foreign Affairs Manual, which was published in 1980 per the Foreign Services Act. *Dr. Sai frequently tries to take laws, processes and other legal ideas that existed AFTER 1898 to make a counterfeit argument. There was no executive agreement between Queen Liliuokalani and President Cleveland to transfer sovereign control to the United States. There was no meeting where Cleveland formally accepted Liliuokalani's executive powers AND he never formally obligated the United States to reinstate her monarchy. The Queen tried to transfer her powers, but the U.S. never formally accepted them. Cleveland was a friend of Liliuokalani and he agreed to help mediate a solution to reinstate her. That all fell apart after the Queen refused to pardon the insurgents and demanded their execution (beheading). Furthermore, the insurgents were unwilling to reinstate the monarchy.
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  1332. - After the Revolution of1893, all of the Hawaiian Kingdom's allies and treaty holders provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every step of the Hawaiian Kingdom's transition to U.S. Territory. - King Kalākaua did great things for Hawai'i, such as modernization and cultural revival, but some people exaggerate or misrepresent his accomplishments. - King Kalākaua tried to wed Princess Ka’iulani with Japan’s Prince Yamashina, but the Emperor of Japan declined the surprise, unexpected offer. They weren't even close to being married. Prince Yamashina already had been setup for an arraged marriage. Furthermore,  Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. - The power generation, distribution and lighting for 'Iolani Palace was all invented, manufactured and installed by western companies. There's no bragging rights for signing up for a utility service. Lol. Maui sugar plantations (operated by westerners) had electricity before the Palace. - Kalākaua tried to place Hawai'i under a Japanese protectorate and create a Polynesian Confederacy. However, both ideas were very unpopular with his hawaiian subjects. Ironically, Kalākaua's dream (and Gibson's fantasy) of a Polynesian Confederacy was a form of imperialism because he wanted Hawai'i to be its leading member and he wanted many Pacific Islands to join. - The Hawaiian Kingdom also sent many hawaiians to foreign countries for education and training, which included the future Queen Lili'uokalani.
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  1338. The Great Mahele of 1848 was the biggest land policy failure of Hawaiian Kingdom history. The king, ali'i and konohiki screwed over the maka'ainana and took all the land for themselves. Only less than 1% of the maka'ainana got land, which was about 30,000 acres. The powerful kanaka monarchy and nobility class got 4 million acres. 1 million for the King, 1.5 million for the government and 1.5 million for the nobility. Even worse, the kanaka elitists mismanaged their finances and sold off a great deal of land to foreigners to repay debts. The allodial land rights were designed to protect powerful kanaka while the actual land policies screwed over the common folk, the real hawaiians, the ones who actually managed and cultivated the land for generations. There are many protesters who complain about their "allodial" rights because they're hungry for a huge windfall based on genealogical claim... because their ancestors exploited their own people for great personal gain. The feudal lords of chiefdom days became the royal nobility of the Hawaiian Kingdom. And the exploitation didn't stop. The Great Mahele was a Great Crime of kanaka-on-kanaka fraud. The āina is life, mana, wealth, prosperity and happiness. The kanaka royalty and nobility classes stole all the land and screwed over the commoners, who had tended the ahupua'a for generations. They put native hawaiians behind the eight ball. Who's the thief? The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1342.  @lisashung9442  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1343. Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together and became one ohana, blended by aloha. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1348. Except the United States didn't overthrow Hawai'i. Don't laugh until you actually study the mo'olelo hawai'i. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1353.  @alapakeheanu4776  Japan and England weren't ready and willing to go to war against the United States over Hawai'i. In 1881, Kalākaua proposed to the Japanese Emperor that they form a confederacy and make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate. He also wanted to arrange a marriage between his niece, Princess Ka’iulani, and Japan’s Prince Yamashina. The Emperor declined because he didn't want to upset the United State. Japan would never have gone to war against the U.S. in 1893. If Japan did propose war, then this would've made huge internatioal news and bolstered the argument (and fear) that Japan wanted to acquire Hawai'i. During the 1887 Revolution, King Kalākaua asked his international allies for assistance, but they refused and advised him to accept the demands and reforms of the Hawaiian League. They weren't very eager to help. During the 1893 Revolution, British Minister Wodehouse requested support from Great Britain, but they declined. Great Britain and Japan weren't eager to fight the U.S. over Hawai'i. You're sadly mistaken or confused. Great Britain and Japan were willing to JOIN the United States, who had threatened military action against the Provisional Government to resinstate the deposed Queen. If the U.S. actually invaded and overthrew the monarchy, then it would be very easy to reinstate Lili'uokalani. But it wasn't. Queen Lili'uokalani was overthrown by a good ol' fashioned homegrown coup who were also citizens, denizens and royal subjects of Hawai'i. They were kama'āina and also a few kanaka. They basically told the U.S. to pound sand. President Cleveland sent two American warships to Hawai'i. The warships aimed their guns at the capital and visibly prepared for an amphibious assault and invasion. Great Britain and Japan wanted to join and help the United States with the invasion. They wanted to intimidate the Provisional Government, but it didn't work. Eight days later, American Minister Wodehouse admitted to President Dole that the invasion threat was just a heavy handed negotiation tactic.
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  1355.  @DD-jg8xr  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1356. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1360. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  1363.  @geminikuan  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. The Hawaiian Kingdom consistently depended on the help of stronger, more powerful nations. The Kingdom couldn't defend itself against the French Crisis, Russian incursion into Kauai, Captain Lord Paulet's annexation for Britain, Kalākua election riots, Revolution of 1864, Revolution of 1887, and Revolution of 1893. It always required help from foreign powers. Early on, Hawai'i wanted to become a British protectorate. In 1851, during the French Crisis, King Kamehameha III secretly requested annexation by the United States, but (ironically) the U.S. declined. King Kalākaua wanted to make Hawai'i a Japanese protectorate, but the Emperor declined. In 1893, the Provisional Government requested annexation, but the U.S. declined again. In 1898, the Republic of Hawaii requested annexation by the U.S. (a third time by Hawaii!!!), but this time it accepted. And this was five years after the overthrow. This hardly looks like American aggression. Hawai'i was a feeble country that always needed the protection of a Big Brother. The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli.
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  1366.  @geminikuan  The Queen instigated her own overthrow. She even admitted it in her own testimony and book. The Hawaiian Kingdom was built (from start to finish) by kanaka, westerners and asians. They were kama'āina. Her political opponents found out about her secret plot. Then they organized, mobilized and led a successful counter-revolution to overthrow her. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Kingdom. There were 1,100 - 1,600 armed rebels who took control of the government (not the U.S).  The Queen was definitely concerned about the large, local (hawaiian) insurgent force that assembled to challenge her government. And what happened? She got cold feet, surrendered and yielded control to the rebels (who formed a new government). The U.S. didn't 'invade' Hawai'i. It landed 162 marines and SAILORS (Sailors! Lol) as a peacekeeping force who were given strict orders of neutrality. They didn't actively participate in the revolution. They just chilled in their barracks. That's not an 'invasion' force. Can you name a major battle or war between the U.S. and Hawai'i? Nope.  Captain Wiltse of the U.S.S. Boston gave these instructions to Commander Swinburne of the American troops: You will take command of the battalion and land in Honolulu for the purpose of protecting our legation, consulate, and the lives and property of American citizens, and to assist in preserving public order. Great prudence must be exercised by both officers and men, and no action taken that is not fully warranted by the condition of affairs and by the conduct of those who may be inimical to the treaty rights of American citizens. That's not an invasion plan. Did the American soldiers help the insurgents or engage in any firefights? No, there was no violence against American life or property. There was no civil war requiring their intervention. They maintained their neutrality during a crisis and were successful with their peacekeeping mission. President Cleveland asked Congress to investigate alleged U.S. involvement in the revolution. The Senate Committee on Foreign Relations released the Morgan Report, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing doing. After the report was issued, Cleveland withdrew all his support to reinstate the deposed queen, he reestablished diplomatic relations with the Republic of Hawaii and negotiated treaties with them. Now, if you want a REAL U.S. invasion, then you can look at the invasion of Haiti in 1915. And if you want a REAL Hawaiian invasion, then you can look at how Kemahameha invaded the other islands with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes with a 20 year war campaign. JuiceMedia? That video?😁 My friend, that video is full of historical inaccuracies, half-truths and comedic propaganda. Lol
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  1371.  @RuffyDM  The Marquesians were the FIRST aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. Then the Tahitians came, took over all the islands, instituted a feudal caste system and oppressed the maka'āinana with harsh kapu religous law. The chiefdoms fought for centuries over land and power until... Kamehameha waged a 20 year war campaign with 12,000 warriors and 1,000 war canoes to conquer all the island chiefdoms. He STOLE all the āina, mana and wealth for HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. He was a warlord and an imperialist. His aumakua was the god of war, Kū. And wage war he did. There's a very good reason why the island chain is called Hawai'i and the Big Island is also called Hawai'i. ;) The haole have never fought any wars with Hawai'i or the kanaka maoli. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. How are Tibet and Hawai'i the same?😁
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  1373. Not really. Many U.S. politicians and businesses opposed Hawaiian annexation because of competition with American intetests. The U.S. already had significant sugar production from Louisiana, Texas and Cuba. The British and American traders already worked with Native Hawaiians for 30 years before any missionaries arrived to Hawai'i. In 1819, King Kamehameha II abolished the old, ancestral religion, commanded all heiau to be destroyed and terminated the harsh, oppressive kapu religious law six months before the arrival of missionaries. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1380. He skipped over soooo many details. The mo'i, ali'i, konohiki and monarchy weren't innocent anela. They were crooked, too. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1381. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1392.  @winterlilikoi1899  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne. King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action, he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. If Queen Lili'uokalani was willing to user her royalist military to overthrow the existing government, then it's no surprise that the Committee of Safety used the Honolulu Rifles to overthrow her.
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  1393.  @winterlilikoi1899  How did the U.S. use its military to overthrow the monarchy? The U.S.S. Boston landed 162 marines and sailors who were given strict orders of neutrality as peacekeepers to protect American lives and property (in case there was a bloody rebellion). The U.S. troops marched past 'Iolani Palace, saluted the Queen and lowered their flag as a sign of international neutrality. They didn't actively participate in the revolution. They didn't surround the government, patrol any streets, raid any offices, make any demands, engage in combat or give any material aid to the rebels. They just chilled in their barracks and did nothing. That's not ACTIVE involvement. It's very passive and neutral. Captain Wiltse of the U.S.S. Boston gave these instructions to Commander Swinburne of the American troops: You will take command of the battalion and land in Honolulu for the purpose of protecting our legation, consulate, and the lives and property of American citizens, and to assist in preserving public order. Great prudence must be exercised by both officers and men, and no action taken that is not fully warranted by the condition of affairs and by the conduct of those who may be inimical to the treaty rights of American citizens. Both sides (rebels and royalists) provided no statements or evidence that the Americans did anything to actively overthrow the hawaiian queen. By all accounts, they were chilling in their barracks... doing nothing. Meanwhile, the Committee of Safety had 1,100 - 1,600 Honolulu Rifle militiamen who were actively rebelling against a queen who attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. They had raided the local armory and were intent on overthrowing her. Her own countrymen actively overthrew her in a local coup.
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  1394.  @winterlilikoi1899  - The U.S. landed only 162 marines and sailors. That's a small force. They had a PASSIVE influence on the revolution. The Honolulu Rifles consisted of 1,100 - 1,600 militiamen who had raided a local armory. The Hawaiian insurgents were 6-10 times larger than the U.S. side. Historical records show that they were also given strict commands of neutrality. The Hawaiian rebel force was very large and dangerous, on its own. The records show that the U.S. soldiers 1) marched past 'Iolani Palace, 2) saluted the Queen, 3) lowered their flags as a sign of international neutrality, 4) retired to their barracks and 5) did nothing intimidating or threatening That's the historical record. Being there and doing nothing is non-threatening. What exactly was she concerned or threatened by? Oh yeah, she tried to lead her own revolution to overthrow the government, strengthen her power and use her royal military to suppress opposition. That's not a good 'look' for her. The Committee of Safety didn't force her to try and make an illegal and unconstitutional power grab. She gave her political enemies all the rope needed to hang her out to dry. That's on her. - The Honolulu Rifles (who were very well trained) had a militia force of about 1,100 - 1,600 men (who were well supplied and had raided a local armory). That, on the other hand, is a LARGE armed insurgency. Queen Lili'uokalani wouldn't have been able to "easily put down" the rebellion. The royalists had about 950 men, with about a dozen artillery pieces and a gatling gun. Queen Lili'uokalani could've TRIED to defend her government from the revolution. It would've been a bloody battle, for sure. After realizing this, she got cold feet and surrendered. She thought (hoped) President Harrison or her good friend Grover Cleveland (president-elect who would take office in six weeks) would restore her government. Wishful thinking. That was a grave miscalculation. She thought the U.S. would fight her battle. However, it was her responsibility to defend her government, but she didn't. What's more terrifying? 162 non-threatening soldiers? Or 1,100 - 1,600 well armed, angry militiamen who have assembled to overthrow her? Or did Lili'uokalani perceive the Americans as a threat because she DID actually try to overthrow the government and was acting a bit tyrannical??? - Queen Lili'uokalani didn't have to raise an army. She had her royal military, which is different from the Honolulu Rifles. Btw, the Honolulu Rifles were created by the Hawaiian Kingdom. Kalākaua even gave them their name. The Honolulu Rifles turned on the Monarchy when the Kalākaua regime became corrupt and mired in scandals. Lili'uokalani was also very critical of her brother. The Committee of Safety and Lili'uokalani both had sizable forces available to them. - In 1895, Robert Wilcox led a counter-revolution against the new government, but the royalists were defeated. The new government defended it's power and cemented its control over the country. Lili'uokalani was arrested for supporting the counter-revolutionaries. They weren't afraid of fighting at that point. In 1893, Queen Lili'uokalani got cold feet. She wasn't military trained, like Kalākaua, and she wasn't a warrior chief, like Kamehameha. She was soft. She couldn't make the hard decisions to defend her power. After she was overthrown and realized that somebody else wasn't going to magically restore her power, she allowed Wilcox to fight back. (And, btw, Robert Wilcox was extremely critical of Lili'uokalani and Kalākaua before the 1893 revolution - Lol, it's a mess). - All revolutions, by definition, are illegal. Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864 (illegal). The Hawaiian League overthrew the government in 1887 (illegal). Queen Lili'uokalani attempted to overthrow the government in 1893 (illegal). The Committee of Safety overthrew the government in response to Lili'uokalani (illegal). If Lili'uokalani attempted to overthrow the government, do you think her political enemies should've just given her a pass, let her off the hook and let her remain Queen? That would've been a ridiculous move, from their perspective. - I agree, Kalākaua was threatened to sign the 1887 Constitution (many people think he was forced, which is historically wrong). He didn't fight back. He didn't get help from his allies (they told him to yield). Kalākaua gave up and agreed to the League's terms to save his job. That rests squarely on his shoulders. He gave up. The U.S. military didn't actively partake in that revolution either. As you can see, there was social and political turmoil before the Revolution of 1893. And the Hawaiian League had sizable forces to coerce government changes (without U.S. intervention). Queen Lili'uokalani would obviously remember what happened to her brother. After the Revolution of 1887, the Monarchy was even weaker, now that the League had amassed more power and control. She knew that if she fought the Committee of Safety, then she would probably lose and her Monarchy would be done. She wasn't a fighter, so she had to surrender and HOPE that someone else (U.S. President Cleveland, British Minister Wodehouse, Wilcox, or someone else) would save her. Do you actually think that Lili'uokalani believed that she could win IF the U.S. soldiers weren't there? Do you think she would've welcomed a civil war? She wasn't a wartime caliber leader. She didn't like bloodshed and death. Kamehameha would've gone down fighting.
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  1398. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1401. You sure? The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1409.  @Zerpentsa6598  The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1430. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1433. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1434. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1445. This wasn't at all a fair or culturally sensitive summary of mo'olelo hawai'i. There's a great deal of misinformation, historical inaccuracies, half truths and propaganda. Much history has been intentionally omitted. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1447. Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  1451.  @yazuki1185  Yeah, I watched this video. It's full of historical inaccuracies, half truths and propaganda. Queen Lili'uokalani tried an illegal and unconstitutional powergrab. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature, unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893.
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  1455. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1456. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1464.  @winterlilikoi1899  My guy, 'genocide' is a very SERIOUS word. People often misuse it. You're grossly abusing the word 'genocide' with your 'cultural' adjective. Genocide is a serious thing. Part C of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide (1948) states that deliberate actions need to be taken to bring about the physical destruction in whole or in part. There needs to be premeditation with direct intent to destroy a people. The United States did not commit any genocide in Hawai'i. If you want REAL genocide, then you can look at Armenia, Holocaust, Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia, or Darfur. Some people slap adjectives onto genocide, such as 'cultural' genocide, but that's a disrespectful bastardization of the word. You cheapen the word by misusing it. Furthermore, there was no deliberate destruction of the beautiful kanaka culture. There was no deliberate killing of the kanaka - no real genocide. However, the Hawaiian culture was affected by Western social, religious, political, economic and military ideas. Kamehameha had help from Western weapons and advisors when he conquered all the islands. Also, he fought a long war for over a decade to force his enemies to submit to his rule. He conquered the island chiefdoms and stole their land. During the Battle of Nu'uanu, many were slaughtered by cannon fire (huge advantage). Kamehameha and his na ali'i koa forced his enemies off the Pali where they fell to their deaths. In 1898, people found 800 skulls of the Oahu warriors that were killed. Is that not an atrocity? Kamehameha stole the aina and mana of other islanders. Is that not a war crime? Should the international community intervene to restore the eight islands back to their chiefdom glory? Kamehameha was an imperialist who took from others with force and built the Hawaiian Kingdom on sand soaked in kanaka blood. People often selectively choose what parts of history they acknowledge. They're willfully ignorant of the unpleasant parts. The United States incorporate and assimilate the Hawaiian people and culture, which is normal when any two cultures combine. What did King Kamehameha II do? He banned the kapu system and the ancestral religion (six months before the arrival of missionaries). He forbade those practices. He also commanded the destruction of all the heiau. Did a Hawaiian King erase part of their culture? Yes. The kapu system was a terrible system and the kanaka are better off without it. Hawaiian Kings also banned hula (and later revived it). They also transitioned almost all medium schools to english-only, full immersion schools before the overthrow happened. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy to teach its students only in English. It's a huge myth that the Hawaiian language was banned/eradicated by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that highly favored English before the overthrow of the monarchy in 1893. King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1855): "To foster education and widen every channel that leads to knowledge, is one of our most imperative duties... It is of the highest importance, in my opinion, that education in the English language should become more general, for it is my firm conviction that unless my subjects become educated in this tongue, their hope of intellectual progress, and of meeting the foreigners on terms of equality, is a vain one." King Kamehameha IV stated in His Majesty's Speech at the Opening of the Legislature (1856) that he was satisfied with the Board of Education's progress on English instruction "It is particularly gratifying to know that instruction in the English language is prosecuted with so much success among my native subjects. I recommend you to make as liberal a provision for the support of this class of schools as the state of my Treasury will admit." And this Hawaiian Kingdom Policy was very successful in adopting the English language as the main language of education and instruction. 1881: 66% English, 33% Hawaiian 1887: 84% English,16% Hawaiian 1892: 95% English, 5% Hawaiian 1896: 97% English, 3% Hawaiian
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  1465.  @winterlilikoi1899  - Just because somebody coined a phrase 70 years ago, that doesn't mean that the phrase is correct. Genocide is the most serious crime that people can commit against other people. Obviously, we cheapen the word by reducing to to weaker and less heinous definition. We can talk about 'cultural' genocide, 'environmental' genocide, 'occupational' genocide, 'culinary' genocide or any other <insert adjective> genocide you want, but they're all cheaper, lesser versions of a far more real and serious crime. People like to slap the word 'genocide' to artificially inflate the seriousness of their point (similar to how people misuse the word 'rape'). genocide - the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group Now, for sake of argument, let's talk about 'cultural genocide'. Did the U.S. deliberately destroy a large portion of Native Hawaiian culture with the intent of destroying the Native Hawaiian culture? No. It's going to be much harder to prove 'cultural genocide' than it is to prove real genocide. - People want to avoid and deflect from how the Hawaiian Kingdom was created. They like to complain about the 'military invasion, 'occupation' and 'war crimes' that allegedly (and ridiculously) were committed by the United States. The U.S. never conquered Hawai'i. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles led a revolution to overthrow the monarchy. The Revolution of 1893 was a birthday candle compared to Kamehameha's violent, lengthy war campaign. People will complain about U.S. imperialism, but the Hawaiian Kingdom was founded by a warlord and imperialist. Next, people want 'justice' to be given for only certain historical grievance, despite the long chain of wrongs. The Committee of Safety overthrew the monarchy after Queen Lili'uokalani attempted to overthrow the 1887 Constitution, after the Hawaiian League overthrew the 1864 Constitution, after King Kamehameha V overthrew the 1852 Constitution, after Kamehameha I conquered all the island chiefdoms, after the chiefs fought over a hundred years of episodic warfare of āina, mana and wealth, after the Tahitians took control of the islands from the Marquesians who were the aboriginal settlers of Hawai'i. There's a long list of human grievances that stretches across humanity. However, people selectively choose to stop the blame game conveniently before Kamehameha, the Warlord, the Imperialist, the man who used war and violence to create HIS Kingdom of Hawai'i. Kamehameha isn't ancient history. By 1810, he had unified Hawai'i. That's modern history. And it was well documented, especially with regards to the established boundaries, kingdoms and their ruling Mo'i. Lastly, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Throughout Hawaii's history, everyone has played a game of power. Kamehameha, Kamehameha V, the Hawaiian League, Queen Lili'uokalani, and the Committee of Safety all struggled for power, which is human nature. When Kamehameha conquered all the islands and created his Kingdom, he celebrated. When Lili'uokalani was overthrown and lost the monarchy, she lamented. Winners like to win, losers hate to lose. - I didn't contradict myself when I said that the U.S. incorporated and assimilated Hawai'i to create a new culture. assimilate - to absorb into the cultural tradition of a population or group The U.S. had to absorb Hawaiian Culture and vice versa within the Territory. Naturally, the U.S. had to integrate and incorporate the new Territory/State into its social structure (government, economics, etc). However, the U.S. didn't destroy the Hawaiian culture. Did the U.S. destroy the cultures of Italians, Irish, German, Dutch, China, and Japanese? Nope, many were naturally integrated and incorporated into the U.S.
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  1466.  @winterlilikoi1899  - We know a great deal about the general boundaries of the major chiefdoms that existed before Kamehameha conquered all of Hawai'i. By 1810, Kamehameha had 'unified' all of Hawai'i through war, conquest and intimidation. That's recent, modern history. The missionaries arrived in 1819, taught kanaka maoli how to read and write and a great deal of oral history was recorded. Also, we have the journals and records of many westerners, such as Isaac Davis and John Young. We know that, Kahekili ruled O'ahu, Maui, Moloka'i, and Lana'i, and controlled Kaua'i and Ni'ihau via a tributary agreement with his half-brother Ka'eokulani. If we insist upon restoring Hawai'i back to 'righteousness', then why stop at the Hawaiian Kingdom. Many kanaka hated Kamehameha because he CONQUERED them and they lost their āina, mana and wealth; nobody likes to lose. Independence activists like to falsely cry that Hawai'i was stolen by U.S. military invasion and occupation, but they conveniently ignore that the Hawaiian Kingdom was created by a bonified Warlord, Imperialist and Conqueror through War and Violence. They selectively want to stop the chain of 'Justice' at the point that is most advantageous to their political and personal benefit - the Hawaiian Kingdom - while ignoring all of Kamehameha's ill-gotten gains and spoils of war. That's selective justice and moral hypocrisy. Only Japan and its Allies can determine whether China can conquer Japan. Queen Lili'uokalani attempted an illegal power grab, got cold feet, wasn't willing to fight to defend her power and lost control of the country. The Hawaiian Kingdom's allies also weren't willing to fight on their behalf. Politics and power schemes are a dangerous game to play. Lili'uokalani clearly lost. - After Captain Cook visited Hawai'i in 1778, Hawaiian culture began to change due to western influence (economic, education, religious, political and military). For example, Westerners broke kapu several times and they didn't suffer any disastrous punishment by the gods, which made kanaka take kapu less seriously. This (among many other reasons) helped lead to the end of the kapu system. Queen Kaʻahumanu wanted similar social and political privileges for woman as western women, so she convinced her son (King Kamehameha II) to terminate the kapu system.
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  1467.  @winterlilikoi1899  By 1892 (one year before the Revolution of 1893), NINETY FIVE PERCENT (95%) of all schools were English-only, full immersion schools based on the Hawaiian Kingdom's long-term education policy, setup by Hawaiian Kings. This policy made English the primary language of instruction. There was no 'ban' created by the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii or United States. Japanese, Chinese, German, Portuguese and other children were also exclusively taught in English in Hawai'i. The Hawaiian Kingdom enacted an education policy that transitioned from Native Hawaiian medium schools to English-only immersion schools. Many people don't know about (or blatantly ignore) the English initiatives of the King and Legislature. In 1882, the Board of Education implemented a policy where all academic subjects were to be taught only in English and all other languages were discouraged (Kanaka, Japanese, Portuguese, Filipino, etc). They believed that total immersion would lead to quicker English language proficiency. Between 1834-1948, there were over 100 different Hawaiian language newspapers. Furthermore, some Hawaiian newspapers actively opposed the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and the Annexation. There wasn't a public-wide ban of the 'olelo. The 'olelo was not used for formal school instruction (based on Hawaiian Kingdom long-term policy), but the Hawaiian Language was still available as an elective course at the high school level. More importantly, the language wasn't 'banned' in private and other public spaces. If the ohana didn't pass on the 'olelo hawai'i to their keike, then that's on them. Culture and language always starts at home. The Japanese penal contract laborers endured truly harsh social, economic and political conditions and disadvantages. However, they were able to maintain their native language with community support and secondary language schools. Meanwhile, the kanaka voluntarily allowed their language to dwindle for various reasons (more advantageous and beneficial, Hawaiian Kingdom policy, perceived shame of speaking native tongue, embracing Western ideals, modernization, etc). Using English-only, immersion instruction isn't the same as a ban. Encouraging students to speak more English at home isn't the same as a ban. There was no law enacted by the U.S. that actively and directly banned the Native Hawaiian language. It's unsubstantiated propaganda. Historically, there's nothing to back up any real 'ban'.
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  1472.  @redsoil2495  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the 1852 Constitution, unilaterally created his own constitution and strengthened his autocratic powers (removed checks and balances, weakened power sharing and strengthened the king to be more like an absolute monarch), which was unconstitutional and illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne. The Hawaiian Kingdom Constitution of 1864 had income requirements, property requirements and a voter test. It disenfranchised voting rights for many people, especially poor kanaka and asians Article 62: Every male subject of the Kingdom, who shall have paid his taxes, who shall have attained the age of twenty years, and shall have been domiciled in the Kingdom for one year immediately preceding the election; and shall be possessed of Real Property in this Kingdom, to the value over and above all incumbrances of One Hundred and Fifty Dollars of a Lease-hold property on which the rent is Twenty-five Dollars per year --or of an income of not less than Seventy-five Dollars per year , derived from any property or some lawful employment , and shall know how to read and write , if born since the year 1840...
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  1473.  @redsoil2495  King Kalākaua wasn't physically forced to sign the 1887 Constitution. His political enemies threatened to overthrow him if he didn't make political concessions. His political opponents didn't storm Palace 'Iolani and force him to sign a new constitution. Kalākaua had a weak government. He couldn't defend against their intimidation tactics. Instead of directly dealing with his problem via political negotiation/compromise, police response or military action, he asked his international allies (United States, Great Britain, France, Japan, and Portugal) to help him, but they advised that he agree to the terms set by the Hawaiian League. He capitulated. No one physically put a gun to his head or bayonet to his throat. He conceded in order to save his throne. He didn't assert his authority and defend his government. Kalākaua was already a timid ruler and acted like a figurehead before the Revolution of 1887 even happened. Historically, there have been many civil/uncivil protests/riots/rebellions/revolutions that have changed politics, policy and government. The Right to Revolution goes all the way back to John Locke and even earlier. By its nature, every revolution is 'illegal' from the perspective of the side who lost. Kalākaua definitely was compromised by a revolution and made concessions. He gave up power. The Queen and Hui Kālaiʻāina opposed the 1887 Constitution. They wanted to amend it and regain power. They organized a petition for a new constitution. Lili'uokalani claimed that "out of a possible 9500 registered voters, 6500, or two-thirds, had signed these petitions" and she couldn't ignore their request and be "deaf to the voice of the people, which tradition tells us is the voice of God." Unfortunately, the petitions have been lost to history, only a small, incomplete part remains. Queen Lili'uokalani repeatedly tried to ammend the 1887 Constitution, but all her efforts failed. So she tried a very risky and illegal move. She wanted to abrogate the existing constitution, prorogate the legislature, unilaterally make her own, promulgate it via (magical) royal proclamation and defend her revolution with the military. This was very illegal and unconstitutional. And it backfired on her - very badly. She instigated her own overthrow. She used the 'will of the people' as a pretense for a power grab. History repeats itself, but sometimes with different outcomes. The path to hell is paved with good intentions.
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  1477.  @qiqiauclair2894  Hawai'i was never colonized. Kamehameha would never have been able to conquer all the islands without the help of western traders, weapons, tactics, materials, advice, training and support. Hawaiian Kings intentionally integrated western systems (education, religious, political, economic and military) with Hawaiian traditions. The kanaka and haole built the country together and became one ohana, blended by aloha. Who was the first western governor of Hawai'i? Isaac Davis and John Young were valuable advisors who were very instrumental to King Kamehameha's success. The King granted Davis ali'i status, had him marry into his family and made him governor of O'ahu. When Kamehameha left Big Island, Young acted as governor of Hawai'i on his behalf. Young was also the grandfather of Queen Emma. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1484. You don't even know hawaiian history.😉 Politically, the Apology Resolution was intended to help pave the way for federal tribal recognition of the Native Hawaiian people, just like the Native Americans. Legally, it had no effect on any settlement against the United States and didn't alter or modify the purity of land title own by the State of Hawaii. The Apology Bill doesn't support the hawaiian independence activists desire for secession and sovereignty. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the resolution was written with conciliatory and precatory language, not legal language that confers rights or acts as legislation. The Apology Resolution was an opinion statement, not a legal one. If you want federal recognition of the kanaka (similar to the Akaka Bill), then the Apology Bill is an olive branch that can be used to start that process. The Apology Bill doesn't legally support the hawaiian independence movement. The U.S. President, Congress and Military never enacted (or admitted) a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Government. The Apology Bill apoligized for the role that some U.S. citzens and expatriates played in the hawaiian revolution that overthrew the monarchy. Queen Liliuokalani was overthrown by a bloodless and peaceful coup of wealthy and powerful haole, who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects, of the Hawaiian Kingdom. The Morgan Report refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the U.S. military and agents of any wrongdoing since they didn't participate in the overthrow, support the hawaiian insurgents in any way and didn't act aggressively or violently against the monarchy. The Morgan Report was 1,176 pages of public interviews on all sides, with cross-examination and under oath (which the Blount Report did not do). The Apology Resolution is just a 5 page opinion statement full of 'whereas' clauses. It doesn't even remotely come close to refuting the Morgan Report.
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  1492.  @xylonbanda  Johnny Harris is a very liberal, activist journalist who pushes a distorted historical narrative. He's not an honest, objective journalist. Hawaiian history isn't simple, cut-and-dry, black-and-white. It's very complex. Queen Lili'uokalani wasn't overthrown by Jesus, sugar-loving missionaries. The missionaries came in 1819, long before the Revolution of 1893. Captain Cook visited Hawai'i in 1778. Westerners were interacting with native hawaiians for 40 years before any missionaries arrived. In 1819, King Kamehameha II abolished the old, ancestral religion, commanded all heiau to be destroyed, terminated the harsh kapu religious legal system and fought a small war to defend his policies, which all happened six months before the arrival of missionaries. The missionaries didn't overthrow Queen Lili'uokalani. She attempted an illegal and unconstitutional power grab and was, consequently, overthrown by a counter-revolution lead by the Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles (1,100-1,600 local militiamen), who were denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to prorogate the legislature, abrogate the existing constitution, unilaterally create her OWN constitution, strengthen her autocratic power and use the military to defend her revolution (which was highly illegal and unconstitutional). Her political opponents found out about her secret scheme, organized, mobilized and overthrew her with a successful counter-revolution. Johnny IGNORED all this history. The Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles (1,100-1,600 armed militiamen) were all denizens, citizens and royal subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom. It was a local revolution... and not lead by missionaries. He promotes propaganda.
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  1493.  @xylonbanda  Go ahead and Google it. Learn more about Hawaiian history. Don't blindly believe what some youtube 'journalist' reports on a cheesy video. Always independently verify what you read, hear and see. Here's more food for thought. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1497. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch.
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  1507. The revolution of January 17, 1893 was caused by Queen Liliuokalani's attempt to prorogate the legislature,  unilaterally create a new constitution (without the constitutional power to do so), promulgate this new constitution with a sudden declaration (surprise!) and use the military to suppress any opposition to her power grab. On January 14, she was ready to sign and proclaim the new laws. She wrote to Blount that the "members of the diplomatic corps had been invited; also the members of the supreme bench and members of the legislature, besides a committee of the Hui Kalaiaina." She also told Blount that she instructed her guards and military to be ready to suppress any challenge (riots, rebellion, etc) from her opposition: "They assured me they would be ready, and I gave strict injunctions of secrecy." The Queen had been secretly plotting a revolution to overthrow the government and reestablish an absolute monarchy. Then everyone found about her 'secret' plan. Everything went downhill fast for her. People weren't going to curtsy, sit idly and let her smile and wave as she led a revolution. Her opposition mobilized, organized and overthrew her with their own revolution. And the rest is history. Like I said, Queen Lili instigated her own overthrow, despite the advice of her own cabinet and supporters. She was an inexperienced, naive leader who thought she could make sweeping (illegal) changes via royal proclamation. Governor Cleghorn was a royalist, ally and brother-in-law of Queen Liliuokalani. He was angry and disappointed by her plot to overthrow the government and failure to listen to counsel. On January 28, 1893, he wrote "I have never given the Queen anything but good advice. If she had followed my advice, she would have been firm on the throne, and Hawaiian Independence safe, but she has turned out a very stubborn woman and was not satisfied to Reign but wished to Rule." Queen Lili kicked a hornets nest and was stung by her own arrogance. She cost the country its independence. American Minister Stevens was following the instructions of his predecessor, Minister Miller, who received instructions from the Secretary of State of the first President Cleveland Administration. Cleveland was president during the Bayonet Constitution of 1887. Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard sent written instructions to then American Minister George W. Merrill that if another revolution happens in Hawaii, then they must protect American commerce, lives and property. Bayard clearly stated that, "the assistance of the officers of our Government vessels, if found necessary, will therefore be promptly afforded to promote the reign of law and respect for orderly government in Hawaii."After the revolution that lead to the Bayonet Constitution, British Minister Wodehouse requested that the Americans keep a warship docked in Hawaiian port in case another revolution happened. In July 1889, there was a rebellion and Merrill ordered the deployment of marines and sailors to protect Americans. John L. Stevens (had replaced Merrill) and followed those official instructions during the overthrow of 1893. The American soldiers were peacekeepers who didn't participate in any government building raids, patrol the streets, fire any shots or provide any material support to the insurgents. Often, the Americans would land, come ashore and practice military drills (prior to the overthrow). During the 1893 revolution, the soldiers marched past Iolani Palace, lowered their flags to show neutrality and saluted the Queen. These are hardly aggressive actions. The Americans then remained in their bunkers and did absolutely nothing because no violence broke out against American interests. There was no invasion or military occupation. The monarchy was overthrown by a homegrown coup of 1,100-1,600 insurgents (who were citizens and royal subjects), Queen Liliuokalani surrendered and abdicated her power WITHOUT fighting to defend her country from internal, domestic threats, which was her constitutional duty as a monarch. There is no United States or International Law of 1898 that declares a treaty (and only a treaty) can be used for annexation of foreign land. The U.S. has aquired foreign land in many different ways, which shows that joint resolution was part of established customs and norms. ✔ The Republic of Hawaii requested to be annexed by the United States. The Hawaiian legislature unanimously agreed to annexation and passed their Treaty of Annexation. ✔ On the U.S. side, the President wanted annexation, and two-thirds of the Senate AND two-thirds of the House of Representatives voted for annexation by passing the Newlands Resolution. Since both Houses ratified the Resolution with a TWO-THIRDS majority, it exceeds the criteria of Treaty. ✔ The Treaty of Annexation (Hawaii) and the Newlands Resolution (United States) are two documents, related and in agreement with one another with a common intent to bind both parties in a BILATERAL agreement. This met the legal requirement for a mutually, acceptable agreement. Moreover, Hawai'i and the United States abided by this agreement and behaved accordingly. That further reinforces the agreement because it shows common acceptance and practice. They defined the treaty and followed it. ✔ The U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations delivered the Morgan Report on February 26, 1894, which refuted the Blount Report and exonerated the actions of the U.S. military. No other congressional report has refuted this report and concluded that the U.S. government or military enacted a foreign policy to overthrow the Hawaiian Monarchy. ✔ All of the allies and treaty holders of the Hawaiian Kingdom provided de facto, formal and written recognition of the Provisional Government, Republic of Hawaii and Annexation. The international community legitimized every phase of the Kingdom's transition from country to territory to state. ✔ The U.S. has used acts and joint resolutions in lieu of treaties many times (such as the annexation of Texas and Hawai'i, ending of World War I, etc). Please refer to "Acts and Joint Resolutions of Congress as Substitutes for Treaties" (James W. Garner) https://www.jstor.org/stable/2190424 ✔✔✔
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  1508.  @meganitsmehan4907  Kamehameha V overthrew the government in 1864. He prorogated the legislature, abrogated the existing constitution and unilaterally created his own constitution, which was all unconstitutional illegal. Sound familiar? Queen Lili'uokalani tried to do the same thing. She snatched a page from Kam V's playbook. First, she tried to ammend the existing 1887 Constitution, but she repeatedly failed. Her supporters wanted her to do the same as Kamehameha V and just 'proclaim' a new constitution. She drafted the Constitution of 1893, but her Ministers wouldn't sign it because it was illegal and would cause civil unrest (i.e. riots and/or rebellion). Some of her ministers informed her political opponents about her scheme... and the rest is history. The Queen never submitted her Constitution for approval by the Legislature. She just wanted to proclaim the old one was dead and HER new one was the new law of the land, which was very illegal. It was a reckless power grab that cost her the throne. She was later arrested, charged with treason, imprisoned in 'Iolani Palace (luxury suite, Lol) and she was forced to abdicate the throne. She instigated her own overthrow. And the Committee of Safety and Honolulu Rifles overthrew her head over heels.  The Queen admitted to her actions in her book, Hawaii's Story, and she even included an appendix with a copy of her formal, written testimony to Commissioner Blount where she admitted the same. She tried to overthrow the existing government, but failed horribly. The rebels formed a Committee of Safety, asked the United States to protect them, and organized a large local militia to oppose the Queen. The U.S. landed troops under strict orders to protect American lives and property, but they didn't actively participate in the revolution. The Honolulu Rifles raided a an armory and 1,100 - 1,600 armed rebels descended upon the capital, raided the government buildings and took control of the government. The Queen chose to surrender instead of fight. Her plan failed. She played with fire and got burned.  Lili'uokalani's Power Grab The Queen's draft of the 1893 Constitution had the following: - Members of the privy council, notary public, and agents would be able to run for the legislature. This was political double-dipping. For example, the Privy Council consisted of the King's cabinet ministers, who were politically aligned with the King. Queen Lili'uokalani wanted to allow her cabinet ministers to also be able to serve in the Legislature, which increases her political power. Also, it's fundamentally wrong to allow one person to serve in both the executive and legislative branches. - The Queen would be given the power to call meetings of the legislature. Queen Lili'uokalani tried to increase power for the sovereign (herself). - The Queen’s private lands and other property were made inviolable. The Kamehameha dynasty ended with Kamehameha V. Kalākaua and Lili'uokalani were no longer sovereigns with inviolable land and property. - The Queen would sign all bills before they became law. The 1887 constitution allowed the Legislature to repass bills with a two-thirds majority and overcome a sovereign's vetoe. Kalākua's reign was considered corrupt. The Legislative branch was given stronger, conditional approval authority. - Nobles would be appointed by the Queen instead of elected. Obviously, this gives more power to the sovereign because Lili'uokalani can appoint noblemen (instead of a more democratic election). The people would concede more power to the sovereign. - American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote. Voting rights would be taken away from a large demographic group. By 1893, the demographics of Hawai'i were roughly 1/3rd kanaka, 1/3rd westerners and 1/3rd asian. - The Queen would be able to appoint governors of each island for four years. More power for the sovereign. - Article 78 of the 1887 Constitution which required the monarch to perform "with the advice and consent of the Cabinet" was left out. This removed legislative checks-and-balances over the executive branch. If the Queen was proposing minor reforms, then her Constitution of 1893 wouldn't raise any eyebrows. But it wasn't minor. She was upset about the 1887 Constitution just like the westerners were upset about the 1864 Constitution. Queen Lili'uokalani was attempting a major power grab. And, no, the Legislature wasn't ready to pass the new constitution. The Revolution of 1887 had caused a significant power shift. Queen Lili'uokalani kept her plan secret, within her inner circle. She planned on proclaiming (surprise!!!🎉) a new constitution... and she ordered the military to put down any rebellion (that's a power play... and a bit tyrannical). That's a premidated crime. Unfortunately, someone leaked her plan. And the rest is history. Lili'uokalani instigated her own overthrow. Her plan was illegal. Sure, many kanaka would've approved of her power grab and many westerners opposed it. Nevertheless, she overstepped her constitutional powers and suffered the consequences. She's a victim of her own arrogance.
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