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Comments by "American Plague" (@American-Plague) on "How the three centuries of the transatlantic slave trade became ‘the’ slave trade" video.

@MrMegagoldenarms We've been over this before C A: During the time of Ramses II's reign, Egyptians were not black. We know this because Ramses II was not black. We have his body, we have genetic tests, we have physical descriptions of him from living witnesses. Ramses II ruled from 1279-1213 B.C....exactly between the "3000 - 1000BC" timeline you have given when you claim the rulers of Egypt were black and "kings". If this is true, why wasn't Ramses II black? You're constantly spreading lies and you know it.
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@herewardthewoke6333 I have explained this to C A numerous times and sent him sources showing this to be true. I've even gotten him to SOMEWHAT agree to it before. Unfortunately it goes in one ear and out the other and the only thing that sticks is Afrocentric claims, no matter how much evidence there is. You could get in a time machine, take him back in time and show him in real life that they weren't black and C A would concoct some excuse as to how this is. That THESE aren't the REAL pharaohs. The REAL pharaohs did this and that and excuse after excuse.
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I BELIEVE his exact words were "I'll have those n**** voting Democrat for the next 100 years!".
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@LionClanChief "It would be stupid to assume the Germanic and Celtic tribes before the Romans were doing nothing for themselves." Rome was also in Europe in case you have your geography confused with somewhere else.
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@LionClanChief And you all area Afrocentrics mate. Not all black people are like you guys.
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@LionClanChief You didn't ask when Western Civilization began. You asked if UNIVERSITIES would've existed in Europe without outside influence. Wtf are you banging on about?
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@MrMegagoldenarms That's irrelevant. According to the Out of Africa theory, EVERYONE has an ancestor who was black. Therefore, I am black. The argument isn't "Ramses II never in history had a black ancestor.", the argument is that at this time, the pharaohs were absolutely not black. No question about it. We've been through this 100 times. All you do is bang on about white skin not evolving until 6,000 years ago. Again: we aren't talking about 6,000 years ago. We are talking about the time during which Ramses II ruled. By this time, if you are even correct, paler skin had evolved and these people were no longer black, most certainly not the pharaohs. It's just round ad round in circles with you isn't it? It's like the pieces are all there but you can't put them together for some reason.
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@LionClanChief "so piggybacking off them [Romans and Greeks]...". Romans and Greeks were also European. I thought these were exactly the people you're arguing against? Nobody here said "MY DIRECT ANCESTORS [did such and such]!". They said EUROPEANS, a category into which Romans and Greeks fall. So again: I don't follow?
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@sandwormgod4771 No...he's serious. I've been through this again and again and again with him. He's CONSTANTLY on this channel spreading his Afrocentric propaganda.
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@MrMegagoldenarms No. What I said was Ramses II was most definitely not black. This is an absolute fact no matter what professors' "interpretations of paintings" are. We have his body. This is the time period we are concerned with correct? We aren't talking about some time period far in the past behind that. If we do that, we could say that literally ANYONE is black. How does this not compute?
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@LionClanChief And neither one of these cultures are African in the sense of which we are talking, which is to say, sub Saharan. Also, even if they were sub Saharan, I shouldn't have to look it up. You're making the claim. Provide your evidence.
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@lookoutforchris It matters not how much evidence you show C A that Egyptians were not black. He continues constantly spouting his lies anyway. The last "evidence" that he presented to me was "the INTERPRETATIONS of ancient art work" of some woke professors. Their INTERPRETATIONS. Absolutely nothing solid like the genetic evidence presented to him.
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@WreckItRolfe Agreed. At least a book ban/burning makes people curious as to "WHY are these books banned?" and maybe they'll look into it. People simply believe selective editing when it's unknown to them that this has been done.
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@sandwormgod4771 What I don't understand about these pandering liberals is: what good exactly do they think is going to come of this for themselves? It's like digging your own grave all the while pretending that you're planting a tree to help save the planet.
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@LionClanChief Who did educate the Greeks? Please attach sources. I hope it's Africans as that's what is the original point here.
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@LionClanChief I didn't say they were homogenous. I said they were European. There is no question about this and Europeans are who you are arguing against. Every example you gave is a European. What's so hard to understand about THAT?
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@MrMegagoldenarms Ah, yes. Mali and Mansa Musa. As stated in the original comment: Mansa Musa who took 12 THOUSAND slaves with him on hajj. Mali's greatest "building" to date is a 3 story mosque made of mud and wood. It needs to n rebuilt every year after the rainy season. Before Europeans, this "great" building was a single story.
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@oldboygeorge7688 Let's also remember that LBJ was of the Democratic party. The so-called saviors of racial inequality.
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@LionClanChief Yes but your argument is against Europeans. Everyone you just mentioned is European. I don't follow?
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@MrMegagoldenarms The concept of zero wasn't even known until roughly 300A.D., so far as we know, in India, who then exported the idea to the rest of the world. But sub Saharan Africans had advanced mathematics no later than 2,600B.C. (you know, because Egyptians weren't black. We have their actual bodies to prove this. Not interpretations of things.)? Again, source please.
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Ario 2 Thank you! 😎👍 This is news to me. I'll have to research this a little more thoroughly....you know: instead of having a racially based POV like many Afrocentrics here. According to them, we are all "Eurocentric". Odd that I'd be giving credit to India if that were the case.
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Ario 2 So I guess what I meant was the use and concept of zero as meaning nothing, not as a place holder, which gave us the decimal system. However, one thing is for certain: sub Saharans did not invent either "form".
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@MrMegagoldenarms Egypt is indeed in Africa but that isn't your argument, is it? Your argument is that blacks (sub Saharans) invented everything. Since Egyptians weren't black your "argument" is false and has been since day 1.
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Ario 2 That isn't how I understood it, however, I quickly looked at it. I'll give it more study however. In any case, thank you and I think we can agree in 2 things: 1) were I out to argue that Europeans did EVERYTHING (some Afrocentrics' views here), I wouldn't be giving credit to Indians. 2) Africans sure as hell didn't invent the concept of zero (or mathematics period).
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Brass Balls Blacks have already said they were the first in space during the Space Race, and Russia and the U.S. were jealous of their space program and were sending spies to steal information. Supposedly, Africans tied ropes to really tall trees and slowly swing higher and higher until they went out of Earth's atmosphere. I'm not even making this up. Search "Zambian space program".
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@MrMegagoldenarms "This is science, not an interpretation." says the guy who was basing his last "argument" on interpretations.
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@MrMegagoldenarms "Writing, mathematics and science came thousands of years in Africa before mainland Europe.". Really? Mathematics came THOUSANDS of years to sub Saharan Africa (because Egyptians weren't black) before 300B.C. (before Euclid, a Greek, which is on mainland Europe [the guy who invented GEOMETRY...very basic math] even died)? And science THOUSANDS of years before roughly 600B.C. [before Thales, another Greek from mainland Europe) the father of science)? I'll have to see a source for that please.
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@MrMegagoldenarms For some people who had knowledge of advanced science, writing and mathematics beginning NO LATER THAN roughly 2,600 B.C. (as 2,000 is the smallest increment of years we can have in thousands and it still be plural.), possibly even THOUSANDS of years before this, you sure didn't do much with it. (Yes...I know: you think the Egyptians were black. But as I and others have shown you numerous times and presented undeniable evidence for, they absolutely were not.). Weird that South of the Sahara absolutely NOTHING was done. That's a HUGE chunk of land with LOTS of people for NOTHING to be accomplished by such advanced people. It's almost like there was some...genetic differences south of the Sahara or something. You don't find that odd? That everyone is telling you Egyptians/Northern Africans weren't black and that's the ONLY area of Africa that ever accomplished anything? Why exactly didn't anyone south of the Sahara accomplish anything THOUSANDS of years before 600B.C. if they were so advanced?
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Ario 2 Can you send me a link? I'd like to read more about this. I would've sworn Indians "invented" zero.
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@MrMegagoldenarms Ah, yes...the Songhai Empire...which existed between the 15th and 16th centuries. Again: not existing until Europeans arrived. Wanna try again?
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N word Isn't it funny how their original arguments are about how black people invented this and that but later they try to shift the argument that Egypt was/is in Africa and Egyptians did some advanced things, even though Egyptians weren't black, as if that's anything to do with the subject at hand? It's like debating a 5 year old who's throwing a tantrum: there's no logic. "We wuz kangz n sheeit....but den witey stoled it! An u nose dat!".
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@MrMegagoldenarms "The Danube civilization in Europe was more advanced than Egypt?". Egyptians weren't black.
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@MrMegagoldenarms According to science, yes. Therefore I'm black. So what are you banging on about?
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@MrMegagoldenarms Hell...by your standards, white supremacists and Eurocentrics are also black as they had black ancestors. So what's the problem? What do you keep whining about?
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@MrMegagoldenarms Also: since the ancestors of lions, cheetahs and leopards came from Asia into Africa before lions, cheetahs or leopards evolved, are you suggesting that Africa is not the ancestral homeland of lions, cheetahs or leopards?
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Ario 2 Idk why you're "arguing" with me (arguing is probably a strong word). I'm am using this example (because this is what he believes to be true) to point out the contradictory idiocy in this Afrocentric's "argument". You should probably be correcting him, as it appears that you and I are in agreement on this entire topic.
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Ario 2 What do you consider "very recent"? Also, why do you continue arguing with me when we agree on the main subject at hand here? My point being was that depending on who's telling/interpreting the story, the story changes. This doesn't make the story/interpretation true, as Jesus couldn't have been Asian, black and white all at once (if he even existed at all). It had nothing to do with the age of the depictions. Do you have an argument against that or do we agree?
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@MrMegagoldenarms Well sir? According to you, if anyone has one, single, black ancestor, then they too are black. Combine that with the out of Africa theory, and LITERALLY EVERYONE ON EARTH is black. So what exactly is your argument about any of this since there's only one black race that we're all a part of anyway?
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@DfromBoston It's not CERTAIN he said exactly this (although it's not unlikely either), however, here are numerous other racial comments he made: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-voting-democratic/
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How do you know this part was left out? Have you read it in it's entirety?
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@rolanddeschain965 Have you seen the one with Suzanne Malveaux? https://youtu.be/Da1tHL05LxU
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@rolanddeschain965 I didn't realize your name! ALL HAIL Roland Deschain of Gilead! Protege of the mighty Cort! Thankee sai [taps throat 3 times], for your are my hero!
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N word Ok but I'm not the one making this claim. C A is. Go tell him that.
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@LionClanChief It was in ruin because it was made of mud and wood.
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@MrMegagoldenarms You keep saying that lighter skin doesn't evolve until 6,000 years ago. Evolve from what exactly? Blacks? If that's true, then whites are descended directly from blacks and are also as validlythe original inhabitants of the planet. If not blacks, what exactly six they evolve from? Your claim makes absolutely no sense.
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@LionClanChief Nope. Sorry. Made of mud. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Djenn%C3%A9 And there were plenty of people praying outside (because of the overwhelming stench of bird feces) but too lazy to do anything to fix it. Surely this decline didn't cause a shortage of mud did it? It was repaired when the French came.
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@LionClanChief It's odd that for some people who made the highest quality steel ever in history, they'd continue building things out of mud and wood.
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@MrMegagoldenarms Source please.
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@mdaniel5384 Makes a lot more sense than C A's horse shit excuse that "they don't know where white people came from" but they evolved from something.
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@MrMegagoldenarms I want an explanation how they know when white skin evolved and how they know it even evolved at all if they have no idea who it evolved from. SOURCE PLEASE!
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@MrMegagoldenarms "article....blah blah blah". Afrocentric claims mean nothing to me. Link your source please!
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@MrMegagoldenarms I'm guessing this is some Afrocentric article with no real scientific validity whatsoever? Kind of like the INTERPRETATIONS of paintings being more valid than genetic evidence? I want to read this article and see the who is the author. Link please!
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@MrMegagoldenarms Uh huh. So I'm supposed to just take your word for it? I don't think so. Source please!
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@LionClanChief Because of decline it wasn't maintained? Decline of what? Plenty of people were there praying outside. They couldn't maintain it?
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@LionClanChief What YOU say means nothing. Source please.
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@MrMegagoldenarms The family classification of Felidae originated in Asia and migrated from there into Africa, where the original cats then evolved into lions, cheetahs and leopards. Are you saying then that Africa is not the original ancestral home to lions, cheetahs and leopards?
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@LionClanChief You're the one making the claim. I shouldn't have to spend all day researching to fact check your claim. Simply provide your sources. It's not difficult. You never have had any issues endlessly commenting about how great blacks are. Now providing your sources is too difficult? Lmao.
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@LionClanChief So it WAS made of mud, correct? "😂"
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@LionClanChief Also, when you present sources, I'd like to see them for myself. You can SAY the sources say whatever you want. That doesn't mean it's true. I suspect you didn't follow along with the entire point of this video?
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@LionClanChief When you said this: Me: "....[the mosque] was made of mud and wood." You: "..."The mosque in Mali is even the original so what are you talking about? ...we don't know so your claim is nonsense."
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@LionClanChief You to Ario2: "I don't see no link.". Yeah. I don't "see no link" to anything you've said either. You mean you don't just take peoples' word for fact? Why not?
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@MrMegagoldenarms So is Africa not the ancestral homeland of lions, cheetahs and leopards? You seem to not want to answer for some reason. WEIRD!
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@LionClanChief "Many had studied many years [in Egypt], to return to Greece as the 'first philosophers'.". That's great but the Egyptians weren't black either. Here's your source (see how easy this is?): https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-05-31/who-were-the-ancient-egyptians/8572076
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@LionClanChief You didn't give me one single source. It's pretty simple: instead of supposedly quoting it, just attach the link like I did. Not to mention I did debunk it. Your original argument was that we don't know what the original mosque was made of because it fell into disrepair. Your "source" clearly says it was made of mud.
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@MrMegagoldenarms So where's your GENETIC EVIDENCE (NOT INTERPRETATIONS) that ANY of them were black? Do you have any? Again: depictions and interpretations are not evidence. In China, there are DEPICTIONS of Jesus as being Asian. In Europe, there are DEPICTIONS of Jesus as being white. In Africa, there are DEPICTIONS of Jesus being black. He can't be all 3 can he? However, I suspect you'd only accept the black depiction. Correct? Not to mention, Ramses II also DEFINITELY wasn't black and comes from a completely different region. More genetic evidence stacked against the Afrocentric claims.
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@MrMegagoldenarms Also: are you saying Africa is not the ancestral homeland to lions, cheetahs and leopards?
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@MrMegagoldenarms Your INTERPRETATIONS are not scientific evidence or any evidence at all. How many generations removed from Ramses II was this "Charleston Man"? Because, as I already stated: If we are using ancestors as "evidence" as opposed to the people we are actually talking about, that completely contradicts your "argument" that Europe isn't the ancestral homeland of whites, since their ancestors supposedly came from Africa. I also saw no link to any article. It's not my job to research everything you say. It's YOUR job to back up your claims by presenting evidence, not just supposedly quoting it.
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@MrMegagoldenarms And this lineage "goes BACK to Ramses III"? That's great and all, but 3 comes after 2. We are talking about Ramses II.
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@MrMegagoldenarms Furthermore, you sure seem to rely on subjective INTERPRETATIONS a lot as opposed to OBJECTIVE scientific fact. I have already pointed out the folly in using INTERPRETATIONS as "evidence" with my example of INTERPRETATIONS of how Jesus supposedly looked. Also: are you saying that Africa is not the ancestral homeland to lions, cheetahs or leopards, since they evolved in Africa from their ancestors, which weren't yet lions, cheetahs or leopards, which originally came from Asia?
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@MrMegagoldenarms So because someone is black, their great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather must've been black too? Hence my question you fucking idiot: how many generations removed were they? Because your INTERPRETATIONS and guesses mean about jack shit.
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@MrMegagoldenarms Also, are you saying that Africa isn't the ancestral homeland of lions, cheetahs or leopards since when they came from Asia they weren't lions, cheetahs or leopards yet? I will continue asking until you answer or get tired of hearing it and shut up finally. Your refusal to answer shows your blatant dishonesty.
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@MrMegagoldenarms This woman is CERTAINLY black because she had a black ancestor. Do you agree? Because this is the exact same argument you are using for Ramses II. You agree she's black, right? https://www.thepilot.com/news/features/unexpected-family-ancestry-dna-tests-make-surprising-connection/article_07d5250a-4dbf-11ea-a0b6-37dc90de369a.html
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@MrMegagoldenarms "So if your lineage goes back to Europe, does this mean you aren't related to them?". Nobody is arguing Ramses II was or wasn't RELATED TO a black man (how far removed, who knows? You refuse to answer.). The argument (it's not really an argument as it's been proven as fact) is that Ramses HIMSELF isn't black. Jesus! Talk about mental gymnastics!
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@MrMegagoldenarms According to out of Africa theory, EVERYONE is related to blacks because we all originally came from Africa. Therefore, according to your standards and based on the out of Africa theory, I'm black. As is everyone else on Earth, because we ALL have black ancestors. So I don't really understand your arguments and frustration to begin with?
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@MrMegagoldenarms Great. SOURCE PLEASE!
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@MrMegagoldenarms I also asked a question: If having any bit of "black DNA" males you black, then is the woman in the picture from the last link I sent you considered black? Because she has "black DNA". If not, exactly how much "black DNA" do you need to be considered black?
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@MrMegagoldenarms Funny how you totally ignore certain questions when the answer either would prove you wrong or contradict your previous claim[s].
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