Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "Why I Typically Say "Merry Christmas" as a Nonchristian" video.

I think Christmas is cultural, not "civic."
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@_XR40_ Horseshit. Just because a culture/religion adopts the tradition of another does NOT make that tradition "independent" of the culture/religion the tradition originated with. Christmastide is the Germanic winter festival of Yuletide after it underwent Christian reformulation. Santa Claus is Odin. His sleigh/reindeer is Odin's grey horse Sleipnir. The Christmas tree is the Yule tree. The Christmas ham is the Yule boar. The reason Japan celebrates Christmas is because of Western/European cultural influence.
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@_XR40_ Because Japan adopted a European cultural tradition.
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@stephj9378 Not really. Styx is just always trying to get his flock to view things through his inane civic/liberal lens. Christmas has nothing to do with citizenship or civic duty or liberal values. It is a Western/European cultural tradition, plain and simply, and it could even be said it is originally ethnic in origin. Lots of American Blacks understand the link between Christmas, European/Christian culture, and the European race, which is why they created their own ethnic/secular holiday in Kwanzaa.
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JblueT There is obviously a positive correlation between multiculturalism, secularism, and atheism. You will just never get some right-wing atheists to admit it because it is an uncomfortable truth. The nations where attempts to undermine Christmas are the most common are the most irreligious secularized Western nations that are also the most multicultural and "inclusive." Leftists want to sacrifice Western traditions to be "inclusive" of foreign traditions, but the reason is not because they want to make foreign groups feel included, it is because they want to destroy White people, our nations, and everything that is associated with us. Christmas is a European cultural tradition which is intrinsically linked to Europe and its indigenous people. Therefore they want to destroy it.
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@dwanareese1774 Leftists only hate Christmas because it is associated with Western culture and the stewards of Western culture are racial Europeans. Their anti-Christmas "inclusivity" bullshit is just thinly veiled anti-Whiteness.
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@dwanareese1774 Well, you don't need to be White to know the truth when you see it. :)
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@dwanareese1774 I am also strongly opposed to race-based hatred as well as collectively assigning blame/guilt to an entire race in an effort to demonize them (or to prime them to be weakened and destroyed). I do believe in a lot of things that many people on both sides of the aisle characterize as racist, but I suspect they portray my views in this manner for the expediency of their own political narrative. I also agree that the philosophies which serve as a bedrock for modern leftism are racist: intentionally anti-white and patronizing to nonwhites. The Left needs nonwhites to be their tools (useful idiots) that they can use to destroy European civilization. They can only do this if they convince nonwhites they lack agency and are being oppressed by Whites.
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@too_short_cortetm8507 Christmas is not even mentioned in the Bible. It is a native European midwinter festival that underwent Christian reformulation to become a celebration of the birth of Christ. Therefore, you do not even need to believe in Christ to celebrate and enjoy it. It is a time to feast and enjoy your family and practice tradition.
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@pm5206 Yeah, I think you're largely correct but as I said, it has become more of a cultural practice than a religious one, making it not totally contradict the idea of civic secularism. It originated as a pagan celebration that was not entirely religious either. My guess is that the main reason Christmas is a federal holiday is a pragmatic one. About 90% of the country celebrates Christmas and moreover, it is not always on a weekend, like Easter is. Holidays like Samhein or Independence Day are usually not as important to the average American, there is less in involved in the celebration and preparation, and the morning is not of any particular significance.
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@dwanareese1774 The only fate is what we make. If we wish them to be vanquished, it is up to us to ensure it happens. :)
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@penhullwolf5070 God Jul and thank you.
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@pm5206 I get your point, I just don't agree. Christmas is cultural. Most people don't even go to church on Christmas Eve or Christmas. It's historic origins doesn't change the fact that it's part of the Western cultural tradition. I'm a pagan, but I don't have a problem with it being a federal holiday because I don't think that it's solely a religious tradition.
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@Aus Tronaut God Jul brother.
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@pm5206 Yes, if those holidays indeed can still be considered exclusively religious in nature, which I would argue they cannot. They have become something that transcends religion and even culture, even though they are based upon religious and cultural traditions. Still, Passover is not a holiday that 90% of the country celebrates. The ]ews are a tiny minority in this country just as they were throughout their history being harbored in Christian countries in Europe. Any theoretical demand they made to make Passover a federal holiday would not be pragmatic and would constitute little more than crybullying. 90% of people celebrate Christmas because it is more cultural today than it is religious. We come from a European/Western cultural tradition, of which both Christian and the old native European religious traditions are a part. If you have a problem with that, perhaps you would feel more comfortable in Israel, where Passover is observed by most of the population and is a federal holiday. I am not saying that to be rude, btw.
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