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Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "White People are Indigenous In Most of North America- Here is Why" video.
Forensic anthropologists said that Kennewick Man's bones resembled those of the Jomon people, who were the aboriginal inhabitants of Japan and the closest ancestors of the Ainu people. The Jomon were not Caucasian, although they had features that resemble Caucasoids more than other East Asian populations. Genetic evidence later confirmed that his haplogroup was not a common European one. He is more closely related to East Asians and Native Americans.
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@lapinlogic6267 Yeah the Kangz are deluded, but I see a lot of the same type of things coming from White Americans these days. It makes me cringe that they can't see they are basically the white version of a Kang, and I'm an eth-nat. Don't get me wrong, I don't completely discredit every alt theory or pretend like the academic consensus is unquestionable, but I think Styx and people like him have a vested interest in believing theories which give them indigenous claim to their country, even if said theories are baseless or relatively flimsy. What they don't realize it that by pushing such theories and positions, they're subverting the indigeneity of Europeans in Europe and therefore their moral right to protect and preserve European bio-culture in Europe. I agree with you though, that different human population groups likely evolved from various hominid species or subspecies. I just question everything. What is known for sure is that different populations have varying levels of ancient admixture. Africans have admixture from a species that diverged from Homo Sapiens 4.5 million years ago. Basically early Homo Sapiens in Africa bred with creatures that were pretty much bipedal monkeys like Australopithecus.
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The Solutrean Hypothesis (I noticed most people on these threads don't even know how to spell it properly) is pretty much as baseless as the speculations that the Olmec were of African origin because their carvings had traditional Congoid characteristics and some of their writing scripts resembled some in Africa.
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@lapinlogic6267 I didn't say anything about the OOAT. Black Nats think that the Olmec were the ancestors of seafaring African Kangz who landed in Brazil or some nonsensical BS like that. On Rudapithecus: how do you know that this species of hominid was the ancestor of Europeans or even evolved into a human at all?
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@iamnotanumberiamafreeman2021 He isn't right. He's deluding himself. If they have no claim to the land, then the English and Swedish and Poles have no claim to theirs. It's an infantile and selfish argument that effectively subverts the indigeneity of all nations everywhere on Earth. We didn't steal this land, we conquered it and built a civilization here which didn't exist before. That is our claim to this land. But to say we're indigenous is a selfish lie. And that's why you see all these Snow Kangz coming out of the woodworks lying about Europeans being here before the Natives. It's pathetic.
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I don't agree with Styx here at all. Subverting the idea of indigeneity just because you hate leftist hypocrisy will totally screw Europe over. Styx is stuck in a civcvck mindset wherein race and ethnicity is totally divorced from nationality and indigeneity.
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So... We wuz Kangz?
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He's full of shit dude. These people are so insecure and resentful that they aren't indigenous to their home country that they delude themselves into believing a bunch of pseudo theories as a neurotic defense mechanism. If you're native to whatever country you were born in, then a Black African who was born in England is "indigenous" to England. This is a globalist perspective because civic nationalism is not nationalism. It's just watered down American globalism.
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@brucemaximus3797 Yeah. But how long? And what of the Natives who descend from the pre-Euro culture here? It's a topic fraught with subjection and logical pitfalls. I tend to go by the obvious conclusions and not overthink it too much, despite the Left's BS.
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@malalalalala2985 I'm an ethno-nationalist and I think you're right. Most alt-light types delude themselves into believing a bunch of pseudo-historical and pseudo-archaeological lies because they feel insecure and angry about the fact that they are not indigenous to their own country. American Afrocentric types do the exact same thing. I claim my stake to this land because my ancestors conquered it and build the civilization that exists here today. I do not claim to be indigenous. I am European. If indigeneity around the world is subverted, American globalism has won and it gives non-Europeans the ability to claim indigeneity in Europe.
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@BarefootSamuraiX A commonly known fact, and irrelevant one to this conversation. And I don't know anybody who would call the peoples that live in the Caucasus Mountains "Black." That is ridiculous.
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@lenfranz1424 Inane comment. Fucking anti-white globalist shitstain.
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@lenfranz1424 That term basically means anyone who criticizes a ]evv, no matter how warranted. So in the deceptive contrived modern parlance, absolutely.
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@lenfranz1424 But I don't hate anyone simply for their ethnicity. I only hate people for their actions.
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@lenfranz1424 Morally conflating ownership of land with ownership of a human being is totally moronic and irrational. If you don't believe in private property rights, no one is stopping you from living at some hippie commune. I would bet the sum of your moralizing is phony though. You probably own land yourself. Or you're just a resentful, bitter loser, like the vast majority of communists.
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@lenfranz1424 Lol. Shit and manure are synonymous; one doesn't become the other you halfwit. And shit is also poison when it enters the human body and mind, similar to your rhetoric.
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@lenfranz1424 The lifelong underachieving tenet. How pathetic. No wonder you endorse some communistic land tenure ideal under the guise of naturalism. I'll bet you're like a painfully sad archetype of a deluded leftist boomer who thinks indigenous people lived in a naturalistic utopia with no concept of land ownership. Lol
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@lenfranz1424 I have no fear of your petty curses, but wishing ill of someone's loved ones is far more uncivilized than simple insults. You say we see the world differently. That is true. I see the world for what it is, whereas you see it for what you wish it would be. I have no respect for the idealist. Especially those who are too arrogant to admit their vision is just that: a vision, not the reality of humanity and/or the natural world. Nature is competition. Dominance. Division. Territory. Hierarchy. That is the natural state. You speak of imaginary lines as if the natural state is some utopia absent any of these things. You're deceiving yourself.
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@lenfranz1424 I own my land and improvements and I am exempt from property tax because I was shot and almost killed while in combat. I don't feel sorry for myself or seek pity though, as you clearly do for your misfortunes. Nor do I attempt to make it part of my identity. In all honesty, I enjoyed the rawness of combat and don't regret anything, including dispatching my opponents. Combat is the ultimate competition. Some days, while I am enveloped in the minutia of daily life, I long for it. I suppose I guessed correctly that your ideals were inspired by the indigenous American "noble savage" mythos, which is an entirely European contrivance. I hate to break it to you, but indigenous Americans had a strong and indelible sense of land tenure and national/tribal territory. They committed all manners of barbarity against other tribes to win the right to land usage. If you wish to harm yourself, that is your own prerogative. Do you even attempt to manipulate me by assigning me with your own agency in that regard. It will not work.
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How about this. If you use his logic, then anyone not of European ancestry who is born in a European country is a not only a European, they are indigenous to Europe. Styx's position on this is a globalist one. He is so insecure and resentful that he isn't indigenous to America that he's deluded himself into believing a bunch of pseudo theories. All of it is just a neurotic defense mechanism.
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@brucemaximus3797 Seems like everyone has their own subjective interpretation to me. I would say whatever general ancestral population has existed somewhere for the longest is that region's indigenous population. The Norse are not indigenous to Greenland, the Inuit are. The Norse are indigenous to Iceland because there was no population there before them that still exists today. I think most Euro Americans who try to subvert the indigeneity of Native Americans are being cognitively dissonant and are inadvertently subverting the moral claim that indigenous Europeans have to their nations. You can't say Europeans are indigenous to America and Blacks born in Europe aren't indigenous to Europe. That is just as hypocritical as anti-white leftist narratives. Can't have it both ways.
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@brucemaximus3797 Yes. Iceland was never inhabited to my knowledge. But yeah, if you go all the way to the logical end of the conventional argument, all humans are indigenous to Africa. I don't find much merit in an argument about non-humans. Lol but I still think Whites aren't indigenous to America, because if we make that argument, we can't say we're indigenous to Europe. European indigeneity must be protected. The White claim to the colonies is that our ancestors created and maintained the civilization that now exists here, not that we're indigenous here.
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Afrocentrics believe that they are the true Native Americans. I see a lot of similarities when I see Euro Americans talking about the Solutrean Hypothesis.
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@deangullberry5148 I have found no credible source that confirms the genetic tests on the Windover bog skeletons. But the Luzia Woman is older than the Windover skeletons and much further south, and her DNA has been confirmed to be closer to Amerindian populations.
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@deangullberry5148 Also, the Luzia Woman was not Australoid. That was only the conclusion of forensic anthropologists. The genetic studies confirmed she was Amerindian. Also, the skeleton found at Anzick was older than the Windover skeletons and was Amerindian.
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@deangullberry5148 Officially recognized by who? There are several skeletons found in North America that are older than the Windover bog bodies. I mentioned only one. The other I mentioned was found in South America. You can't just dismiss whatever examples that don't conform to your narrative and bias; it's intellectually dishonest. I've found nothing about the haplogroup of the Windover bodies or the amount of tests that revealed an X mitochondrial haplogroup.
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@deangullberry5148 It seems like you were selectively dismissing genetic analyses which don't support your narrative under the false pretense that those studies do not meet some threshold of methodological accuracy. All I said is that I can't find any study that claims the Windover bog bodies have been genetically confirmed to be Europeans or had European haplogroups. So please provide that link (to that Smithsonian researcher addressing the Nobel society). If it exists, that is. Also, what makes a forensic archaeology lab "globally recogonized?" What organization or society deems them as such?
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@headfullofacid8088 You kind of sound like the Euro version of a Black Hebrew Israelite.
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