Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "Ancient Socialist Robert Mugabe Imprisoned by Military of Zimbabwe" video.
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@Hanora Brennan: Northern Nigeria used to be its own country. The thing about Africa and Africans is that there are about 2000 different ethnic groups in Africa, maybe more. Probably close to the same amount of languages. So really, they are too tribal and primitive to establish nation states. The continent has not progressed to the point to where there are a reasonable amount of powerful and populous ethnic groups that could form nation-states and not deal with perpetual ethnic division and tribal warfare. Still, Africa would be even more fucked today had Europeans not modernized their societies. Without Western technological appropriations, Africa would be even more primitive than it is today. Not to mention, Whites are not the only group that pillaged and enslaved Africans. Arabs enslaved 5 million more Blacks than Whites did, and castrated the majority of male slaves. The Arab slave trade of Bantu peoples predated the Transatlantic slave trade by over 700 years, and postdated it by almost 100. Slavery was not abolished in Saudi Arabia until 1962. And the Omanis, who were responsible for much of the Arab slave trade in the Swahili regions like Zanzibar, did not abolish slavery in Oman until 1970. They only did so under pressure from Western powers and the UN. Western Whites were instrumental in abolishing slavery. Without Whites, slavery would still exist today en masse in Africa and the Middle East.
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@ Hunter Zolomon: Many first-world historically White countries are not only multicultural, but have official government policies of multiculturalism. Canada, the U.S., Australia, and Western European countries have hundreds of different ethnic groups living within them, and they aren't just multiethnic, they are multiracial, unlike Nigeria, which adds another complexity and general social divide. I knew that Nigeria has over 200 ethnic groups, believe it or not, but I would wager the majority of people don't. I know religion plays a major role in societal unity as well, but there are places that Muslims and Christians co-exist without rampant and never-ending violence, mostly in Southeast Asia, but I see where you're coming from. Most Oriental Muslims aren't as radical and violent and don't subscribe to such a literalist form of Islam, like Boko Haram. I agree with your assessment of Europe's ethnic history and the difference between Europe and Africa. The countries there are artificial, just as many are in the Middle East. The responsibility for this lies with Western powers. The thing that's insane to me is that the same people that are criticizing the West's mistake in not creating ethno-states in Africa and the Middle East are the same people that think the West has a responsibility to inundate what were White ethno states with millions of non-White and vastly disparate (and many times incompatible) cultures as some kind of repentance. The thing is, if a person fundamentally supports the concept of ethno-nationalism as the only way forward, then it shouldn't matter what nation we're talking about, it should be applied everywhere, regardless of history. That would include your country, and all ethnically non-British people should go back to their ethnic ancestral homelands.
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@Hunter Zolomon: Both Africa and Yugoslavia, and socially divided multiracial/multicultural Western states are perfect examples of why multiracialism, multiculturalism, etc. does not work. Humans need to realize that there are thousands of different kinds of people in the world and they can survive independently in their own ethno-states in relative harmony without hating each other or treating each other like animals. When you try to force different groups together, as Europeans did in Africa, things go to shit. I think when Europeans were laying the groundwork for what would become African nation-states, they looked at the African population and saw people that mostly looked the same, and they didn't consider how diverse the population was culturally and ethnically. But you really can't criticize what the Europeans did in Africa as fundamentally wrong and simultaneously support multiracialism and multiculturalism in historically Western countries, because the principle is the same. If you think hundreds of different ethnic groups should be able to co-exist peaceably in a Western country, you should believe the same to be true of African countries, regardless of if Europeans or Africans drew up borders of the nation-states.
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That is true. However, the United States was founded on White Nationalism and was essentially a racial state as far as citizenship was concerned for the first 80 or so years of its existence. The Naturalization Act of 1790 limited naturalization of immigrants to "free White persons of good character." Up until 1920, the U.S. was 90% European White, but not an ethno-state. In a modern context American Whites could be considered an ethnic group, as American Whites are 99 times out of 100 are mixed ethnicities and identify by race, not ethnicity. People look at places like Qatar in the Middle East and laud them for being multicultural, but what they don't realize is that while Qatar is majority non-Arabs, only 12% of the population (313,000 people) are citizens and they're all Qatari Arab. This is why places like Qatar are ethno-states, but in a cryptic way. South Africa would not be an ethno-state because it was not ruled by the ethnic majority, but a White minority, just as the Latin American countries were. The Spanish "casta" was the racial caste system that placed the most European peoples as the ruling social class and various mixed raced peoples on various social hierarchical levels. https://nativeheritageproject.com/2013/06/15/las-castas-spanish-racial-classifications/
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