Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "Kim Jong Un Threatens US with "Nuclear Button"... Trump Responds in Kind" video.
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@Joss Fitzsimmons:
I think you should research the Korean War.
North Korea invaded South Korea with the backing of China and the Soviets. It was an act of communist imperialism and aggression, if anything.
Even if you are anti-war and anti-intervention like I am, being an apologist for the DPRK is anti-American, anti-liberty, anti-humanity, pro-communism, pro-dictatorship, pro-totalitarianism etc.
The war never ended. There is no treaty, only a ceasefire. Of course we sanctioned them: we are at war with them and they are a brutal communist totalitarian dictatorship. Why the fuck would we make things easy for them in any way?
As far as threatening them, they are the ones that have threatened to use nuclear weapons. No American leader (including Trump) has suggested or threatened a preemptive nuclear strike, only retaliatory strikes.
This conflict, unlike most others of the post-WW2 era, was/is not proxy warfare and warmongering. It was/is the defense of a sovereign nation from communist expansion and aggression.
I still don't think the U.S. should be the ones to take them out. An East Asian coalition could defeat the North Koreans. The subsequent occupation would be more successful and any insurrections would be much less violent if Asian soldiers were occupying the country.
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Joss Fitzsimons
Ad hominem attack at the beginning ruled out any chance that I'll take your question or any further exchange we have seriously. But, I'll entertain you anyhow.
No, for 35 years (1910-1945), there was a regional foreign country occupying Korea: the Japanese. The Korean government operated in exile from China during that period. When the U.S. defeated the Empire of Japan, Korea was liberated to ethnic Koreans, the vast majority of whom lived in the South and opposed communism. But the Soviets wanted their take in the peace negotiations, and the U.S. had to play ball. That's the only reason a unified non-communist Korean state does not exist, because the Soviets negotiated it. The U.S. occupying South Korea was a direct result of that: they knew that it was only a matter of time before the Chinese and Soviets tried to invade and subjugate the entire Korean population, and sure enough that's exactly what they did only 5 years later. The majority of the "North Korean" forces that fought against the U.S. and South Korea were Chinese nationals dressed up in North Korean uniforms. The North Koreans didn't even support communism enough to fight for it in large numbers. There was no communist insurgency in South Korea either, as there was in Vietnam (a country whose majority WANTED to be communist).
The United States is the reason both Koreas are sovereign nations today. They would be controlled by other regional powers, probably Japan or China, otherwise. Koreans still hate the Japanese to this day for invading them and occupying them for those 35 years.
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