Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "Trump or Desantis? 2024 Election Musings" video.

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  3. ​ @jamesbuchanan3145  I don't think a second Trump campaign would necessarily lead to a hard reset, not in an immediate, direct sense anyways. It'll just lead to more admin state meddling, mass fraud, unconstitutional legislation, and power grabs that will make it that much more difficult for the GOP to ever win again in the future. If they do that kind of crap to subvert DeSantis, they'll look insane and authoritarian to a broader swath of the public. DeSantis doesn't have the same effect on the average lib/left person that Trump has. They hate any GOP candidate of course, but their hatred of Trump is unique. That is why the elite were able to convince people that gross overreach and "by any means" tactics were necessary. It was easy for them to convince people that Trump was dangerous because he's so boorish and cavalier. With DeSantis, the media's attacks on him will appear transparently hyperbolic and desperate to a broader range of people. It won't be as easy for the elite to fearmonger and convince people that DeSantis is dangerous (and thus overreach is necessary to prevent him from taking power). DeSantis is a very reasonable person, and that is clear to anyone who actually hears him speak. He's a way more effective diplomat and orator than Trump. He might not create the same energy Trump created among a very fervent base, but he'll have broader appeal with basically the same policies as Trump. I think he'll have a better chance of winning '24 and '28. I think a Trump presidency in '24 might ruin DeSantis' chances in '28. Even though the fortification might have been what ultimately won them the 2020 election, it can't be denied that we saw tens of millions of people go out and vote for an invalid just to get rid of Trump. DeSantis won't energize the Right the same way, but he wouldn't energize Left the same way either, plus he'll appeal to more moderates, which is the key to winning in this country. You look at the candidates the Dems have, and I think DeSantis would win in a landslide in '24 and would probably win again in '28 barring any catastrophes.
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