Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "Even Business Insider Now Echoes My Prior DACA Prediction" video.

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  5. @Manfred Byron: Yes, there have been non-Whites living in Western countries for centuries, but still the U.S. was 90% White European about 100 years ago. That fact is slightly irrelevant to your other point, but it serves to preface the overall framework of the discussion, just as you did by saying that non-Whites have ancestral claim to the U.S. Regardless, I know that the argument against ethno-nationalism always comes down to practice, because the theory is hard to argue against (the data is on our side: ethno-states are highly optimal). That being said, the idea that forcible deportations are a forgone conclusion to achieve what most WNs want is not valid. Many vilify the formation of such a state by saying it can only be achieved with draconian "Nazi" tactics i.e. that WNs would want to kill/enslave all non-Whites and "purge" the new-formed state. That is ridiculous and irrational and hysterically contrived conclusions like that are a deliberately dishonest way of discrediting and marginalizing the concept. Styx has partaken in this type of fear-mongering/Nazi conflation. The idea of an absolute ethno-state is impossible for Americans or any European countries at this point without ethnic cleansing and deportation of non-White citizens. That is true. But Balkanization could occur, or the establishment of 90+% White majority states without displacing non-Whites within that newly-formed state. If non-Whites wanted to leave that newly formed state, they could, and many surely would in that scenario. At that point, free, racially and culturally aware Whites would be able to practice their way of life and chose who enters their state in order to protect that way of life, just as Japan does. That idea is essentially the idea of ethnic separatism that could work in practice in Western countries. "Free association" can never work, because that would mean foreign elements could come and live amongst Whites and sabotage White interests and our way of life. This is the problem with the current system: Whites have no control over their own destiny. Non-Whites overwhelmingly vote for Marxist and authoritarian policies and support toxic dissident causes that undermine the cultures and way of life of majority White populations.
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  11. valleykilladude The precolonial Americas were not multiracial, and the indigenous population was not able to reach any populations of other races. If they could, they probably would have tried to enslave them or conquer them, just as they did with neighboring population groups. Native American and Mesoamerican civilizations practiced slavery en masse. It had to do with the subjugation and conquering of other tribes, not just warfare. The Mayans, for instance, enslaved entire groups of people that were considered inferior tribes. The Aztecs and Incas did the same thing. It was generational, if the slaves weren't first sacrificed in some cruel and barbarous religious rite. The root of the word Hispanic is also irrelevent to this conversation. Did slavery in the British North American colonies predate slavery in Latin America by 350 years as you claimed? No it did not. End of story. You've deflected from that original claim with other meaningless arguments. Every race, religion, ethnicity, culture, and creed practiced slavery to some extent, by some definition, and at some point in history. Many Islamic countries did not abolish slavery until the 1960-70s, and they were enslaving Blacks 700 years before Europeans. There are open slave markets in North Africa right now where Arabs are selling Blacks as slaves. No one seems to demonize Muslims for this. The West, most notably Britain and the U.S., are the powers that did the most to abolish slavery and the slave trade around the world. Latin America has no historical innocence in the realm of slavery; not the indigenous peoples, not the mestizo population, not the European population. They all practiced slavery. In comparison, they also sacrificed significantly less than Britain or the U.S. did to correct the mistakes they made. Latin American countries still have a heavily stratified race-based social caste system. I would say American Hispanics are, on average, more racist towards Blacks than are American Whites. I am not alone in that opinion. Most honest Hispanics would agree with me.
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