Comments by "No Fate But What We Make" (@SonoftheAllfather) on "No Transgender People in the Army: Who cares?" video.

Yes...let's give a group of people with a mental illness a bunch of weapons and charge them with the defense of our country. Forget that they have a 40% suicide rate.
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Think about what precedent this sets in a global context. Do you think China and Russia are thinking about letting transexuals into their militaries? (rhetorical question) What do you think they are thinking about us at this point? (another rhetorical question) Now think what they would think of us if some bearded lady showed up representing our country as a Joint Chief of Staff. IN-sanity. Thank the Nine there is finally someone in the WH with both the logical reasoning and spine necessary to stand up to all the manufactured media outrage and PC grievance mongering concerning wedge issues like this.
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Birthday Killer GTFOH with that CNN spam, you utter cretin. You clearly have a cognitive bias if you believe a single fucking word that comes from CNN at this point.
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T_The _Bean it was a rhetorical question. I know that China and Russia don't let mentally ill people into their militaries. Is English your second language?
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jocs2222 if you really believe the majority of people in the military are insane, you clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about and have no place in any argument concerning military matters.
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callate pues as Jessie said, it has nothing to do with them being patriotic and able-bodied. It has to do with their propensity towards depression, suicide, and mental instability. Veterans and active duty military already have massively high rates of suicide. More than 22 per day, I believe. That's one every 65 minutes. The last thing we need is to enlist a category of people that are known to have massively high rates of suicide before even seeing combat or trying to live a military lifestyle.
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My point is that comparing the disparity between male and female suicide rates with the disparity between the transgendered suicide rate and literally any category of people is ridiculous. 4 times the rate of suicide could literally mean 4 in 100,000 as opposed to 1 in 100,000. So, no, in this context, 4 times the rate doesn't really amount to a massive disparity unless the rate is already fairly significant to begin with. The average suicide rate in the U.S. for all people is 13.2 in 100,000. The transgendered rate (at 40%) would be 40,000 in 100,000 in that context. That is 3,030 times the normal rate. And you're comparing that to 4 times the rate? What fucking universe are you living in? Oh right, the one where "there's no evidence that muslims pose a greater threat to US safety than their own citizens" You're just grasping at straws. You are making ridiculously inane points, and then you have the audacity to be sanctimonious and patronize people that are actually able to logically reason. I called you out on your snarky little attitude, calling grown adults "children" and telling them to "shush," and that is somehow just as condescending? lol okay. To my knowledge, you haven't refuted any of my points whatsoever. No matter how much desperate apologist virtue signaling you partake in, it isn't going to change the basic nature of reality. Transgenders being banned from the military is completely logical and will probably be good for transgendered people in the grander scheme of things.
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Jessie LC: Leftists would love for that statistic to not be valid.
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Birthday Killer: have you ever been in the military?
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Nicholas Totoro being a veteran myself, 6 years active, 3 years reserve...I'm well aware of that fact.
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Saito Keritich military members and veterans take their life more than twice as often as civilians. 30 in 100,000 as opposed to 13 in 100,000. What makes you think transgenders would be any different? You are arguing that they are just normal people, are you not? You think they would magically not be affected by the hardships of military service? I think you might be forgetting that gender identity crises already lead to depression and various other mental disorders in the majority of cases. Post-op, pre-op, it doesn't matter. They all display vastly higher rates of mental disorders. So yeah, let's add the hardships of military service on top of that. Great idea. In fact...let's take anyone who has mental disorders associated with depression and high suicide rates and put them in combat. Brilliant. I think you might have to have a mental disorder to think that would be a good idea.
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Saito Keritich I am: 1.) a combat veteran 2.) a person that works with veterans with mental problems professionally, including transgendered individuals. 3.) a person that has close friends and family that have suffered from various mental disorders associated with military and combat service. 4.) a person that has 3 children, all of whom are very well adjusted. You are: 1.) an internet troll. 2.) a low-ability person with a cognitive bias of illusory superiority i.e. Dunning-Kruger effect 3.) a person with an egocentric bias resulting in cognitive dissonance, namely a belief perseverance, rendering you incapable of deductive reasoning. 4.) a person with seemingly no anecdotal, personal, or real world experience concerning the military, military members and veterans, psychological disorders, or identity crises. I wonder who the voice of reason is here? I wonder whose opinion an average person would trust concerning this matter? (Rhetorical question). Fuck off, now.
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Jessie LC that is the case with every Leftist and nearly every argument they make. Feels before reals. Their arguments are rarely, if ever, based upon a foundation of logical reasoning. But they always make it seem like you're the illogical one. It's pathetic. Lol
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Saito Keritich "shush children?" Please, continue making ineffectual and illogical arguments and conjoining them with typical sanctimonious Left-wing condescension. You're so perfectly stereotyping yourself. I can't wait for your next comment.
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@Saito Keritich: It was never an issue to who? To you? I agree we're talking about such an insignificant amount of people, it almost doesn't matter.... But that's not the argument you were making and not the argument that matters. You were making the argument that they deserve to be in the military and it is logical because other categories of people have high rates of suicide as well. But no category has higher rates than transgendered individuals, no matter how you try to manipulate the argument. I do understand psychological conditions. I am a combat veteran and many of my buddies have suffered from depression and anxiety from PTSD, TBI, chronic pain, you name it. I also work at a VA hospital. Veterans kill themselves all the time. Maybe you should come down and visit the mental ward here at the VA sometime. You probably wouldn't have the spine, but it might open your eyes...then again, I think you're content living in your own little delusional version of reality... You've lost this argument...in case you didn't realize that already. That last comment was proof you're triggered as fuck and have stooped to ad hominem attacks and autistic screeching. Congrats. Please don't breed.
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Saito Keritich I don't need to prove that transgendered military/veterans in particular would/do commit suicide at a higher rate. That "logical leap" you speak of is called deductive reasoning. Example: Combat veterans have a high suicide rates. Known. Drug addicts and alcoholics have high suicide rates. Known. Ergo, I will make a "logical leap" and conclude that combat veterans that are alcoholics and/or drug addicts will likely have higher suicide rates than combat veterans without those problems. Even if we didn't know of the connection between substance abuse and suicide in combat veterans, it wouldn't take a genius to deduce that the two together would create a perfect storm. That is part of the reason the military screens for people with a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse. Real groundbreaking deductive reasoning skills there. I still can't believe you can't/won't grasp this concept. The argument with transgendered individuals is no different. You don't put people with a known condition or mental disorder (that is already known to be inherently conjoined with depression and suicide) into the mindfuck that is combat, and just hope it all works out for the best. Combat is no place for the Left's twisted postmodernist social experiments. You may consider these to be assumptions, but in reality a large part of having wisdom and sagacity is the ability to make logical inferences based on sound assumptions. I have experience in these matters. You clearly do not. Be gone.
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@Kajakev: I know what he's trying to say. I said the same thing in my OP, but it was in the form of a rhetorical question. I know that China and Russia don't let transgendered people in their militaries.
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@Infectious Waste: Not to mention, intersex individuals constitute only a very small percentage of the gender confused community, and are in reality not even transgender at all. They are an actual amalgamation of the two sexes because of a biological abnormality. Transgendered people are not biologically abnormal. They are biologically a certain sex, they simply try to act like the opposite sex, the sex which they are not. So really, they are simply delusional. You probably already know this, I'm just reiterating if by some chance you didn't know.
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@ Kristen B: Also, I don't expect you to understand this because you've likely never been in the military, but it is really no place for social experiments. There are some trans people in the military, and perhaps they join at a higher rate than "cisgendered" people, but their motives for doing so could be easily attributed to their need for hormonal "therapy" and sex change operations. The military is a K-select, fully volunteer force that has the luxury of excluding a wide variety of people with known physical, mental, emotional, and behavioral problems. You could make the argument that the military discriminates on any number of people they exclude for various issues. People that were once drug abusers, for instance, are "able-bodied." No one cries about discrimination when the military excludes them. A person that has a disorder known to cause suicide rates that are thousands of times higher than the national average should not be charged with the defense of our country and subjected to the mental rigors of military service.
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