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Comments by "Geordiedog" (@geordiedog1749) on "How German Submarines Almost Defeated the Allies - Battle of the Atlantic Documentary" video.
Thanks for at least mentioning the coastal convoys. You also did a good job in your phoney war vid. I’m always appalled at total lack of appreciation of the poor colliers getting slaughtered just a mile off our coast. I’ve put in a proposal for my MA to do the coastal convoys arguing that Churchill sold the colliers down the bog just to keep ‘the home (counties) fires (literally) burning. London required 700,000 tonnes of coal a week and any reduction would have looked very bad to the ‘folks back home (in the SE). Thus the coastal convoys in their ‘dirty British steamers with their salt caked smoke stack’ where hammered by the Luftwaffe and kriegsmarine schnellboots. Sorry….. I’m ranting now. I’ll stop. Great vid. Looking forward to the next bit:)
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@mgytitanic1912 oooh straw man - tastic! - well, kind of….:) So…..I’m arguing that Churchill (who deserves bashing in my opinion but then I’m a damn Trot and have always bashed him so - not trendy:) chose to have the colliers continue to plod on down the coast without proper protection and part - Part - of his motivation was to keep the South East of England ticking over as if the lights/fires/cookers etc went out there it would be more injurious to his authority (that was precarious at the time) than say Exeter. It’s a myth (I admit) that it was solely about SE and Home Counties domestic coal as some colliers actually thought at the time and refused to risk the journey “to keep some posh git from Kensington warm” (Foynes, BotEC - Blyth colliers refused to sail believing this was why they were going) BUT I believe there was a degree of truth to it. Churchill’s lack of regard for the North and it’s workers was well documented. I also think that their lordships at the RN and also RAF planners badly screwed up in their preparations. I’d actually argue that the crabs messed pretty much everything up (this idea came from not reading an email properly for an on line debate during lock down where I thought I was supposed to be attacking the argument that the RAF were ineffective in WWII and realised with a day to go I was supposed to be doing the opposite. Yes, I’m that careless - just ask Mrs Geordiedog!)
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@mgytitanic1912 There’s no victim mentality north of the Tyne. Just saying. Anger and stuff… sure. Sunderland…. On the other hand…… No need for being patronising thought. And no need for the attempt on the moral high ground either. If I was looking for that I’d talk to Mrs GD (ah….. casual chauvinism…..). Sorry…. Too many full stops. Must be the pink gins. I love pink gins. More interesting is - would the RAF still have triumphed* if they’d just had Hurricanes. *a chap on here once was convinced that the Luftwaffe won the Bof B. Utterly convinced. Argued like a possessed person that they’d won. Hey ho….
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@mgytitanic1912 I’m somewhat less predisposed to pink gins this morning.
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@mgytitanic1912 A wee bit. aye! I’m such a cheap date these days. But the new Armoured Carriers vid on The Skua with ‘Winkle’ Brown has made amends.
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@mgytitanic1912 If you don’t know the Armoured Carriers stuff I genuinely envy you but I’d say clear away a couple of days as it’s full of content. I came across it while researching Operation Pedestal which is a good a place to start as any. Or maybe the bit on Winkle shooting down a Condor in a Martlet. Anyway, it’s my personal fave site on you toob. Bloke who runs it is from the colonies but he’s a very decent chap:) Hours of fun ahead! Never a bad thing.
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@mgytitanic1912 Is that the book on naval aviation combat in WWII? To my absolute shame I haven’t read it. Yeah, yeah…….I know. But I defo will read it.
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