Comments by "Madrockon" (@madrockon7357) on "spiked" channel.

No? It could just mean that there are actually Far Right people in the UK pushing Far Right agendas fueled by racism. Just sayin' man.
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So we don't want any workers rights, humanitarian aid for natural disasters, Human rights acts, freedom of movement within the EU to go wherever you want, no boarder checks, paying less for imported products, paying less for medical drugs and equipment, laws against mass tax dodging and fraud and economic wealth on the world stage? <--- You will lose all of this and more. Don't believe me? Look for yourself! We are in for a bad time. At least i can say i told you so, but that doesn't really make me feel much better about it to be honest.
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@timothyhallett6312 I don't call fascist nationalism a "perfectly ordinary" view point... The UK has had a rise in racist attacks since Brexit. Fact. Our prime minister holds Far right, fascistic and homophobic views. Also a fact. Because of the Right. We are now treading very dangerous grounds towards a lack of free speech and a more authoritarian ran state. This is why the political divide has never been greater and why tensions are so high in the UK. We are in for a bad time. A lot wouldn't have noticed this yet.
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jimmy Not really... It could also mean that you actually are a racist.
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@timothyhallett6312 I do, not hold "extreme views" as you happen to put it. That is completely subjective. Nore am i a racist, like some people who are pushing Far Right ideologies. It's also a fact that Hate crime has doubled in the last 5 years. I find that utterly disgusting, it is completely unjustifiable. Saying Left Wingism is fascistic as a scapegoat does not give you moral high ground either. Hilter for example was Far Right fascist. In other words, it is down to the leader and the circumstances that leads to fascism and an a abuse of political power. Being either Right or Left wing is a secondary factor. In the UK's case the Right Wing government has used racism during the Brexit campaigns and misinformation by the media to influence peoples voting stance to remain in power. The facts are physically written, you can source EVERYTHING i just told you. I fact check on a regular bases from multiple sources, so when i say something, i know that it is true and or has happened.
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@timothyhallett6312 If you "teach stuff", then you should no the truth. Which you obviously do not. Don't defend such heinous acts. You should do your research and fact checking before commenting back to me. I fact check from multiple different sources on a daily bases, so i know what i say hold legitimate clout. That also means i know when you are lying. You also know Boris Johnson did Class A drugs right? He is basically a criminal. Don't defend someone who has said the things they have said, and done the things they have done like Johnson has. He hasn't even helped the vulnerable during the floods. Not even given a public statement. I find his recent accolade utterly disgraceful. (EDIT.) I read over what you said a second time, and it appears as though you are showing more concern that aggression towards me. I apologize, though i will add that everything that i say is actually true. I wish for a more progressive and fairer society that does not advocate for further division to one day assemble on the UK. But for as long as the UK's people keep propping up the rich, this will not happen. Things are unfortunately set to get worse before they get better.
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And to gain what? untold riches?
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Now they are being removed in the UK. Lmao! Ironic isn't it? Very, very ironic.
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pagan warrior What are you talking about? Haven't you studied politics recently? I can tell you haven't. Boris Johnson's government recently removed the Workers Rights Act that the EU used to protect the working class with to stop the UK's rail sector workers from going on strike. He then later removed the Human Rights from child refugees. But hey... At least i get to say i told you so, right?
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Errr. Over 45% of medicine comes from the EU... Also, Trump's America want Brexit Britain to pay more for medical drugs. It's pretty much a political disaster for the NHS. But you were warned about this.
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@lindoncoffee I know, good luck with that. Because we don't have the infrastructure nore the money in place to make our own medical drugs. We don't even have enough doctors in the medical sector. Get rid of the conservatives, and replace it with a real peoples government, and rejoin the EU. All your "problems" will simply go away. Otherwise it will just make every ones life a misery. Can you say that you are truly content with life in the UK? Because i can't.. I can't at all. The tory government that has been in power for 10 years has brought this country to it''s knees and then blamed the damage they caused on third partys to remain in power. We should all join together and hold them accountable, and soon.
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Well, i wouldn't say the UK is Far Right YET, but it is absolutely stepping in that direction. Boris Johnson for example is a man elected by the electorate who has Far Right views on race, and holds homophobic perspectives. His cabinet and advisers are hiring Far Right racists too. Sooo.. That is pretty damn far right. So this is actually a genuine point of concern. If you get emotionally triggered by people mentioning the Far Right in the UK, you are basically exposing it's existence by being defensive, and or self conscious towards the subject.
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@innerspaced How is using facts delusional? Elaborate that for me please.
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@innerspaced It absolutely can not be. I have expressed zero hate speech. I have rights to say what i want as long as it does not attack protected groups. You obviously did not know this. They are all facts. Go ahead and fact check me and tell me in detail why my facts were incorrect. You can't do that because it is already information made public. You can't deny them, when people look for themselves they will find what i have quoted within seconds! I suggest that you stop threatening people online and spreading fascistic hate among the masses. Otherwise you will become part of the problem.
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You do realize Boris Johnson has removed the Workers Rights Act from public Rail Sector workers to stop them from going on strike and is planning to remove more workers rights in the future, right? If you didn't know that, you should have before making that comment.
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Errr.. they normally do always happen... So far everything we have warned you about Brexit has happend. And we haven't even officially left the EU yet.
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Lol! Are you precipitating?
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And you claim there are no Far Right fascists in Britain? xD
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errr... They almost are. They are Right Wing right now but are showing signs of moving towards a Far Right ideology. The new conservative leader Boris Johnson has expressed Far Right views towards race and openly spoke homophobic slurs in public. He has also hired Far Right fascists into his cabinet who recently left parliament because people found out how dangerous their views were. Boris Johnson's government also removed the Workers Rights Act that the EU used to protect the working class with to stop the UK's rail sector workers from going on strike. He then later removed the Human Rights from child refugees. Pretty sick stuff.. Like i stated above, I wouldn't say the UK is Far Right YET, but it is absolutely taking subtle steps in this direction. We should all start getting more involved in politics, to prevent any evil from taking things that are important to all of us.
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@MrJevman No? Just genuine political research. It's not hard to find. It's hardly a secret.
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@MrJevman Far right is the ideology of being strictly authoritarian. Oppressive in nature towards free speech and human rights. A Far Right government that shows hate and harmful intent towards individuals it does not see as part of it's society. Usually nationalistic too. That is a generalization of what it means to be Far Right. Now if you don't have any factual information to debate, we are done here.
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@MrJevman I told you facts in the previous comment. I bet you googled it to see if i was right or not didn't you. xD You found out i was right and then could do nothing else but just deny that i even said anything. Nice one.
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@laurentiusforever There is when it get's out of control, and taken too far. Besides. We already had 90% of our Nationalism anyway while within the EU. With the setup deal (we once had), we helped run the system of the EU, as the 3rd EU's strongest power. Most of all the laws and rules the EU made the UK accepted to take. In other words, our own government that everyone still voted for when they voted for Boris Johnson, has willingly accepted various laws the UK helped the EU construct. Boris Johnson's government and the government before he's caused the the mess we are in today. Then blamed the austerity and immigration on a 3rd party (The EU) to divert the blame so they could stand a chance of remaining in power during the election. It's all about to backfire soon though, with the looming possibility of Boris forcing a No Deal Brexit and the Coronavirus destroying what little infrastructure we have left in our health service. Things are looking beyond grim. People apparently wanted this, after all everyone voted for it despite the warnings, right?
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What's bad about that? I mean unironically. Elaborate how the EU is the big bad pls.
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@heidipointer5639 Are you still talking about Labour? That is what the Conservative party are doing under Boris Johnson right now as we speak. Jeremy Corbyn's reformed Labour party was true Labour. It was a party strictly constructed for the people. Did you also know that When Jeremy Corbyn helped end the war in Northern Ireland, he later had the rare honor of receiving the International Gandhi Peace Award for his selfless contributions. He also spent Christmas day with the homeless and vulnerable with a charity, giving out gifts. While Boris Johnson spent his Christmas on a free £15,000 holiday bribed to him by the Carphone Warehouse. I strongly believe the electorate have voted for the wrong person.
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@heidipointer5639 Well you will be mistaken. If you knew exactly what type of Person Boris Johnson was. Have you ever heard of a man called Dominic Cummings? He runs the show behind Boris Johnson. If you think Boris is leading the cause, you are mistaken.
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@heidipointer5639 That's not what would happen. The goal and design of Jeremy's democratic Socialist government was to push investment into independent businesses, and gain back public ownership of the privately owned public services that are currently horrifically underfunded. Let's not forget that Socialism is not communism here either. That trick is used a lot by the right wing to convince people that Labour had bad intentions. The conservatives also lied about Labour not being willing to support the army. In reality, it was said that if Labour had won, there would have been a 10% spending boost to our armed forces too. Not only that, but Labour also promised to be very strict on tax dodgers. Making all the god tier and other powerful companies, like Google, Costa, The Daily Mail, The Express and Amazon. They owe the UK hundreds of millions because the conservatives allow them to not pay tax. Our austerity is caused by the Conservative government, because of tax dodging, deliberate under funding of public services to make way for privatization, job cuts to businesses ran by the government, MP's making financial economic cuts to companies so they themselves can be wealthier and indirect damage caused by Brexit.
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@heidipointer5639 Only because our prime minister has literally expressed homophobic and racist views. With a statistical dramatic increase in racist attacks by Far Right thugs in the past 5 years since Brexit. Causing further division from the rest of our European continent. What else to you want us to say, at this point? Things are the way that they are. They can not be denied or be changed to make the actions of Boris Johnson's government or the ideologies behind Brexit sound justifiable when they are not. That is basically a fact. Let me guess, you will deny that too?
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Lol.. So you don't want any more Human rights then? xD Or economic wealth for the constituency that you happen to inhabit? Or any freedom of movement in the EU without extremely long boarder checks? Or paying less for medical drugs and equipment? Or having minimum health standards on food? Lmao! You guys just politically cuckolded yourselves. xD
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Being Far Right is a major problem. The Nazi's of the 1940's were Far Right too. Does the UK want nationalistic fascism? That is the real question.
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I know my history just fine thank you very much. I stated the 1940's because everyone remember the war period better than the peace period. And no. Far Right politics is literally deportations and hate towards other races and authoritarian policies. Stop attempting to justify it. It is not very commendable.
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@destroytheeussr122 Meh indeed..
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@pulsaran What on Earth are you on about? Do you not understand what conversation we are having?
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Claiming the conservatives are democratic is factually contradictory. Boris Johnson is forcing the Scottish people to remain in the United Kingdom. Even though Scotland has requested for a Scottish referendum. Boris Johnson is not letting them have a democratic vote. There for the UK is no longer democratic because it is not following those principles by the book. Brexitiers only accept laws when it suits them. Literally in this case.
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@bobbym4122 I'm not Scottish. All i'm saying is that we can't be bigot Hippocrates when it comes to democracy. That is the point i'm making.
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I would usually agree, but with the complications of Brexit. It is no longer that simple anymore. Boris Johnson has already started to deconstruct our laws and governmental system. He recently removed Workers rights, so public rail sector workers could not go on strike, and his government also striped the Human Rights Act from child refugees. Pretty sick stuff. He is also currently in the process of removing the House Of Lords, to gain even more legal power in government, so his government can fabricate harsh policies that usually would not be legally accepted and will not be held accountable for it. Johnson has also been taking some very shady bribes over Christmas time, When he received a free 15,000 holiday gifted to him by the Carphone Warehouse. The man should not have had the chance to be put in government in the first place, now he has a full majority to inflict what he wants. As for the next election. He has future plans to redesign how the voting system works (I do not yet know what he is thinking of changing yet.) Which should allow him to win a majority with even less votes, by using loopholes.
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But it's not though, is it. It's not at all. Lol!
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@elusiveeagle8597 I was refereeing to that it will be much worse than remaining in the EU. We no longer have protection against the conservatives.
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How is the EU corrupt? On what scale? Do you know how corrupt the UK government is? Do you want me to tell you how corrupt the UK government is?
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That's the country's leaders responsibility. The EU workers rights can only cover so many things. It depends on how laws are altered. Could you imagine how bad it could have been with no laws to stop them at all? Think about that for a second.
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Errr. No mate. They are Right wing. Or should i say, at least they were... The new conservative leader Boris Johnson has expressed Far Right views towards race and openly spoke homophobic slurs in public. He has also hired Far Right fascists into his cabinet who recently left parliament because people found out how dangerous their views were. Boris Johnson's government also removed the Workers Rights Act that the EU used to protect the working class with to stop the UK's rail sector workers from going on strike. He then later removed the Human Rights Act from child refugees. Pretty sick stuff.. I wouldn't say the UK is Far Right YET, but it is absolutely taking subtle steps in this direction. If you wanted a Left Wing government. Jeremy Corbyn was known as Far Left. The Right Wing media controlled by the conservative politicians launched a hate campaign on Jeremy Corbyn towards the last election of 2019, Examples like The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Express and The Telegraph to swig peoples voting stance towards Boris Johnson. Giving birth to one of the most horrific political disasters in British history since WW2.
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