Comments by "K `" (@user-jt3dw6vv4x) on "The Take" channel.

@Disgruntled_Fork Yeah it's unfortunate and Americans determine how "Asian" you are based on your appearance and culture. To Americans, more physical and cultural proximity to China makes you Asian, anything further away makes you less Asian or not Asian at all. What's also funny is that many Americans ignorantly believe that most of Southeast Asia is culturally closer to China when in reality it's culturally closer to India. It's no wonder Southeast Asian Americans have to create movements like Brown Asians Exist to talk about the lack of Southeast Asian and South Asian representation.
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@gilyanajune7081 In the US, "Asian" means "Mongoloid". It's not the case everywhere and certainly not in Asia. Asian is not a race. Only Westerners, Latin Americans and Africans think "Asian" is a race. That's why Americans think "Asian" means East and Southeast Asians and British think "Asian" means South Asians. It's not a race. People need to stop using "Asian" as a race, it has never been the case and especially not in Asia because we have our own words in our ancestral languages that indicate race and are not conflated with "Asian" which is purely geographical/cultural.
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@gilyanajune7081 Terms like Caucasoid and Mongoloid are outdated. The concept of "race" is flawed. South Asians are not "Caucasoid" they are in fact "mixed race" because they are the descendants of three genetically distinct ancestral populations, one which is native to South Asia and related to East Asians and Aboriginal Australians (known as AASI), one which is related to Europeans and Middle Easterners (known as West Eurasian) and one which is directly of East/Southeast Asian origin (known as ESEA). East and Southeast Asians as well as North Asians are predominantly of the ESEA lineage and are very closely related to one another. They form what is known as the East Asian-related genetic cluster or simply ESEA.
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@gilyanajune7081 Middle Easterners are very closely related to Europeans and belong to the West Eurasian lineage. Middle Easterners to Europeans is what Southeast Asians are to East Asians, they are of the same genetic lineage and form their own genetic cluster. Central Asians are mixed they descend from four lineages (1 West Eurasian and 3 East Eurasian). The West Eurasian lineage is related to Europeans and Middle Easterners, the first and largest East Eurasian lineage of Central Asians is the East Asian lineage, the second largest East Eurasian lineage is the Siberian lineage (Siberian and East Asian lineages are closely related) and the third East Eurasian lineage is an AASI-related lineage.
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@gilyanajune7081 Here are the sources for all of the information I published in my comments, if you are interested to know more about Asian and Pacific Islander genetics and want to verify what I published. "A genetic history of migration, diversification, and admixture in Asia" - Melinda A. Yang, 2022 "Genetic History of Xinjiang’s Uyghurs Suggests Bronze Age Multiple-Way Contacts in Eurasia" - Qidi Feng, Yan Lu, Shuhua Xu, 2017 "Genetics and material culture support repeated expansions into Paleolithic Eurasia from a population hub out of Africa" - Vallini et al. 2022 "The Role of Recent Admixture in Forming the Contemporary West Eurasian Genomic Landscape" - George B.J. Busby, 2015
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@summerhoang Since when were all South Asians Indians? You keep using "South Asian" when this whole thing started with Indian men from India. Not all South Asians are Indians. Most people don't even know any of the other countries of South Asia and assume the whole region is India or that everybody is like Indians.
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@raibhansjadhavrsj6352 Indians getting called terrorists mainly involve Sikhs and that's because they wear turbans. Additionally, this whole thing about Indians/Sikhs being called terrorists only happens in the US because people are very informed about the world around them. Additionally, Indian stereotypes (e.g. model minority, tech worker etc.) are never applied to Arabs anywhere in the West. Also, let's not forget the fact that Pakistanis are stereotyped as terrorists and people in the US can't tell the difference between North Indians and Pakistanis. Arabs and Indians are very different. Arab culture and Indian culture are on the whole very different. Indians have more in common with other South Asians than they do with Arabs. Additionally, India is part of the Indian Cultural Sphere alongside South and Southeast Asia. Middle East is part of a totally different cultural region. In fact, Arabs have more in common with Europeans through their shared history (Mediterranean civilisation, Helenic world, Abrahmic religions). India is totally different and is part of the Dharmic/Indic world (which also had a big impact on East Asia). Chinese philosopher, Hu Shi famously said, "“India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border”. Just google "effeminate Bengali man" and read about this whole situation instead ofdeflecting. There are many books written by Indians about this topic. Facts over feelings. BTW, not having facial hair doesn't make anybody less of a man. 💀
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@gilyanajune7081 I say the concept of "race" is flawed because genetics is much more than just appearance. The dark skinned Papuan people are genetically related to East Asians because they both descend from East Eurasian lineages. The Andamanese tribes of India look very similar to Sub-Saharan Africans but more than half of their DNA is of East Asian origin and are genetically closer to East Asians more so than they are to other South Asians. Terms like "Caucasoid" and "Mongoloid" focus purely on appearance and not about skin deep genetics.
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@raibhansjadhavrsj6352 It's actually about masculinity in the Western world. The small size stereotype is always attributed to Indians/South Asians too and those viral size of [redacted] world maps depicting India on Twitter don't help. The emasculation of South Asian men started with the British Empire when Bengali men were emasculated and feminised. South Indian men working in tech in the US have been associated with the "nerdy male who can't speak to women" stereotype. Additionally, the stereotype has been fueled due to the fact that South Asians are stereotyped as studious and that studying is more important than sport in the eyes of the general public in Western countries.
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@raibhansjadhavrsj6352 Firstly, I'm not going to comment on you talking about the sizes of your private areas with your friends. Not sure why you're airing out such private details on a public platform. Like I said, you and your friends don't represent 1 billion people. Go look at the size of [redacted] world map and tell me what you see, this is where the stereotype comes from. Secondly, why Arabs? Arabs are not the same as South Asians, they're completely different. They look different, they have different cultures, everything about them is different. They have nothing to do with this and are viewed differently in Western countries. Finally, you can google it because I can't go into detail (otherwise this is going to be a very long comment and you're not going to read it). During the Age of Exploration, the Orient was feminised by the Europeans and Asian cultures and people were seen as more effeminate than Europe. The British imperialists created a trope that there was the "manly Englishman" (who was tall and big bodied) and the effeminate Bengali man (who was short and had a small body). In discussin the effeminate nature of Indian men, Thomas Babington Macaulay, a British historian of the time, had said, "The dark, slender, and timid Hindu shrank from a conflict with the strong muscle and resolute spirit of the fair race (British), which dwelt beyond the passes". This is why South Asian actors in Hollwyood are trying to break these stereotypes by portraying roles that depict South Asian men in more masculine roles. Dev Patel has increasingly been cited as an attractive man breaking existing stereotypes through the roles he has played.
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@Nick Arjoma No. South Asians are not closely related to Middle Easterners. They're their own group and if anything, most South Asians are culturally closer to East Asia through their shared cultural heritage involving Buddhism and other Dharmic religions as well as the festivals and traditions celebrated between the two groups like the Hungry Ghost Festival. Why do you think the Imperial Japanese invaded the rest of Asia (including India)? They wanted to unite Asia based on cultural similarities and establish the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. I'm not Indian but I am South Asian and as a Buddhist I honestly see nothing in common with the Middle East in terms of culture or looks. Y'all need to learn more about Asia and Asians before you speak about us.
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What you're talking about is more of an American issue than anything else.
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It applies to both East Asians and South Asians
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@lanwilliams9536 Not all Southeast Asian women. Most Southeast Asian women are brown, whereas Vietnamese women look East Asian so "yellow fever" can't describe all Southeast Asian women. In Thailand, for example, you can find so many foreign men with brown skinned Thai women - clearly they are into darker skinned women.
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@athena608 Yes those things you said are true and to add, it differs depending on group and location. Brown skin is also fetishised and there are men who prefer darker skinned women and thus there is a long history of Western men who fetishised darker skinned South Asian (and Southeast Asian) women during R&R in the 1970s in Singapore and Malaysia (countries where many dark brown South Indian and Malay women live). Saint Jack, a film from the 1970s and set in Singapore, documents this reality of how South Asian, East Asian and Southeast Asian women were fetishised during the Vietnam War period by Western men when bathouses, bars and hotels became locations for sex to relieve Western soldiers of the stress of war. Many of these stereotypes of submissive women emerged during this period and mixed race Amerasian (born to Asian mother and American soldier) were born across Southeast Asia and Amerasians faced severe discrimination with the common belief that they were born to a mother who was a prostitute. Additionally, the diversity of South Asians also adds to this. Many Sri Lankan women have dark brown skin and before the civil war, Sri Lanka used to be a location for European men who went in search for a Sri Lankan wife. One of the largest waves of Sri Lankan migrants to Denmark comprised of Sri Lankan women who migrated with their Danish husbands they had met back in Sri Lanka. Not to mention that Sri Lanka remains one of the main mail order producing nations in Asia after various Southeast Asian nations like the Philippines. Dark brown women are fetishised and in Thailand (which is a major sex tourist destination), you will find many foreign men who prefer the dark brown Thai women over the lighter skinned East Asian looking Thai women.
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@Natasha-to1mh because Southeast Asians are very diverse. Southeast Asians don't all look the same but they are all mostly from the same ESEA lineage. A brown skinned Southeast Asian person like tennis player Nick Kyrgios' Malaysian mother (Nill Kyrigos) is not going to be mistaken for a Chinese/East Asian but a light skinned Southeast Asian person with features resembling East Asian people will be mistaken for a Chinese/East Asian person. Also, besides native Southeast Asians with features resembling East Asian features, many Southeast Asians are of full or partial Chinese descent. A lot of Southeast Asians who have faced racial violence in the past few years are those of full or partial Chinese descent.
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1. Asian is not a race, never was and no it isn't racist. Nobody in Asia considers "Asian" to be a race and everybody knows that Indians are Asians. Americans need to stop dictating to us who is Asian and who is not. Just because Asia is diverse in appearance doesn't mean we don't share things in common. Stop correlating appearance with culture. 2. This stereotype literally affects Indians too so that's why they have been included here
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Well this stereotype applies to Indians too so it makes sense why they'd include them here.
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@LigaFantasma Asian is not a race, never was. It's to do with geography and culture. Nobody in Asia considers "Asian" to be a race.
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@wakakabravo7998 It depends on the context but outside of Asia, "Asian" is used in both a geopgraphic and racial sense due to history. So Americans see East Asians as "Asian" while British see South Asians as "Asian" because "Asian" to them is racial. The whole thing doesn't make sense though if we're being pedantic. There are East Asian looking people in India and South Asian looking people in Thailand. I remember reading from a Singaporean woman of Indian descent how she was always "Asian" in Singapore but when she moved to the US she suddenly became "non-Asian" but then when she moved to the UK she became "Asian" again. I think people don't know that Asian was never supposed to be racial. Also, I wouldn't call Slavic Russians "Asians" because they're not native to Siberia, the original homeland of Slavic Russians is in Europe. A DNA test is not going to say they're from Siberia but from west of the Ural Mountains which is in Europe.
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@starr2870 Yes you're right, I'm aware of that. I just said Indian because the OP only specificed Indians.
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@nmpoy Hindus don't wear similar traditional garb to Muslim people.
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@nmpoy Caucasian is an outdated racial term from the 19th century and there aren't 3 main races. Those terms are rooted in scientific racism. South Asians are not "Caucasian" but are actually are "mixed race", hence why they are so hard to classify. They were formed by the mixing of indigenous South Asian groups with West Eurasian-related (European/Middle Eastern) and East Eurasian (East/Southeast Asian) groups, that's why they look so diverse.
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@shalonanwar6882 It might also to do with the fact that you're half and thus ethnically ambiguous. There are many people who are into darker skinned women and South Asian women have been fetishised as a result of it. A recent study revealed that one of the most common tropes for South Asian women in US films is that of an exotic and seductive woman. In Australia, a 2021 study revealed that South Asian women (along with Southeast and East Asian women) experienced sexual harrassment in the form of fetishism and as a whole comprised 1/4 of all Australian women to face sexual harrassment on the street. Also remember that traditional South Asian garments like the sari have a history of being sexualised. Indian women have also been trafficked into the escort industry in the West. In the 1960s and 1970s, many Scandinavian men used to travel to Sri Lanka to find a Sri Lankan wife and one of the largest waves of Sri Lankan migrants to Denmark was Sri Lankan women who migrated to Denmark with their Danish husbands. Again, that whole tropical dark brown skinned fetish is quite prominent.
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@Myrtillepeacherry 830 people care.
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@raibhansjadhavrsj6352 Um no, it's associated with South Asians too. You talking publicly about the size of yours doesn't change the stereotype... There is something called an exception
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@raibhansjadhavrsj6352 Also, let me just add these are stereotypes, it doesn't mean it applies to everybody. It's a generalisation. Additionally, if a certain stereotype doesn't apply to you why do you care? Live your life instead of letting historical events and stereotypes to cloud your way of life. Clearly these stereotypes don't affect you, so you don't need to worry about them because you know who you are.
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@raibhansjadhavrsj6352 I'll also tell you this, the American education system basically ranks last in the world among developed nations. It's no surprise that Americans are going to call a Hindu a "terrorist" because they think all Pakistanis, Indian Hindus etc. etc. are the same. This doesn't happen elsewhere in the West where people are far more educated.
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@WastedBananas Do Punjabis represent all South Asians? No.
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@Womendeservebetter1 No, not at all. That stereotype is always applied to Indian men as well. I live in a Western country, I know.
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@WastedBananas Bengali men were emasculated and described as feminine by British colonisers. Now what?
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