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Comments by "K `" (@user-jt3dw6vv4x) on "Minorities Debate Colorism, Skin Bleaching and Appropriation | VICE Debates" video.
@mimiad397 That's just in the USA. You may be surprised to know that in the UK, "Asian" means South Asians in colloquial contexts but they still know that East Asians, West Asians etc. are Asians too. So it's really just an American thing.
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@hejiranyc There is no such thing called "Asian race". Idk what type of "Asian" you are speaking about when you say "Asian race" but I'm assuming you are talking about East Asians since this is an American video. Well the fact that is Asian is just a demonym, if you want to be specific about the type of people in the region you can say "East Asian" for example because not everybody in Asia is the same "race". Also, people must stop bringing up Russians as a point. White Slavic Russians are not Asians, they are not native to anywhere in Asia. The native people of Siberia (Asian Russia) are ethnically and culturally related to East and Central Asians. White Slavic Russians colonised Siberia.
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Yeah they really need to bring in some dark skinned South Asians and Southeast Asians.
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Ikr that was so confusing to me. I've noticed that there are some mixed white people who really want to believe that they face the same issues that non-mixed race people go through even though they are physically more similar to White Europeans or White passing. Someone needs to tell them that it's okay if they're white passing, it doesn't undermine that they are of mixed origin. However, trying to claim you face colorism when you're pale skinned or insisting you look "non-white" even when you're literally white passing (like I see many Americans do on TikTok) is just a strange thing to do.
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@MrColdwilliam I agree with you but the global perspective will be kind of hard to achieve but they can certainly do a part 2 and include other groups (including recent migrants) to continue the discussion. That would be interesting because this video was very interesting.
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@cjo4210 Since when did "dark skinned people = Black Africans only"? You say they have "[nothing] in common with darker skinned people", so where do all the dark skinned South Asians and Southeast Asians go? Colorism in Asian communities has nothing to do with White European people.
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@hejiranyc Exactly
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@Catlily5 India's colorism is not from caste. There are dark skinned people who are high caste and light/pale skinned people who are low caste.
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@HenryLeslieGraham Maybe stop thinking everything is about left-right wing politics. OP made a valid point. If one is talking about colorism, why select people from mostly one racial demographic and people who are mixed race and fair/pale skinned?
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@Catlily5 I have to respectfully disagree, there aren't exceptions. Caste has a genetic element to it based on autosomal DNA but it's not exactly about skin colour. There are light skinned people who are classified as low caste in India (e.g. Other Backwards Class category) and that's because they're tribals. Caste is about occupation in society. Some of the most important gods in Hinduism like Vishnu and Krishna have dark skin.
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@Catlily5 I have to respectfully disagree.
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Vegas Element No I absolutely am not. If you think a White passing mixed person in the United States faces colorism then you're either living in an alternate universe or have a strong desire to be treated as a victim.
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@cjo4210 Huh? Where did you hear this?
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Zaydan Alfariz He's no dark skinned, he's just trying to make an unjust remark about the USA
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@Catlily5 I don't think so. Nepal and colorism are not correlated. Many people can be high caste and be of darker colour but generally speaking, most Nepalis have lighter skin compared to most other South Asians (Himalayan people are generally the lightest people in South Asia). I would say it's because of India's cultural influence. India was the main cultural power in South and Southeast Asia and the concept of idolisation of light skin and high bridged noses among other things can be seen in Hindu poetry. Indian cultural influence spread across South and Southeast Asia so that explains why lighter skin is preferred across South and Southeast Asia (even in countries where a caste system doesn't exist and were never colonised such as in Bhutan and Thailand).
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@HenryLeslieGraham I feel sorry for you people, imagine living in a toxic country where you can't see the world without making everything a left/right wing issue even when it has nothing to do with any of that. This is why the USA is experiencing societal collapse and China is rising. Have fun on the ride down Henry, I'll be laughing at the top.
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@shalonsmith3653 You're probably the type of person to think South Asians are just Indians and believe in sweeping generalisations, just saying.
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@HenryLeslieGraham You're talking about the US, not the West. Don't drag the rest of the West into this. Nobody in Australia or New Zealand is obsessed with right/left wing politics unlike you. So like I said, enjoy the ride down Henry. You're focusing on the wrong things and you don't even realise it.
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@HenryLeslieGraham Australia is not polarised along right and left wing politics unlike the US. There is no bona fide left wing and right wing party in Australia unlike the US. It is blurred. This is what I mean. Maybe do a little reading on Australian politics and society and you'll know. "You must not watch the news? I live in Australia, I know more about my country than an American. Be serious. Our location in the Indo-Pacific honestly has made us cultivate a different type of mentality.
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Vegas Element If they're light skinned and white-passing they aren't going to experience colorism.
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Vegas Element You must be a white-passing mixed race person that wants to be a victim so bad.
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Vegas Element No, there was that man that was completely white passing. I'm from a country that is not obsessed with race unlike the United States of America. If people in my country saw that man on the street, everybody would think he's white. White-passing people don't face colorism. Don't make this about "sweeping generalisations" and all that, maybe stop wanting to be a victim so bad and just accept the fact that you're lucky to not have to worry about being stopped and attacked because of the colour of your skin and your features.
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Vegas Element So white-passing, that explains why you're gravely offended by what I said.
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Vegas Element He's white passing and I have every right to talk about it because I'm from a Western country and social media is American-dominated. Seeing white-passing people claim they're victims of colorism and racism is really strange to me because nobody sees you as anything but white European. Shouldn't they be glad that they don't have to face racism or colorism? The answer is "yes" but because of identity politics, so many of these people try so hard to be seen as victims and co-opt struggles of non-white people who just want to move on with their lives and not have to worry about these types of things. That white-passing man who said, "i'm the darkest black person in the room" while pointing to his pale skinned hand was really surprising to me.
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Vegas Element I actually do know what I am talking about, you don't however because you're supposedly white passing.
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Vegas Element I know exactly what I am talking about. You can keep replying to me and getting upset but I 100% know what I am talking about. Stop being xenophobic and just accept that I know what is being discussed here. Rich of you to talk about you facing colorism as a pale skinned man and then go on and be xenophobic to me in the same breath. Please, be serious.
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@shay5839 Colorism is not about race. Colorism is discrimination based on skin colour and it happens within the same ethnic group or race.
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@maxa6453 That's not at all what colorism is, that's what certain race-oriented people in the USA will say but colorism has never been about wanting to be European. Whiteness is not just about White European people. One of the people on the panel spoke about Asia and skin bleaching, in Asian countries and communities it's not about being proximate to White European people.
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@maxa6453 White does not equal European, that's the distinction here. Most East Asians have white skin too. Colorism isn't linked to race, it's a phenomenon that exists within many communities around the world.
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Colorism isn't about race though
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Firstly, how is any of that mansplaining? This is not a woman's issue to suggest mansplaining is going on. Secondly, those men have differing views which is why you're upset at them. That's all there is to it.
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@falpflap892 I don't need to pay attention to chronically online people like yourself that feel the need to be triggered over everything. Mansplaining??? Nothing in this mansplaining. Stop getting triggered at everything because you want to be a victim so bad. This is why the USA is a declining power while Asian nations reach the top. Have fun on the ride down falp flap, I'll be laughing at the top.
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@rogeliorosas3068 How many accounts do you own?? Rich of you to talk about sensitivity when you made this into a gender issue, when it's not. Americans and their obsession with making themselves victims all the time. The world is tired. Sorry but you're NOT a victim. You want to know who the real victims are, go listen to the women that have to deal with rising misogynistic men's right movement in Asian countries like India and South Korea. Go listen to the poor women and girls that have to suffer in South Korea at the hands of men that engage in semen terrorism. Go listen to the Asian women that are trafficked as mail order brides to China and South Korea because there are too many men and not enough women.
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@rogeliorosas3068 The only sensitive and hurt person here is you. One has to be chronically online and yearn to be a victim if they are claiming this video involves mansplaining, when it doesn't. Always trying to find something to get triggered about. Clear signs of a decaying civilisation.
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@dystopiadaze Stop logging into your 50 YouTube accounts to throw a tantrum because you're tiggered.😂 You're the same person pretending to be multiple people. These people always need to find something to get upset about. They want to be a victim so bad. They ought to be grateful for where they live.
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@dystopiadaze You have nothing substantial to say to counter what I have said, so you continue to repeat the same thing over and over. Typical. Now I want you to do exactly what I tell you to do. Use that YouTube account of yours and reply to me again.
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@dystopiadaze Omg congratulations you did exactly what I said. If I had gold stars, I'd give one to you. BTW, I already figured out you have multiple accounts. I acknowledged this days ago. You want it look like so many people are arguing with me when it's just one radical feminist behind a screen throwing a tantrum.
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@dystopiadaze You're running out things to say and it's ironic how you talk about "basic English" and "democracy", the racism really jumped out. Well I'm from an English-speaking country so you don't need to worry about that but it's ironic to see how you want to fight for your rights but are also racist at the same time. It doesn't make sense but those radical White American feminists are known for being misandrist and racist. I shouldn't be surprised.
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@dystopiadaze Nobody takes that group of people seriously, because all they do is complain about non-existent things. You're NOT a victim. That group of people should be grateful that they live in a country where they actually have rights. Stop complaining and actually contribute to society. Don't think America is going to pander to these people screaming 24/7 behind a computer screen. You're NOT suffering like the poor women who are incredibly brave and highly intelligent fighting so hard for their rights in Iran or those women and girls in Afghanistan who have been barred from getting an education and seeking medical help. You should be grateful that you live in a country where you actually have the freedom to do things.
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@dystopiadaze It's "you're" not "your". Get it right. Radical and unable to speak English properly despite being a White American woman and yet yesterday you claimed I couldn't speak English properly because you thought I was from a non-English speaking country. You called me a "creature", lmaooo it's triggered. My work here is done. Seethe, cry and cope.
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@dystopiadaze You don't know anything about me lmao. You're just a triggered white American feminist woman who is very upset with what I said so you're clutching at straws in an attempt to find some flaw you can call me out on. Nothing you have said is right. Seethe, cry and cope.
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino You're triggered and you don't know what to say, so you're saying all these things using your 50 accounts in hope you trigger me. Embarrassing.
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino I highly recommend you stepping outside and touching some grass.
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino What makes you think I'm trying to see your validation lmaoooooo??? I've been calling you out this wholetime and you think I'm seeking YOUR validation??
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino I'd never seek validation from something like that, just saying.
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino Stop thinking everybody in American lmaoooooo. I'm not from the US. You're just a triggered White American radical feminist woman who runs an account called "Lucas" (a male name). Embarrassing.
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino is*
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino Pipe down Lucas, sorry but nobody's interested.
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino I'm not a conservative lmaoooooo
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino It must make you sad that nobody takes those chronically online White American radical feminists seriously. We don't live our lives online to constantly get offended at things. Y'all are the reason why there is growing backlash to feminism by conservative men. Y'all take things way too far with your chronically online think pieces. This is why everybody online is calling out chronically online White American women even though they have so much privilege and agency compared to non-white American women.
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@VeganSoyLatteFrappuccino All you know how to do is to throw insults in hope you trigger the person you're arguing with. I really couldn't care less what a radical White American feminist has to say but keep replying. I want you to keep replying.
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@HumanoidKoala Oh you're so triggered lmaoooooooooo
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@HumanoidKoala I'm not the one crying because of made up chronically online buzz words.
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@HumanoidKoala FYI, you cry too much about make believe issues
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Well maybe it's correlated to caste in India but the whole of South Asia doesn't believe in caste.
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@aurora6920 Yep, I agree
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@blank.9301 Well it's not about race. Idk why y'all think it's about race. Colorism is about skin colour and it's about people within the same community discriminating against each other.
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