Comments by "duncan smith" (@duncansmith7562) on "Two weeks of chaos - UK riots mapped" video.
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@hendrixinfinity3992 just to give you an idea of how the world works, the free market is the default position and starting point of all societies. The more a person advocates for government interference and government regulation, the more that person moves to the Left. In general.
In general, a Lefty believes in government intervening to attain ideological, egalitarian goals, and the ends justifies the means (hence Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao were all Lefties) and proponents of Laissez Faire, market economics are right of centre (Milton Friedman, Reagan, Thatcher etc)
The nine words a conservative dreads, "I'm from the government, I'm here to help you"
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@hendrixinfinity3992 ah, we start to get to the heart of your twisted logic.
So the white working class lads out rioting are NOT Far Right if they accept people's right to live non traditionally! Yet, without asking any of them if they are ok with non traditional life styles, they get labelled "Far Right" instead of just "right". I am sure you would agree, they have been mis-labelled.
And all Muslims believe in traditionalism, so, all Muslims who believe homosexuality is a sin are Far Right?
So, Stalin is Right? ALL those historians and academics and media and most of the world, they got all this wrong! Stalin was not a Socialist or a Communist, he was of the Right! Wow, that's amazing.
Stalin believed in a mixed market economy? Apart from the tale end of Lenin's NEP, which parts of the Soviet economy were based on private enterprise? cue crickets.
All those kulaks were massacred because they insisted on private enterprise, and Stalin did too! This is hilarious!
It's not that I think I'm smart. It's that I can see thru your bs from the start, and I note how you lecture, but never answer any of my basic questions.
The Pope would be Far Right, correct?
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@hendrixinfinity3992 nice side-step! the ever predictable "Overton Window" answer.
So, let me sum up.
You lied when you said all those who campaigned for civil liberties were on the Left.
100 years ago, those who campaigned for abolishing slavery were NOT on the Left People like Marx and Engels were on the Left, not Wilberforce.
UNLESS WE PLAY WITH THE OVERTON WINDOW (read "shifting the goalposts as we wish) We, the Left, can't justify whatever warped views we have.
What has truly shifted is how the far Left now consider anything NOT far Left to be somehow Far Right! Catholics, Muslims, anti immigrants, those who support a balanced budget, entrepreneurs, those who believe in traditional family values, all are Far Right, or right!
Conclusion = you have redefined things to an absurd point where the Far right are the vast majority of the world!
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@hendrixinfinity3992 "they don't warrant a response" = I give up, I've lost the argument.
As I pointed out, hierarchies exist in the animal world, hierarchies are a feature of biology, and to ascribe hierarchies to being a right wing construct is just infantile.
in essence, based on your nonsensical view of hierarchy, all governments are right wing, and all communities are right wing, because they all rely on a hierarchy. Yes, even your hippy commune will have someone handling the finances and pulling the strings.
I have no Left wing/Right wing axis! I believe it is all woolly nonsense and only specific beliefs can be talked of as being of benefit or not.
It's YOU that insists on the labels, not me! I have nothing to explain, and that is why I see nothing Left nor Right about rioters wanting to reclaim their country back to what it was when they liked it.
You are a naive Lefty that has never truly been challenged, and as I pointed out, to state Stalin was open to free market economics is simply hilarious. you love to lecture, but refuse to answer simple questions. the epitome of someone who understands very little.
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@hendrixinfinity3992 I'm pretty sure I have read a lot more than you, so no lectures needed. Got a BA in Spanish and Russian, MA in English and Spanish, speak 8 languages, retired teacher and lecturer, been to over 100 countries and worked for long periods in such disparate locations as Oman, USA, Bahamas, France and Colombia. No lectures needed from the likes of you.
I'm not disparaging reading at all. Your own reading comprehension of my words is poor. I pointed out that what YOU need is LESS reading COMPARED with thought, reflection, careful observation of the world, and listening to the opinions of people like me.
What makes you think I have never spoken to union leaders? you assume way too much. "fair pay and adequate time off" are subjective things. both, i would argue, have already been settled by market forces. left wing politics just aims to meddle with the market to benefit the few (union members) at the expense of the rest of society.
The only misinformation spread is by the Left. As I said, put down your lefty literature and just speak to some real people who have global experience of real problems, not ivory tower union leaders who care not a monkey's backside for society as a whole.
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