Comments by "Anony Mousse" (@anon_y_mousse) on "Wayland Is Here: Let Xorg Finally Retire!" video.

  1. Regardless of X versus Wayland, I feel like they made a mistake in how they named the project. It really should have been called Y, and then so many people would have gladly used it. As for those people on Windows 7, they shouldn't even be on Windows at all, let alone 7.
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  2.  @mks-h  I think you missed his point. By you saying it works for me you're being dismissive of his problem and pushing it to the side. When this attitude proliferates amongst developers then nothing gets fixed because "it works for me".
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  3.  @mks-h  No, they were under the factual usage that for them it doesn't work, and you abused them of that fact, as opposed to disabuse them.
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  4.  @keit99  A complete redesign as in they threw out everything that came before and started from scratch. Consider that the developers of it were the maintainers for X, so it's not an invalid grammatical usage.
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  5. That's sort of valid and simultaneously not. Maybe you're thinking that if they couldn't fix the problems in X that how can they be expected to fix any problems that crop up in Wayland, but since it's a complete redesign of the protocol they avoided many of the problems that X had.
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  6. I think I'll call it that from now on.
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  7. I feel conflicted on that point regarding AMD. Yeah, more hardware compatibility is good, but I kind of hate Nvidia for how closed off they are and would kind of like to see them die. I feel like they became the market leader only to sit back and do nothing once they got to the top. Now they're just kind of coasting. However, if they opened up all their drivers and had no binary blobs I'd feel completely differently. And yeah, there are some binary blobs that AMD has too, just not as much.
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  8.  @roo79x  Yeah, they both definitely have their problems. And Davinci Resolve wanting to force people to Nvidia really irks me. The thing I wish could become reality is, I wish all drivers and firmware would be open source. I feel like once you've bought a piece of hardware it should be yours. Then issues like this wouldn't occur, or at least would be fewer, because we'd have the source.
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  9.  @roo79x  So they stopped forcing Nvidia? I'll have to look into again then.
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  10.    Sounds like the perfect reason to go with Y, no one will find any information on it and ask themselves why.
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  11. That's kind of weird, since SDDM has a dropdown(up) box at the bottom of the login screen for me and I can select Wayland when logging in with no reboot.
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  12.  @PetraleiTanyl  That's fair I suppose. Although you could just create a user specifically for Wayland or X usage, whichever it is you want, and then dual login. I've got multiple users on my computer and when someone wants to use the computer I can just screen lock and click switch user.
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  13.  @PetraleiTanyl  Not if that's the user account you installed the games with.
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  14.  @PetraleiTanyl  You misunderstood. I don't mean user accounts with Steam. I mean with the DE you're using. I guess I falsely assumed you understood that and were saying something like Steam would detect a different user ID with the OS, but what you're actually saying misses my point.
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  15.  @PetraleiTanyl  I don't know what the GUI tools are, but start with making a new directory for a user in /home, use useradd to add that user and start setting them up. Login as that user with one of X or Wayland enabled while the other user is also logged in. You might have to create a shared directory to allow them to use all the files in your current user directories. Might even work to force the same user ID, but that might also break things, I'd have to test that.
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  16.  @PetraleiTanyl  If it runs better under one compositor than the other, yet for other uses that compositor doesn't work right, then just use that compositor while using Steam. Logging out and back in doesn't work as a solution for you because it's an impediment to workflow, so use the alternate ID merely to play Steam.
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  17.  @PetraleiTanyl  It sounds like your system is setup all wrong. What distro are you using?
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  18.  @PetraleiTanyl  Yeah, you should be able to configure it how you want, but clearly something is going wrong here. I'd suggest some things, but it sounds like you don't really want to take the time to get it working. Maybe you could just try a different distro until you find one configured correctly for your system.
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  19.  @PetraleiTanyl  It's actually easier to switch distros than to edit config files and learn refresh procedures for people that come from Windows. When you're terminally allergic to the terminal it's harder to walk you through certain things.
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  20.  @PetraleiTanyl  I meant as in wiping the install and starting from scratch. It's something that people migrating from Windows would do on a regular basis. But if you knew how to setup a VM you could literally switch distros as easy as opening a new instance. I run Slackware on my desktop, but I've got multiple other OS's that I can "boot" into with qemu. I've been playing with Haiku and TempleOS lately and I can use both at the same time on the same computer.
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  21.  @PetraleiTanyl  I'm just ribbing you. I already figured out 20 messages back that you can't be helped because you don't actually want help. It's just kind of funny because your problem would be easily solved yet you're unwilling to perform the actions necessary to solve it.
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  22. It matters to the end user if it doesn't work. For some, X doesn't work, for others it's Wayland.
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