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Comments by "DynamicWorlds" (@dynamicworlds1) on "Jordan Peterson Claims ‘Group Rights’ Are Catastrophic" video.
Jonathan Nguyen I don't know that it's even strawmanning in the classic sense. The problem is that he starts with the conclusion he wants and twists logic and even language itself to try and support that until it becomes nearly impossible to attack his position without either cutting him of halfway through his wordplay before he can get too far from the actual point that the reality is lost in obfuscation, or the BS in his semantic arguments are painstakingly dismantled.
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George Pemberton the more a society is a meritocracy, the more social mobility we should see. Look up the US's numbers (spoilers: they're not good). We can debate why it's not, and what to do about that, but the fact that it's not isn't really something that can be rationally doubted when confronted with the evidence.
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He also thinks our capitalist system adequately socializes human aggression dispite all evidence to the contrary. He doesn't understand postmodernism with reguards to psychology either, and his overt disdain for anthropology has left him with massive cognitive blind spots. He's just another person using his very articulate way of speaking and his sizable education to argue for his initial biases rather than actually challenging them and expanding his mind.
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He leaves you in a fog because he sounds like he's starting with reason and evidence, but is actually starting with a conclusion and twisting logic and even language itself to support it. If you approach his arguments the same way you would those of an intelligent and articulate theocrat, it becomes much easier to see the logical fallacies.
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Jeremy Chase he's not a liar. To be a liar, he has to believe otherwise, but I think he's completely bought his own rhetorical slight of hand and completely lacks the self-awareness to see his own biases (or even that he's starting from said baises, rather than evidence and logic). Ironically, if he didn't have the disdain for anthropology and post-modernism he does, his extensive education might have actually expanded his mind rather than just building walls around it.
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