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@Ephesians-yn8ux You people needed a ladder to climb a wall, and still fell off, so im not too worried.
also, your right, for once, it was a setup. by trump. and he doesnt like pawns, who fail.
also, you cant prove anything you just said, and we both know it, so be an adult, and admit it
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@1scottdees well, trump made him a a target because of what I said.. and then the rioters screamed to hang the vice pres. Just total coincidence, i know, dumb lib, brainwashed sheep, etc etc.
also, he denied the lawmakers and pence aid. I can prove this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0mOi1yJYMA
also, i never claimed to know the whole truth. im talking about what i can see for my own two eyes, and logically putting things together, based on what is there. Not how I feel. but its not like any evidence in the world is going to change your mind, by your own admission. so, whatever.
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@stephj9378 ...there people were caught on camera committing crimes. by each other. even when they get their trials, theyre so moronic they end up admitting to more, and rat each other out. so... its just as well regardless. and news flash, prison isnt a hotel. you dont get organic food or personal showers, boohoo. i know, its such an injustice, they only raided the capitol in broad daylight. also, you say on other comments that the riot was stoked up by multiple "actors", so those imprisoned could very well be actors. do you want those people released as well? and how do you even determine whos an "actor" and who isnt. id like to know your exact method please, for you to be credible
also you still havent told me what epps actually did*. actually, none of the right has that ive asked. Ive heard he said "we need to take the capitol" but thats not incitement or even illegal. its called free speech. i dont get this chasing after a red herring. focus on the people committed violence, unless you support violent criminals being out on the street. seems like you do, from your own words.
Now, its your turn. i eagerly await your response
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@urbanothepopeofdeath you people dont even know who ray epps is, so how am i supposed to know? According to the right, antifa did this. but, they also seem to care about the morons in prison, so.... really confusing.
also, its clear you didnt watch the video. people died that day. cops (who the right claims to support all the way up to this point) were injured by the dozens.
Also, you do realize during the last two summers, the left were protesting peacefully? proud boys have been jailed for arson. and no police buildings were burned dowm with cops inside, not like youd care.
one question. Where were the legions of NG? the rubber bullets? the waves of tear gas? the cracked skulls? Or military vehicles? because, all of these were used against the summer demonstrators, but i see nothing of the sort at the capitol?
(no, pelosi does not have the power to control the NG. That only belongs to the president.)
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@aguyonastreet You see, i never said that they did, but, significant portion of right still believes in the the voter fraud lie... which led to the violence in the first place. you do the math here.
I never said it did either. youre good at putting words in peoples mouths and arguing with those. just not actually arguing what theyre saying. I should ask the right what it stands for. After all, they also marched with confederate flags, the emblem of losers and traitors into the heart of the nations democracy.
also, we both know you dont care about about my community lol. No need for you false concern. if you guys had your way id still be a slave or something in a cotton field. I dont even like pence, or the capitol, or even america much at this point. I just dislike the right/people like you even more, so cry about this and wring your hands, whatever you want, i guess.
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@kimkelley6942 can you show me where she has the explicit power to issue commands and have them be followed? actually, let me help you!
from politifact:
Capitol security is not solely the responsibility of the House speaker. It is provided by the sergeants-at-arms of the House and Senate, and by the Capitol Police.
The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker, or Pelosi at the time of the attack. The Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader — on Jan. 6, Sen. Mitch McConnell.
News reports indicate that in the days before the attack, House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving resisted calls from the Capitol Police to bring in the National Guard for extra security at the Capitol because of “optics.” Irving later testified that intelligence reports didn’t show the need for the extra security, not that he rejected it because of optics.
from usa today:
"In March, Capitol Police spokesperson John Stolnis told USA TODAY that the agency is overseen by the Capitol Police Board. Several congressional committees also oversee the agency, including the House and Senate appropriations committees, the House administration commitee and the Senate rules committee.
The Capitol Police Board is made up of the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, as well as the Capitol architect. The Capitol Police chief serves in a non-voting capacity on the board, according to the Capitol Police website.
Pelosi was not a chair or administrator of any committee supervising the Capitol Police at the time of the insurrection. She's not listed on any of those committees' websites today, either. "
"Jane L. Campbell, president of the U.S. Capitol Historical Society, told CNN "the Speaker of the House does not oversee security of the U.S. Capitol, nor does this official oversee the Capitol Police Board.""
in any case, she's the one that tried to investigate... before republicans denied the inquiry. if what you said was true, why would she even do that? youre chasing a carrot on stick held by your right wing herders.
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