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Comments by "Debany Doombringer" (@debanydoombringer1385) on "Communist Spies in Hollywood? - Michael Malice" video.
@barrykrishna9981 The own USSR files from that time period say he was right. They were opened and shared in the first few years following the collapse.
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That's been known since the 90s. It's kind of like people saying yelling fire in a crowded theater isn't free speech. That decision was overturned and considered one of the worst decisions the Supreme court ever made.
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Charlie Chaplin refused to return to the US because he was facing charges for child trafficking. He'd had an underaged girl transported to his hotel across state lines. It had nothing to do with accusations from the committee. Lena Horne was in the USSR files that were opened and shared after the collapse. She also returned in movies just a couple years later. Leonard Bernstein had a massive career following that time period. How is that blacklisted? Edit: Chaplin's career was already over. He couldn't transition into talkies. He tried and failed.
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Yes. A lot of people lost their jobs because they were just accused by a neighbor or something, but that had nothing to do with the committee. Though it wasn't as prolific as it's been blown up to be. Pretty much all of them were hired elsewhere in a few months. Even the people in Hollywood had careers again in a couple of years. Reagan, John Wayne, and a couple others who were prominent reported directly to the government on the goings on in Hollywood and the Unions which were run by known Communist at the time. As in visited the USSR Communists.
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If you're talking about individuals accusing their neighbors and the community acting on it then sure. If you're talking about the actual hearings, you're wrong. Most of them were right back in Hollywood continuing their careers like nothing happened a couple of years later. The USSR files proved they were correct and they'd been in direct contact with the Soviet government.
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@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid What decades? The 80s were very anti communist or did you not watch movies? Red Dawn, every Bond movie, etc.
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Which is strange because I lived in Canada for a year and it was some of the rudest people I'd ever been around as a whole. Nice isn't kind btw. They aren't interchangeable and I don't know why people think they are. I can be nice while simultaneously being cruel. Kindness is kind even if it's not always nice. It's nice for me to ignore your addictions. It's kind not to.
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How were Senators doing that when it was a HOUSE committee? They weren't involved which is why calling it Mccarthyism is so stupid. Because they felt bad for betraying their country by the time they testified it was all good? The point of an investigation is to find out how deep something goes, who knows what, and who doesn't know. Look at the Church investigation. Not every FBI agent questioned did anything wrong. If you're a member of group that has known communications with an adversarial government you're going to be questioned. Most of them had been in direct contact themselves. Lots of them had traveled there. They were used as propaganda for the Communist party for recruitment much like ISIS used certain Westerners for it. You sound like people excusing crime today. "They had to steal that car because of society" "Judge they were poor as a child". It's never been an excuse for committing a crime and colluding with a foreign government is indeed a crime. The majority of them, even the ones 100% guilty, were back in Hollywood in a couple of years. Hardly the devastation to their lives you're claiming.
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Republicans, for the most part, still love the country. Not so much for Democrats. It stopped being about representing their state and tow the party line for Democrats a long time ago. Not so much Republicans. That's why it's more difficult for Republicans to pass anything but much easier for Democrats. Republicans will still oppose one another. Democrats bargain about power between each other to get the few that might oppose it. I'm obviously speaking politicians and not individual voters or members. I'm not going to claim that doesn't occur within the Republican party as well. They just have a much larger number that it doesn't work on whereas Democrats have 1 or 2. Republican party is funny. It's own voting members don't like it or the politicians in it. As an independent I get to just point and laugh.
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Cities and towns are direct democracies. I personally don't want to be dictated to by California and New York which is what would happen. Like the policies in California? High taxes, theft under $900 not prosecuted, etc. Oh joy.
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McCarthy wasn't even over any of it as Michael explained. He was a Senator and it was a House committee.
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Social contagion. That's what it is when something appears to spread like a virus. It's been observed a lot recently including kids developing ticks from watching a lot of videos of people with them.
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@DM-ur8vc People that were GUILTY. Almost everyone was proven to be involved on some level with the USSR in Hollywood that was brought before the committee. That was proven when it fell and the files were opened. I'm sorry but espionage against your country is a crime. Walt Disney testified on behalf of his animators because the Union heads were pressuring them to join the party and give them information or be barred from the Union which meant no job in entertainment ever again. Leona Horn was in the files. A lot like to point to Chaplin because he refused to return to the US. The narrative is it was because he was accused by the committee. The truth is it was because he was facing charges for human trafficking for having an underaged girl brought across state lines to him. I'm sure you can figure out for what. Edit: Walt is still called antisemitic and a sympathizer which was a smear from the Communist newspaper. That should show just how influential they really were. I'd suggest Razorfist's video Hollywood was Always Red. He cites the sources. This was also documented when Russia shared their files from that time period after the fall which exonerated McCarthy, who wasn't even involved in the committee.
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I don't even get teachers sharing their personal life with students in the first place. It's just weird.
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She never went anywhere. She's never been an A or even B list. She went right on touring.
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Me Too was always run by radicals as was BLM. The founders of BLM bragged about being trained Marxists. Me Too was to oust people in Hollywood to be replaced by activist women and it worked.
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@Foolsjoker "...the use of immigrants and homeless policies that some states are using to push their own problems onto other states simply to not have to deal with it" while simultaneously talking about unity. Immigration isn't a state issue. It's a federal one and when the federal government refuses to do its job and instead make it the problem of just a few states, those states have control over their own borders. You have a fundamental misconception of the role of government as outlined by the Constitution. No state works for the benefit of the federal government. The federal government works for the benefits of the states. If a state decides to make policies they get enjoy the consequences of those policies. So are you simultaneously saying that a state shouldn't share a burden created by the federal government with the rest of the states while also saying the states should share responsibilities for each other? Isn't that a benefit to the whole or does that only apply to certain things? You're doing what's called talking out of both sides of your mouth. Basically you only want things that benefit where you are while chastising someone else for wanting the same. Edit: Illegal immigration has been primarily a financial and resource burden for the southern states for decades. The states people like you like to sneer at for being poor. Now that policies that were overwhelmingly voted for by states who thought they'd never have to deal with it are getting just a slight taste of what it's really like, they're still not getting the bulk, you want to cry foul while claiming "we should work together for everyone's benefit". Well, taking some of that burden is exactly what you're claiming will benefit everyone so suck it up buttercup. Now that they're getting a taste of what it's like, they will vote for policies that support EVERYONE that's a citizen instead of calling people dealing with drastically reduced resources that benefits everyone else names.
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Russia wasn't capitalist. Well, briefly sort of. A system can't really be formed and solidified in 2 short very bloody years. There's a reason it was successful in overthrowing monarchies or dictatorships, but not a capitalist country. You're attempting to lecture others about ignoring previous history and claim they overthrew a capitalist country is hilarious. Edit: There's a reason they executed the royal family, including the children, even though they'd already given up power. It's not because it was capitalist.
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Since I graduated after the USSR files were opened I wondered how they taught it now. Still lying about it. While everyday people were accused by neighbors which was horrible, it wasn't widespread. The government inquiries were 100% over the target according to the files. Just like they taught during the broadcast of War of the Worlds there was mass panic. There wasn't. That's completely false. There were commercial breaks.
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