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Comments by "Debany Doombringer" (@debanydoombringer1385) on "The Rings Of Power - A Billion Dollar Nightmare" video.
@daggerquillgaming Next episode Galadriel will say her husband is dead. Before you try to claim something ignorant like "Maybe Celeborn is her 2nd husband", Elves don't do that. Because they are immortal, they love once and once only. One mate for eternity. When they both "die", they'll be reunited in Valinor or the other Elf can return to Valinor at any point and rejoin their spouse. Galadriel met Celeborn while at the court of the Maia in the 1st Age. They were married and then traveled to form their own kingdom. All of that is in the Silmarillion. The "vague" book you know nothing about. So if he's dead in the show, that means she already trained under the Maia and everything you're claiming "might, maybe, possibly" occur later, already did and the rest can never. The actors and showrunners have said they have made sure each female main character have "agency" which means they don't have a man influencing them and aren't married. People who know the lore know it's already been so messed up by this show it might as well nonexistent to it. Again, you can like it all you want. You don't get to demand and stomp your foot because people who know and love Tolkien's lore and world don't. This idea that if you like something, nobody can criticize it is ridiculous and childish. You're acting like a toddler told they can't have candy. Which is even more ridiculous because you're watching and enjoying the show which means you got your candy already.
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@daggerquillgaming Elves stop aging at around that age. You're commenting about things you know NOTHING about because you don't know the lore. There are no elderly looking Elves because they are immortal. They literally never die. Their body might expire, but they're returned to Valinor where they're resurrected. The 2nd Age is not vague. It's detailed in the Silmarillion which the showrunners said repeatedly that they referenced back to and had copies of on set for the actors to refer to. Jackson used everything Tolkien wrote as a reference even though he only had the rights to the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings trilogy. They are depicting an event from the Silmarillion that was mentioned in the appendices. The story of the Elf fighting the Bolrog was directly from the Silmarillion. You can like it, but don't you DARE tell people that know thus work inside and out that they are wrong when know nothing of it.
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I actually think that's the idea. I really believe they are intentionally making the good guys be bad and the bad guys sympathetic. That the good guys are really the ones who drove Sauron to be evil. To do that to Tolkien's work is disgusting.
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They weren't expecting this fandom though. They thought the backlash would die down after the first episodes were released like has happened with other shows. That their bot armies of 10s could offset us. They were wrong and it's been enjoyable watching even the mainstream critics turning against them.
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@AustinHHerrington You're version of Galadriel is completely incorrect. That's from the Tolkien's notes as he decided on the final version of the Silmarillion. He wrote 7 versions and published the one he wanted that is canon. According to you, all 7 versions are because he wrote them. Even though he never intended any but the one to be published.
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@isaacm2374 Haven't seen a one and I despise it for distorting Tolkien's world. As for it being canceled, that can't happen. They are contractually bound to 5 seasons. No matter what. That was the deal for their $ 250 million purchase.
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@arcanum3882 Agree. It far exceeded my expectations of just how bad it really was going to be and how much of the lore they were going to crap all over.
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The writing is awful. They use words common today that are never used in Tolkien's works. They attempt to sound profound, but it's gibberish. I've seen better soap opera dialogue and writing. Hell, half the time that's what it feels like. A bad soap opera. If you think this is good dialogue, try reading Tolkien's actual works. The difference is immediate. They've stolen lines and speeches from other, more modern day movies and been called out on it. "Give me the meat and give it to me raw" is not something Tolkien would ever right in the context it was given. It's taken directly from the movies where Gollum has killed rabbits and Sam is telling him to give them to him to prepare because he's concerned Gollum will poison them. There, it makes sense. In no way does someone not liking it interfere in your enjoyment. Yet you demand others conform to your poor taste and refrain from judging something they've seen differently than you, and then you're the one claiming someone else has a bias. Drinker isn't saying you have to agree. He's telling you his opinion, but to you he shouldn't dare have one.
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@trishdavidson9979 Good for you? How is anyone not liking it have any affect on your enjoyment? It doesn't. If you really read Tolkien and like this, then you're like Bezos and the showrunners. You enjoy something with zero understanding of why and what makes it special. You have read it, but you don't understand it. You proclaiming your enjoyment has no baring on my dislike of the desecration of Tolkien's works. You are a nobody on the internet saying something you have no way of proving. Someone nobody here knows in real life or has any reason to give a crap about what your opinion on anything is. Yet here you are, believing people should give a crap. That because you said it's good, they should ignore their own opinions and adopt yours. Enjoy the show, but stop acting like everyone else should to.
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