Comments by "Debany Doombringer" (@debanydoombringer1385) on "Sam Seder HUMILIATED On Jubilee, Christian ROASTS Him By Asking BASIC Moral Questions HES STUMPED" video.

@benjaminmay7328 It's a video he did on a writing he'd read that starts with "God is dead, and we killed him." About how it was more applicable today than even then and why. Pointing how modern day some Christian churches are removing Jesus's and God's teachings to be more welcoming and inclusive.
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@Wolfways Marriage was always tied to religion, so it always took place in front of some god. Religion started before civilization. You're trying to tie it to Christianity when it wasn't created by that religion. It was created by og religions that we wouldn't even know about today. We know this because tribal societies were encountered and are still encountering that have zero contact with the outside world, and marriage takes place in them and includes a religious ceremony. Since the first civilizations had religion and government tied together, that's how they became tied to government. That was the case until the 1780s and the US was created. It was that way for hundreds of thousands of years and still is in many civilizations today. So yes, marriage does involve god. The god of whatever the dominant religion is in your culture. Edit: The idea of separation of religion and government is very new and an experiment. Judging by how it's going in the West and importing religions against the dominant religion, I'd say it's a failed experiment. It appears by the results, tieing in all sects of one religion would have been the way to go rather than all religions. While I am a Jeffersonian on most things, it appears this is one he was wrong about. The federalist, which included Adams, said this would only work with a moral Christian country and it appears he was correct.
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No he didn't. The promt was gay marriage which it seems people like you are ignoring. By Sam's own statements and what he claims to base his beliefs on, he would be against it. It's not beneficial to society and it was not a law decided on democratically. Which is what Sam says laws and rules should be based on. Yet, Sam is 100% for it. Meaning he has basis for what should and shouldn't be allowed other than what the state currently says is. Which means while he's claiming the other guy would have been fine with keeping slavery, it's him that would hold that position at that time. Edit: If you're worldview is it's good because government says it is, you have no actual principles or beliefs. Which means you probably shouldn't debate people because you have no argument against their position.
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@Fernando_616 You're going to need to point out where Sam said any legitimate reason why gay marriage should be allowed, which was the promt, other than the government said so to say he looked good. The point of a debate, which this was, is to convince the audience why you have the better position. He didn't do that. The other guy gave legitimate and logical reasons why, but Sam couldn't because he doesn't know why other than the government said so. Even when he went to because majority supports isn't a good reason because the majority has supported horrible things like the mustache man. When asked if because a bad thing was supported by the majority he'd be fine with it, he said no contradicting himself because his reason why is because it's not acceptable now.
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@zimabluecascade Except that guy didn't once say he was a Christian nationalist or argued for it. Each had a prompt and that guy's was gay marriage. Even by Sam's own positions he'd be against it because it's not beneficial to society which he said that's what it should be based on. After saying democratically choosen laws. Which also means he'd be against it because it wasn't determined that way. That guy proved that by Sam's own ideals it shouldn't be a thing, but keep thinking he won. Edit: He did to him what Sam claimed he was doing which was hilarious.
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They can do that without being married. Everything you listed as a reason for it is just individual responsibilities and has nothing to do with responsibilities of a couple. Which is create a stable environment to raise children.
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Sam showed he couldn't answer the breakfast question because everything he believes is good is based on what someone else tells him is and it's locked in this exact moment in time. He doesn't understand hypotheticals outside what is currently acceptable by the people that tell him what is acceptable.
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Yet another person that doesn't have a clue about human history or development. Religion developed along side our evolution. There's never been a point in the evolution of modern humans that some type of religious beliefs weren't attached to. Every civilization was based around the religion of that group. It was in the government that formed. Meaning every law and rule was based on that religion. Our Constitution is based on Christianity. Our cultural foundations are based on Christianity. Our concept of right and wrong are based on Christianity. If you ever traveled outside of Western nations, you'd see the difference or even studied cultures that existed before it and their religions you'd know that. Your moral foundation comes from the cultural you're raised in which for Western cultures is from Christianity because Rome conquered and ruled those areas and instilled Christian beliefs into them.
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Maybe you shouldn't have made the choices you're living with the consequences of. You chose to take the route you did to achieve your dream. Nobody forced you to take the easy way rather than the hard way. It's not achieving your dream that's you're problem. It's how you went about it. Nobody's to blame but you that you didn't have a "plan". You're also admitting that was all you wanted which again, is on you.
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@25taylorkw WTF was that about. The first commentor is claiming you don't need religion to be moral. Raven didn't say anything about if you have a Christian moral foundation that makes you a Christian. It absolutely does not. The point is the culture he grew up on is where you're moral foundation comes from and if you grew up in the West, that's going to be Christian.
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@briancomstock7741 "Morals are genetic" has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. No, they're not. They're based on the culture. You clearly don't have children. If you did, you'd know you have to teach them right from wrong. Kids will bite. You have to teach them that hurting others is wrong. If it was genetic, you wouldn't have to do that. In some cultures that's not taught so they tend to be more violent for that reason. There would never have been human sacrifices, slavery, or witch hunts if what you're claiming was true.
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@25taylorkw That's still coming from a Christian foundation. You don't seem to understand you're not contradicting them. Actually, the Golden Rule doesn't do what you're claiming either. It's opposite the selfishness of human nature, so it doesn't appeal to it. You're basing everything you said on the culture you're in. In many cultures, the ethical foundation is simply group preference regardless of what that group is. For example, in most African cultures, only killing someone from your tribe is considered murder. Someone outside the tribe is considered less than so it's not wrong to harm them. This idea you have of empathy is also determined by your culture because biology as you call it is in group preference. It goes against everything you're claiming goes with biology. The Golden Rule is against in group preference which is an evolutionary survival instinct. It's also funny that you then go on to claim some ethics in Christianity goes against it, so we discard it when you're entire comment is about one such ethic. So we should discard it right? Edit: Pseudo intellectuals are so annoying. You know nothing about anthropology or evolutionary survival instincts while acting like you're an authority on it. You don't even know that's what you're talking about and instead call it biology which is the study of the physical bodies and has nothing to do with ethics or our instincts.
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