Comments by "Debany Doombringer" (@debanydoombringer1385) on "Ben Shapiro Runs MASSIVE SCAM! This Is An All Time Low For Daily Wire \u0026 Team!" video.

@GeekFam7 First of all, that's not how petitions work. Not for the government to take it into consideration. Online petitions are worthless to the government because anyone anywhere in the world can sign it. Real petitions require registered voter signatures. Ben would absolutely know that. He does say that it won't get him out, but claims it'll send a message? For what? Officers are employed by the state and local government. So it'll send the message the current administration won't tack on more charges? Trump's made that clear. It's a publicity stunt and to collect e- mails.
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It won't reduce his time. State and federal sentences are being served concurrently. That means his time spent in federal prison counts as time spent on the state sentence. If Ben claimed that, it's extremely dishonest. It will have zero bearing on the parol board which he's not even up for for another 10 years or so. Edit: Parol is usually at the halfway point of serving the sentence. The sentence is 22 years so he'll serve at least 11.
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Jeremy said he had federal civil rights charges. Which he pled guilty to. A pardon does absolutely nothing except cause problems for Trump. It doesn't reduce the time, it doesn't impact parol, it does nothing.
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Discussion on what? That discussion has been going on since the trial. What are his lawyers going to do? The appeal process is over. There's no new evidence or any evidence of judicial misconduct to warrant a new trial. Even if you're innocent, that's not actually a reason to set aside the verdict or order a new trial on appeal. I don't see the Democrat governor giving a pardon.
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@joshmccarty8800 No it doesn't. A federal appeal means nothing to a state judge. He's already been denied his appeals because there's no reason for one. An appeal is granted if there's new evidence that could change the outcome of the verdict or evidence there was a mess up in the process. None of that has occurred. Judges don't set aside jury verdicts often. There's an extremely high burden for that to be done and this case doesn't and never will meet it.
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No probation panel is going to grant him early release. They kept Manson in prison his entire life denying him probation every time he came up for it and he didn't cause mass riots all over the place. Ya'll are living in a fantasy land when it comes to this case. I believe the sentences are concurrent, which they usually are, so the time in federal prison counts as serving time for the state sentence. It changes nothing other than where he physically is. Edit: Also state prisoners can be held in federal prison at the request of the state if it's a high profile criminal or one needing high security.
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Which does nothing. He'll still serve the 22 years. The state and federal sentences are being served concurrently which means at the same time. Time served for either counts as time served for both. So he'd be moved to a state prison where he'd be in more danger.
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I'm sure that's part of it.
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It's been challenged. Was that information available during his trial? Yes. So it's not new evidence so it doesn't reach the burden for an appeal. If you don't understand the appeals process or court process it's usually best to keep things like that a question rather than presenting it as fact.
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 @TheLitRight Dear Lord ya'll are so ignorant of the system and how it functions. That was available and presented at trial. The jury didn't find it compelling enough to find not guilty.
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What did he misrepresent? A pardon does nothing except stir up trouble for Trump. It "sends a message" according to Ben for officers Trump can't do anything legally for because they're not under federal jurisdiction. Which Ben absolutely knows. An online petition would be immediately discarded by the government because it doesn't meet the requirements for one that's submitted to it. It has to be registered voters only. Online anyone in the world could sign and the government isn't bound to care what someone in Britain or Brazil think.
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Yes there is. The presidential pardon is for federal crimes because that's the jurisdiction that falls under him. The federal government can't interfere in state matters unless the state is violating federal law, to settle disputes between states, or if the state asks for assistance. That's in the Constitution. Edit: The decisions your looking for are regarding jurisdiction. Not pardons. A governor can't pardon someone charged in another state because it's not their jurisdiction which is the same reason a president can't for state charges. The crime was committed against the state government.
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He was on Tim Pool right before the election bragging about how organized the Democrat party is. How impressed he was that they were able to just appoint Kamala. That because of it they couldn't be taken over like the Republican party can. He totally hates Trump and is at best a neo con. Anybody impressed that a party can just appoint whoever the donors want isn't someone I care to listen to.
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@oza1302 This is an excellent topic to get emails from people they don't already have. They'll get the real loony conspiracy theorist with this one. People who wouldn't before because they don't trust Jews for example. There's a reason it's not attached to the Daily Wire on that site. They could have put it on their's but they didn't. This gets spread around online far away from them. A federal pardon does nothing for him. He won't get less time because they're being served concurrently. He will be moved to a state prison where it's more dangerous for him as the original comment states. So he's more likely to be removed, it's likely to stir up problems for Trump (who they can't stand), get them new emails from around the world because online making the petition complete useless to the government because they require signatures of registered voters only. Brilliant.
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Online petitions claiming to be for the government are so funny. Only people not family with the petition process do them or sign them. A petition to the government is required to have registered voter signatures only. An online petition will have people from all over the world on it meaning it's automatically rejected by the government. Groups that do them do get a load of email addresses though.
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