Comments by "gary K" (@garyK.45ACP) on "Tom Fitton: Trump ‘needs to protect the Constitution and pardon General Flynn’" video.

NO! Not until he WINS and buries the DOJ and this corrupt Judge. Stop suggesting we give this corrupt judge what he wants. He needs to WIN (he WILL win) and THEN be pardoned to prevent a corrupt future President/FBI/DOJ from coming at him again. The full Court will hear the case August 11. I think he will exonerated before labor day.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Policy dispute. You do not go to prison for that. If there was anything to prosecute, they would. I mean, YOU don't have to like it or agree with it. You can vote for Biden if you don't like it. Flynn WILL be exonerated. Judge Sullivan is only wasting time.
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@antea9055 "Due process" refers to a process. It does NOT refer ONLY to whatever process you think it does, due to your lack of knowledge. The Supreme Court CAN NOT simply inject itself into a lower court process. Should they inject themselves in a speeding ticket? NO! Because there is no legal question for them to address. There must be a legal question for them to address. For that you have to have a previous ruling. The Supreme Court MUST be petitioned to opine and that petition CAN NOT be submitted until the aggrieved petitioner HAS a ruling TO question. There HAS BEEN NO RULING...and THAT is what all this about. So far. The current question is IF Sullivan CAN inject himself as a prosecutor. Does Sullivan have "standing" as a judge, to do so. There IS NO QUESTION about Flynn's guilt, because he has not been convicted of anything. IF the Appeals Court RULES against Flynn on the current question the case will be returned to Sullivan to MAKE A RULING (he has not made a ruling yet). IF Sullivan rules against Flynn, then Flynn can appeal it to the Appeals Court AGAIN. Flynn is currently NOT Appealing a RULING, he is appealing Sullivan's position to MAKE A RULING. This is a LONG WAY from being petitioned to the Supreme Court. That is how it works. I do not hear you complaining when this process benefits, for example, President Trump...such as with the tax cases. That said...most likely the DC Appeals Court will find against Sullivan, because both the DC Appeals Court AND the Supreme Court have already ruled on this question. That does NOT prevent Sullivan from asking the question. My guess is Flynn will be exonerated before Labor Day. HOWEVER...the Appeals Court MAY decide to allow Sullivan to follow previous rulings and exonerate Flynn. They may say..."Let's see if he does what he should". AND give him specific instructions on what the precedents are. The ONE judge of the three judge panel that dissented said exactly that. Flynn is claiming in his petition that Sullivan has clearly demonstrated he will NOT follow precedent and should be overruled by the Appeals Court. Flynn SHOULD NOT BE PARDONED before he WINS (he WILL win) UNLESS...and ONLY UNLESS...Trump loses the election. IF Trump loses the election, then he should pardon Flynn before he leaves office.
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@trombone79 No one will prosecute. But that is NOT the question before the Court at this time. Sullivan has not ruled on the case. This case regards Flynn's Writ of Mandamus which requested the DC Circuit Court (Sullivan's "Boss") to FORCE Sullivan to rule in Flynn's favor. The three judge panel GRANTED the Writ and ORDERED Sullivan to dismiss the case, citing precedent in both the DC Circuit and the Supreme Court. Sullivan then asked for the case to be reheard by the full DC Appeals Court, "en Banc". The Court could have denied his request and ordered him to dismiss OR remove him from the case and assign it to another judge...but they didn't. They decided to hear his arguments en Banc. The dissenting Judge of the three judge panel was of the opinion that Sullivan should be allowed to rule and THEN Flynn could appeal the case IF the ruling was against him. The dissenting judge suggested that the Writ was premature. IF a majority of other judges agree, then the case goes BACK to Sullivan to rule. If Sullivan does not dismiss the case (he still could) THEN Flynn would have to wait for Sullivan's ruling and appeal THAT through the process. And YES, it could take a long time. And YES, that is Sullivans goal, to TAKE a long time and FORCE President Trump to pardon Flynn which would allow Democrats, forever, to say "Flynn is guilty", it would prevent the corruption at the DOJ and FBI from being adjudicated and it would prevent Flynn from having grounds to SUE the government. He will most likely LOSE that also as there is solid precedent to support the Writ of Mandamus. DO NOT PARDON FLYNN!!!!!! Be patient, he WILL WIN.
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@JenX_1973 He withdrew the plea. So he did not plead guilty. A guilty plea is NOT a confession.
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@bradcanning875 Please link to your source for the court CONVICTION of General Flynn. Once a plea is withdrawn, prior to it being ruled on by the judge, then it is up to the prosecutor to DECIDE if they want to prosecute. They don't. They dropped the case. If the case were no longer in the hands of the prosecutor, they would not be involved. They are. NONE of the scenarios you state are the question before the court. The Flynn petitions and the Writ are public information, you can read them. I'll wait for your link to the source citing Flynn's "conviction"
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@kevincarlson9184 It would appear that was set up. Pardoning him would prevent him from proving that. THAT is what Sullivan is trying to force Trump to do. The President should not do what Sullivan wants.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 So what? Don't like it? Don't vote for Trump. You weren't going to anyway. And you wouldn't vote for Trump if Flynn went to prison. Basically...YOU don't matter and YOU lose. You should be used to it by now. Trump 2020!
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Due process.
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@thewayofnoway The pleas were withdrawn before acceptance by the court, so there are no guilty pleas. Lying to the VP is not a crime. He could be fired for it (he was), but not be prosecuted. He was not charged with and did not plead guilty to "Lying to the VP" You're making stuff up. 🤣
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Did you vote for Trump in 2016?
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A person CAN be pardoned without ever being charged with a crime. I suggest Trump pardon Flynn AFTER he is exonerated to prevent any future corrupt administration from making up new charges.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 NOT a crime. He CAN do that. You don't like it. So what? Flynn WILL BE exonerated. Probably before Labor Day. Sullivan can delay. NOTHING else. Vote for Biden if you don't like it. (you would anyway). In short...YOU LOSE.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Most of life's disappointments are caused by unrealistic expectations. If you expect Flynn to be in prison, you will be disappointed.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 I am certain I am correct. I am not guessing. It has nothing to do with luck and it doesn't matter if he is a boy scout.
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@chrisbarbera9680 Not ALL of the judges on the DC Circuit are Democrats, though the majority are, it is true. The three judge panel ruled 2-1 in Flynn's favor though only one of them was a "Republican". The problem for Sullivan is that BOTH the DC circuit AND the US Supreme Court have recent decisions on the exact question posed by Sullivan that would be in Flynn's favor. The decision was 9-0 in the case of the Supreme Court. Those precedents were used in the decision to grant Flynn's request for the Writ of Mandamus. In light of that, it was surprising the DC Circuit agreed to hear the case en Banc, though that does not mean the ruling will be in his favor, only that they agreed to let him argue it. I do not think he will win his argument. The arguments are set for August 11. I believe Flynn will be exonerated before Labor Day
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@chrisbarbera9680 All that would be well and good if Flynn were being tried for a crime. he isn't. There is no question of evidence of guilt or innocence before the court. Like many, (most) you misunderstand the proceeding. Flynn withdrew his guilty plea. There IS NO GUILTY PLEA. The government has declined to prosecute him. There IS NO PROSECUTION. There IS NO NEED for him to prove innocence. He is not even charged with a crime! Upon his withdrawal of the plea and the gov't declining to prosecute, the case should have been dismissed. The Judge (part of the cabal, you are correct) did not dismiss the case. The Judge did nothing and even suggested that he, the Judge, would prosecute Flynn! Flynn then filed a "Writ of Mandamus" to ask a superior court (DC Court of Appeals) to ORDER Sullivan to dismiss the case. Flynn "went over the head" of Sullivan to his "boss". The 3 judge panel of the DC Circuit granted the Writ and ORDERED Sullivan to dismiss the case. He did not. Instead he filed a motion for the Writ to be heard by the full DC Circuit. His motion was granted. There IS NO QUESTION if Flynn is innocent. That is not the purpose of the argument. He is not even being prosecuted or charged with a crime. Flynn has NEVER BEEN CHARGED with a crime. He plead guilty to a crime, the withdrew the plea before the plea was accepted by the court. THERE IS NO GUILTY PLEA! (guilty pleas are never "confessions" in any case). The question before the court is whether the Judge, ON HIS OWN, can proceed with a prosecution...without a prosecutor! He cannot. The role of prosecution lies in the Executive branch, the DOJ, not in the Judicial branch. Prosecution is an Article II power, NOT an Article III power, and the Constitution is clear on separation of powers. Both the DC Circuit and the Supreme Court have ruled that Judges CAN NOT do that. Again, this is a MOVE, a delaying tactic, by Sullivan. Nothing more. Regardless of the DC Circuit's political bent, it is inconceivable a majority of them would agree that Sullivan can prosecute a case on his own. Even the dissenting Judge of the three judge panel agreed to that. That Judge wanted to WAIT to allow Sullivan to issue the dismissal. That Judge felt a Writ of Mandamus was premature. But "Justice delayed is Justice denied" is a legal precedent. I sincerely doubt the majority of the court will decide "Let's see what he will do" when he has clearly shown in his actions his intent to delay justice. This court hearing is not even about Flynn, per se, it is about a Judge's role in the case.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 I don't deny that. Never did. Please copy and paste where I said General Flynn did not lie to the VP. I'll wait here. I said...it doesn't matter. It doesn't. FLYNN LIED TO THE VP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many times do I need to say it? FLYNN LIED TO THE VP!!!!!!!!!! How's that? Is twice enough? SO WHAT? Please cite the statue, the specific US Code, that makes it a CRIME to lie to the VP. I'll wait here. The penalty for lying to the VP is, at most, termination. At the least it would be a verbal reprimand. They could have made him stand in the corner for an hour, face the wall, OR write on the chalkboard 100 times..."I will not lie to the VP" but, Flynn was terminated. Fired! Case closed. When will YOU realize the case before the DC Circuit Court of Appeals is NOT about Flynn? It is about Judge Sullivan. Flynn WILL BE exonerated. The Obama DOJ and FBI will be made to look corrupt. YOU don't like it. SO WHAT? Vote for Biden is you don't like it. You would have anyway. YOU LOSE. TRUMP and Flynn win. But you are used to that by now.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Flynn lied to the VP. Cite the statute, US Code, that lying to the VP violates. I'm waiting....
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Waiting...
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 No answer...
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Yes, correct. He lied to the VP, was fired for that and has not been charged with lying to the FBI. Finally, you got it right. Morals are not LAWS, It was immoral for Flynn to lie to the VP. He was punished for that. Flynn was fired for lying to the VP. He has NOT been charged with lying to the FBI. He withdrew his plea, therefore, the plea DOES NOT EXIST. The DOJ has declined to prosecute. They have drafted a dismissal order. There are -0- criminal charges pending against Flynn at this time. The court case now is NOT about Flynn, it is about the powers of the Judge. YOU LOSE. YOU don't like it. SO WHAT?! Waiting for the "Lying to the VP Statute" to be cited by you.
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Waiting...
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No answer...
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 I hope to see your reaction when Flynn is exonerated and the FBI agents that did this to him are charged with a crime. THAT will be precious!
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Waiting for you to post the statute...
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Still waiting...
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Cite the "Lying to VP statute", please.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 I don't need a legal document to explain morals. I need legal documents to charge someone with a CRIME, prosecute them and send them to prison. Morals? Fire him. Already done. BTW...as for morals, he could be forgiven and re-hired, you know, if he says he's sorry and the VP forgives him. THAT's "morals" You want him charged with a crime for lying to the VP? Cite the statute. Waiting....
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 No answer on the statute about lying to the VP. Lying to the VP proves he lied to the VP. Lying to the FBI about material evidence in a legitimate investigation IS illegal. He is not charged with that. Parking with your left wheels to curb is illegal. He is not charged with that. Stealing candy bars is illegal. He is not charged with that. He is NOT charged with ANY CRIME. You cannot go to prison if you are not charged with a crime, regardless of what political party you support. I do not want him to be pardoned. Have you read anything I wrote? He SHOULD NOT BE PARDONED. I DO NOT WANT TRUMP TO PARDON HIM. I want Judge Sullivan to be FORCED to dismiss the case against him. That will happen before the end of this month. I'm "part of the problem"? So what? Your mother wears army boots! 😋 🤣
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 What I admit or not is irrelevant. Flynn is NOT CHARGED with lying to the FBI. Period. There are no criminal charges against Flynn. YOU keep changing your story. I never do. You said lying to FBI, then lying to VP, then "morals"...make up your mind! But even less relevant than what I "admit" is what YOU think about it. The best thing we can say about your opinion of all this is...SO WHAT? There ARE NO CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST FLYNN. None. Trump 2020!!!!!!!
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 It will be. There are no charges pending against him.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Oh, please. Spoil it. Please tell me the statute that Flynn violated when he lied to the VP. US Code Chapter, Section and Paragraph.... I'll wait.
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@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Had a chance to read the ruling. I am guessing you did not. As I had stated, (see comments above) there was the possibility that the Circuit Court MAY return the case to the Federal Judge on the grounds that the Writ of Mandamus was premature. And that is what they did. NO WHERE has the Appeals Court stated that the case against Flynn should NOT be dismissed, but rather that it should be dismissed by the District Judge (Sullivan) and IF he does not do so, THEN the Circuit Court should issue a Writ of Mandamus. One of the remarkable things about the Writ in this case, is that it WAS issued prior to a ruling by the Federal District Court. It was done so on the belief that due to Sullivan's statements and actions that he would not do so. The full Appellate Court says: "Let's wait and see what he does" Now Sullivan can play his game a little longer. He will eventually have to rule, and if he fails to dismiss the case, THEN the Appeals Court will do so. As I noted many times, this action was NOT about Flynn, it was about Sullivan. Morals are NOT Statutes. There IS NO CRIME without a violation of a statute. Flynn was FIRED for his MORAL misbehavior in his job...that is the usual punishment for such things. Remember that the purpose of this action by Sullivan is an effort to provoke Trump to issue a pardon for Flynn. If Trump did that, the DOJ and FBI are off the hook and the Democrats can forever say "Flynn was guilty". Sullivan is attempting to protect the Obama appointees of the DOJ and FBI. Trump will not pardon Flynn at this time. The case is settled. The guilty plea has been withdrawn, the charges have been dropped, there are no pending charges against Flynn. The case WILL be dismissed. Flynn is not in jail, Flynn has pro bono legal representation from an excellent attorney. Flynn can wait. Trump can wait.
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@thewayofnoway Oh...and I'm not guessing.
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Sullivan has NOT committed any crime. So far he is using his prerogative to challenge a Court Order. IF the full DC Circuit says he must dismiss, and he doesn't, THEN he could be held in contempt and that COULD result in a jail sentence. Most likely, the DC Circuit would order him off the case and replace him with a judge that WOULD follow the order. The case being "rehashed" is NOT Flynn's case, it is the Writ of Mandamus ordering Judge Sullivan to dismiss Flynn's case. The question before the court is NOT about Flynn, it is about Sullivan.
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Why?
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