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1. Why defeat Modi in the first place.? Defeating Modi (or any HOG/Government can not be an aim of the opposition). There is a Nation to be governed.
2. I do not suppose that economy is an issue as it is being handled fairly well in the obtaining circumstances.
3. The reports are that Indian foreign policy has placed it in a very comfortable position among the comity of Nations.
4. One can’t fault the administration too much (some failures/mistakes are always part of any governance….one has to only look at 75 years of Independent India to realize that) in general matters of governance and policies.
5. Handling of security has NOT weakened, given the long history of long unresolved and nebulous Northern borders.
6. If it is politics…here is a take. The Hindutva or rather “anti-Hindutva” and” secular” are no more relevant in Indian politics. The refrain is if political parties can be parochial (TMC, SS, DMK, TRS etc..), religion based (Muslim leagues, Akali etc..), Clan based (Yadavs, Gujjars etc.) and Dalit based (BSP etc.) or Dynastic (INC,SS, Yadavs, DMK, TC etc..) why can’t there be a party which is “Hindu” based? (I have my own take on this “Hindu” myth). What is the difference in any of these approaches? In electoral democracies every political party will attempt to create a strong faithful voter base. Probably BJP is doing just that. (BTW “Hindus” in droves are not blindly flocking to BJP ). THAT is a natural process in democracy. The perception of exclusion is just because the majority are not minority!!! That is also natural. In such an environment it is difficult to separate the wrong from the right in Indian politics – like it or not. And is that not part of diversity too? Can you have diversity with the exclusion of the majority?
Tail piece. Before anything, the opposition has to convince “we the people” that they will do a better job for the Nation. So just a defeat will surely not “deliver “ the Nation from “evil”.
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Whether it be Ashokan, Nehruvian, Gandhian( not the Mahatma), Modian(? In the future) the Indian state has to do what it must to correct a mistake as soon as it is identified. By that time Ashokas, Guptas, Mauryas, Mughals, Marathas, British, Nehrus, Gandhi’s etc. would have already enjoyed their place in the Sun and may be irrelevant as administrators in the scenarios obtaining in the present. While we respect history we have to move on.
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Is the General suggesting that Operational orders and debriefing of operations be in the public domain? As it is there is enough in the public domain for even the uninitiated to surmise the situation. Should not the Nation leave some room for other actions like diplomacy and negotiations? Or is the General on to some agenda other than a winning case for India? E.g. will telling China in public ”look here, I have given you a bloody nose, now get back” work? Or does he, who was calling the shots in these areas as an Army Commander not long ago, suppose holding a public inquiry on all border skirmishes, within days, will help the military (I mean own military, not the enemy’s). I know many Indians, who have their own ideas of free speech and democracy etc, will applaud this General. But Defence, battles and wars are handled differently than Bollywood scandals. I am sure the General knows it too. But alas!
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Anything that happens anywhere in the world, you have a lesson for India… agreed learning is a continuous process. But let us not stretch it
Let us get this right, Shekhar
In any which way, India is NOT Bangladesh; India is also not the USA, China, Singapore or any European nation. India is India with its own unique characteristics.
India, as it is doing since the past couple of decades, has to cut its own path.
We the people are the key. There is a famous dialogue by RajniKant, the Tamil super star, (“En Vazhi, Thani Vazhi”) meaning my path is my own
Enjoy, smile, laugh
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Commendable knowledge on hockey. In the 1960s, it was 1 goal keeper, 2 backs (left &right), 3 in half line (left, centre, right), 5 forwards - left out, left in, centre forward, right in, right out.
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The actual normal irritants of democracy…SG, give a thought to the Nation…democracy is not synonymous with chaos I f RG or anybody has a half the acumen of Modi (with all his warts) India will be well served, alright… But… is there?
“Democracy” is “back” in India. We will be able to witness the dance of democracy in social media and on the streets with false narratives, out of context comments, protests, hartals, road blocks (Rasta roko), bandhs, constant disruptions in parliamentary proceedings etc.
Everything except policies, progress, development, economy, reforms etc. will be discussed in the media – all media. The West and all those who want India to stagnate will laugh all the way to the bank.
Will India go back in time to be a subservient state? You got a ring side view to season 3 of the “India” series… Get your dinks, snacks and plonk on the sofa in front of your TV.
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Yes, the BJP is playing its cards to implement strategies in electoral politics. The Hindutva or rather “anti-Hindutva” and” secular” are no more trump cards for the opposition parties. The refrain is if political parties can be parochial (TMC, SS, DMK, TRS etc..), religion based (Muslim leagues, Akali etc..), Clan based (Yadavs, Gujjars etc.) and Dalit based (BSP etc.) or Dynastic (INC,SS, Yadavs, DMK, TRS etc..) why can’t there be a party which is “Hindu” based? What is the difference in any of these approaches? In electoral democracies every political party will attempt to create a strong faithful voter base. THAT is a natural process. In such an environment it is difficult to separate the wrong from the right in politics.
Tailpiece: There never was, is or will be a Utopia (Ramrajya).The electorate has realized that Governance is all about the Nation to deliver Roti, Kapda and Makkan to its people. All else are distractions. Economy and development (Ease of living) will be key. In order to further preserve Indian democracy, the opposition parties have to change tactics and strategies. We fervently hope that they will do it. Welcome to the changing face of Indian politics.
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A unique presentation by The Print (thanks SG) which throws light on major fault lines in Indian Defence strategies.
It is an indisputable fact that Pakistan is one of the two – the other being China – major adversaries of India. Whereas talks and diplomacy are ways to diffuse potentially explosive situations and overcome adversaries, one can win in these parleys only from a position of strength – meaning, to have a potent and deadly Armed Forces. While in Pakistan and China, with whom we have long borders of varied terrain and climatic conditions, the Armed Forces have a great say in matters of National security, unfortunately we cannot say the same of our great Nation. Since more than a couple of decades back, our senior military leaders are perceived to be administratively ( provide necessary equipment, keep the morale of the Forces up, not dilute dignity etc…., so essential to face adversities) weak.
Tailpiece: Are we (the people, the legislature, the governments, the executives and the judiciary) as a Nation taking our Armed Forces for granted? Just remember no other democracy except India has such vast and varied land & sea borders and air spaces to guard in order to preserve the sovereignty. The sooner the Nation wakes up to these facts the safer our future generations will be.
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It is time ALL politicians realize that today’s Indian does not learn about their political and other leaders from what politicians talk about them. Original materials and contact information, as the case maybe depending on antiquity of leaders, is authentically gathered from various other reliable sources. It is also time that our politicians stop talking about themselves and discuss, development, progress, education, skill,development, employment, amenities, economy, security and such matters that matter to us. We want an erudite opposition.
Tailpiece: Politicians will come and go, the Nation and its people,are forever.
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Is it a gift? For who? As a veteran journalist, do you really believe that this disQ of Mr RG, will unite the opposition to take India forward in economy, diplomatic, Defence, technology and development in all areas? Do you really believe that? Do you expect the Nation to believe that, Ms Jyoti?
Tailpiece: India today wants roti, kapda, makkan and a lot of self respect. A pseudo combination of opportunistic political partiies can’t deliver that. Oh yes, democracy under threat? Really…. What is new now that was not there in all these 75 years after Independence to threaten democracy? Maybe, you mean some parties, besides the communists, seeking foreign help to return to power. Yes, THAT, I agree, is a real threat to democracy in India.
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Lucid analysis. The poll outcome in Karnataka has also established beyond any doubt.
1. That democracy is very well alive and kicking in India.
2. Both the electoral process and the voting machines function effectively and truthfully.
Tailpiece: We in Karnataka, look forward to efficient administration in public services, which has been poorly managed for at least the last two decades. And ah! Polarization in INDIAN POLITICS - Dalit party, Muslim leagues, Akalis, caste based parties, parochial - DMK, AIADMK, TMC, Telangana congress, YSR congress , LOK Dal, Gomantak, Shiv Sena - has existed for decades. Is the media trying to give a new flavor to polarization? Is that a right approach?just asking.
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Lucid analysis. The poll outcome in Karnataka has also established beyond any doubt.
1. That democracy is very well alive and kicking in India.
2. Both the electoral process and the voting machines function effectively and truthfully.
Tailpiece: We in Karnataka, look forward to efficient administration in public services, which has been poorly managed for at least the last two decades. And ah! Polarization in INDIAN POLITICS - Dalit party, Muslim leagues, Akalis, caste based parties, parochial - DMK, AIADMK, TMC, Telangana congress, YSR congress , LOK Dal, Gomantak, Shiv Sena - has existed for decades. Is the media trying to give a new flavor to polarization? Is that a right approach?just asking.
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There is a lot for farmers in the new laws. The present system of trade of farm produce is a proven failure, pan India.
A myopic and political approach to the issue is self defeating. In a large country as India looking at any single factor in isolation is short sightedness; an entire orchestra needs to be put together to create a symphony.
The Indian Farmer enjoys the following
1. Free electricity
2. Free water
3. Free /subsidised fertiliser
4. No income tax from farm income
5. Subsidised ration through PDS
6. Direct income transfer
7. Freedom to sell to anybody, anywhere, any time (new laws)
8. Freedom from essential commodity tag
9. Writing off of loans
10. Easy loans
11. Free / subsidized cooking gas
These farmers are the only producers (for argument’s sake manufacturers, services sector, dairy sector, farmers of perishable crops etc. are also producers) who is assured of a fixed price (MSP) for some of their produce. It is recorded that even then he does not get what is due to him as he does not have the freedom to directly and freely interact with the market. For instance, there is no MSP for eggs, milk, milk products, perishables (vegetables and fruits) et al.
Hence for a common Indian it is beyond comprehension why he can’t get direct and free access to all markets anywhere. Some trepidation is natural while migrating from one system to another. A pragmatic approach for long term benefits have to be considered, rather than make it a political battle ground which benefits none.
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An erudite analysis. Way to go.
My two bit...
Talks and diplomacy are ways to diffuse potentially explosive situations and overcome adversaries; one can win in these parleys only from a position of strength – meaning, to have a potent and deadly Armed Forces. Unfortunately, even while attempting at catch up, the truth is that we are lagging behind for the size of the conventional borders we have.
China has built an invisible twenty-first century wall, surpassed only by N’ Korea, around the Nation. I had the occasion to speak with some Chinese professionals while I was in the USA. It seemed to me that they either were unaware of a lot that is happening within China or they were reluctant to say it. I suspect it is the former, else the Americans would have elicited all information. It could also be that the Americans know exactly what is happening within China and are incapable of opposing them or they deliberately avoid doing it in deference to the economy. Either way as of now it seems to be a win-win situation for China. The border pinpricks (with names like Depsang, Pangog etc…) are just that…. pin pricks. China can't achieve much more there. They use LAC as a smoke screen. The larger aim is “economic colonization”. We need to continue to wage an all out war against that.
Tail piece: China practices autocracy within and liberal democracy outside the country. It seems to be paying off. The rest of the world has to come up with a brand new ‘weapon’ (tactics, coalition, economic offensive – whatever) to tackle the rise of China. Unless…. China implodes from within (is it happening?). Elementary, Dr. Watson.
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On my way from the airport on 26 Dec 2020, after spending over an in the USA, and seeing the plight of NY area in person, I was appalled by how the people in our country were taking it easy. It was as if nothing had changed since I left India in September 2019. All shops open. 50% were not wearing a mask, 30% were wearing it on their chin. Later in the week, out to buy rations, when I asked my vegetable shop fellow why he was not wearing a mask, he replied “Corona has gone, so why wear a mask?”. It was not as if the administration had said so. Because, on the same day while we were driving in our own vehicle, with closed windows and ac on, my wife and I were fined Rs 350/- for not wearing masks inside the car – I was told that it was mandatory.
Tailpiece: The problem in our country is not the rules. It is the implementation of the rules by an inadequate, overworked police and paramilitary on a people whose standards self-discipline is abysmal. Let us admit it and strive to improve. I request the media too to highlight this aspect. This is not a cricket match; statistics in a pandemic are just that; just some numbers. Get real
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I wonder, if it is time for India to caste away castes and tell people to go out and vote rather than go out and cast(e) their votes. I also wonder whether it is time for We The People to reject fragmented politics in India. I find that there is no meaningful discussions on these aspects in the media, for fear or sustenance or whatever. For instance, though SG has talked sense, it propagates more intolerance and is propagating divisive thoughts. Nobody is rejecting such commentaries. I again wonder why? These are thoughts expressed briefly. The subject is vast and begs for widespread discussions.
Tailpiece: A view is that the reservation policies as exists today, mostly introduced with votes and power in mind, does more harm than good for those who are to benefit from them. Also, the reservation policies creates a divide where injustice is dispensed to a section of the society for something perceived to have been done by people many generations ago. While wealth can be redistributed, redistribution of justice is undemocratic and, if I may, unjustified!
Disclaimer: I am for empowerment for the all those disadvantaged sections of society. But actions for that have to be commensurate with the aim and not drive by an agenda to seek votes and power. Media should also realise this.
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Again a very relevant topic handled intelligently with maturity. My take…
Indian politics.The Hindutva or rather “anti-Hindutva” and” secular” are no more relevant in Indian politics. The refrain is if political parties can be parochial (TMC, SS, DMK, TRS etc..), religion based (Muslim leagues, Akali etc..), Clan based (Yadavs, Gujjars etc.) and Dalit based (BSP etc.) or Dynastic (INC,SS, Yadavs, DMK, TC etc..) why can’t there be a party which is “Hindu” based? (I have my own take on this “Hindu” myth). What is the difference in any of these approaches? In electoral democracies every political party will attempt to create a strong faithful voter base. Probably BJP is doing just that. (BTW “Hindus” in droves are not blindly flocking to BJP ). THAT is a natural process in democracy. The perception of exclusion is just because the majority are not minority!!! That is also natural. In such an environment it is difficult to separate the wrong from the right in Indian politics – like it or not. And is that not part of diversity too? Can you have diversity with the exclusion of the majority?
Tailpiece: There never was, is or will be a Utopia (Ramrajya).The electorate has realized that Governance is all about the Nation to deliver Roti, Kapda and Makkan to its people. All else are distractions. Economy and development (Ease of living) will be key. In order to further preserve Indian democracy, the opposition parties have to change tactics and strategies. We fervently hope that they will do it. Welcome to the changing face of Indian politics.
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Lucid analysis. The poll outcome in Karnataka has also established beyond any doubt.
1. That democracy is very well alive and kicking in India.
2. Both the electoral process and the voting machines function effectively and truthfully.
Tailpiece: We in Karnataka, look forward to efficient administration in public services, which has been poorly managed for at least the last two decades. And ah! Polarization in INDIAN POLITICS - Dalit party, Muslim leagues, Akalis, caste based parties, parochial - DMK, AIADMK, TMC, Telangana congress, YSR congress , LOK Dal, Gomantak, Shiv Sena - has existed for decades. Is the media trying to give a new flavor to polarization? Is that a right approach?just asking.
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DK, an extract from a recent article of mine
Here is a brief on all important political parties in India and their voter bases (in brackets): BJP (religion), Shiv sena (religion, dynasty), INC (Muslims(religion)), dynasty), Muslim Leagues(religion), Akali (religion), SP (clan, dynasty), BSP (Dalits), DMK, AIDMK (Dravidian Identity, parochial.), - JD(U), YSR Congress, TMC, Biju JD, are all parochial. AAP is a relatively new party and the Left as an ideology is almost extinct in India. Only a couple of parties from these have a national identity, so essential to grow, develop and be counted in the elite Nations of the world.
All parties are obviously pursing diverse politics by cozying up to their respective voter bases. None of these parties are really “secular” unless “secular” refers to only wooing Muslims. So, secularism falls flat on its face even before Indian politics is discussed. Gaining and staying in power is the ultimate aim of all political dispositions. Except for two, the BJP and INC, no party can boast of a real national presence. While regional parties come to power in the federal states with a parochial agenda, it has always been a worry for India in the past few decades as to who will rule at the Centre.
“It is time we Indians, stopped fooling ourselves with this misplaced sense of secularism. Except pity, all other emotions including tolerance are a two-way traffic, unless as they say one wants to “play politics”. But then on the final count in India, as elsewhere in democracies, politics is a game ultimately played with people’s emotions. The Nation does not progress on emotions. The delivery of progress and development to the people is the only long-term sustaining factor. Yet in a diverse and very big democracy like India, the Nation has to have an emotive rallying point. initiated by a majority of like minded people and carried by all citizens. A simplistic example is the way the nation is moved by cricket. For one of the only surviving ancient civilizations like India, falling back on the still valued ideals and ideas of those times is in no way anti “secular”, if it can unite a nation with a bit of tolerance and understanding from the “minority”, so to speak. “
Tailpiece: Again, I say… Leave I N C to professionals
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True. Well presented and required. But…
Whether it is Nationalism, cultural appropriation or attacking the sentiments etc., “We the people” are at one end of it all. We must not demean the intellect of our people to decide for themselves what is right and what is not.
Propaganda, appropriations, advertisements, coercion, blackmail, appeasements, concessions etc. have been part of Indian politics and palace intrigues for millennia. At the end of the day, the public, I suppose are aware enough to make their own decisions.
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Good analysis.
Yes, the BJP is playing its cards to implement strategies in electoral politics. The Hindutva or rather “anti-Hindutva” and” secular” are no more trump cards for the opposition parties. The refrain is if political parties can be parochial (TMC, SS, DMK, TRS etc..), religion based (Muslim leagues, Akali etc..), Clan based (Yadavs, Gujjars etc.) and Dalit based (BSP etc.) or Dynastic (INC,SS, Yadavs, DMK, TRS etc..) why can’t there be a party which is “Hindu” based? What is the difference in any of these approaches? In electoral democracies every political party will attempt to create a strong faithful voter base. THAT is a natural process. In such an environment it is difficult to separate the wrong from the right in politics.
Tailpiece: There never was, is or will be a Utopia (Ramrajya).The electorate has realized that Governance is all about the Nation to deliver Roti, Kapda and Makkan to its people. All else are distractions. Economy and development (Ease of living) will be key. In order to further preserve Indian democracy, the opposition parties have to change tactics and strategies. We fervently hope that they will do it. Welcome to the changing face of Indian politics.
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The problem is with everybody else except the SELF - right? We can never confront any PANDEMIC by looking only elsewhere for faults.
On my way from the airport on 26 Dec 2020, after spending over an in the USA, and seeing the plight of NY area in person, I was appalled by how the people in our country were taking it easy. It was as if nothing had changed since I left India in September 2019. All shops open. 50% were not wearing a mask, 30% were wearing it on their chin. Later in the week, out to buy rations, when I asked my vegetable shop fellow why he was not wearing a mask, he replied “Corona has gone, so why wear a mask?”. It was not as if the administration had said so. Because, on the same day while we were driving in our own vehicle, with closed windows and ac on, my wife and I were fined Rs 350/- for not wearing masks inside the car – I was told that it was mandatory.
Tailpiece: The problem in our country is not the rules. It is the implementation of the rules by an inadequate, overworked police and paramilitary on a people whose standards self-discipline is abysmal. Let us admit it and strive to improve. I request the media too to highlight this aspect.
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This thing about Gandhiji, ahimsa, nonviolence, Indian independence etc. has intrigued me since my school days. I have yet not been able to comprehend that showing the other cheek when you get slapped on one, is a nonviolent act. It actually invites more violence. The World, (who is the “world”?) celebrates Gandhiji’s nonviolence, but I still am dumb and miss the point. Have those who talk of Gandhiji’s nonviolence, “ideals” and eulogize Gandhiji, especially those from the Western Nations, really abjured violence? How has the pursuit of this concept of ahimsa and nonviolence helped India’s progress? Just saying niceties in diplomatic parleys is not the same thing as doing ii that way. Maybe, I am missing a lot somewhere. I will keep looking.
Tailpiece: It is a moot point whether the British left India because of Gandhiji or they left the way they departed, because of Gandhiji. There is an old saying in Malayalam, loosely translated reads like “You can’t subdue a raging bull (enemy) by whispering the Vedas into its ears”
Disclaimer: No Indian who had thoughts of independence in the decades before 1947, is irrelevant. This is only a point of view and I am not going to go to the end of the Earth arguing for it; to each her own.
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What is happening now, incursions and excursions et al, between India and China has happened many times earlier; it is just that this time because of technology and increase in international interest on China, the game is being played out louder in the media.
The fact is, nothing about LAC has really changed since 1947, as the exact line of LAC has never been agreed by the two parties. Using this as an excuse, China often tries to grab unoccupied territories (patrolled by both etc…) wherever possible and whenever it suits them, along the LAC. The primary intend is nothing more than to keep India on a leash and ensure it is not a competition in South Asia. It is also sad that two Nations, even after wars and lengthy talks, have not been able to resolve it for decades. This happens when one or both parties do not want a resolution. It is abundantly clear here as to who does not want the issue resolved. It is fallacious to expect that, this issue will get resolved any time soon. China has to be brought to the negotiating table, hopefully one day in the near future and define the IB (not LAC). It is imperative that we maintain a strong Defence Force and better strategic stance (not backing down) when we go to the negotiating table,
China will win the day, if we as a Nation divert most of our energies here rather than on the economic and societal issues which are more fundamental and enduring to a better future for India. Unfortunately in a geo-political polity we can’t chose our neighbours.
Like Snehesh (The Print) often says, War is not a solution while it can extend the problem.
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When the media, opposition, "experts", activists and about everybody (including here) repeatedly say "Modi" instead of "GoI", do we take it that 'We the people" are so obsessed with personalities that we prefer dictatorship over democracy. I make the statement, not in defence of any INDIVIDUAL, I make the statement in defence of democracy... Media....please...., opposition please, “Experts” please, activists please, opinion writers please – do the right thing for the Nation
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@ibadurrehman5764 You are absolutely right Ibadur. Aurangzeb, Tipu etc… were KINGS. But then in my school days, about more half a century ago, it was them who were in our text books and not leaders like Savarkar, Balgangadhar T, Sardar Patel etc. THAT was the point I am making, with malice to none. Did we have our priorities right then? We need not have glorified our errant “Kings”. Also, we should also included and laid empanadas on the life and works of great Indian fighters like Kunjali marikkar, Azad, Patel, Savarkar etc…
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A good and fresh approach. But…
Modi vs Who? Unfortunately the Q itself, DK, is misleading. We as an electorate must discuss policies, development, progress, jobs, economy, security etc. etc. Instead we discuss all those aspects like veils, face covering, charisma (important though), caste, religion, parochialism, language and such trivial which do not bring food on the table. The electorate too fall for the ruse and vote emotionally rather than with the head. Unfortunate. There just are no experts, media or any social leader of standing who try to educate the public on such matters. None I have seen in fifty years. To give it to this government, in the past few years there has been an effort at more discussions in the public on policies etc But woefully inadequate to reach the masses.
Tailpiece: Man to man (or woman) give the name of one person who has been in politics for life, A CM of a state for more than 14 years continuously and a PM of India for 10 years under age around 70years.
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If would be nice if Mr. NK could tell us with past, present and future data including economy, progressive policies, development, trade, etc.. etc.. As a senior leader, we expect some erudite comments from Mr NK. As a statesman Mr. NK is expected to highlight the achievements of all Governments too. This is not in Defence of anybody, every Government will have failings and setbacks as Mr. NK has repeatedly experienced in Bihar.
Tailpiece: It is for senior leaders like Mr. NK, to show the way to better political language, essence, truthfulness, conviction and such qualities in public life. Winning elections, by opportunistic alliances is neither good governance or sincerity of purpose towards the electorate. Hope Mr. NK reads this message from a citizen.
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I disagree totally though respect the right of this media person to offer his views though skewed. Comparing India with Britain is preposterous. The culture, societal set up, diversity, history, etc. etc. preclude any comparison. Governance aspects in Britain albeit with lesser people and immensely more resources obviously does not reflect in the wellbeing of its people. It is obvious with the lot of discontentment we see among the common people there. A Wimbledon, Lords or EPL does not reflect the reality either from within or without. For lessons on political parties in a democrAcy, there is more than one party in India from who a majority of other parties can learn. Ah, then… a diverse country like India will require leaders not in the mould of Majors, Browns, Camerons, Mays, Sunaks or Johnsons!
Tail piece: India has a unique character demographically, culturally, geographically, economically, historically and politically among other aspects.
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My 2bit on why the INDI alliance, whose stated aim is not to win to rule but to defeat the BJP, is a nonstarter.
The possible constituents are: -
All political parties cultivate voter bases – Shiv sena, INC (Muslims, dynasty), Akali, Yadavs, BSP (dalit), JD(U), YSR,. TMC, Biju JD, (all parochial) etc.
All the above parties are obviously pursuing diverse politics voic0ing “secular” as only wooing Muslims only because they oppose BJP. It is obvious no one party above will want the other party to dominate. Also as brought out in the discussion, the realization has dawned that hitching a ride with INC will weaken the mostly regional parties in the coalition.
One other example why this is an alliance of divergent views…
As political parties DMK is no different from BJP.
1. DMK thrives on a platform of ethnic identity whole the BJP is rejuvenating the Bhartiya identity
2. Both are perceived to have alienated a part of their respective electorate – DMK the upper castes (and wooing Muslims) and the BJP the Muslims (and wooing upper castes).
3. Both recall from old literature
4. Both are good administrators –chess Olympiad in 2022 and the recent Global investor forum in Chennai conducted by DMK were as efficient as the G20 functions organized by the BJP.
5. Both are keen on development, progress and delivery to the needy
There just is no underlying ideology, except to defeat BJP.
If DMK learns Hindi and becomes a National party, it will be better Nationally than most other regional parties or INC.
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Disclaimer: Not a political statement but some facts as they have shown up.
Politicians should not take the people of India to be naïve. “secularism” is losing its artificial sheen.
Politics dividing the country? Let us see the genesis. Political parties formed on religious lines (The Muslim Leagues, JMM etc…), formed on parochial basis (TDP, Siv Sena, Biju JD, Samajwadi, BSP, aligned on Caste lines (e.g based on Jats, Lingayats, Gujjjars etc.. - aligned with particular political outfits - , Dalits (BSP)) – may have missed out some smaller ones – were already in existence decades before the BJP was formed.
Tailpiece: If the Nation sees a problem in such religion, caste and parochially based alignments (yes, there sure are dangers here) the remedies have to be sought in the right places – in the society and not in politics.
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As usual a balanced view of politics, SG. India definitely needs the Congress. A new congress. Or old congress with new leadership. Anybody, except a handful (literally) can see that.
Yes, politics and its discussion are part of a democracy as long as the discussion includes the benefits to the electorate, mostly in its united functioning to improve the lot of its people and in the progress of the Nation to compete with developing and developed economies of the World.
Frankly, winning elections and defeating a party (in this case the BJP?) as the declared aim is an affront to democracy. Mamta, P. Kishore, Sharad Pawar, the Yadavs and Patnaiks are all passe’. May be an odd Patnaik or a Stalin may work for a while at local levels. We do need two strong political outfits at the National level, each with a 40% voter base for a strong Government at the Centre always and every time – without that India will forever remain a laggard democracy.
Tail piece. Coalitions are no answer. You can’t expect to consistently win test matches with T20 specialists. Like IPL, the best coalitions in India can offer only some excitement.
An aside: It is time we stop talking about defeating the BJP and talk of a political environment best suited for progress. A nation ca't make progress by just praying any which way.
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The problem is with everybody else except the SELF - right? We can never confront any PANDEMIC by looking only elsewhere for faults.
On my way from the airport on 26 Dec 2020, after spending over an in the USA, and seeing the plight of NY area in person, I was appalled by how the people in our country were taking it easy. It was as if nothing had changed since I left India in September 2019. All shops open. 50% were not wearing a mask, 30% were wearing it on their chin. Later in the week, out to buy rations, when I asked my vegetable shop fellow why he was not wearing a mask, he replied “Corona has gone, so why wear a mask?”. It was not as if the administration had said so. Because, on the same day while we were driving in our own vehicle, with closed windows and ac on, my wife and I were fined Rs 350/- for not wearing masks inside the car – I was told that it was mandatory.
Tailpiece: The problem in our country is not the rules. It is the implementation of the rules by an inadequate, overworked police and paramilitary on a people whose standards self-discipline is abysmal. Let us admit it and strive to improve. I request the media too to highlight this aspect.
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Disclaimer: With malice to none. The Print is my favorite and the only channel I watch/ read for some of its offerings.
As SG himself says, politics is an essential ingredient, as salt in food, in a democracy. But the all pervasive media is a more essential portion of life ( food, entertainment, work, play, religion, caste etc. etc.) in a democracy where free press and free speech is incumbent. The end result is that media and politics feed on each other and the people just take the left overs.
Tailpiece: In a democracy, the politicians will use the fissures in society ( which precedes modern politics by many centuries) to create vote banks (religion, caste, creed, language, parochialism etc.. etc..). So do not except them to solve societal problems.By sheer logic, it is not even a probability.The media creates the din.
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Lucid analysis. The poll outcome in Karnataka has also established beyond any doubt.
1. That democracy is very well alive and kicking in India.
2. Both the electoral process and the voting machines function effectively and truthfully.
Tailpiece: We in Karnataka, look forward to efficient administration in public services, which has been poorly managed for at least the last two decades. And ah! Polarization in INDIAN POLITICS - Dalit party, Muslim leagues, Akalis, caste based parties, parochial - DMK, AIADMK, TMC, Telangana congress, YSR congress , LOK Dal, Gomantak, Shiv Sena - has existed for decades. Is the media trying to give a new flavor to polarization? Is that a right approach?just asking.
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And one more point… There are generations of soldiers serving in the Defence forces. Carrying forward SG’s argument, do we have a dynastic Defence Force? Your call.
Tailpiece: Dynasty is about dynastic control of an institution, Party or Nation. In India, DMK, NCP, Shiv Sena, SP, TNC, INC, Akali Dal, NC, Biju JD etc which are forever controlled by dynasties are dynastic parties. A father/mother/son/daughter in politics together etc. is not about dynasts. Let us get the distinction right.
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Yes, a real test to capitalism in India. Or again, is it?
A brief take on its effect on macroeconomy of India… , very briefly, in this case of Adani group of Companies, the major issue raised in the Hindenburg report is the offshore Shell companies (owned by the family, hence violating related party transactions dictate) used for round tripping for inflating the stock prices of group companies to raise capital by pledging the group companies’ thus overvalued securities. Though not correct, yet not new to Indian industries! It is pertinent to note here in this case, that the money so raised has been invested in visible and tangible assets (Ports and cash generating companies etc.) in the country. Thus, the assets of the group exceed loan liabilities with enough cashflow in the group and ability to service the debts in the near term, (3-4 years) as per major lenders in the country. Ports, Power, Cement, Green energy etc. are industries unlikely to fail with potential to continually generate cash. I do not foresee any short term or long-term danger to the Indian economy from this event – gains and losses in the stock market notwithstanding. Yes, the ability to raise fresh capital by the group will be dented and there will be scrutiny and some possible investigations.
Tailpiece: My observations are only on the impact on Indian economy and NOT on whether any political party has benefitted (we are in a DEMOCRACY) or on any possible violations by the Group etc. which will reveal itself. Another important point to note is that the aim of Hindenburg is obviously to make money by short selling (That is what this company does for a living) and not “help” Indian economy in any way.
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Who requires a pat? India needs to wake up to the reality at the earliest.
On my way from the airport on 26 Dec 2020, after spending over an in the USA, and seeing the plight of NY area in person, I was appalled by how the people in our country were taking it easy. It was as if nothing had changed since I left India in September 2019. All shops open. 50% were not wearing a mask, 30% were wearing it on their chin. Later in the week, out to buy rations, when I asked my vegetable shop fellow why he was not wearing a mask, he replied “Corona has gone, so why wear a mask?”. It was not as if the administration had said so. Because, on the same day while we were driving in our own vehicle, with closed windows and ac on, my wife and I were fined Rs 350/- for not wearing masks inside the car – I was told that it was mandatory.
Tailpiece: The problem in our country is not the rules. It is the implementation of the rules by an inadequate, overworked police and paramilitary on a people whose standards self-discipline is abysmal. Let us admit it and strive to improve. I request the media too to highlight this aspect.
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A very good take on the present and immediate future of Indian politics.
We the people should note the basis of this analysis and develop our own thought process.
I wonder whether one important point has been missed. Probably there is a change in the way politics and governance is viewed in India, and may be across the world too. With the advent of technology and proliferation of the digital media, reaching the semi-urban, semi-rural and even some rural areas, views and opinions are formed from what one sees rather than from what one thinks.
The Q: Then, will the perception of politics change in the coming days and be influenced by the texture rather than the colour – the good old roti, kapda, makkaan.
Tailpiece: There are no ideal formulae in any system of politics. For instance, it is a fallacy to assume that there is contentment and happiness even in the CPC (China); politicians are a perpetually discontent lot; “dil mange more” types , much like all other people; hence harmony in any political party in a democracy is not even a myth; there are always turmoils and undercurrents in any political,party; so ignore them…feel the texture
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@axxoaxx288
The whole pandemic has nothing whatsoever to do with religion; any congregation is a superspreader including rallies, Kumbh etc... This congregations has more to do with people and liberal democracy than anything else.
To put matters in perspective..
India is a Nation with a population of 13664 lakhs; USA 3282 lakhs (all 2019 figures given here only for comparison). Per capita GDP (IMF data), USA $68319; India $2191. Total Covid Cases USA: 33,452,985:: India: 22,295,911: Total deaths: USA 595,587 India: 242,398 (COVID info from worldometer.info)
I am not even talking percentages. I wonder what Lancet and experts have to say about the high percentage of infections and deaths in the USA, Europe, UK and such advanced Western countries.
It is but natural to blame the Governments for everything in a democracy. But the nature of the spread of the virus in India really ells another story. Let us not miss the wood for the trees
Regards
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DK, a bit long. Allow me to
Political parties have been accepting donations, mostly in cash (black money, God knows where it went) since decades. Since the Bond scheme, donations have been through the bank. All (especially National level) political parties have received such donations…. Some more, some less, some MUCH more. It is documented and can be seen as soon as the key is found in the dog poo.
It is very evident that BJP has got not one Lion’s but “a pride of Lions’s” share of the bond donations probably following the basic psychology of backing a winner. Usually, corruption is established by following the money trail. In the case of electoral bonds, money trails are crystal clear and it is all in white. The donations are reflected in the books of the donor as well as the receiver. An improvement from the old system, definitely. Donations to political parties are not illegal. A watertight case has to be proved in the courts of law to establish direct quid pro quo with Government (Center or State). Comments and commentaries by all and sundry and the ‘experts” at best can be aimed at swaying the electorate against the incumbent governments (who are the major beneficiaries) before the elections with allegations (some may be even true) of quid pro quo, connecting some dots. No real effect unless proved in Court of Law as said earlier
It will be interesting to see how the opposition will leverage the issue (if at all) and the whole post Bond effect will unravel.
Note: The opinion of the honorable SC in relation to the unconstitutionality is not on the donations but in the opaqueness of the procedure.
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Let us look at the larger picture within which India has to strategise its policies in the neighbourhood. For the present we have to assume that as a sovereign Nation our sole intention is to Defend our borders. We have a situation where we cannot chose our neighbours, at least two of who are unreliable across contentious and treacherous borders (in as much as, when both sides claim the same piece of land, it becomes contentious). We have seen that with China and Pakistan, diplomacy can take us only so far.The ultimate intention of our hostile neighbours is to keep India under wraps and not allow it to grow into any sort of regional / world power.The only strategy with India, in the circumstance, is a two pronged approach.
1. Develop and maintain a well equipped and highly motivated Defence force as all major powers are doing. This entails high expenditure.
2. Develop the Nation as a self sustaining (not a closed door policy) economy - a robust domestic defence industry is paramount to sustain the economy in which high Defence spending (point 1 above) is imperative. The money spent on importing the much required equipment, if channeled into the domestic manufacturing, while supplying the Defence with the much needed equipment, will generate many jobs as well as enhance our GDP. It is easier said than done. We have to make a start some time and any time is not too late. To succeed, the domestic manufacturing sector should become highly quality conscious.
In regard to the minor (but important) neighbours, we need to realize that no country can live on love and free air. There is always a quid pro quo. We have to be in a position that being a friend of India becomes highly beneficial to the friend. We can discuss methods till the cows come home.
We have to map our actions against this larger picture.
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@vinaysharma5675 Vinay, thanks for your perspective. Respect it.
The people (samaj?),including the vegetable vendor, have to be definitely told off when they repeatedly violate rules and instructions.
In extension of what I said earlier consider the following with a non-partisan view. ( this is my complete observation commentated and published on the digital print platform on the same matter)
Role of the media:
When the media constantly berate only the politicians, specially from the ruling party (NOT A RECENT PHENOMENON BUT SINCE DECADES) for all ills, they do two things.
1. Abdicate the responsibility of informing the public of the reality of affairs.
2. Make the public complacent by exonerating them from all wrong doings (like not following road discipline, wearing mask etc.), by putting the blame for all wrongs on the administration, rightly or wrongly, always and every time.
Choice with people in a democracy:
In this instance, in our democracy, the people had a choice to attend or not attend the rallies and to wear the masks if they decide to attend. I will not blame the politicians that some people attended rallies without wearing masks.
Choice with the administration in a democracy:
Also, can somebody tell me whether the CEC has the authority (if not does anybody else have?) to prohibit all political rallies, in the wake of constitutionally mandated elections and conduct voting etc. without campaigning? Could the Parliament have taken such a decision with 2/3 majority (else, I know, majoritarianism and tyranny will kick in)
Tailpiece: Such reports as this article are all old wine in old bottles and will serve no purpose in Nation building. I wish the media address real issues that matter.
we all want a safe and prosperous India. Regards
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The actual normal irritants of democracy… give a thought to the Nation…democracy is not synonymous with chaos I f RG or anybody has a half the acumen of Modi (with all his warts) India will be well served, alright… But… is there?
“Democracy” is “back” in India. We will be able to witness the dance of democracy in social media and on the streets with false narratives, out of context comments, protests, hartals, road blocks (Rasta roko), bandhs, constant disruptions in parliamentary proceedings etc.
Everything except policies, progress, development, economy, reforms etc. will be discussed in the media – all media. The West and all those who want India to stagnate will laugh all the way to the bank.
Will India go back in time to be a subservient state? You got a ring side view to season 3 of the “India” series… Get your dinks, snacks and plonk on the sofa in front of your TV.
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Being a cricket fan SG should know that a Captain is as good as his team; especially when a key member of the team is media. Of course we understand the limitations of a career political journalist. Expert epidemiologists could have pin pointed the real reasons for the unprecedented spread of the virus.
Putting things in perceptive even if the impact factor of Lancet Journal is 59.103. COVID pandemic is unprecedented . Factors affecting the spread are complex.
India is a Nation with a population of 13664 lakhs; USA 3282 lakhs (all 2019 figures given here only for comparison). Per capita GDP (IMF data), USA $68319; India $2191. Total Covid Cases USA: 33,452,985:: India: 22,295,911: Total deaths: USA 595,587 India: 242,398 New cases yesterday: USA 35289: India 409 300. (COVID info from worldometer.info)
I am not even talking percentages. I also wonder whether there is a lancet study on handling COVID in the USA, Europe, UK etc...
It is a pandemic, not an epidemic or common flu. Things that will move the needle the most—are things that past events give us little to no guide about, especially a viral pandemic mutating fast and tomorrow it may mutate faster than the speed of light (figuratively) and be able to travel in the air. Hopefully it will not come to that and humanity will survive this pandemic. There will be unprecedented events. Their unprecedented nature means we won’t be prepared for them, which is part of what makes them so impactful.
Tailpiece: Before I get the bricks, I often wonder who is a bakht and who is a Kambhakt?
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SG has rightly said at the beginning of his piece that a spoken word, like all else, is a matter of interpretation and perception. A balanced analysis. But is there something more to democracy than perception?
For instance, constitutional rights will have a different appeal for me, a professional soldier, from SG, a professional political journalist. Also, language, even one’s own mother tongue, is a fascinating medium of communication for anybody. The same expression will convey differently at different times depending on, among many factors, the context, intention and tone.
In these times, I see that most people listen only to what one wants to hear. When even in our hallowed Parliament it has been eons since we have had a meaningful democratic discussion on matters of National importance. In the media we can discern line of arguments just by knowing the author or commentator.
Too much democracy or too little? Here are two examples.
1. In the USA schools do no mandate uniform unlike some school in India and the UK.
2. Unlike in the USA Indian parliament does not allow for conscience vote (they wield the Whip), so an elected member’s “freedom” ends there.
It is for each one of us to discern where we should draw the line, to decide how much of democracy is not too much. There is a view that India is not progressing as it is a laggard democracy. May be democracy also does not mean that a Nation can never speak in one voice. In the circumstance to earn and spend as one entity is a far cry, though not impossible.
Tail piece: Are hartals and protests which violate the freedom of millions of citizens by disrupting / destroying public conveniences, par for the course in a democracy? There has to be a limit to everything. There is an old saying in Malayalam – translated, “Too much of Amrit is poison”.
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Dear Mr. S. Tharoor,
You talk about the recent misbehavior with a female colleague by the AAP in the office premises of the CM as a distraction. I fully agree with you though theoretically misogyny is a moral and criminal crime. If the AAP and its friends admit to that it will not be a distraction.
So are the congress’s personal rant on PM Modi, Caste census, Muslim appeasement, lies about LAC positions hiding three decades of Indo-China history to spread canards etc.
When the BJP started the campaign with matters of development and economy, the INC and your “coalition” invented the above distractions. I would like the opposition to debate reforms in agriculture, economy, ease of doing business, judiciary, police, direct taxes, bureaucracy etc.
Can you initiate national debates on such policy issues, Mr. S Tharoor? Will this Mr. ST? I wonder.
A common man - mango man - cattle class
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Is it that we only want bring down Governments? We always want a fight, that is all; right? We do not want progress. Should not the media be giving ( not only now but since decades) more space what bills are not passed, what should be done for development and progress..and more importantly what has been done. The media, is playing the role of cheerleaders in the game ( non issues largely like suit boot, pappu etc..) between opposition and government. So much so the younger generation feels that this is democracy. Mudthha chahiye, sahi Ho ya nahin. We want a fight right or wrong.
The real issue is that “failures” is a subjective matter in a democracy and has to seen in a context, as we have been doing for more than seven decades. Second, if the aim of small and regional parties is only to fell the BJP government, it is not something We the people should encourage or be proud of.
Tail piece: Indian politics, is that people do not go out and vote but cast(e) their votes. We need to tell people to go out and vote (not caste) for work than for a living. If we encourage regional (read parochial) parties or caste based parties as cheer leaders, we will soon be a fragmented democracy rather than a federal democracy.
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Let us not assume that somethings are more right than the other. Everything is not always reflected in data in India, though data analytics is the go to mantra. It is OK if the data is OK.
Consider this.
As an example, let us take one aspect of women’s employment and look at some situations in India. One fact that is very important to note is that every citizen in the “developed world” has a unique identity and every employment even as a housemaid is reported through this unique identity such as a social security number, in the USA. The data is near dead accurate. The USA reports unemployment rates weekly to monitor its economy which is not done through measuring inflation as in India.
In India, many employments, mostly of women, are not recorded. For instance, more than 80% of the house holds in Bangalore, my city, employ maids. Have you ever seen a database for such employment? About 30% of road side vegetable and fruit vendors in my locality are women. There is also an iron lady (a lady who irons clothes) in my colony. I play golf (which is an economy that affords employment to a considerable number of men and women) considered a sin by many and resented as a snobbish sport. There are many caddies (employed in golf courses) in Bangalore who hail from UP, Bihar, WB and Assam. Most of them live single with their wives tending the small plots of land back home, cultivating seasonal crops, some vegetables and rearing a cow (buffalo) or two. I wonder if these employments are accounted for. Nobody here reports these expenditures / incomes.
Tailpiece: India is still unique. It requires Genius of a different kind to take it forward.
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t is time ALL politicians realize that today’s Indian does not learn about their political and other leaders from what politicians talk about them. Original materials and contact information, as the case maybe depending on antiquity of leaders, is authentically gathered from various other reliable sources. It is also time that our politicians stop talking about themselves and discuss, development, progress, education, skill,development, employment, amenities, economy, security and such matters that matter to us. We want an erudite opposition.
Tailpiece: Politicians will come and go, the Nation and its people,are forever. Don’t waste time and energy discussing inconsequential matters.
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Shekhar Gupta, in an uncanny way, raises issues of expansionism reminiscent of eighteenth century and earlier. In many ways his (un)guarded insinuation is not misplaced. But there are differences. He has explained the major one – the “Akhand” aspect. While in the case of China it is a state policy, it is more an “idea” with India and only “Kashmir” as a sentimental issue with Pakistan. All other developments in this regard are fallout.
In the case of Kashmir, I will say that it is important for India for its defence more than the sentiment. The strategic importance of Kashmir for defence of Indian mainland though not discussed(need not be too) in public, is a major factor in the scheme of defending our Northern borders. Letting JK go any which way is strategically detrimental to India’s Defence. With Pakistan, it is more of a matter of sentiment than history or geography. Sans ego and sentiments very easily resolvable.
China, as evidenced by ts actions worldwide, is truly in the mould of real geographic expansionism.
Between India and China it is the traditional border dispute – the only land border dispute in the World today. The border was never ever defined anytime in history. As mature Nations the dispute should and could have been settled in the past decades. For many varied reasons it was not to be.
Rest assured, as is normal with negotiations, in any settlement with China, with or without war, notwithstanding the “winner”, a lot of give and take will happen in case of a border settlement.
What do they say in business? Any crisis can be converted to an opportunity? SWOT analysis they call it - right?
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For centuries religion has dictated, and humanity has accepted, when Muhurtams and horoscopes dictate how to do what even including daily chores, how to shave (or not to shave) and dress (gender based), what and when to eat, reveal sins for redemption and also controlled other behaviors of (wo)mankind to a great extent and continues to control and direct lives (and politics?) even in this digital era. In the past decade or so (wo)mankind has embraced digital environment for an easier and convenient life style (all, all too willingly) to the extent that Facebook chooses your friends, shadi.com tells you who to marry, amazon tells you what to buy, swiggy tells you what to eat, LinkedIn tells you how to work, Netflix tells you what to see, Twitter governs you and so on.... and of course, media strives to guide you how to think.
Consider this; if it were not for the digital network, the world would have been much worse off, in this COVID19 onslaught, than it was during and after the Spanish flu of 1917-18. Don’t stymie the digital growth, especially in India, with unnecessary “concerns” about this new found “TRP” of digital security.
In the wake of the foregoing, the unfounded concern (overplay) of data security in the digital environment (which will make living easier) is confounding. Unless of course you, including the media, have something damning to hide.
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There is this actor who excels in his trade but is also a well known philanderer. Then there is this golfer, arguably the best ever, whose personal conduct off the golf course was found much wanting.For the sake of their professional performances they still command respect in society.
Kamala Harris is an American and all she will do, if and when she gets a chance, will be for America. But in many circles, as is fashionable these days, she also has managed to draw PM Modi ( like the ubiquitous Aloo (Potato) which can form part of any Indian dish ) into discussions on her, in India. I wonder if anybody has yet noticed “Kamal” in her name.
Indians, please grow up. What matters is the Nation…the screen and the golf course and not the personalities – unless of course someone wants to propose to the lady (with all due respect and reverence, just to emphasize a point, and mean no harm).
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China the enigma. Catch the bull by its horns. A bit long, but necessary.
China has its fingers (pun intended) all over its area of influence and possibly beyond in some cases. Wherever there is a dispute (there sure is on the LAC, especially in eight specific locations) it is either settled by force or through negotiations. Negotiations means “give and take” without bloodshed. War and /or conflict also means give and take after wasteful expenditures and bloodshed. In the circumstance, points for consideration are:
1. War or negotiations.
2. Is India politically ready for negotiations?
3. Is China ready to negotiate?
4. Is India ready for war?
5. Does China want war?
6. Will internal bickering (in Indian media and Parliament etc…), on a well-known situation, help India or China?
7. Is China aiming to destablise India politically (a sure enough aim of any Nation to destablise its perceived “unfriendly” neighbour), even proposed as an instrument of war by Chanakya.
8. Are there other options for India like Internationalising the dispute etc. -not recommended for obvious reasons as everybody involved will want their pound of flesh and also extend their “help” all over the place.
Tail piece: I obviously, am no expert of any sort and have only put out my views as I see the situation. Well, like you, I sometimes wonder who are the experts? If we can get answers to the above Qs, we can get the monkey of China off our LAC back.
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@anshuraj4277 It is all a matter of perception. In my days, the soccer team was lined up in 5,3,2,1 formation. (Now the most common formation is 2,4,4,1). In the former the five forwards were Left in, Left out, centre forward, right in and right out). Now it is just forwards and defenders(interchangeable). But the field , ball and the rules are the same.
You see, it is all only about playing a fair game. Names don't matter.
Enjoy.
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@riteshsinghchoudhary115 Ritesh, this is what is meant by reforms
Whoever comes, is a difficult 10 years.. Hope we (India) don't lose steam...
Lot of structural changes yet pending.Reforms are required in Judiciary, Police (already suggested by SC in 2009 but not implemented by states), farm, land, education, labour, more in economy, direct taxes, citizen identity, criminal laws, national security etc. Our democracy is a laggard where traditionally (*since decades*) new policies are opposed for agenda based or parochial reasons.
Enjoy, smile, laugh
Forward Ho!
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@surojeetchatterjee The history of India and how its cities developed, the size and population of Japan( equal to a state in India) are all different. Do you really compare Tokyo with Indian cities in what criteria? Read Indian history between 1947 and 1992… almost five decades of inaction.More importantly what India needs now is a strong goverment for bringing in reforms in Judiciary, Police (already suggested by SC in 2009 but not implemented by states), farm, land, education, labour, more in economy, direct taxes, citizen identity, criminal laws, national security etc. Our democracy is a laggard where traditionally (since decades) new policies are opposed for agenda based or parochial reasons.
Let us hope we get very strong governments for the next 3 decades…. The gibberish spoken by political parties these days is just that…gibberish
Enjoy, smile, laugh
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"India has been good at it, believe me.." SG. Yes. Spying has been part of statecraft from time immemorial. It provides valuable information which can win battles and wars – including the diplomatic types.
The Arthashastra (I trust readers as familiar with the name, in the least) mentions using artists as spies to target another state. An extensive spy system is mandated by Chanakya (Kautilya) to maintain peace, law and order internally; and the use of clandestine services to create confusion within enemies and win wars against them.
The secret agents were everywhere, both internally and externally; inside houses, in the city, in the countryside, forests, frontiers etc. They adopted a cover which was appropriate to the circumstances; 29 different types with 50 subtypes of covers have been mentioned in the Arthashastra. As a mark of Chanakya’s precision, the exact cover to be used is specified in more than a hundred places in the text.
Such activities carried potential dangers. But, of course, we can never be complacent.
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It is the way of existence that anything artificial is bad for natural processes, including all medicines which suppress symptoms and offer only temporary relief. Anything artificial is not foolproof and is “effective” for limited periods. These synthetic medicines and processes are partly destructive too because of side effects and varying action on different genetics. But waiting for natural processes to take effect to curb pandemics will be more destructive in terms to human lives and the economy, so essential for existence.
Some vaccines, over a period extending to decades, have managed to curb diseases – polio, cholera etc…
Civilisations over ages have made different choices (like farming instead of gathering and hunting, settlements instead of wandering, wars instead of peace, conquests instead of negotiations, travel and trade, use of nuclear energy for destruction etc..) which have had positive as well as negative effects on humanity.
Vaccination against COVID is just one more decision to be made for posterity.
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I have never seen the following "unbiased" reporting on your channel!!!!
On my way from the airport on 26 Dec 2020, after spending over an in the USA, and seeing the plight of NY area in person, I was appalled by how the people in our country were taking it easy. It was as if nothing had changed since I left India in September 2019. All shops open. 50% were not wearing a mask, 30% were wearing it on their chin. Later in the week, out to buy rations, when I asked my vegetable shop fellow why he was not wearing a mask, he replied “Corona has gone, so why wear a mask?”. It was not as if the administration had said so. Because, on the same day while we were driving in our own vehicle, with closed windows and ac on, my wife and I were fined Rs 350/- for not wearing masks inside the car – I was told that it was mandatory.
Tailpiece: The problem in our country is not the rules. It is the implementation of the rules by an inadequate, overworked police and paramilitary on a people whose standards self-discipline is abysmal. Let us admit it and strive to improve. I request the media too to highlight this aspect. This is not a cricket match; statistics in a pandemic are just that; just some numbers. Get real
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On my way from the airport on 26 Dec 2020, after spending over an in the USA, and seeing the plight of NY area in person, I was appalled by how the people in our country were taking it easy. It was as if nothing had changed since I left India in September 2019. All shops open. 50% were not wearing a mask, 30% were wearing it on their chin. Later in the week, out to buy rations, when I asked my vegetable shop fellow why he was not wearing a mask, he replied “Corona has gone, so why wear a mask?”. It was not as if the administration had said so. Because, on the same day while we were driving in our own vehicle, with closed windows and ac on, my wife and I were fined Rs 350/- for not wearing masks inside the car – I was told that it was mandatory.
Tailpiece: The problem in our country is not the rules. It is the implementation of the rules by an inadequate, overworked police and paramilitary on a people whose standards self-discipline is abysmal. Let us admit it and strive to improve. I request the media too to highlight this aspect. This is not a cricket match; statistics in a pandemic are just that; just some numbers. Get real
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The whole pandemic has nothing whatsoever to do with religion; any congregation is a superspreader including rallies, Kumbh etc... This congregations have more to do with people and liberal democracy than anything else.
To put matters in perspective.
India is a Nation with a population of 13664 lakhs; USA 3282 lakhs (all 2019 figures given here only for comparison). Per capita GDP (IMF data), USA $68319; India $2191. Total Covid Cases USA: 33,452,985:: India: 22,295,911: Total deaths: USA 595,587 India: 242,398 (COVID info from worldometer.info)
I am not even talking percentages here. I wonder what Lancet and experts have to say about the high percentage of infections and deaths in the USA, Europe, UK and such advanced Western countries. As per today’s statistics you are 12.5 times more likely to die living in the USA, Europe or UK than in India.
It is but natural to blame the Governments for everything in a democracy. But the nature of the spread of the virus in India really tells another story. Let us not miss the wood for the trees
Regards
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I am wondering why a lot of us common folk, experts, media, commentators, political party leaders and functionaries et al, waste a lot of time on non issues. For instance, take this matter of inaugurating the mew parliament building so essential for a growing, demographically and economically, India to progress from a laggard to moving democracy.
Consider this:
1. The President is Head of State
2. The PM is the head of the government
3. The legislatures, physically and metaphorically, is the seat / function of the government and NOT of the state.
4. All MPs (RS & LS) dispense their duties in the name of the GOI and not in behalf of the State or party. So, all elected members irrespective of parties are part of the government.
5. I wonder why then PM should not inaugurate functions related to the government as was done ( or as has been the practice with precedence, as they say in law) by previous PMs, in connection with physical and metaphorical Parliamentary affairs.
Nonpolitically yours
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