Comments by "Awesome Avenger" (@awesomeavenger2810) on "Owen Jones meets James O'Brien: 'Remain were never ready for the fight'" video.

  1. The remain campaign only ever concentrated on the economic side of Brexit (which is not an exact science). They never touched on the issue of EU political union (the whole reason for Brexit), because they knew political union was unpopular. They then ended up believing their own hype - that leaving the EU was a far right racist endeavour. Meaning that they were arguing against a position that most leave voters didn't hold. Worse still, their whole campaign ended up as basically 'No We Can't!' - which was the opposite of Obama's winning campaign slogan.
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  2. The remain campaign failed because, like you, it ignored the arguments put forward by those who wanted to leave, and instead argued against a position they found more convenient to their own politics. People didnt vote to leave the EU because of 'austerity'. Those who believe they did might find this a comforting delusion (because it conveniently allows them to blame everything on the tories), but it doesn't make sense. Because the tories were elected into power in 2010 on a promise to limit public spending due to the massive debt the country was in. So if people were angry at austerity the country wouldn't have continued to vote conservative since 2010. How can you win an argument if you're not even willing to recognise the opposing view? Its like holding a debate in a different room to the person you're debating with. The argument was never (and can never be) just economic. The issue of political union was a massive part of the debate, that the remain campaign never engaged with. Because they knew it was unpopular, and always has been unpopular (the side of the bus thing is an obsession of remainers, one they pretend not to understand, which only makes them look petty and disingenuous - while claiming Brexit was won by lies can only be done if you conveniently ignore the remain campaign's own lies, half truths, and deception). Worse still, they decided to demonise half the country, claiming that not wanting to be part of a political union with much of the rest of Europe made you a racist and a xenophobe (or 'worse than nazis'). Which meant that the debate shifted away from the one area the remain campaign made headway with (economics) to a simplistic and infantile 'good vs evil' argument. And who ended up effectively leading that argument for the remain side? - Jeremy Corbyn. The economically illiterate ex-rabidly anti-EU campaigner (considerably more anti-EU than Farage) with a long history of support for racist and sectarian terror groups. And that guy and his supporters are gonna lecture the rest of us on good economic sense and morality?
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