Comments by "Todd Beamer" (@toddbeamer6131) on "DCCI Ministries"
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"Did Muhammad belong to a community of people that were Christian or Jewish" In the 'standard islamic narrative' muhammed was born to a tribe that worshipped many gods and goddesses, and stones (like the Black Stone). One of those gods was called al-lah (his wife was al-lat). This was in Mecca, and it was a pilgrimage site for many faiths, including Christians. When muhammed first heard voices in his head, and was shocked and scared by the experience, someone who knew about Christianity suggested it might have been an angel (rather than a demon sending him mad). The obvious reason was to save face, because muhammed was married to a rich and powerful businesswoman. There were no pyschiatrists back then, and no drugs to treat mental disorders like that. Convincing him it was a friendly 'divine messenger' calmed him down and suppressed his suicidal depression.
That is the standard narrative. Historically, the entire cult is a fabrication by the later abassids, purely for political reasons (to unite the arab empire). No mecca, no muhammed.
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@Theblaqueone716 What I am amazed by is that muslims have not demanded to see proof that mecca is as ancient and important a city as their scripture and religious leaders tell them. It is supposed to be the oldest city in history. Even Abraham is supposed to have visited it. The hadith collections describe it as a famous pilgrimage site, a place of trade and commerce, widely known, with lots of people of different faiths coming and going. When muhammed and his army attacked mecca, they needed tens of thousands of soldiers to convince the city to surrender. The city was supposed to have had large city walls, magnificent buildings, the kaaba surrounded by hundreds of religious artifacts, a booming merchant commerce, plentiful water for drinking, agriculture, etc.
And what is the evidence for any of that? Nothing. When they dig in the sand to create the foundations for all the big buildings, all they find is sand. Nothing else. It is not on any maps from the 7th century or earlier. Not described by any pilgrims or merchants in neighboring empires. The city lies in a desert, a long way from anywhere, and its only water source is a single, deep well that has only a pitiful and seasonal output. That means there never was a great ancient city of mecca in the 7th century, or any time before that. Without mecca, the entire cult falls like a house of cards.
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