Comments by "Todd Beamer" (@toddbeamer6131) on "Chris At Speakers Corner" channel.

  1. "The quran" No there are many different arabic qurans. Over 30 are on sale in the world today: the Warsh quran, the Al-Duri quran, the 1924 standardised Hafs (the liar) quran, etc. Between them are over 93,000 text differences; different words with different meanings. These change the theology of entire sentences.
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  2. It is so disgusting listening to these cult members trying to defend barbarism. Even the abuse of children. Another reason not to import them, and not to trust them. A filthy 7th century cult that has poisoned the minds of people for 1400 years.
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  3. Hilarious. And when you ask any cult member to show an original, 7th century muhammed quran, they run. If you ask them for an original, 7th century Uthman quran, they run. If you ask them for an original 7th century quran, they run. If you ask them for an original, 7th century hadith book, they run. If you ask them for an original, 7th century sira, they run. The "holes in the narrative" are so wide and deep that Sheikh Yasir Qadhi fell into them and has never been the same since. Well done Chris!
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  4. Islam is not only finished theologically and scripturally, but is finished at its very base; historically. There is no evidence for the claims about Mecca. It never existed in the 7th century or earlier. No contemporary evidence, and no archaeological evidence. The entire cult is based on lies.
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  5. The UK prison system now produces jee hadis. I guess the authorities will ignore that too, just like the rape gangs. The main focus of the police are to arrest 16 yr old autistic girls for thought crimes.
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  6. I just had a comment discussion and discovered the abdool was using chatGPT to make responses rather that being honest or thinking.
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  7. It gets better every year! Now we know there is absolutely no historical basis for the "standard islamic narrative" (SIN). Not only are there "holes in the narrative" but the narrative was fabricated about 100 years after the supposed events, in arab-controlled cities far north of the arabian peninsula. There was no 'famous city of mecca' or muhammed. They now have no foundation; no book and no cult founder. It is all lies. Recently, Dr Jay Smith reported on the earliest extant copies of the hadith collections, and this was shocking. The earliest extant copy of Sahih Bukhari comes from the 14-15th century! It is so ridiculously late that it is obviously a fiction. This makes polemics much, much easier!
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  8. Permitted lying (taqiyya) at its best. Denial, deviation, and deceit. A cult of lies, hate and violence that follows the example of a bloodthirsty warlord, slave owner, misogynist and pdf file. There should be no tolerance of this barbaric cult in the west.
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  9. Al-Lah is fickle and twisted, as described in the hadith literature where whites are created to go to heaven, blacks to hell: "Abud Darda' reported Gods messenger as saying, God created Adam when He created him and struck his right shoulder and brought forth his offspring white like small ants. And he struck his left shoulder and brought forth his offspring black as though they were charcoal. Then He said to the party on his right side, To paradise, and I do not care and He said to the party in his left shoulder, To hell, and I do not care." Ahmad transmitted it. Grade: Isnd Hasan (Zubair `Aliza'i) Reference: Mishkat al-Masabih 119 In-book reference: Book 1, Hadith 112
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  10. There was a time when the UK had not been invaded by people who hate democracy, hate non-believers, hate free speech and think women without head coverings are free targets. There was a time when policing was more uniform, not 2-tiered to protect the invaders. There was a time when the judiciary was not 2-tiered. The main reason for the deep social unrest is that the UK has destroyed all of its institutions and indigenous culture in an effort to become the third world. Good luck with that.
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  11. If you want an online source that shows the arabic variants, check out the corpus coranicum. An academic website of quran variants. You can see the verses in parallel lines for different arabic qurans. Tens of thousands of variants.
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  12. Yep, typical abdool behaviour. Aggressive, insulting and unwilling to engage with someone who knows the texts well, which means he is not interested in the truth, only in lies and deception. What pitiful lives these abdools must live.
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  13. Mansur realised he was caught and was desperate to flee. Typical dawagandist.
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  14. "complementary" They are two different words with two different meanings. They alter the meaning and theology of the entire sentence. A King is a very different type of person compared to a mere owner. It also begs the question about the vowel markings being errors (a simple dot difference), particularly given that the original arabic had no vowel markings and that the vowel marking conventions were added at abmuch later date. Then we have the usual excuse that verbal recitation made any corruption impossible yet such a difference in word sound should have easily been detected and avoided. It wasn't. The quran says it is protected from any corruption yet Uthman eliminated all variants except the version he chose. Who gave him that right? After his standardisation there should have been no variants at all - not because of anything stated in the quran but because Uthman destroyed all earlier texts and commanded that his standardised version be distributed to all major islamic cities. The Malik/Maalik difference is only one of tens of thousands amongst all the different arabic qurans.
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  15. Now we know there wasn't even a mecca at the supposed time of muhammed. That is why there is no muhammed quran. No Uthman quran. No 7th century quran. No 7th century hadiths. No 7th century sira. Nothing at all. The entire cult is lies based on lies and held together by lies and violence. Fortunately the internet is destroying it from the base upwards.
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  16. qiirat were a 10th century ad hoc development to try and control the violence over different qurans. It was simply decreed that the 10 most popular versions (out of many more) were now "canonical" even though they differed significantly from each other. It makes a mockery out of the entire idea of a perfectly preserved book. If you believe Uthman had previously standardised the quran to a single version and destroyed all previous texts, then it means variants accumulated from even an original human-standardisation. In reality, the entire 'standard narrative' is a cloud of lies upon more lies.
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  17. Here is a quiz: think of a crime, any crime possible to perpetrate in 7th century arabia. Just for fun, list the major ones down on paper. Then think of any crime on that list that muhamed DIDN'T do. Good luck.
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  18. blind faith is one thing, but lying and deceiving is another. They will knowingly lie to defend their texts from criticism. They ignore historical facts. They will even murder to prevent any criticism. Many are leaving the cult precisely because they realise they have been lied to all their lives. Muhammed wasn't the really nice guy they were led to believe. The quran is not perfectly preserved, to the letter. Their book is not only based on borrowed material but it is a complete mess - something they don't realise if they don't understand arabic and get all their information from the mouths of their clerics. There is not even any historical evidence for the 'standard islamic narrative' - something they are desperately trying to find exuses for.
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  19. Jay Smith on PfanderFilms has just released a lecture video summarizing the evidence that destroys the historicity of the standard islamic narrative, and provides a good explanation of what mhmd means. Check it out.
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  20. It breaks existing laws and should be prosecuted out of existence.
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  21. In Pakistan it would have been more than a slap. That is how they think.
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  22. Another ugly, badly behaved abdool who desperately tries to deny his own texts. There are multiple hadiths that describe this event, and they use words like 'struck me' and 'caused me pain'. The contexts is very clear; she followed him out of her tent to see where he was going at night, and when he found out he was so angry that he punished her by striking her chest. Remember it is a woman's chest, so you can imagine how painful that would be. He was following the permission for wife beating (4:34). Without lies, and liars, islame dies.
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  23. LOL, the old dawa script. Chris would dismantle your claims for the world to see if you tried these at Speakers Corner. Try them out on him when you visit the park next and give us some more entertainment.
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  24. If the switch is 'canonical', then al-lah and muhammed are one and the same person!
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  25. The adbools all do the same tap dancing. Without lies, islame dies.
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  26. No, it is simply showing the world what a degraded pervert the 7th century cult founder was. How do you believe a guy who owned and traded blacks, and owned sex slaves is your best "pattern of conduct" to guide your life by? Compare that bloodthirsty warlord and pdf file to Jesus. Did Jesus do such appalling harm to other people? Did he command people be tortured to find out where their valuables were hidden? Muhammed did that.
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  27. The police used to police speakers corner. Now they watch from a distance, arrest victims, and fail to arrest perpetrators. They implement a 2-tiered doctrine of policing, where muslims are in the first tier and non-believers are a very poor second. In reality, the police are implementing sharia. Unless the british can take control over policing the country is lost.
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  28. Nice taqiyya. No muhammed quran, no Uthman quran, no 7th century quran, no 7th century hadiths, no 7th century sira. Yet by the 10th century there were so many different arabic qurans they were killing each other ('religion of pieces') that Ibn Mujahid had to decree his favorite 10 as "canonical" just to stop more bloodshed. Much of the quran is clearly borrowed from know sources, and then some complete idiot decided to mix up the chapters. It is a joke! The entire cult is a fiction based on liars and lies.
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  29. A good summary. Normal taqiyya. They train to lie, and do so like true professionals. Without lies, and liars, islame dies.
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  30. No 7th century muhammed quran, no 7th century Uthman quran, no 7th century quran, no 7th century hadith, no 7th century sira. Does anyone see there is a problem with the very basis of this cult? There is no 7th century evidence at all, for anything. Even when you look at the historical evidence for a city of mecca existing at the supposed time of muhammed you find nothing. No archaeological evidence. No descriptions by pilgrims or merchants from neighboring empires. Not on contemporary maps of the 7th century or earlier. Alif, Lam, Ra = A Load of Refuse.
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  31. Yes, Uthman was a partner of al-lah, deciding for him what the exact text was and what was left out. The other major issue is who was responsible for compiling the quran into chapters that are not in chronological order (the order 'sent down' by al-lah). Apart from the first sura, the others have been roughly ordered by the length of text. How stupid. Presumably it was Uthman who decided that too, and garbled up the entire book.
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  32. Did the police ever catch the guy who tried to knife Hatun?
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  33. Mecca was a fake. Muhammed is a fiction. The quran is an obvious fake. The sira and hadiths are all fakes. The entire cult is a fabrication by arab rulers who came well after the time that muhammed was supposed to have lived. They needed a religion to keep the arab empire together, and challenge the Byzantines, so they created one.
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  34. Now in 2024 we know that a city of mecca never existed at the supposed time of (fictional) muhammed. The entire cult was a later fabrication. Scholars looking at the writing style of the Birmingham folio give it a date around the end of the early 8th century, and the content of these pages is Christian and has nothing to do with islam. Prof. Francois Deroche dates these folios to the early eighth century. Arab Christians probably wrote this, and then later the scribes who were tasked with creating the quran borrowed it (like they did almost all of the quran!). The folio has just parts of three surah, and the sources are listed, along with the dates of these sources: Surah 18:17-31 = The 7 sleepers of Ephesus, Syrian Bishop Jacob of Sarug (521 AD) Surah 19:91-98 = Proto-Evangelium of James (145 AD) Surah 20:1-40 = Story of Moses (1400 BC) These are all pre-Qur’anic, pre-Muhammad, and thus pre-Islamic. Much of the quran was borrowed from known sources - even popular stories like the Alexander Romance literature (Dhul Quarnayn story). The book is an obvious man-made fabrication. See Dr Jay Smith's recent lectures on the topic. The entire cult is based on lies.
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  35. The UK has been used as a social experiment. Huge numbers of illegal entrants over decades, from cultures that hate the West and all of its values. The results are now visible for all to see.
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  36. I thought they would all say they were offended by the questions and want to run out of the studio? Isn't that what the dawa guys do? (well done guys, great video)
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  37. Very informative analysis of Mansur's lies, ad hominems, diversions, embarrassment, hypocrisy and poor English.
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  38. MENJ goes back many, many years, debating with Sam Shamoun and David Wood. He was thoroughly demolished and exposed every time but kept going in a career of taqiyya. Even after being raided by the Malaysian police for p*rn he still came back to debate Christians as if nothing had happened. As if being in possession of p*rn had no relation to his moral respectability. He is a hypocrite.
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  39. "true Christians" There is no Jesus in the quran at all. Just some guy named Isa. Wrong name, wrong history, wrong background, wrong guy.
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  40. @ That is the standard islamic narrative (SIN) story that cult members are told to believe, but the actual history of the cult is completely different. There was no city of mecca, no MHMD and the texts were cobbled together much later. The entire cult was a creation by arab rulers who wanted a new religion to unify the arab empire. Dr Jay Smith has many recent lectures and panel discussions (on YT) that summarize the historical evidence on how the cult really began. Of course cult members have no idea how to handle facts and will reject any notion that they have been lied to for 1400 years.
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  41. The international health agencies estimate about 60 girls die every day from child marriage, with many times that being seriously injured. Some even die from the injuries of the wedding night. That is the legacy of a 7th century perverted cult founder.
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  42. What she doesn't mention is sharia. That is what drives the hate, threats, misogyny, aggression and violence. Yes it is tribalism, but that was codified in sharia for all time. It is set in concrete, forcing people to live in the mind of a 7th century arabian warlord, slave owner, misogynist and pdf file who had all his critics murdered.
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  43. Hamza is a coward, running from being publicly humiliated. The dawa script has been exposed as a complete fraud, so they have no defence.
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  44. the most obvious "hole" is the complete absence of a copy of the Uthman recension (standardised) quran, that was sent out to all the major islamic cities. That is sunni islam's most important quran but no-one can find a single example. That should tell everyone there is something very wrong with the 'standard islamic narrative'. It is such a gaping hole that the only reasonable conclusion is that the entire narrative is a piece of creative fiction. No muhammed quran. No Uthman quran. No 7th century quran. No 7th century hadiths. No 7th century sira. The cult is based on lies and held together by threats and violence.
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  45. Well, the sun has bad days and good days, and sometimes it just needs a break from the strict discipline. As the hadiths and scholars describe, after it drops into that refreshingly hot, muddy pool it likes to hang around prostrating in front of al-lahs throne, probably expecting a pat on the head and a 'good doggy' response before heading off to the place it rises from in the flat Earth.
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  46. Over 30 different arabic qurans on sale in the world today, with over 93,000 text differences. Different words with different meanings that change the theology of entire sentences. Have you ever looked to fact check what your lying clerics tell you? There are online websites (e.g. Corpus Coranicum) that show you the differences. Do you need an example?
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  47. Estes is a good representative of the intellectual depth of muslim dawagandists. Zero. In most cases it is less than zero because they know they are lying.
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