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Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "Unvaxxed Child Less Risk Of Serious COVID Than Vaxxed 70 Year Old" video.
@MeanBeanComedy Kim Iversen is a Tulsi Gabbard type of Democrat, and agreed with Bernie on a lot of things, but she also has a strong libertarian streak, especially for the First Amendment. She is no fool about economic issues, taxes, etc. She did an excellent critique of Gabbard on drone warfare, first inviting her to come on the show to discuss it, then renewing the invitation before saying anything against Gabbard's position. I liked it a lot. Refreshing. Iversen is upfront: she got vaccinated, she opposes all mandates for COVID vaccines.
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@metalbrainmextrememetalent6810 The argument for vaccinating children who have not already had COVID is to slow the spread. (Vaccination will not stop the spread.) There is some evidence for that, even with these leaky vaccines. The counterargument is that it is wrong to risk the well being of children to protect adults. Children should only be vaccinated when it is clearly beneficial for THEM. What Max has said about the vaccines has been echoed by actual left-wing parties around the world, starting with the PCF. The CGT organized a demonstration of vaccinated health care workers in support of their unvaccinated colleagues. The video of that is great, with the comments all praising the CGT for their humanity. Kim Iversen has addressed this, as has Russell Brand just today. DNC neolibs always try to smear the left by calling them right wing. People unfamiliar with the trope think it's something all bright shiny and new.
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@metalbrainmextrememetalent6810 If the vaccine is so much safer for adults than COVID, it should be no problem to persude people to take it, without coercion. Jimmy, Stef, and their staff all got vaccinated a long time ago, and only Jimmy had debilitating side effects from it, which were treated. Jimmy and Max are against mandates. The demonstrations Russell Brand featured today were against vaccine passports and mandates.
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@lal7933 You have got a TON of company.
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The 70 year old IS vaccinated, correct?
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@zelda1966 No, Fauci doesn't kill puppies! He sends millions of dollars in grant money to people who build an apparatus to torture puppies to death. For Science.
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@guynew8501 Thank you.
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Hysterical, thank you.
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@belakthrillby Tell me the last time you gave your child a vaccine within a year of its initial introduction, that was developed in under a year, that requires two doses, that has very serious side effects in some people, where the protection wanes in 6 to 9 months significantly enough to require additional vaccination, for a disease that is almost never lethal in people under 40, or serious in people under 18, and has an overall case mortality rate of about 2%, with most of those who died over 75? Never? Is never a good guess? I can promise you my parents never did that to me.
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@Res1wolf So in the case of minors, you do not create an unacceptable risk to them with no appreciable benefit to them. They are unable to choose for themselves. Basic ethics.
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@Res1wolf How much risk must be imposed on a child to help reduce the risk for adults? You sound as if the answer were obvious.
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He's quoting the Times. Look closely. How much risk should be imposed on children in order to protect adults?
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@peterstafford4426 "Fauci brand?" So you admit it.
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How much risk should be imposed on children in order to protect adults?
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@rodfatherfishing9223 That is precisely what the articles have been addressing. For teens and younger, the risk of hospitalization for vaccine-related myocarditis alone is significantly higher than the risk of hospitalization for COVID itself. Are there other considerations? Does having COVID in childhood have long-term ramifications? Does the vaccine? Well, how can we answer that, for a virus only identified in 2019? We can try to learn something based on SARS in Canada some years ago, or by studying COVID in rats or mice, since they have a shorter life cycle. Watch to see what countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark do. That will tell you more. Look at their ministries of health, for what they recommend. They have longer life expectancies and very healthy kids in general. I gave up on our media a long time ago.
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@belakthrillby From the Statistica website: the proportion of all COVID deaths that have occurred inchildren under 17 is 0.0749%. Or, to put it another way, 99.925% of all deaths were in adults 18 and older. Over 94% of all deaths were in people 50 and over. And this is in America, that has poor public health and an obesity problem. Go do the math. It's worse than I thought.
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The New York Times did, for purposes of making the statistics more vivid and comprehensible.
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From the Statistica website: the proportion of all COVID deaths that have occurred in children under 17 is 0.0749%. Or, to put it another way, 99.925% of all deaths were in adults 18 and older. Over 94% were in people 50 and over. Go do the math. It's worse than I thought.
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There are infectious diseases that are more dangerous to children than adults. The question is vaccine mandates. How much risk should be imposed on children in order to protect adults?
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Another great point.
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People who read the New York Times articles won't. People who know the vaccines are not being given to little kids in other countries won't.
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How much risk should be imposed on children in order to protect adults? These are minor children, who can't decide for themselves.
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From the Statistica website: the proportion of all COVID deaths that have occurred in children under 17 is 0.0749%. Or, to put it another way, 99.925% of all deaths were in adults 18 and older. Over 94% were in people 50 and over. It's not possible to pinpoint the median age of those who died, but it's clearly over 75. Worse than I thought.
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@yodaiam1000 Tell me the last time you, as a healthy person, took a vaccine within months of its initial introduction, that was developed in under a year, that requires two doses, that has very serious side effects in some people, where the protection wanes in 6 to 9 months significantly enough to require additional vaccination, for a disease that is almost never lethal in people under 40 and has an overall case mortality rate of about 2%? Never? Is never a good guess? But this time is different?
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@yodaiam1000 Conjecture and fuzzy hand waving. Leave those kids alone. Besides, those things are not true about the measles vaccine. You might need one booster during your life, years after your first shot. Edit: I am being censored for citing Nat'l Geo., which discussed incomplete vaccines several years ago. I can't use the word THEY did, making it impossible to reference the article. THAT should worry you more.
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@knob3887 How do you know they would run to the hospital? People decline to go to the hospital all the time. At least in my family they did.
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See the National Geographic article on that subject.
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@jasonj6206 Do you think CGT/PCF are left wing? They've been saying what Max says.
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Please tell us where you read this. Links are usually shadowed.
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To vaccinated grandma or teachers?
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@aileenpi73 How much risk should young children be forced to bear to protect the elderly? Actually, not protect, but reduce the risk to the elderly. Minors can't choose.
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@aileenpi73 I think the two sides to that equation need to be practically none on the young child side, and great reduction on the elderly side. The burden of proof is on the proponent. That's why patients sign consent forms.
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@Res1wolf Who is insulting whom?
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@Res1wolf Exactly why it is an issue. So "fait accompli" is your argument? Okay. How much risk must be imposed on a child to help reduce the risk for adults?
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@Res1wolf For adults, or for minors? As a matter of individual persuasion, or coercion? What is the rate of serious complications from the various COVID vaccines, including those available in other countries? How do they compare with other, well-known vaccines that we've been using for generations? For example, I know people who choose not to take flu shots (I frankly don't understand, but anyway). How does the safety profile of the COVID vaccines compare with that of flu vaccines? BUT most important, what is the risk-benefit analysis for minor children? I stopped caring what other people in the US do a LONG time ago.
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@Res1wolf Precisely what the myocarditis data shows is WRONG. Look, advocate for adults, your prerogative. Leave those kids alone.
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@Res1wolf Wait. Are you a false flag? You're actually anti-vaccine, right? I mean why else would anyone repeat such obvious falsehoods . . .
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