Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "EXPLOSIVE Truth About Vaccines u0026 COVID w/Inventor Of mRNA Vaccine Technology, Dr. Robert Malone" video.

  1. If a terrorist is brought into an emergency room, HE will be treated.
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  2.  @MrIkesimba  He was making an analogy to something we are all familiar with. He should have been clearer. But it was not a lie. Also, we know that anyone not pushing the consensus narrative will be denounced, right or wrong. When Russell Brand is making more sense than most people do, simply by calling for calm, unfettered discussion, you know we are in a real bad way.
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  3. If a school shooter is brought into an emergency room, HE will be treated.
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  4.  @mortyshallman  Ask that of the vaccinated with breakthrough infections who refuse to wear masks.
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  5.  @jennperson6008  He said on this show that certain categories at high risk SHOULD get the COVID vaccine.
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  6. For anyone interested in a calm, rational discussion on the clearly pro-vaccine (but not vaccine-centric, or anti-civil liberties) side, watch Lex Fridman's Sept 1st podcast where he interviews a real virologist, professor and researcher from Columbia University. He supports further research into therapeutics, including ivermectin. It is excellent.
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  7. Boston marathon terrorist Tsarnaev was treated when he was taken to a hospital.
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  8. When you get censored, go back and say so where your post used to be. This has gotten absurd.
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  9.  @tsijr915  I should have added /s.
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  10.  @NuNugirl  People have had COVID and gotten better very quickly with no medication whatsoever, back in early 2020, when there was none. Mild cases have always existed. We don't know based on one case what worked, or why. But Rogan is older and not in perfect shape. It's likely he needed the medicines he got.
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  11.  @fazole  Yes, I know. Why call it horse dewormer when it has saved people's eyes? To put it down?
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  12.  @michellekincaid5499  If a school shooter is brought to the ER, he is treated. Ponder that. Boston marathon terrorist Tsarnaev was treated.
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  13. Only if we are all infantile, and incapable of finding and reading legitimate news and peer-reviewed journal articles. IOW, only if we are truly incapable of having a rational discussion. Maybe we are. This entire century has been disastrous.
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  14. Look up The Guardian article that just reported teen boys who get an mRNA vaccine are at higher risk of hospitalization than are teen boys who contract COVID. This is because of myocarditis.
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  15. Doctors, not pundits, advocating for not treating the unvaccinated? Yeah, that's shocking. If a school shooter or a child molester comes to an ER, he is treated.
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  16.  @MrIkesimba  "A vaccine is administered so that a host isn't infected in the first place." And that is NOT what's happening.
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  17.  @MrIkesimba  You did not describe antibiotic resistance properly. That is not how evolutionary biology works. Mutations in bacteria and in viruses arise spontaneously, and in general are more likely to arise the greater the rate of replication. (Yet the four major variants of COVID, including Delta, did not arise in the United States, even though the US has the most COVID cases in the world. There's an element of unpredictability due to randomness at work here. We could of course find that the next variant starts here.) A mutant bacterium or virus is not "stronger" because it is exposed to an antibiotic or an antibody that doesn't kill it, nor does it become "stronger" because it wasn't killed. The mutant organism does not have the genetic features that make it highly susceptible to the existing antibiotics or antibodies, purely due to chance. It survives, and thus may replicate, and thus also may pass on the genetic features that made it resistant to the next microbe generation. When you have infected but asymptomatic or barely symptomatic vaccinated people circulating with a false sense of security, that spells trouble. Time to admit it.
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  18.  @MrIkesimba  Where did you study biology? I still remember E. Peter Volpe. Great little book.
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  19.  @MrIkesimba  Plenty of antibiotics are used as prophylaxis, and it is one proper use of them. (Ever had surgery?) For someone so emphatic and insistant that everyone take a vaccine using a technology that has never been used en masse before, you are not sufficiently careful with the facts. But that's nothing new. The Guardian just reported that teen boys have a higher risk of hospitalization for myocarditis from the mRNA vaccines than they do from a COVID infection. The bad news keeps trickling in . . .
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  20.  @MrIkesimba  My CORRECT conclusion, which you are quick to ignore: When you have infected but asymptomatic or barely symptomatic vaccinated people circulating with a false sense of security, that spells trouble. Time to admit it. Not to mention the rapidity with which immunity, incomplete as it is, appears to wane, to the point where boosters at 8 months are seriously proposed and implemented, with no real testing.
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  21.  @MrIkesimba  Your "inherently stronger organisms" rhetoric makes me think you studied Social Darwinism. That is NOT biology. Nor did I "inadvertently apply Mendelian inheritance," LOL! Now you're being ridiculous. No more gish gallop. Have the last word. You've been exposed.
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  22.  @ricksimon9867  If you have to lash out at people and call them killers, and minimize the nature of the risk-benefit analysis, you have already lost. I doubt that you are a false flag, but you function as such, turning people off from your supposed position. I also noted a great, pro-vaccine podcast to watch, not the incessant PROPAGANDA that has made you hysterical. Lex Fridman, check it out.
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  23.  @ricksimon9867  Oh, I see. You joined this year just to jeer. Oops, maybe you function as a false flag because this time you are?
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  24.  @ricksimon9867  Blocked, BTW, from my notifications threads.
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  25.  @mortyshallman  Wow. Are you a writer?
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  26.  @techbubble7609  A very pro-vaccine doctor, Eric Topol, was talking about all the things countries like Germany and Netherlands have been doing: for example, they can go to the pharmacy and pick up home testing kits for free. They administer them to their kids at least weekly, and take them themselves, vaccinated or not. It's routine, no drama, and no fear if they have to miss work or school. Even Dr. Topol called our approach overly "vaccine-centric." It's obvious what is going on. Also see Greenwald on substack about the complete about-face of the ACLU. They had put out a working paper in 2008 warning of government overreach in case there were a pandemic, arguing for persuasion and against any mandates or arbitrary shutdowns. Pretty shocking stuff.
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  27. 44:03 I'm thinking this is how people who got vaccinated and are now scared they made a mistake are going to act. Jimmy got vaccinated, as did Stef. Stef was sore and tired for a short time and then felt better. Jimmy got long COVID symptoms. He tells us the truth about what happened to him. In short: Jimmy has a very good heart.
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  28.  @bluelanterns2982  The NEJM, Nov 13, 1997, has an article on the Nuremberg Code, 50 year anniversary. It pertains to experimentation on human subjects. It is very worthwhile to read it, and to keep an open mind about how various mandates constitute an encroachment on basic human rights. There is NO WAY an EUA can possibly support mandates. In any case, who can force you to go to a doctor for any treatment, ever? That is your choice. You have to consent. People can be quarantined for public health reasons, or obligated to wear masks, or any number of things, but they cannot be forced to accept any intrusion on their body. You have to PERSUADE them to give consent. It isn't "a thing," my arse.
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  29.  @bluelanterns2982  Fifty Years Later: The Significance of the Nuremberg Code List of authors.Evelyne Shuster, Ph.D. November 13, 1997 N Engl J Med 1997; 337:1436-1440 DOI: 10.1056/NEJM199711133372006
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  30. He was part of the team that developed mRNA technology for immunotherapy vaccines at Salk, then at a small biotech. A lot of people worked on it.
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  31. We treat school shooters. We treat terrorists. We treated Tsarnaev. Did anyone object?
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  32. Don't worry about it. That is a LONG time ago. Eat clean, stay away from screens, find various physical exercises you enjoy, dance more, and be outside every nice day.
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  33. This is the Robert Malone who graduated with an MD from Northwestern and then worked at the Salk Institute back in the 1980s. What did you think? Did Mr. Ed overdose on ivermectin and start whispering to you?
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  34. I'll tell you who is against vaccine mandates and passports in other countries: LFI and PCF, the French hard left and the Communists. Ponder that. And that is in a society WITH universal health care, tuition-free college, universal pensions, and generous disability benefits -- not one where all risk is offloaded to the individual, and if you're harmed, you're on your own.
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  35.  @harmonys2102  My reply was just censored. It was entirely factual, too.
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  36.  @tobe2btobe  WHERE DO YOU GET THIS NONSENSE? Malone got his MD at Northwestern, then did research at the Salk Institute. Did you confuse this Malone with some Malone you found on Facebook or PeopleFinder?
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  37.  @tobe2btobe  He was at Salk in the 1980s.
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  38.  @tobe2btobe  Says the man who claimed, "I don't think he's even a doctor."
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  39.  @tobe2btobe  Oh perfect! So now the PhDs are doctors and the MDs are not? That is perfect. Please don't stop. This is bitter comedy now.
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  40.  @tobe2btobe  If he is patently wrong and dangerous, then there is hardly any reason to LIE about him, is there? Or is logic lost on you? Never mind, please go back to comedy.
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  41.  @tobe2btobe  So much of MSM lied incessantly about Orange Caligula, that I would have to think carefully and do meticulous research to compile a solid list of ten or twelve atrocious things he actually did. This is a shame. Don't you see that? The evidence in favor of vaccination is grossly insufficient to mandate it, much less to treat it as a panacea, and even the most ardent proponents of vaccination are becoming concerned (see, e.g., Dr. Eric Topol, who has reservations about America's overly "vaccine-centric" approach). I'll tell you who is against mandates in other countries: LFI and PCF, the French hard left and the Communists. Ponder that. And that is in a society WITH universal health care, tuition-free college, universal pensions, and generous disability benefits -- not one where all risk is offloaded to the individual, and if you're harmed you're on your own. You don't know what you're shilling for. At least get paid well. Have something to show for it.
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  42.  @tobe2btobe  Oh I see you fixed it! "Not even a doctor" Risible!
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  43. This is exactly what is not known. There is conflicting data on the issue, with frequent updates. It appears that some breakthrough cases are highly contagious. It also appears that a relatively small number of people are highly contagious, i.e., "super spreaders." Vaccination does not eliminate that risk. Exactly how much it lessens it is not clear. Look at the material you get when you go for the vaccine: they tell you you cannot be sure of having strong immunity for more than six months.
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  44.  @kevinschmidt2210  The richest people here do have the best care in the world.
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  45. The other 95-98% are dying younger and younger. In my city, the richest people have attained a life expectancy near 90. For the poorest, it is about 62.
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  46.  @kevinschmidt2210  You may be right.
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  47.  @-Thunder  Yeah, because people on Medicare have the government controling their doctors. But younger people have nothing to fear from insurance companies and employers.
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  48. That's what Dore said.
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  49.  @sandibrockway7959  I have one friend who has rejected vaccination. She just volunteered for a monoclonal antibody study and devoted four hours of her time during the Friday before Labor Day to be prescreened.
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  50. Remember "the walls are closing in?"
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  51.  @theviking2877  No, the Nobel prize is for a RIVER BLINDNESS drug.
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  52. He was on the team at Salk Institute, then at a biotech company. Yes, he was one of the inventors of the technology. He had nothing to do with the development of COVID vaccines. No one said he did.
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  53. Is there some other Robert Malone around, or something?
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  54.  @TheBitterPill  The number at his level in the process is a handful. He was one of the inventors.
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  55. Did you listen to the whole presentation? First, Dr. Malone said all elderly people and all people with comorbidities SHOULD get vaccinated. Second, Jimmy DID get vaccinated, and is now in a study, due to the vaccine side effects he has experienced.
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  56. You were vaccinated. So, how did you get COVID? See the problem?
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  57.  @katymeigs5290  Great, great point. Thank you.
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  58. This will burn out. Lunacy cannot be sustained. We've been here before.
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  59.  @martinh1437  Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon bomber, was treated. But I appreciate your point.
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  60. I heard a virologist say on Lex Fridman that he knows of a hospital that routinely uses ivermectin. Approved drugs can be prescribed for off-label use. The NIH recommendation Jimmy cited permits, but does not encourage, doctors to use it that way. Their malpractice insurance carriers might block them.
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  61. He's drawing an analogy between antibiotic overuse and "leaky" vaccines because it is something lay people are familiar with. Of course they are not the same. If a virus can replicate in any host, vaccinated OR unvaccinated, there exists a risk of more infectious mutations occurring.
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  62.  @igbc176  That would be plausible if "breakthrough" infections were rare, and if the vaccinated were taking the same precautions as the unvaccinated to avoid infection. As for your last line, enough with the name calling and ad hom. Jimmy and Stef WERE vaccinated. Malone thinks high risk people should be.
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  63.  @igbc176  You are so angry. Do you regret getting vaccinated, or are you a false flag, surreptitiously working to discourage vaccination? This is what I think of all the ad hom crowd, starting with Kimmel. He's clearly worried at night about having taken the vaccine. He should chill.
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  64.  @igbc176  As I said in another thread: "Mutations in bacteria and in viruses arise spontaneously, and in general are more likely to arise the greater the rate of replication. (Yet the four major variants of COVID, including Delta, did not arise in the United States, even though the US has the most COVID cases in the world. There's an element of unpredictability due to randomness at work here. We could of course find that the next variant starts here.) A mutant bacterium or virus is not "stronger" because it is exposed to an antibiotic or an antibody that doesn't kill it, nor does it become "stronger" because it wasn't killed. The mutant organism does not have the genetic features that make such microbes highly susceptible to the existing antibiotics or antibodies, purely due to chance. It survives, and thus may replicate, and thus also may pass on the genetic features (the "mutation") that made it less susceptible to antibiotics or antibodies to the next microbe generation. When you have infected but asymptomatic or barely symptomatic vaccinated people circulating with a false sense of security, that spells trouble. Time to admit it." This us how it works.
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  65. I can verify most of this, in fact.
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  66.  @justinshin2279  All right. Let's presume that all the medical and scientific community who advocate mass vaccination have the best motives. This does not mean that the consensus is correct. You don't perceive the intense pressure to conform? I've never seen anything like it in the realm of science or medicine. Succumbing to pressure is the most human thing to do, but you can't call it noble. The people who do it don't believe they are doing it. And we have policy decisions to make which must be open to discussion. The way the actual news is trickling in is not painting a good picture. A fully vaccinated person with a breakthrough infection may be less likely to be a super spreader, but that is not clear. Not anymore. The Guardian just reported that teen boys have a higher risk of hospitalization for myocarditis from the mRNA vaccines than they do from a COVID infection. The Swiss ministry of health considers a person fully vaccinated if they had a proven COVID infection and then received ONE shot of an mRNA vaccine. India did use ivermectin as a prophylactic in certain areas, and the WHO strongly criticized that decision. (I have not found clearly credible reports on the result of that choice, and I remember thinking at first that it was a rumor. That is pathetic.) Do you see consistency here? Or good reasons to question what we are being ordered to do? This is a new virus, and a relatively new technology that has never been pressed into mass use before. That usually means proceed with caution, and justify your steps. Persuade people, rather than bully them. Why doesn't it this time? I had a bad impression of Malone simply because he agreed to appear on Bret Weinstein's show, and Weinstein opposes vaccination. Well, Jimmy and Stef WERE vaccinated, and Malone had COVID and does believe that certain groups should be vaccinated. I don't think that everything Malone says in this segment is true, but I don't find him to be generally lacking in credibility or doing any kind of disservice. We NEED to reason this through. The top-down diktat is causing chaos. We're now in a world where Russell Brand is making more sense than most people. Good gawd.
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  67.  @justinshin2279  We don't even have a clear picture whether "breakthrough" infections are merely that, or are evidence of vaccine failure. Vaccine failure would be when the vaccinated are in hospitals and on ventilators, can we agree? That may be starting to happen, but we cannot be sure yet. Do we have evidence for the safety and efficacy of boosters? No. It's too soon to tell. We do have tons of censorship, though.
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  68.  @justinshin2279  I wrote two fact-based, well sourced replies. Let's see if they both stay up or are removed.
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  69.  @justinshin2279  I just saw that one of my factual posts in another thread was taken down. I'm an attorney, expert witness testimony is one of my specialities, and my Master's is in ancient philosophy and philosophy of science. I take truth EXTREMELY seriously. Censorship, too. My parents were immigrants, and were always presumed to be lying because of their accents (not to mention that my father didn't come across as lily white). No, this is no joke to me.
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  70.  @justinshin2279  The one removed was in a different thread, and basically questioned whether there have been deaths probably due to vaccination, and if so, how many, and how many are acceptable, among which cohort, and why. I better not say more. I think the case for vaccination is stronger than against, and I think vaccination needs to be an individual determination. Now that Pfizer is approved, and a study came out in the NEJM at the very end of last month that FINALLY gives some solid guidance on risks, I think the balance is in favor of vaccination. I'm not sure. What I really think is that the pandemic has been grotesquely and brutally mishandled from Day 1. I can accept that some people have lost all trust. I know only one person who is adamantly refusing vaccination. She just volunteered for a monoclonal antibody study and devoted four hours of her time during the Friday before Labor Day to be prescreened. Sound selfish to you? Rhetorical question.
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  71.  @justinshin2279  BTW, see Kim Iversen on The Hill Rising. This is the approach I truly value and appreciate.
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  72. Well, with an overall case fatality rate of 2%, being healthy will only lower the chances of death, not eliminate them. Even some children have died of this, though flu is much riskier for children.
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  73. No one can decide but you. There is a sweet guy in Canada named Dr. Moran who always links to the actual journal article with the data. He is pro-vax but first of all pro-truth, and pro-civil liberties. Lex Fridman interviewed Vincent Racaniello, a real virologist from Columbia University, who is also pro-vax but not insane. Lex made it a point to underline that each of us should have the right to decide for ourselves. They also discussed ivermectin rationally. The honest doctors are admitting there is a lot they do not know. I was just watching news from France, where the government has gone full authoritarian with the public, massive mandates, firing people, etc., and there are demonstrations every week. The guest on the show said that across the border in Spain, there is less coercion, more public admission when the truth of the matter is still unknown -- and more vaccination as a result. I am not shocked. No sane person is.
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  74. Also, there is a lot of really interesting information from other countries. BMJ (formerly British Medical Journal) had an article that vegetarians and vegans are far less likely to develop severe COVID. The German press picked it up right away. Ours did not report it. :/
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  75. I wondered about this, too. We've been told that the vaccinated with breakthrough infections have a lower viral load but enough to spread the virus. The latter was grudgingly admitted. I have not read anywhere that the vaccinated can be stronger spreaders. But the issue with vaccines that are no longer effective in a matter of 6 to 12 months strikes me as very ominous. People vaccinated in February may not be immune today -- and they think they are.
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  76.  @Fangfeaster12  This website shadows all links, because they are hard to monitor for TOS violations.
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  77. There is no such thing as a "right wing" drug.
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  78. No, actually. The truth is, the risks he talks about are risks. His style of messenging, his emphasis, and so forth, are not appreciated by the mainstream. That is because a real discussion is not allowed. Politics is everything.
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  79.  @GarosGaming  No, he was a researcher at Salk and was a key part of the team that developed mRNA technology for immunotherapy vaccines. He played no part in developing this vaccine.
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  80.  @MrIkesimba  Well, that would depend on the efficacy of the vaccine when weighed against its risks, and compared in turn with the risks of the disease itself. It would also depend on whether (near) universal vaccination in this case would lead to eradicating the disease.
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  81.  @techbubble7609  Also, there is a lot of really interesting information from other countries. BMJ (formerly British Medical Journal) published a study that found that vegetarians and vegans are far less likely to develop severe COVID. The German press picked it up right away. Ours did not report it. :/ I guess Europeans trust their people to exercise good judgment and take all reasonable precautions. Funny how berating people and hoping they die doesn't have the same effect.
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  82.  @fenril6685  This is very important. Will look it up. The degree of risk, and the means of risk assessment, are important. I would not expect this to be highly common, but obviously scientists need to think about it. They damn well better.
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  83.  @chrish3669  This talking point is already in question. Some vaccinated people appear to produce just as much delta variant virus in their nasal passages as the unvaccinated do, which would make them very contagious for a period of time. The difference is in the ability of the virus to invade other organs or provoke cytokine storm, and in the length of time they are contagious.
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  84. Innuendo. What do you actually mean? There is little in the world that is worse than innuendo.
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  85. It was Trump who lifted the moratorium on funding gain-of-function research. Someone probably flattered him, then put the paper in front of him. He isn't a big fan of reading.
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  86. Listen to the pro-vaccine side on Lex Fridman's Sept 1st podcast, where Lex interviews a real virologist from Columbia University who is honest. The pro-vaccine side is not nearly as good as the propaganda on mainstream. The "anti-ivermectin side" needs to be quashed, it's nonsense. As Jimmy just showed us, the NIH supports clinical studies, and Jimmy is in one. Also, one of the biggest proponents of vaccines, Dr. Eric Topol, called our approach overly "vaccine-centric." And The Guardian (UK) just reported that teen boys have a higher risk of hospitalization for myocarditis from the mRNA vaccines than they do of hospitalization for COVID itself. Data keeps coming in. They're pushing vaccination hard, before we get wise? That seems like one possibility.
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  87.  @harmonys2102  I agree wholeheartedly! The people who abuse the unvaccinated are the ones I suspect may regret their choice. There is so much that we don't know. It is also possible that those who got significant side effects from the vaccine would have been very sick had they contracted COVID. Some legitimate doctors who aren't just pushing vaccines think this is quite likely. So there is no way at all to say you made the wrong choice.
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  88. Northwestern
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  89.  @vulcanh254  No leftist thinks like this. Jimmy is a leftist.
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  90.  @vulcanh254  Well, those of us with roots in other countries see it differently. You know who opposes vaccine mandates and vaccine passports in France? LFI and PCF. That's the hard left and the Communists. America has no left. It has a bunch of trendy neolib insatiable monstrosities who enjoy finding new ways to emotionally abuse 80 to 90% of their fellow citizens, because they themselves are an utter mess.
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  91. Glenn Greenwald: The ACLU, Prior to COVID, Denounced Mandates and Coercive Measures to Fight Pandemics -- incredible article on his substack page. The ACLU produced a working paper in 2008 on why persuasion, not mandates, were needed in the event of a pandemic. You have got to read it to believe it.
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  92. His personal physician recommended it.
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  93.  @fuhkshet9703  Well, but Jimmy is under a doctor's care for a rare bone condition. His body was unable to metabolize the minerals needed to keep his bones healthy, so he always follows his doctor's advice on this stuff. It was the rational thing to do. If you don't have preexisting conditions, if no one you live with has preexisting conditions, and no one you frequent is 70 years old or older, do whatever you want.
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  94. Jimmy has been candid from the start. He got vaccinated because his personal doctor advised him to. Stef was achy and tired for a short time, Jimmy never got better from his second dose and had long COVID symptoms. He is under a doctor's care for those now.
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  95. Jimmy is 56 and has a preexisting condition.
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  96. Has any doctor suggested that you take this vaccine?
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  97. Government isn't forcing people on Medicare to get vaccinated. But private insurance can bail on you and force you into bankruptcy!
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  98. Multi-millionaire late night comics are now getting mileage by spreading this attitude, only 18 months into the pandemic. This is how they are making their money. What do you think about that?
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