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Comments by "L.W. Paradis" (@l.w.paradis2108) on "California Goes Against CDC Guidelines -- Extends Mask Wearing" video.
I didn't think I could admire Max more than I already did. Tonight I do. Thank you Max.
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I have been, too, in private conversation with only one other person, not in front of anyone. I was verbally attacked and shouted down immediately. I never knew people were this disordered. Has me more worried than COVID at the moment.
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@nolanarmstrong2458 Have they been asking cogent questions, or advancing competing theories without any evidence whatsoever? Or both, depending on the person? I've been listening to the European left, which has been raising these issues. They sound like the opposite of DNC.
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@russellbarbee6974 My point was, there is no need to rely on the CDC.
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@geoffreygreen3521 I have no objection to taking breaks from wearing masks. I think wearing them on crowded public transit could be a good idea and I plan to try it from now on. Do you think COVID mitigation measures didn't result in a very light flu season? I think that is very possible.
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@jacquelinemca6614 It's not true that the vaccines failed all animal trials. See, this is what is annoying: just like Trump supporters can point to Russiagate and use it to assert that the MSM only tells lies about Trump to smear him, the people trying to coerce everyone into prematurely taking one of the COVID vaccines will point to all the misinformation floating around about them and paint everyone who has legitimate concerns as being irrational and subject to lies. I am so sick of all lies, exaggerations, misleading statements, equivocation, and bold assertions made by a person who has no idea what they are talking about, and is just repeating something they saw on Facebook.
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@therealpaincake I agree that the burden us on him to explain an assertion like that clearly. By any measure I know of, it is a vaccine using a novel technology that has never been used in millions of people before, and there is much we don't know about it because it is so new, and because it has been politicized. I do see one point: vaccines such as against polio or small pox are capable of eradicating those diseases. This is like the annual flu shot. It confers very strong resistance and eliminates severe disease, or comes close. Not the same. It is the word "vaccine" that has been broadened to include all of these now. (People who are familiar with a Romance language know where the word came from.)
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A lot of stuff has that flavor, doesn't it?
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Countries like Japan where mask wearing is common have a longer life expectancy. Could it be in spite of masks, because of them, or without any relationship to them? Sure, any of the above. But your assertion is not plausible.
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@geoffreygreen3521 My mask protects others more than me. It prevents my tiny droplets, which carry the tinier virus, from reaching others.
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@geoffreygreen3521 You may be right about what prevented flu. My mind is open, I do not appreciate the push to accept a new vaccine technology for a new virus, and in principle do not agree with mandating any non-FDA approved drug. But in general, I like vaccines. I ask for the established ones every year. I also think masks appear to be useful.
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@geoffreygreen3521 Indeed -- another open question. What would long-term, annual use of these vaccines mean? The only true answer is that we don't know. Anyone who trusts Gates, or any of them, either by placing faith in their judgment, or in their good will should know better by now.
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@geoffreygreen3521 What vaccine was that? 1976 . . . Was that the swine flu debacle? I know people who decline flu shots, which today are safe, because of swine flu. I like most vaccines. Most vaccines take three to ten years of development before they are given to masses of people.
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Sputnik V is available. India will make 800m doses, South Korea, over a billion.
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@jacquelinemca6614 I just told you I've been doing my own research, and listening to independent sources outside the States that are asking these very questions. No, a "competing narrative" is not useful. There are three little words that a person has to say concerning the pandemic, and the vaccines, and various treatments, in order for me to have confidence in them and believe they care about telling me the truth: "We don't know." This goes for doctors above all. If I don't hear those words, I know there's a problem.
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America's case fatality rate has been above 2%, with deaths concentrated in men over 50. Some very young have had horrifying systemic effects, which are rare. But the flu this is not.
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Questioning the line we've been fed and making up new sh*t are two different things.
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@stevenpadilla4294 Who said anything about being afraid? I never think about an illness I did have, which has a 2% death rate; maybe 6% lifetime. It's not about fear.
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Follow the news from other countries, then. It is not just happening here.
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@russellbarbee6974 I was referring to COVID and the various mitigation efforts, different types of vaccines, and debates about all of the above. (BTW, a lot of countries are not relying on mRNA vaccines at all, or relying on them less than on the other vaccine types.)
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How would we know, this soon? We don't. When FDA approval supplants EUA, we will have a lot more data. It may take even longer (1 to 3 more years) to establish what you claim is already known.
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Do you question that several teammates who are vaccinated all turned up COVID positive? How did they contract it? Why were they tested? Did they have minor cold symptoms, or worse?
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@therealpaincake BTW, have you checked which COVID vaccines are in use by country? Many countries offer no mRNA vaccines to its public; some offer just one out of a choice of four. The other three vaccines offered use established technologies. Why is that?
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@erica.7231 Why label it "anti-vax?" How about he dares to raise the questions any rational person would ask about this NEW technology pressed into mass use, for a NEW virus we still do not know a great deal about? I got other vaccines this past year. For example, Prevnar 13 is now recommended for all adults, not just those over 60. And of course, a flu shot. "Anti-vax" is just another political slogan.
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@therealpaincake You're not going to believe this, but . . . I was just watching a YouTube presentation in French on COVID vaccines and Sputnik V in particular, which many in Western Europe want, and one of the panelists said exactly what Max said, and for the same reason -- none of these medications are a true vaccine, because vaccines confer essentially total immunity, and are capable of eradicating a virus or bacterium from human populations. All the COVID vaccines are probably going to be like annual flu shots. Please don't misunderstand -- I still think you have the better point. But Max is not out in left field, not how you think. He is not being an irrational anti-vaxxer. He did not dream up this use of the term ad hoc.
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@erica.7231 Well that's certainly true! No argument from me.
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